Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.

[MouthnHoof]

You do not recall correctly.
All testers did NOT agree.

OK not all, there was one that didn't.

And it wasn't spears needed help, it was Vaegir archers pulling out scimitars and owning Nords.
The justifications came later.

So Nords needed help in general against spamitars so polestun was implemented? Vaegirs also had a spear melee class.

The 2H spear classes were very weak. Initially the spears were made faster, but that just turned then into spam machines. Without any ability to control distance, it meant that most opponents and shielders in particular would simply run up to the spearman, block down (or everything with a shield), worst case get a low damage blow from a swinging spear and proceed to kill them from 0 range. polestun gave spears a chance for a second attack and some short range defense (low damage but at least a minor stun). It was mean for spears - a long stick with a arrow to dagger size tip, not to the guillotine on a stick polearms that we have in CRPG.

[Zisa]

OK not all, there was one that didn't.So Nords needed help in general against spamitars so polestun was implemented? Vaegirs also had a spear melee class.

The 2H spear classes were very weak. Initially the spears were made faster, but that just turned then into spam machines. Without any ability to control distance, it meant that most opponents and shielders in particular would simply run up to the spearman, block down (or everything with a shield), worst case get a low damage blow from a swinging spear and proceed to kill them from 0 range. polestun gave spears a chance for a second attack and some short range defense (low damage but at least a minor stun). It was mean for spears - a long stick with a arrow to dagger size tip, not to the guillotine on a stick polearms that we have in CRPG.

Hmm.. I did not think it was weak with Gabeed hoboing it up with the HOBOSPEAR, perhaps that came after.
It still was a nonsense argument and remains so, and as such should be removed much like a wart in an obvious place.

[Keshian]

Add poll please.

Topic +1

[Osiris]

*fail edit*
remove the damn stun

[Ujin]

poll added.

[John]

I can tolerate it being on spears, because of their mediocre swings, but it really needs to go for Becs and the like.  There's no reason to give a potential bonus hit for something that's already 30+ pierce/blunt.

[Tzar]

I can tolerate it being on spears, because of their mediocre swings, but it really needs to go for Becs and the like.  There's no reason to give a potential bonus hit for something that's already 30+ pierce/blunt.

Doesnt matter what weapon its on its OP an retarded nonetheless..

So your basically saying its ok for polestun to stay on a 300 lenght weapon? 

Or did you meant only the small hoplite spears ?

Either way i voted Yes no weapon deserves free hits on their enemy unless its a unbalanced weapon with knockdown.

What polestun does right now is given free knockdowns on just about every polearm out there.....

Knockdown / polestun = sameshit your arent able to fight back.

HINT: yes tears i read your post even tho your on my ignore list..... 

[Tears of Destiny]

What polestun does right now is given free knockdowns on just about every polearm out there.....

How does polestun give free knockdowns? Any polearm with knock down or crushthrough does not have polestun...

[Dan lol]

so basically, any blunt non-knockdown poleswing should have a chance to stun in order for it to be reasonable. Agree/disagree?

[Wraist]

How does polestun give free knockdowns? Any polearm with knock down or crushthrough does not have polestun...

I think he means that since it gives a stun, it may as well be a knockdown.

[Tears of Destiny]

I think he means that since it gives a stun, it may as well be a knockdown.

Ah, I see.

[Thucydides]

Knockdown is less reliable but longer lasting than polestun. Knockdown gives more than one free hit depending on positioning. Comparing knockdown with polestun is silly.

[Tzar]

Comparing knockdown with polestun is silly.

No.

You make your opponent unable to block the next attack after you hit him once thus its basically the samething.

[Gurnisson]

Knockdown gives 1-2 free hits after initial hit. Stagger gives 0-1. There's a difference.

[Siiem]

Polestun needs to stay! This coming from a completely unbiased 1h user.