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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #315 on: September 03, 2011, 10:04:53 pm »
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Siiem is one of the better 2h players on EU servers.

2h sword do bounce when you're facehugging, of course overhead doesn't but swings and stab often bounce. Stab is problematic because it requires small speed bonus, if you stay still and exchange hits at facehug range your stab will bounce off in most cases.

bad positioning, theres a reason why hiltslashes are so common

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #316 on: September 03, 2011, 10:06:33 pm »
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bad positioning, theres a reason why hiltslashes are so common

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #317 on: September 03, 2011, 10:34:44 pm »
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I was not complaining that 2h swords bounce with thrusts on facehug distance it's quite obvious why. I just made it a point that you can come around that alot easier with a long spear than a two handed sword or a one handed sword.

It might just be the polearm stab, if so a new one would be nice... maybe a delayed one like in 1h and 2h so they are more equal.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2011, 10:59:20 pm by Siiem »

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #318 on: September 04, 2011, 01:23:59 am »
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seriously how can people get annoyed by this.
uhmm how about block down?
ive been detic piker for so long now, people are inpatient and then get stabbed by me how about just block down instead of te spam, or maybe just adjust because pikers realy shine in 1 1v1 :rolleyes:
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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #319 on: September 04, 2011, 01:40:54 am »
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seriously how can people get annoyed by this.
uhmm how about block down?
ive been detic piker for so long now, people are inpatient and then get stabbed by me how about just block down instead of te spam, or maybe just adjust because pikers realy shine in 1 1v1 :rolleyes:

I remember that you lost a duel vs Tzar in 2 seconds because you couldn't block a right swing (From a flamberge which has so fast swings). Yet you talk about people should learn to block down... Interesting.

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #320 on: September 04, 2011, 01:42:57 am »
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seriously how can people get annoyed by this.
uhmm how about block down?
ive been detic piker for so long now, people are inpatient and then get stabbed by me how about just block down instead of te spam, or maybe just adjust because pikers realy shine in 1 1v1 :rolleyes:

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #321 on: September 04, 2011, 03:11:54 am »
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I was not complaining that 2h swords bounce with thrusts on facehug distance it's quite obvious why. I just made it a point that you can come around that alot easier with a long spear than a two handed sword or a one handed sword.

It might just be the polearm stab, if so a new one would be nice... maybe a delayed one like in 1h and 2h so they are more equal.

1 hand sword point blank range is easier than longspear stab, it really is.

2h thrust is pretty bad at close range, but it gives you so much goddamn reach and if you spin around in circles you literally have like a 360 degree attack radius with 140+ range on some swords. That is wack but i deal with it because i am more tactically versitile than a 2h, as it should be

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #322 on: September 04, 2011, 04:55:47 am »
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seriously how can people get annoyed by this.
uhmm how about block down?
ive been detic piker for so long now, people are inpatient and then get stabbed by me how about just block down instead of te spam, or maybe just adjust because pikers realy shine in 1 1v1 :rolleyes:

I get annoyed because the mechanics are dumb.  I mean sure I'm used to it now but I hate needing to block down in the first place when I'm right in someone's face when they have a pike. I know realism /= fun but the magical thrust at near point blank range is just absurd.
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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #323 on: September 04, 2011, 05:41:04 am »
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but I hate needing to block down in the first place when I'm right in someone's face when they have a pike.

How dare people not be completely helpless to the awesome power of your visage when you confront them in battle and decide to facehug them with your *insert whatever weapon here*.

I hate having to block too, nerf everyone.
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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #324 on: September 04, 2011, 10:30:42 am »
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Ok. I'll revise that. Get rid of overhead on the pike god damn. It's confirmed to be bugged and makes literally no sense. Balance something other then archery and throwing according to realism for once.

Then, whatever is allowing people to visually and clearly "miss" and then wiggle around to actually hit after all? Fix the hell out of that. You shouldn't be able to thrust past someone who dodges your attack, and then spasm around waving your spear like a moron, somehow slapping them to death with the side of it. I mean, you've walked past the pointy bit but it can still stab you somehow? I don't even...

Don't need to take away their block. Damage is fine. Do whatever you want with speed. It doesn't matter. See above for what does. /\
« Last Edit: September 04, 2011, 10:33:42 am by Cheap_Shot »
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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #325 on: September 04, 2011, 10:43:40 am »
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Ok. I'll revise that. Get rid of overhead on the pike god damn. It's confirmed to be bugged and makes literally no sense. Balance something other then archery and throwing according to realism for once.

Then, whatever is allowing people to visually and clearly "miss" and then wiggle around to actually hit after all? Fix the hell out of that. You shouldn't be able to thrust past someone who dodges your attack, and then spasm around waving your spear like a moron, somehow slapping them to death with the side of it. I mean, you've walked past the pointy bit but it can still stab you somehow? I don't even...

Don't need to take away their block. Damage is fine. Do whatever you want with speed. It doesn't matter. See above for what does. /\

Overhead we all agree on.  The whole being able to "miss" and then "wiggle" it?  Yeah, that's a huge problem with every weapon (most noticable on 2h'ers and pike style weapons though.)  Most of us want that fixed as well, yes.  Those that don't are those 2hers that abuse the shit out of the lightsaber effect.
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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #326 on: September 04, 2011, 11:03:47 am »
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Overhead we all agree on.  The whole being able to "miss" and then "wiggle" it?  Yeah, that's a huge problem with every weapon (most noticable on 2h'ers and pike style weapons though.)  Most of us want that fixed as well, yes.  Those that don't are those 2hers that abuse the shit out of the lightsaber effect.

So basically if there were a vote we'd be at a dead split, or the jedis would probably even be winning.  :lol:
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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #327 on: September 04, 2011, 11:06:34 am »
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So basically if there were a vote we'd be at a dead split, or the jedis would probably even be winning.  :lol:

Pretty much  :mrgreen:
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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #328 on: September 05, 2011, 02:03:20 pm »
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I lightsaber the shit out of people when on a 2h. It is amazingly broken!
>thrust passed people
>They stop blocking
>Swing sword thrust into their side
> Both of our brains explode
Same thing with slow overheads and hitting people in the legs by dragging.

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Re: Long spears aka pikes
« Reply #329 on: September 05, 2011, 02:26:39 pm »
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We need moar pikes!

Everyone should roll a pikemen so we can have pike wars.