[POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?

[Chico]

Sounds more like knights to me.
As bandits, i would imagine some forest ambush of cowardly archers 'n' scums with knifes.

[Gnjus]

Sounds more like knights to me. 
As bandits, i would imagine some forest ambush of cowardly archers 'n' scums with knifes.

Don't you worry about that, what we lacked in our weapons of choice we more then successfully compensated with our ugly mugfaces & "pleasant" personalities. With a face like mine you don't need a bow to make a successful ambush, all you need to do is show up. 

[Chico]

Ya right, now i have to apologize for realz, for pointing out any kind of similarity between Gnjus mugface and that Montgomery's guy(whos playin seige these days).

[sharker807]

4 arrows sound more likely to me, given the math. Unless you always face 8 or 9 PD archers.

How many arrows would be a fair amount to take against a double triple loom end level archer?

Ya right, now i have to apologize for real, for pointing out any kind of similarity between Gnjus mugface and that Montgomery's guy.

you sure about thay paul, i have trouble one shotting archers and other light armour players take three sometimes with my mw arbalst and mw steel bolt, and people are saying nerf the xbow! i don't think so, it should be buffed if anything and the accuracy is awful since it's  been nerfed, i got 179 wpf and it fly's all over the place

[Leshma]

Bandits were mostly 2h/polearm/cavalry.

Yeah but Fellowship of Gnjus was 80% shielders with dem axes and throwing and some lawlpikes. Good times

[Fluffy_Muffin]

I dont even care if you buff archers, just remove ladders from battle and im happy

[Plaksteris]

Two words

BYZANTIUM LEECHBANNER!

[Rage_Guy]

ITS FUCKING TRUE,BRINGS TO X5 REALLY FAST!

[polkafranzi]

Btw(,) play Na1(*NA1)(,) it's way better(.)  were(We're) AMERICAN(,) we have a clan called USA AMERICA (lljk)(,) so yes it's way better . IDK if it's true but I see more admins on and better games(? not just cRPG?) there as well

[MaHuD]

I find that EU_1 lacks teamplay. Sure there are some nice guys who try to work together, but most players seem to be either dumb, trolling, or useless.
Let's say someone is under attack by like 3 guys, and you jump in to help him and he just runs away and leaves you to fight alone.
Now if he was an archer and started shooting the guys, I would be allright... But nope, just retards running away.

Which results in the melee just circling around, easy kills for cav aswell.

Or what about a guy clad in armor, big two hander, he get's hit by someone, tries to attack, but is too slow gets hit again, tries to attack (not block!) and gets hit again and again untill he dies... Not a single block.
Why where these guys given XP or Gold at all, they haven't even gained any experience!
These nubs make it hard to balance the teams as well.

[Prpavi]

So i did a test right now on EU 1

i was going for an archer called Blackbow_the_Pimp trying to dodge the arrows but not really basically running at him.

im wearing lordly milanese plate and lordly plate mittens with 21 STR 100% HP and 4 IF.

He had Rus Bow and Bodkins.

I was dead in exactly 3 arrows, no headshots, all 3 bodyshots.

You tell me if that is "balanced" or "viable"

cheers

[Chasey]

i have 70 body armour and i find that a dedicated archer ( with looms ) will 3 shot me too

[Prpavi]

yeah i forgot to write my lordly set has 77 armor.

[Joker86]

I just want to throw in two things that come to my mind that could perhaps, under certain circumstances and with a lot of luck shift the relation between ranged and melee fighters into the right direction again. Unlike usually this time I am everything but sure my suggestions are good, so I just mention them and explain them shortly, and someone might pick them up and either support or decline them.

1st: With WSE more or less anything is possible, that's at least what the devs said. How about dividing damage types into ranged an melee damage? This way you could make certain things (horses, armours, shields) extraordinarily resistant to ranged damage, while still being vulnerable to melee. Horses would be such an item, making light cavalry a better archer hunter. (Which, on the other hand, would make horse archers more of a bitch... hhmmm...  )

2nd: Perhaps it's the wrong approach to try to lower the amount of archers by nerfing them and making them unattractive? How about making the other classes, especially infantry more attractive? You could lower the item weight of shields and melee weapons. Of course this would buff cavalry as well, but item weight is not so much of a problem for them. Or you could make a bigger "gap" between the protection values of light and medium armour. I still say that infantry is the least attractive class of all three "supra-classes".

[Rage_Guy]

No much difference,if i go in my money making rags(16 body armor)I get 2 shot,If I go with my "good" armor(55 body)it takes 90% hp from 2 shots.FUCK THAT!