Round Shields...(Nerf thread)

[Dexxtaa]

Wouldn't really change everyone from using the huscarl if shields in general were just heavier.  It'd still be the only decent one in the list.  Though it would help counter the crush through from the bar mace, so maybe not a bad idea.   

Extremely heavy shields.

I could do with a bit more indirect speed buff.

[EponiCo]

Nah, I disagree here.
The other shields aren't useless, I use them myself and am about as effective as with bec or axe.
They are to unforgiving on side hits imo and could get a slight buff in durability, but I had no problem if the best shields were just a little better than the heavy round. And I'm pretty sure there's some rebalancing with 2h weapons and polearms to be done also, that should benefit the nonhuscarls anyway (*cough* barmace *cough*). Of course if throwing is changed this would take away a good reason to take shield also.

[DrKronic]

Heavier shields.

I personally think the high cost bucklers should get a buff same with board shields because 12th to 16th century almost all forces that even used a shield were armed mostly with one or the other

More hp for steel shields bucklers should be fastest rated shields ingame and board shields should be faster than they are any level four and above shields should receive a buff

Its silly on my shielded if I want go fast I should be using quickbreak level three shields

Raise few a little on buckler but right now its expensive to wear one when u really have to direct the buckler block so weapons don't hit around it and of course you don't get the ranged defense that shields are known for

Add in the very high price and no one uses bucklers but in the 12-16 centuries sword and buckler fighting was very wide spread and effective in melee

I am only noting timeframe because devs mention that's the weapon/armor timeframe of cRPG

[Leshma]

Steel Buckler looks like shit if you ask me.

[Elmetiacos]

Or put your shield away, kill the most likely noob spammer, and move on. Just because you play a sword and boarder doesn't mean you never have to manual block.

So since you're convinced that a weapon's length and damage have little impact on the fight, I take it you always fight with a practice sword?

[Dexxtaa]

My avatar looks like shit if you ask me.

fix'd

[IG_Saint]

So since you're convinced that a weapon's length and damage have little impact on the fight, I take it you always fight with a practice sword?

I never said that, I simply stated that fighting an axe user with a shield is ludicrous. Nice reading comprehension.

[Elmetiacos]

I see, so you think I'd be better fighting with a one handed weapon and no shield than with the same weapon with a shield? Nurse!

[IG_Saint]

I see, so you think I'd be better fighting with a one handed weapon and no shield than with the same weapon with a shield? Nurse!

Against an axe, yes.

[EponiCo]

No you aren't.
But against an axe (read - weapon that is shorter or slower than a 1h in many cases) you are better served to put your shield away and conserve it for another fight.

[IG_Saint]

No you aren't.
But against an axe (read - weapon that is shorter or slower than a 1h in many cases) you are better served to put your shield away and conserve it for another fight.

That's what I meant, yes, why waste your shield against a weapon that's designed to counter shields.

[Elmetiacos]

Long Axe speed 93, length 115; Long War Axe speed 92 length 123; Great Long Axe speed 92, length 125. I'm not seeing the short, clumsy weapons you are.

[Christo]

Long Axe speed 93, length 115; Long War Axe speed 92 length 123; Great Long Axe speed 92, length 125. I'm not seeing the short, clumsy weapons you are.

Count the -20-22 length because of the Polearm Grip.

[Elmetiacos]

Count the -20-22 length because of the Polearm Grip.

Allegedly. Also count the massive stun from trying to parry the axe with your Weight 1 sword.

[IG_Saint]

Allegedly. Also count the massive stun from trying to parry the axe with your Weight 1 sword.

You act as if you have no chance on winning without your shield, so I'll refer you to the quote in my signature and bid you good day, sir.

I said good day!