No, really, what? Cav isn't a real class?

[chadz]

I think the reason was to increase 1h cav and make cav lancing more skill based and less yoga based.

Or so I've heard.

[Miralay]

1h cav is only a class which can kill unaware enemies, nothing else. when a 2h'er notice you they can use thrust to kill 1h/2h cav players.

we were able to kill aggressive 2h players with lances but it is taken from us nown

i also like to add something new to this discussion: while all ha cried we move-stop-shoot bla bla, after hotfix i see no such thing. instead i tested if i can do any good against ha with my heavy lance and result is a TOTAL failure.

ha can easily get past me from my left or right and while he does it, all i can do is thrusting empty air in front me and probably looking very retarded. if you're not ranged class player, lancers were your only chance to chase ha and push them to make a mistake but now you disabled it

so in a different view, ha got an ultimate buff..

ps: i'm not talking about 1,3k courser upkeep - shocked 

[SkyrayFox]

1h cav is only a class which can kill unaware enemies, nothing else. when a 2h'er notice you they can use thrust to kill 1h/2h cav players.

 

Looks like I'm special.

[Miralay]

yes you're.. you're the only person i see going on with full heavy gear which consist of 1plated charger, 1tincan armor and your sword and shield.

i don't know how you find gold to support your war expenses but you're not representing whole cavalry class, that's for sure

[Ujin]

Thew new lancing  has very little to do with skill and more to do with picking your targets carefully and, like mentioned before, backstabbing. The most fun aspect of lancing (for me at least) - cav vs cav fights, is now degraded and is pretty much not interesting for a lancer.

Skill is the last word i'd use in the same sentence when talking about the new lancing system. It is acceptable, but you've taken 3/4 of the fun from a whole class.

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I personally find cav to cav fights more interesting now, actually, since movement matters a lot more than it did before and it is no longer only about timing your lance thrust. Also, you should ask Tommyyy, how he deals with this nerf ;)

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He had something like a 30-1 (or better, don't remember) score last night, raping both cavalry and infantry alike in that desert oasis map >_<

[Ujin]

I don't have problems  "dealing" with this nerf either, it's not that hard to adjust to. It's just not as fun (specially when it comes to cav vs cav) anymore, that's what i'm saying.

[Felix]

True. No more fun. Prepatch it was like a beautiful dance. Now it's chaaarge - miss - turn - chaaarge - miss...

I think the reason was to increase 1h cav and make cav lancing more skill based and less yoga based.

Or so I've heard.

I think your dev team failed to do so. Not that i am whining, it's really not that hard to adjust, but the cav gameplay has become poor and straight.

[Memento_Mori]

Nah, cav just need to shape up.

Lots of decent cav players still topping the boards all the crappy ones are just wasting cash on upkeep and repairs.
point being, if cav is no fun for you now I guess you better change classes or wait & whine until they 'fix' it for you.



death to the helicopter lancers, and good riddance.

[PhantomZero]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Cav didn't really get nerfed, cav's ability to deal with other cav has been nerfed. It isn't really skill, but more about timing now, since head to head cav duels are going to be the norm, the heavy lance will become even more popular despite the increase in cost. Light and Regular lances will be forced to catch other cav unaware, from the sides, rear is too easy to dodge and won't do enough damage.

Cav can still run over infantry same as before.

[Kafein]

I think the reason was to increase 1h cav and make cav lancing more skill based and less yoga based.

Or so I've heard.

THIS

You guys seriously never heard of 1h cav or something ?

Furthermore, the ability to attack inf didn't really changed. Cav was already all about catching unaware people.

True. No more fun. Prepatch it was like a beautiful dance. Now it's chaaarge - miss - turn - chaaarge - miss...

I think your dev team failed to do so. Not that i am whining, it's really not that hard to adjust, but the cav gameplay has become poor and straight.

You make me laugh, "beautiful dance" my ass... It was just all about "I have one more maneuver than you therefore I win". If you can't manage to have a real combat, not some ages long 3yo dispute, I guess you should just change class, hmm ? Now lance duels are what they are supposed to be. One hit, one mistake, all about perfect timing. This is more interesting than spending hours turning around each other.

[Lord_Panos]

Looks like I'm retarded.

 

[Felix]

Lol. I guess those lancers being happy are those who couldn't manage pre-patch cav battles cause they were noobs. Well, nice for you. Now the cav battle was simplified - you may get some kills as well  (in cav vs cav battles)

Timing? Real combat? Lol. Wake up bud. Cav battles now look more like a 80-years old granny fight. Fuck, it's more like a stop motion now.

[Assarhaddon]

Posted by: chadz
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I think the reason was to increase 1h cav and make cav lancing more skill based and less yoga based.

But we need our yoga hours.
Without em we turn into stiff old men.. (not the good kind stiff)
 

[Rannepear]

Cav was buffed in the following ways:
1) Lance is faster

The faster lance is actually not a buff. Somehow, with it being faster, it lowers the damage potential of the lance. Maybe you have a MW heavy lance, but I used to be able to 1 hit most archers and now I have to hit them at least twice.

Really the 40 degree angle thing doesnt bother me at all...It's the damage decrease. Though this is slightly compensated by my charge boost.