All the samurai equipment is overpriced and shitty because it's "exotic." Use a different weapons for more pierce.
Katana is not UP, it's op.:?
are people really complaining about the 9 str requirement on the katana?I don't get it either. It's suicide to use a katana with 9 str.
Short weapons have thrust advantage over long weapons in CQC, you stab with the katana, you can stab closer without bounceehm..no. You cant stab with the katana without bounce the range doesnt matter
I never ever will use an Katana but i have tears in my eyes when some people i really like have to fight with this horrible weapon because thats their style.
Miaodao Nodachi etc. are all very good weapons so that miaodao already gets used by european knights which looks a bit silly. So this exotic weapon argument doesnt fit cause Katana is one of the few that are really fucked up.
Either give Katana more cut ore raise stab to at least 20 Pierce.
Katana last got nerfed because we had once one member, who started a completely unreasonable discussion in the forums to buff the katana into something insane.. It got nerfed because Fasader got annoyed on his silly trolling. After the event, said player left the clan and cRPG altogether.
I was away for those few days or I would have stopped him before he managed to make a fool of himself.
Anyway, dear Fasader, I think we have been collectively been punished enough. Ninja clan member will always have restrictions on what gear to use, and we are quite frustrated because our weapon of choice is not on-par with most other middle to high-end weapons. What we ask is for, is for it to have stats comparable to other 2 handers.. More cut, +2 and a thrust that isn't nearly suicidal. (Nowadays, a bounce on a thrust with the stun is suicidal) 20p would be reasonable. (And feel free to remove the ability to use katana with shield and on horse. Nobody uses it like that, and there are much better options anyway)
If there won't be a buff, I would appreciate some reasoning for why the katana stays like it is, so we can stop these endless whine posts, and not waste anymore time on it.
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Katana as it is now:
weapon length: 95
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 9
speed rating: 101
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 16 pierce
swing damage: 35 cut
slots: 2
Suggestion:
Buffed Katana
weapon length: 95
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 9
speed rating: 101
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 20 pierce
swing damage: 37 cut
slots: 2
Just to compare it with something:
Heavy Bastard Sword for half the price
weapon length: 105
weight: 2
difficulty: 10
speed rating: 98
weapon length: 105
thrust damage: 23 pierce
swing damage: 36 cut
Secondary Mode
slots: 2
I don't get it either. It's suicide to use a katana with 9 str.
Katana last got nerfed because we had once one member, who started a completely unreasonable discussion in the forums to buff the katana into something insane.. It got nerfed because Fasader got annoyed on his silly trolling. After the event, said player left the clan and cRPG altogether.
I was away for those few days or I would have stopped him before he managed to make a fool of himself.
Anyway, dear Fasader, I think we have been collectively been punished enough. Ninja clan member will always have restrictions on what gear to use, and we are quite frustrated because our weapon of choice is not on-par with most other middle to high-end weapons. What we ask is for, is for it to have stats comparable to other 2 handers.. More cut, +2 and a thrust that isn't nearly suicidal. (Nowadays, a bounce on a thrust with the stun is suicidal) 20p would be reasonable. (And feel free to remove the ability to use katana with shield and on horse. Nobody uses it like that, and there are much better options anyway)
If there won't be a buff, I would appreciate some reasoning for why the katana stays like it is, so we can stop these endless whine posts, and not waste anymore time on it.
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Katana as it is now:
weapon length: 95
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 9
speed rating: 101
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 16 pierce
swing damage: 35 cut
slots: 2
Suggestion:
Buffed Katana
weapon length: 95
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 9
speed rating: 101
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 20 pierce
swing damage: 37 cut
slots: 2
Just to compare it with something:
Heavy Bastard Sword for half the price
weapon length: 105
weight: 2
difficulty: 10
speed rating: 98
weapon length: 105
thrust damage: 23 pierce
swing damage: 36 cut
Secondary Mode
slots: 2
+1 but onyl 36 cut i dont think it should go higher or all spamtards come back to katana.
Its really not suicide, i've got a 1:1 KD on my 9 str +rest agi alt and hes not even lvl 30 yet, just have to pick your targets and not be a complete fucktard.
Its not what you want for a clan fight but my god its funny on the duel server or for making stupid flanking attacks on the edge of the map.
Katana as it is now:
weapon length: 95
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 9
speed rating: 101
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 16 pierce
swing damage: 35 cut
slots: 2
Suggestion:
Buffed Katana
weapon length: 95
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 9
speed rating: 101
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 20 pierce
swing damage: 37 cut
slots: 2
Proper Katana
weapon length: 95
weight: 1.5
difficulty: 11
speed rating: 99
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 18 pierce
swing damage: 35 cut
slots: 1
Hello nerfed Archer-Katana
I'm all for weeaboo hate, but i can agree with proper pricing IF all those items will be mid-tier equipment (not on par with best choices but not useless either). Those ninjas want all they toys to be top tier choices while those items don't deserve to be top tier.
I'm all for weeaboo hate, but i can agree with proper pricing IF all those items will be mid-tier equipment (not on par with best choices but not useless either). Those ninjas want all they toys to be top tier choices while those items don't deserve to be top tier.Sure a katana doesnt deserve to be a top tier weapon. It was only the dominant weapon in an entire nation for two centuries and has become the symbol of feudal Japan as a whole so I'm sure it was quite shitty.
Sure a katana doesnt deserve to be a top tier weapon. It was only the dominant weapon in an entire nation for two centuries and has become the symbol of feudal Japan as a whole so I'm sure it was quite shitty.Knife: 16 pierce
But just look at the stab
Katana: 16p
Studded Warclub: 16b
Long Iron Mace: 20b
Wakizashi 19p
StaffHey, didn't you have to pay for the speed of the katana? Seems speed is awfully cheap.
speed rating: 103
price: 346
Sure a katana doesnt deserve to be a top tier weapon. It was only the dominant weapon in an entire nation for two centuries and has become the symbol of feudal Japan as a whole so I'm sure it was quite shitty.
You are a dumbass. "They" (not just the ninja clan) want the katana to better represent the price it costs to use. There's a reason why the danish and german swords have great stats and also a high price. Currently, the katana isn't as good as a longsword or bastard sword that cost much less to use. The solution is to either reduce the cost of the katana or increase the damage.
Lol, it was not primary weapon used on battlefield.True. During the middle ages, the primary weapon was spear, regardless of country.
And it was shitty.http://www.thehaca.com/essays/longsword-and-katana.html
I don't understand the whole fuss: It is clear that bastard and longsword are currently better, and I don't think weaboos whould be punished or being weaboos.
Add +2 more points to cutting and most will agree it is OK. It remains short, but fast, and with +2 more points to cut deadly weapon.
Or, reduce its price for another three or so thousands, so that it is cheaper than longsword. But, I would prefer first option, especially having in mind that ninjas usually don't have enough PS for decent damage.
I see, since my evaluation shit hasn't changed.
This whole topic, katana stats and price last was adressed some months ago.
Katana still is overpriced, its stab is a joke.
Over and out.
P.S Everything in this mod always takes around 3 or more months to change, everybody should know this by now xD
okay, but you are one of the best players dear Casimir.. (!)
Now whats yout K:D with your other sword?
However, the 9str requirement really isn't something to be disregarded.
or go to 12 str 4 PS and have less overall wpf/athletics but better killing power.
katana's nerf was so major it left it being basically weaker than a bastard sword in alot of ways, the people who argue for its potency have never used one, in fact guys like Urlukur are pure 1h'ers foreverI used 2h weapons, when i loot them from the ground for lolz. Always did fine, even with 1 wpf in them.
I'd add weight back into the katana, the fact now that people are just using MW war spears/red tassel spears/iron staffs etc at same kind of top tier speeds(97+) but with the polestun they're doing it like katanas never could as high agi spammers
NOOOOOOO! They didn't buff the katana, well atleast they didnt nerf it.They nerfed it btw. MW got 102 instead of 103 speed now
make it around 20p, 40c and 99 speed. req 12.
plus i am no longer bias since I switched to hafted blade long ago and never intend to use a crappy 95 reach katana again.
Do that now to glance less. You don't have to have 9 strength because that's its requirement. :lol:
Also, the stab is a joke. It's more of a liability than a decent option. Just remove it already, and maybe give one or two more cut damage on swings.
Was hoping for a Katana buff, but instead got a -1 Speed and +5-10% cost increase.
:cry:
Was hoping for a Katana buff, but instead got a -1 Speed and +5-10% cost increase.
:cry:
I recently rolled a katana spammer(atm lvl 22, 9 str, 21 agi) and it's super effective. Noone seems to be able to keep up with its speed, even at this low level. It really profits a lot from the soak nerf. From my point of view it's fine.
Why is this the only wep that got this special nerf?
Same reason why arrows get double the upkeep and nothing else, so carrying the standard two quivers of bodkins means that you are effectively upkeeping 20,232 gold.No, not really. The same reason would be, if every 2h was overpriced, but in this case its just the katana. Thats like only the bodkins would have the double repair thing and the rest not.
No, not really. The same reason would be, if every 2h was overpriced, but in this case its just the katana. Thats like only the bodkins would have the double repair thing and the rest not.