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Are you satisfied with how shields in general are now?

No!
35 (23.6%)
Minor balancing needs to be done
46 (31.1%)
Yes, they are fine as is
67 (45.3%)

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Author Topic: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)  (Read 19028 times)

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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #120 on: February 11, 2011, 09:46:31 am »
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if you have to whine vs  1hander user    with all your advantage probably its you that need to learn to play

Dude. If you meet two Side-sword spammers with huscarl shields, you can't do anything. Even against one, if you miss a block, a hit can take about 90%!! health instantly. That's a bit absurd man.
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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #121 on: February 11, 2011, 09:48:21 am »
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if you have to whine vs  1hander user    with all your advantage probably its you that need to learn to play


at difference of you i bring mathematics that  is not an opinion.
at difference of you      i not  whiteknight my class,   as uberskilled,
at difference of you i am objective, becouse      you wanna remove onyl advantage of shielder when you have 4038608340 advantage, and this is patethic.
at difference of you i am not a huscarl user,      so i am not defending my style of play
at difference of you, i can recon sometim OP,   like your abused  lolstab xant,      or like    steel pick  1hander user,  (i tryed one yesterday and one shoot ppl or double shoot ppl with a 1hand weapon 102 speed is RETARDED )

like is retarded hear   str abuser+triple loomed baremace say that      oneshoot ppl true a plate+shield, is skill.

You didn't bring any mathematics, foo'  :lol:

All you did was invoke the holy name of mathematics, which doesn't automatically make the Great Mathematics god side with you, unfortunately.

You are objective because you are a shielder arguing for shields not to be nerfed?  :D

Lolstab is OP? Try it yourself.  :)
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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #122 on: February 11, 2011, 09:50:28 am »
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Make a 2her, I'll duel you with my 1her. :)

Or make any class at all, I'll duel you and show you how it's done.

sure  i make a str abuser 110 hp, with a 3x loomed baremace so you need from 5 to 8 hits for kill me while i need only 1 single crush on you, and you die instakilled

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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #123 on: February 11, 2011, 09:50:56 am »
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sure  i make a str abuser 110 hp, with a 3x loomed baremace so you need from 5 to 8 hits for kill me while i need only 1 single crush on you, and you die instakilled

Deal. Go ahead, you'll still lose.

Also, I find it amusing you go for the no-skill option when I offer to duel any class. Well, not surprising.
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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #124 on: February 11, 2011, 09:51:35 am »
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You didn't bring any mathematics, foo'  :lol:

All you did was invoke the holy name of mathematics, which doesn't automatically make the Great Mathematics god side with you, unfortunately.

You are objective because you are a shielder arguing for shields not to be nerfed?  :D

Lolstab is OP? Try it yourself.  :)

if you cant make 1+1 you have issue


105 reach at my home is inferior to  125-155
40 dmg is inferior to your avarage  45-50 +

and i continue like that on every other things i mentioned, dont     embarass yourself


ps: about new pole animation now you feint  like you have 200 wpf even when you have 0.
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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #125 on: February 11, 2011, 09:52:51 am »
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if you cant make 1+1 you have issue


105 reach at my home is inferior to  125-155
40 dmg is inferior to your avarage  45-50 +

and i continue like that on every other things i mentioned, dont     embarass yourself

Mention weapon names. How often they're used. What disadvantages they have.
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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #126 on: February 11, 2011, 09:57:17 am »
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Mention weapon names. How often they're used. What disadvantages they have.

most used 1h

100-105 reach      nordic-knight-eslavona   30-36 dmg   upkeep 9-10k  + shield another 6-10k

most used 2h.   

124-125  reach.  +15 on lolstab     danish/german      40-43 dmg.     upkeep 11-12k               

except advantage to use a shield     1hander  have no advantage in term of speed, reach dmg, cost  of 2handers, wpf, and manouvrability, and upkeep



you are whining against the obvious,     shielder = harder to kill = more survivability, if you remove that  the class have no sense to exist.

you sacrifice sourvivability, for more reach dmg, lolstab,  animations,  less upkeep,  more wpf, and manouvrability
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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #127 on: February 11, 2011, 09:58:58 am »
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Dude. If you meet two Side-sword spammers with huscarl shields, you can't do anything. Even against one, if you miss a block, a hit can take about 90%!! health instantly. That's a bit absurd man.

i get one shooted by ppl with phantom stab from 140 cm,  i not cry on forum about that,     or i get one shooted thrue my shield+ plate by a triple baremace strbauser     

while you need  not 1  but 2 player   for complains.

what i am supposed to say/whine vs 2 baremace strabuser vs me?

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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #128 on: February 11, 2011, 10:01:08 am »
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most used 1h

100-105 reach      nordic-knight-eslavona   30-36 dmg   upkeep 9-10k  + shield another 6-10k

most used 2h.   

124-125  reach.  +15 on lolstab     danish/german      40-43 dmg.     upkeep 11-12k               

except advantage to use a shield     1hander  have no advantage in term of speed, reach dmg, cost  of 2handers

And speed is a huge factor. And 1h gets a lot better animations. But yes, obviously, 2h looks more appealing based on just the stats. But just by a bit, and when added together with animations, they're pretty equal, even if the 1her isn't using a shield.
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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #129 on: February 11, 2011, 10:01:57 am »
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And speed is a huge factor. And 1h gets a lot better animations.

nope.

is since beta that  chadz talk about better 2h animation. who you try to fool here?

chadz not vicious or xant, chadz,  and  even that they are hardcoded,    if you where here like i was since a year ago,    you know that story, since is already being discusses and blamed by all 1hander-archer-pole,     for at list 7 months
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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #130 on: February 11, 2011, 10:03:01 am »
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nope.

is since beta that  chadz talk about better 2h animation. who you try to fool here?

Well, I wouldn't expect you to know what you're talking about... you can't duel, after all.
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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #131 on: February 11, 2011, 10:03:54 am »
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Well, I wouldn't expect you to know what you're talking about... you can't duel, after all.

you where dieng vs me when i was level 22.       with 0 athletics,    4 powestrike,            and i not have your lolstab 140 cm and at difference of you i not joined merc by suckcoking someone :)

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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #132 on: February 11, 2011, 10:06:03 am »
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you where dieng vs me when i was level 22.       with 0 athletics,    4 powestrike,            and i not have your lolstab 140 cm and at difference of you i not joined merc by suckcoking someone :)

Lulz, sure I were. Pics or it didn't happen.

Also, try coming up with your own insults, stealing Jambi's isn't very polite.
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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #133 on: February 11, 2011, 10:07:13 am »
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Lulz, sure I were. Pics or it didn't happen.

Also, try coming up with your own insults, stealing Jambi's isn't very polite.

why? becouse is true.

have a nice day,   i have done with you

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Re: Round Shields...(Nerf thread)
« Reply #134 on: February 11, 2011, 10:08:17 am »
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why? becouse is true.

have a nice day,   i have done with you

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