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[Chasey]

Yes it is active earlier against agents and its the gayest thing ever. I'm getting teamhit about 3 times as much, with my bum gear that gets me killed a lot. You hit people you dont even see or are clearly behind you, and thats what I notice with a mace, one of the shortest weapons ingame. I can't imagine what hell it is for someone with a flamberge.

Please revert this change. Why do attacks need to be active earlier? Realism? Nobody in the right mind swings a weapon like the animations in cRPG so please dont apply realism on them. Every player now has a 4 meter danger radius around him, where both his teammates and the player himself are fucked. To properly fight eachother now without hits getting randomly interrupted, you basically have to go 1 vs 1.

Its completely unpredictable, you can't count on any hit going through. Random has indeed become a huge factor in cRPG combat now.

+1 this needs to be sorted

[Malaclypse]

I was actually trying to hit Uumdi with backswings on a polearm user last night, and it was ridiculously difficult to hurt my precious teammate. Not sure what you guys are on about. This was 135 reach weapon.

[ManOfWar]

The morning star must be a special case because of its model,

everything else makes sense

Yes it is active earlier against agents and its the gayest thing ever. I'm getting teamhit about 3 times as much, with my bum gear that gets me killed a lot. You hit people you dont even see or are clearly behind you, and thats what I notice with a mace, one of the shortest weapons ingame. I can't imagine what hell it is for someone with a flamberge.

Please revert this change. Why do attacks need to be active earlier? Realism? Nobody in the right mind swings a weapon like the animations in cRPG so please dont apply realism on them. Every player now has a 4 meter danger radius around him, where both his teammates and the player himself are fucked. To properly fight eachother now without hits getting randomly interrupted, you basically have to go 1 vs 1.

Its completely unpredictable, you can't count on any hit going through. Random has indeed become a huge factor in cRPG combat now.

It does not matter that in real life people would swing like that- In Crpg that weapon is lethal to anyone who is in front of it, and I do not want to see a flamberge hitting me through one of the users teamates ever again

[Phalanx300]

No, it's easy to counter them in 1v1, as it should be for all support weapons. Try countering a pikeman when he's supporting a two hander or a polearmer.

Why should the Long Spear be purely a support weapon? 

[Relit]

Why should the Long Spear be purely a support weapon? 

Well its now just a shorter, faster, and more damaging pike now. Can still whip it around and do some crazy stabs with it but the ground bumping has cut that down a bit.

As to why it should only be a support weapon. Honestly have no answer to this for you, the devs decided it should be so. Like I said its basically like a pike: Anti-cav and infantry support, though the Long spear does the infantry support a little better.

[Preacher]

What is all this cry about bouncing? I use polearms and the only thing I bounce off is the walls, and I dont kill teamates with backswings, must just be noob spammers crying.

[Preacher]

Why should the Long Spear be purely a support weapon? 

Because 2h is the holy class according to the devs, thats why its the only class that never gets f-ed with, and why anything else would be considered support.

[Tears of Destiny]

Because 2h is the holy class according to the devs, thats why its the only class that never gets f-ed with, and why anything else would be considered support.

We are ignoring when the 2Her animations were changed a couple months ago and lolstab was nerfed?

[DrTaco]

Reading the forums so far... Aw hell no this is fucked up!

[cmp]

Why should the Long Spear be purely a support weapon? 

Why is the world round?

We are ignoring when the 2Her animations were changed a couple months ago and lolstab was nerfed?

It's hilarious how in the same thread you'll find several people swearing that devs/balancers are biased towards a class, each referring to a different class. Don't even bother replying, some people are just too simple-minded to see past their own noses.

[Thucydides]

With the nerf in long spear overhead, there really isn't a reason to use it over a pike...

[Preacher]

We are ignoring when the 2Her animations were changed a couple months ago and lolstab was nerfed?

Yeah of course, now they stab further than their animations, and the stab last a half second past the time the thrust is done, some nerf.

[PhantomZero]

We are ignoring when the 2Her animations were changed a couple months ago and lolstab was nerfed?

2H Animations are more of a sidestep if not a buff, the very lethal "hanging" thrust does full damage even at full extension or while being retracted, and I don't even know how you can say lolstab was nerfed.

[ManOfWar]

2H Animations are more of a sidestep if not a buff, the very lethal "hanging" thrust does full damage even at full extension or while being retracted, and I don't even know how you can say lolstab was nerfed.

ya really

[Aseldo]

Sweet Bodkin arrows are 2 pierce now , my MW horn bow and MW bodkin arrows do 31 pierce damage