Typical commie
Rick Perry, Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum's similar answer: No, the government should sponsor abstinence education programs instead
Should the U.S. remove references to God from currency, federal buildings, national monuments and other aspects of government?Fucking pussies, all of them.
You: Yes
Should foreign terrorism suspects be given constitutional rights?Republicans.
Marco Rubio and Carly Fiorina: No
Jeb Bush and Rick Santorum: No, they should be tried in military tribunals but not subject to torture
Lindsey Graham, Donald Trump and Ted Cruz: No, they are not U.S. citizens and should be subject to enhanced interrogation methods
Do you support affirmative action programs?tumblrmy old friends
Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders: Yes
Martin O'Malley: Yes, and laws should be passed requiring all federal agencies to give favorable treatments to minorities
Should the redrawing of Congressional districts be controlled by an independent, non-partisan commission?Ted Cruz pls
Scott Walker: No, there is no better alternative
Rick Perry, Martin O'Malley and Rick Santorum: No
Ted Cruz: No, gerrymandering allows officials to more effectively represent the interests of their constituency
Should internet service providers be allowed to prioritize traffic for websites that pay higher rates than their competitors?To these guys: just die.
Lindsey Graham, Donald Trump, Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina and Rick Santorum: Yes
Rick Perry, Rand Paul and Ted Cruz: Yes, this would make the internet faster and more reliable for users
Should able-bodied, mentally capable adults who receive welfare be required to work?I suppose they are missing slavery. Ted Cruz award to Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz: Yes, and eliminate welfare all together as it is not authorized in the Constitution
Lindsey Graham, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, Ben Carson, Hillary Clinton and Carly Fiorina: Yes
Rick Perry, Donald Trump, Scott Walker, Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum: Yes, adults who receive government benefits should be required to work
Should employers be required to pay men and women, who perform the same work, the same salary?It's already required with the same work, this question is meaningless.
Martin O'Malley, Chris Christie, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Carly Fiorina and Mike Huckabee: Yes
Shows to me, that only rich and influencial have any chance to become president.
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So, no more obama?
Fucking pussies, all of them.
Republicans.
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To these guys: just die.
I suppose they are missing slavery. Ted Cruz award to Ted Cruz.
It's already required with the same work, this question is meaningless.
Meh, non issue for me, dont really give a shit whats carved into our buildings and on our money
sure, have leeches not contribute anything and waste our money
88% for Bernie, but who the hell is Martin O'Malley?
I'm just realistic. Enjoy watching your golden boy get absolutely obliterated despite his super present online cheering squad.
Bernie Sanders is shades of Ron Paul. Same loud minority (overrepresented on the internet) completely convinced he's the second coming of Jesus, but watch him fail spectatularly in the primaries. No one who is not beholden to one of the two major parties can achieve anything by running for presidential election except weaken one of the sides. In fact I'm pretty sure that it's in the best interest of one of the parties to build as much hype as possible for Sanders, make his accolytes nice and dissilusioned with the process once the primaries are done and unwilling to vote for the person who defeated "their" candidate. Same shit that happened with Ron Paul fanatics.
The only candidates who are able to think rationally are maybe Rand Paul and Hillary Clinton
Hillary is not a person you want at the helm of the Juggernaugt ... but the alternatives looks horrible.. lose-loseproposition imo.
I don't follow American politics much, but what exactly is so bad about Hillary Clinton?
I don't follow American politics much, but what exactly is so bad about Hillary Clinton?
I don't follow American politics much, but what exactly is so bad about Hillary Clinton?
Why the republicans could not drum up their own female candidate is beyond me. (Carly Fiorina , who ran HP to the ground was all they could come up with.)
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I am no expert on american politics.. the negative i can see is that she is
1. Wife of former president. Have no love for the powerhousedynasties. Weakens democracy.
2. She has been to long in politics, gotten involved in to many scandals. Her husbands affair, personal finance, deleting emails .. etc
3. She is most likly a sociopath, but that is not so uncommon at the top.
4. Her health is an issue. Stroke/blodclot in the skull in 2013 (not confirmed), uses special glasses for double vision. Physical health is one thing, has it affected her mental capacities?
Overall she will pull much support because she can become the first female president. Why the republicans could not drum up their own female candidate is beyond me. (Carly Fiorina , who ran HP to the ground was all they could come up with.)
Or atleast put some color on it.. like a latino or asian. As of now... all old white men.. or teapartycandidates.
They had 8 years to plan this.. and this is what they could come up with?
Maybe it does not matter... puppets and actors.
I am ranting sorry.
Sanders : 99%
Seriously tho, people in America should maybe consider making people more equal between themselves, a student shouldn't have to repay his debts for his next 10 years. That's just reserving the studies for those who've got the money rather than for those who deserve to study.
Or better yet:Studies shouldn't be something you can't afford to do. Unless, of course, you want an uneducated, unqualified nation.
Don't do something you can't afford to do?
Or better yet:
Don't do something you can't afford to do?
Or better yet:
Don't do something you can't afford to do?
I am always so staggered to learn what kind of people actually have Republican views, it is so extremely backwards I always assume the Republican vote consists solely of 50 year rednecks and Christians, not young people with life-long access to the internet.
I always wonder why a balkan shithole like Croatia can afford free tuition and free healthcare but a rich and powerful country like the US cant or wont. You seriously need some kind of socialist democrat reformer to bring your shit up to western standards.
probably because your country is the size of americas butthole with a stupidly high unemployment rate.
If americas butthole with a stupidly high unemployment rate can afford it, whats stopping the US?
If americas butthole with a stupidly high unemployment rate can afford it, whats stopping the US?
if you have all these highly educated croatians, why are they not filling your workforce? where are your jobs? im sure your higher education can explain it.
competition breeds success, atleast thats how the saying goes. Paying for the experience to attend a college of prestige where the best and brightest educate, sounds like a successful formula. You get what you pay for. Now there are clearly options for people with either little or no budget, and if you have the GPA for this anyways, getting into a college, even if its a community college shouldnt be an issue whatsoever. Only seems the people who didnt put forth the effort in high school are the ones suffering, since they wont receive the funding that someone else would if they tried.
This spills over into healthcare as well, where some of the best doctors in the world are in the United States. Id assume, this is directly because of the competition for success being pushed. It is what it is, obviously every system is going to have flaws, its just choosing the one best suited for the situation. Now of course the issue of providing healthcare to every tom, dick, and harry is another issue, and id rather not get into it.
Its up to the states to provide the standards, of which they mostly have. Having a high GPA gives you the ability to apply for local/state/federal grants that for the most part either give you completely free education, or at such a reduced rate that paying 10% of what you would have paid is a godsend. Most states already have these in place.
Dont wurri doe, im just bakards reneck wif no ejucashion.
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Yes because paying tuition and healthcare = 20% unemployment. Thats obviously Croatias problem.... Not the industry obliterated in the war, rampart corruption, a botched privatization project, dreadfully inneficient bureaucracy and abysmall leadership.
All those commie scandinavian and western European countries that also have this unemployment problem because they pay the tution and healthcare... oh wait.
True, but in this case it's not backwards, it's political: poor + educated = most likely not republican.
Defeating the evil democrats is more important than the well being of the nation. Real patriots.
then dont bother comparing a country and stating, well a country the size of a thimble can do it, why not one the size of the entire continent????
Are you really pround of being lumped with the likes of Africa, Russia and the middle eastren shitholes when it comes to this issue?
I came on too harsh, im just jaded from arguing with people who think social safety nets are handouts for bums. You dont have to be a bum to have the misfortune of needing them and im greatful i live in a country in which i dont have to worry about those things, ill gladly pay more taxes for that. Now, if this shithole could fix the other problems...
It is funny that most non-Americans are so big on Bernie the man (including me, as seen below).
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Tuition fees also serve to keep social mobility at a minimum, ironically in countries where the myth of the self-made man are strongest (US/UK).
Hillary's recent email-deleting thing would have gotten anyone not in politics jailed.
I'm not trying to sound conceded but I was 98th percentile and I never received any financial aid. The formulas that are used to determine financial aid are completely broken. You have to be poor working class to qualify for them and that's okay for some people but it does nothing for lower middle class applicants like me. I would be financially ruined if I went straight to university so instead I went to community college and transferred. It's not that big of a deal but I can't help but think I was denied an opportunity because of a screwed up financial aid system.
You don't have to be from a poor working class background. Plenty of middle class and even upper middle class and beyond minorities are eligible for financial aid, regardless of their parent's socioeconomic position. The zeitgeist of identity politics means that the most important primary factor for financial aid (socioeconomic position) is relegated to minor factor. Unless you have east asian origins, in which case you're even more screwed than "whites". Some people just seem unable to understand there is such thing as middle class and above minorities. Did you go into a STEM field? If you had, as a woman you would've had much financial backing from myriad organizations, regardless if you came from the top 1%.
So, you are trying to say that the US cant afford it? I assure you it CAN
Here, pick one that isnt the size of a timble if that will satisfy you
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Are you really pround of being lumped with the likes of Africa, Russia and the middle eastren shitholes when it comes to this issue?
reducing a ridiculously complex clusterfuck to something akin to animal personality tests
It demonstrates better than anything that just because you agree with someone's stance on key issues doesn't mean you'd ever vote for them, and just cos you disagree with someone that doesn't mean you *wouldn't* vote for them.
Because since when has agreeing on key issues had anything to do with the way people vote, what's more important is whether or not they're in the same political party that your parents voted for.
Donald Trump best Trump!
He has such a high entertainment value. Even more than G.W. Bush had.
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Also, long live Bill Maher! I get my news about the US from him and I love him. Bernie Sanders has been in his show (Real Time) many times, by the way.
in America we hate everything British/European (or just do AMERIKKKAN remakes like The Office) except fat worthless USA housewives who share posts of royal babies on Facebook more than their own family.
Lol please, americans will slobber over practically any "english" accented personality they listen to. Sounds so fancy! Why do you think there's such a glut of brits in your media?
Lol please, americans will slobber over practically any "english" accented personality they listen to. Sounds so fancy! Why do you think there's such a glut of brits in your media?
James Corden being the prime example. Everyone hates him here so he exported himself out to the US where he seems to have become a big hit even though he's a total knob.
John Oliver's jokes fucking suck. He comes off as that one creepy dude who sneaked into your social group and tries to win everyone over by acting like a dumb puppy and telling stupid jokes all the goddamn time. Go back to kissing your queen's ass, Johnny, I know you secretly miss the taste and smell of old diapers.
John Oliver's jokes fucking suck. He comes off as that one creepy dude who sneaked into your social group and tries to win everyone over by acting like a dumb puppy and telling stupid jokes all the goddamn time. Go back to kissing your queen's ass, Johnny, I know you secretly miss the taste and smell of old diapers.
There's so much wrong, but reducing a ridiculously complex clusterfuck to something akin to animal personality tests probably doesn't help much. Look at all these characters and factions to choose from, and what they stand for. Let's not look at a system that doesn't incentivize politicians to come up with efficient policy. Still, apparently I'd rather vote for Bernie Sanders than Ted Cruz. It's the tiny, tiny victories we have to fight for, I guess. Ugh.
Just because his jokes suck doesn't mean the facts he brings up are wrong.
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Smoothrich, go back to singing, history isn't your forte. Neither is trolling.
Rick Santorum has to be one of the more slimy-looking politicians I've seen in my life.
Not Andrew Weiner? He does occasionally dress well though, which is an oddity for politicians here. Doesn't take away from his sneaky snake face.
Yeah, Weiner looks like the dubious accountant of some crime family, or straight out of a Goldman Sachs board meeting.
lmao, you mean he looks like a Jew?
Or a sleazy guido. I don't actually know anything about this guy's politics, I guess the combination of the name Weiner and the dickpick fiasco has tied his reputation irrevocably to that event.
Ha ha, yes, he looks like both.
Yeah but he's actually a New York Jewish guy, just like you both are actually typical European anti-Semitic racists.Oh noes, not the worst insult in all the world, anti-Semitic!111111
Oh noes, not the worst insult in all the world, anti-Semitic!111111
just like you both are actually typical European anti-Semitic racists.
Come on... don't burn up... Relax, sit down and enjoy a shower. If it gets too bad take a train ride.
dang dooder u like to live life on le edge
Sanders was just starting to address several thousand people gathered shoulder to shoulder at Westlake Park when two women took over the microphone.
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Organizers couldn't persuade the two to wait and agreed to give them a few minutes, prompting boos from some in the crowd.
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When the crowd asked the activists to allow Sanders to speak, one activist called the crowd "white supremacist liberals," according to event participants. Participants also said a Black Lives Matter activist confronted Sanders, stating he needed "to be held accountable".
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After waiting about 20 minutes, Sanders himself was pushed away when he tried to take the microphone back.
Social Security Works rally organizers pleaded with Black Lives Matter activists to leave the stage and allow Sanders to speak, but the activists remained on stage until the event was forced to end.
What, how hard is it to chuck two women off a stage?mb cos they was white? the black one will be shoted immediately :P
Wow, this pissed me off.:rolleyes:
I have a hard time understanding how they couldn't grasp that people were not booing their message - which they subsequently managed to corrupt entirely on their own - but the fact that they forced their way to the podium and aggressively hijacked the event, antagonized potential allies and hurting whatever cause they claim to be promoting.:rolleyes:(click to show/hide)
By interrupting Bernie Sanders, they're gaining pretty good publicity, and picking Bernie Sanders in particular because it won't completely alienate this specific ally and his followers.
I have a hard time understanding how they couldn't grasp that people were not booing their message - which they subsequently managed to corrupt entirely on their own - but the fact that they forced their way to the podium and aggressively hijacked the event, antagonized potential allies and hurting whatever cause they claim to be promoting.
Fat black women have this way of being the most irritating creature on Earth.
Fat black women have this way of being the most irritating creature on Earth.
The way they both cried and acted hysterically on stage had me get Hitler flashbacks.Yes. That was the best part.
What?From reading comments I got the impression that much of the audience sympathized with the underlying Black Power I mean Black Lives Matter message against extrajudicial killings of black people by police, but was bothered by their behaviour at this particular event. I wasn't voicing my personal opinion.
I would totally have booed their shitty, openly racist message.
I don't follow American politics much, but what exactly is so bad about Hillary Clinton?Wall Street politics and warmongering, like the rest.
As Secretary of State, Clinton backed a bold escalation of the Afghanistan war. She pressed Obama to arm the Syrian rebels, and later endorsed air strikes against the Assad regime. She backed intervention in Libya, and her State Department helped enable Obama’s expansion of lethal drone strikes. In fact, Clinton may have been the administration’s most reliable advocate for military action. On at least three crucial issues—Afghanistan, Libya, and the bin Laden raid—Clinton took a more aggressive line than Gates, a Bush-appointed Republican.http://swampland.time.com/2014/01/14/hillary-clintons-unapologetically-hawkish-record-faces-2016-test/
What USA really needs is full blown Jewish president. [...]
Sanders was born in Brooklyn, the son of Eli and Dorothy (Glassberg) Sanders.[23][24] His father was a Jewish immigrant from Poland whose family was killed in the Holocaust,[15][23][25] while his mother was born to Jewish parents in New York City.Sanders is a jew confirmed.
Why is he an idiot?
And dreaming aside, isn't it pretty much a given either Bush or Clinton will win?
That's the thing though, they both would want to get re-elected and aren't completely idiotic. People like Sanders getting sizable support does at least give the favorites a hint of what people really want. Only looking at who wins the elections is short-sighted.
Yes, it does help them get an idea of what people really want, but will the favorites go beyond words on that?
What USA really needs is full blown Jewish president. Jews are already running the business, it would be nice for a change to make it official. Jokes aside, I really believe America needs Jewish president. Have nothing but utmost respect for Jewish people because they are exceptionally capable on average and responsible for many technical advancements in last couple centuries. Their excellence is the main reason why so many people around the globe envy them, which over time is converted into full blown hate.
Sadly, USA is too engulfed in Christian bullshit to even consider this.
Also Leshma, Jeb Bush is incredibly intelligent. He probably knows more about the history of your country than you do lol. He's too smart and bookish honestly, it works against him compared to blowhard Trump. Jeb Bush is married to a Mexican immigrant, has three biracial children, speaks fluent Spanish, was a successful businessman in many fields and a popular Republican Governor in the ethnically and politically diverse state of Florida.
I've always found the fact that people equate the amount of languages known with intelligence funny. "Oh gosh, he's so smart, he speaks SEVEN languages!" Yeah, well, babies learn languages and there are a ton of kids under three that speak several, so that gives you some idea about what the minimum level of intelligence required is -- in other words, it says nothing about how smart someone is.
Though at this rate of NATO cowardice and EU disunity, maybe you all will be speaking Russian, Arabic, and Chinese or more likely, dead by the 22th century instead lmao. Maybe America will just annex Western and Central Europe by then out of necessity and we'd all salute some baller XXXL sized 100 star USA flag as a possibility too.
I always wonder why a balkan shithole like Croatia can afford free tuition and free healthcare but a rich and powerful country like the US cant or wont. You seriously need some kind of socialist democrat reformer to bring your shit up to western standards.
European states learned the value of cooperation and diplomacy and to dispense with jingoism and blind nationalism after the traumatic experiences of the two World Wars. US bravado and 19th century rhetoric is symptomatic of a still young institutional memory.
Western Europe is starting to close in on its prewar capacities again after total destruction 70 years ago and as a historical first German industry enjoys willing support from all its neighbours. German-French cooperation has never been stronger and no matter what we may think of it the European project is very much alive, with or without the poorer southern European states.
In pictures: http://blogs.reuters.com/photographers-blog/2013/03/27/the-german-french-friendship/
Also the GDP of France and Germany combined is only 1/4 of the US, nice industry you have there.
you seem to think we give a fuck, patriotism is an american thing
If you are unemployed or have a low income you get free health insurance in the US. Privatized insurance companies rake in billions of dollars every year and it's all taxed by the government.
Its not exactly free. I'm low income and I actually have to pay for it or be fined for not having health insurance.
Medicaid was supposed to be expanded everywhere to include more low income people, but lots of stupid fucker Republican governors refused to accept this free Federal money to help subsdize low income people for no reason.. do you live in one of those states? If so I'm sorry. I live in Minnesota now which already had a greatly expanded eligiblity pool for Medicaid, called "Minnesotacare." I get free health insurance cuz of it, which I couldn't believe when someone first told me about it. I have no idea why this isn't national policy, it should be the model everywhere. Instead some people suffer from a clause of Obamacare that is meant to stop people who can afford healthcare from not getting it, making the law not work as intended.
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Congratulations those two World Wars caused by Europeans only costed the lives of 130 million people, you might as well have killed the entire population of Norway over 22 times.GDP isn't really useful unless we use it per capita, where it becomes slightly less useless. But as you seem intent on comparing by total GDP the European Union (which is more than the France and Germany) still scores higher than the US, according to charts by the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and the CIA World Factbook.
Also the GDP of France and Germany combined is only 1/4 of the US, nice industry you have there.
Western Civilization's progress stopped when Rome fell and only resumed when America was created by people smart enough to leave Europe for good and start over with Roman law and Greek philosophy as its foundation.You are basically describing post-Renaissance European culture - the same culture virtually all of your own country's institutions are based on. I know it all looks the same if you have no idea what you're talking about.
Maybe after 1000 more years of history under its belt and some real wars on their doorstep the US will stop having such international short-man syndrome or stop acting like a 7 year old who loves playing war.
You are basically describing post-Renaissance European culture - the same culture virtually all of your own country's institutions are based on. I know it all looks the same if you have no idea what you're talking about.
Which doorstep? The one with the Pacific Fleet guarding it, or the one with the Atlantic Fleet? Either Fleet is bigger then the rest of the world's combined naval power, and just one of the several Carrier Strike Groups that control every world's ocean would destroy any other nation's Air Force within hours. America has complete control by an almost infinite measure of power of the skies, the seas and space and is surrounded by thousands of miles of ocean filled with undetectable nuclear submarines, Predator drones and satellites, etc..
We only gained this from winning the Pacific theater of WW2 which was the most intense Naval warfare in history, and USA was actually at a technological and numerical advantage for a lot of it and in many battles against a battle-hardened fanatical foe, and we completely wrecked them over and over again. Japan having every major city firebombed to dust except the two we kept intact just to nuke them at the end as an added Fuck You is a good example of what USA would do to any nation that dared attack us ever again, except it wouldn't take us years to do it again, just days, and no one in America would feel bad about it for a second.
Also back in the day, Texas alone was able to military defeat Mexico and capture their President within like, one week of Mexico declaring war on the relatively small newly formed Republic of Texas lmao. Today, every individual U.S. State has the GDP of one of Europe's most advanced economies too.
Its almost pathetic to think about how incredibly powerful the United States is compared to the 50 disunited states of Europe who all hate each other, speak different languages, the most prosperous states simply refuse to subsdize the poorest's social benefits and welfare or forgive debt, perform predatory lending coupled with crippling austerity measures upon their poorest EU member nations like some scummy loanshark, immigrants piling up by the thousands at the borders as actual walls are erected to keep them out, hundreds of thousands drowning in the Mediterranean with no one helping them, a slowly increasing rise of Islamic terror attacks as ISIS consolidates power over Libyan port cities with a direct connection to Europe's mainland.. lol you guys are an embarrassment to the 21st century for sure
Nope, just independent Italian City-State Republics, which Europe's despotic tyrants and genocidal religious zealots endlessly terrorized with wars of conquest until they all disappeared.New York became the financial capital after WWII when the rest of the world was destroyed, the former financial center's host country greatly indebted to the United States for fighting more or less alone against the Wehrmacht for years.
Eventually all the smart Italians got the right idea and settled in NYC, like every other immigrant group that was tired of the whole "being endlessly exploited and often genocided" such as Irish, Jews, and Poles who all contributed to New York City becoming the capital of the world in finance, culture, and diplomacy. Funny what diverse peoples can accomplish when you don't try to murder each other and every 20-30 years for 1500 years straight.
Unsure if trolling but as Teeth said, please continue, this is entertaining.
Also, we have free college/uni even in the shittiest countries in europe, mad? In fact, the cooler (in both meanings) countries even pay you to go to uni.
In the end, it's hilarious if you believe that your countries international power has any weight on your personal life as a pleb in US. You'd get bombed by your own people in power if you presented danger to them, just as anyone else in other countries would.
Peep this. This region alone is 20 percent of USA's GDP and population and is full of vibrant immigrant communities from all over the world, with hundreds of languages spoken. Its also the most "European" in aesthetic and culture, but we don't let immigrants drown to death in the NY harbor lolI can only speak for myself but I don't need any convincing to liking the United States. Like I do most other countries I generally find the culture, the people and the geography fascinating.(click to show/hide)
So what you're saying is that your nation will always play toy soldiers and you'll never grow up because you'll never experience war on the homefront. You'll never have an actual reason to fight, just keep inventing retarded proxy wars half-way across the globe so that you can feel relevant. Guess that explains why you still bitch so much about 9/11, you're that spoilt kid who's just been slapped for the first ever time and bawls their eyes out because you cant comprehend what's just happened, you wont find the rest of us so naïve.
You guys are an embarrassment to the 21st century for sure, keep going with your 'might makes right' rhetoric and keep worshipping your 'war heroes', you belong in the 1940s (which was quite frankly the last time your nation accomplished anything worthwhile).
fucking Hawaii was attacked by Japan, which is like 4000 miles away from Japan lol Pro Jap Tactics tbh. I still don't understand why both those countries declared war on us, blame them for basically inviting the US military to conquer everything in either directionWhen Japan had violated the Washington Agreements (and the principles of the Open Door policy) by threatening the US export market in China (by destructive invasion) the US and the UK froze Japanese assets and did an embargo which together with the Dutch embargo on oil from Indonesia seriously crippled Japan which was entirely dependent on importing most of its most vital resources (which is also why it was projecting power on the mainland to begin with). Roosevelt then warned the US Pacific Command of imminent aggression from Japan.
When Japan had violated the Washington Agreements (and the principles of the Open Door policy) by threatening the US export market in China (by destructive invasion) the US and the UK froze Japanese assets and did an embargo which together with the Dutch embargo on oil from Indonesia seriously crippled Japan which was entirely dependent on importing most of its most vital resources (which is also why it was projecting power on the mainland to begin with). Roosevelt then warned the US Pacific Command of imminent aggression from Japan.
We politely asked Japan to stop massacring millions of Chinese and sexually enslaving Koreans and we would lift the embargo. Instead they thought America would surrender after a treacherous sneak attack, thinking American democracy could not withstand the rigors of war. A few years later, their entire country was blockaded, people starving to death, and every city razed to ashes, ship sunk, and a new constitution was written by the American military reducing them to a powerless vassal state to the now sole masters of the Pacific lol. Then SK and Japan immediately became two of the most prosperous nations in the world with America as their greatest friend instead of enemy. USA owns
The whole Europe vs. USA discussion is kind of funny since pretty much every major nation in europe (Germany, France, GB etc.) is basically a vassal of the US since WW2.
yeah that's why the measure is gdp per capita, you fucking fool
You are greatly downplaying the vast scope of human right abuses and racial dominance theory. Japan was a monstrous empire that raped, tortured, enslaved or killed anyone who wasn't Japanese as normalized, even encouraged behavior. You cannot use geopolitics as an excuse to handwave their brutal subjugation of fellow Asians and some stupid ass fantatical Bushido code bs that codified surrender as the ultimate sin, so they all fought to the death, popularized suicide bomber attacks as legitimate warfare, fucking crazy Japs. They forced upwards of 100,000 Japanese civilians on Okinawa to kill themselves by throwing their babies then themselves off cliffs for no reason at all when the US was going to win the battle.
Every island or coastal province they captured for "resources" immediately turned into holocausts of the local population. Some of the worst war atrocities on record.
Imperial Japan was almost as bad as an actual European colonial empire!
lmao
So what you're saying is that your nation will always play toy soldiers and you'll never grow up because you'll never experience war on the homefront. You'll never have an actual reason to fight, just keep inventing retarded proxy wars half-way across the globe so that you can feel relevant. Guess that explains why you still bitch so much about 9/11, you're that spoilt kid who's just been slapped for the first ever time and bawls their eyes out because you cant comprehend what's just happened, you wont find the rest of us so naïve.
You guys are an embarrassment to the 21st century for sure, keep going with your 'might makes right' rhetoric and keep worshipping your 'war heroes', you belong in the 1940s (which was quite frankly the last time your nation accomplished anything worthwhile).
What the US needs is a strong leader like Trump to get it back on course, otherwise China will become the new superpower and that's not going to be fun for anyone.
EU citizens are losing their national identity in the same way British, Dutch and other former Europeans did centuries ago when they decided to try their luck overseas. Just shows how fragile and meaningless national identity really is. Only reason why you guys are cultivating your national identity is the same why you try mimic ancient Greece and Roman Empire on many fronts, because Europeans did it. As Heskey said, that is your weak spot. You see national identity as something cool kids have and want badly to be one of them.
What exactly has Europe accomplished in the last 100 years besides becoming a bunch of self-hating pushovers who are losing their own national identity in some foolish attempt at competing in the global market? The US is laughing at you, China is laughing at you, Russia is laughing at you, Trump is laughing at you.Europe has achieved education systems which are apparently far better than yours, as every single point you made was beyond retarded and a case and point of international "short man syndrome".
Europe has achieved education systems which are apparently far better than yours, as every single point you made was beyond retarded and a case and point of international "short man syndrome".
And we laugh back.
What, you think we'd actually be pleased if the US was proud of us? Lol. As if any European in the world would actually like their individual country to be more like the USA. If we were so 'self-hating' i'm sure our residents would take up arms and shoot up the nearest school to disperse their dissatisfaction at living in a shitty country - oh wait that's what people living in your country do.
Our national identity is fine and dandy atm thank you very much, it's just different from yours and that's a good thing (for reasons you'll clearly never comprehend). Let me see in the last 100 years... National Healthcare which means that if I get cancer or a chronic illness I don't become dirt-poor trying to pay for shitty US doctors to have a look at me. Yeah, we *wish* we were more like you, clearly leading the way as always. Again, you'd be pretty impressive, if this was still 1940.
I really feel that phrase should be used more often, it describes the US perfectly in so many ways.
From what I've seen with my own eyes, western Europe needs to keep declining at much faster rate to ever catch up with USA living standard. I mean, tech is cheap there and many other things but they look like bums compared to average western European. Don't get me started on big cities they live in, bunch of concrete and high buildings with few nice parts and bunch of slums like areas. And those suburbs, oh my :lol:
USA is definitely military and economic superpower as a whole but average American is in far shittier position than, let's say average Austrian, Dutch, German, Belgian, Dane etc.
The only thing that pertains to 1940 is the Socialist/Communist ideology in Europe that suppresses critical and independent thinking.I did not think any American with access to the internet would be able to say this with a straight face, are you trolling?
the US is a pretty damn great place to live
I did not think any American with access to the internet would be able to say this with a straight face, are you trolling?
In any case, I am just ridiculing your arguments, not your conclusion. I would never deny that Europe's glory age is over since World War II. Even though there are about half a dozen European countries which I consider more developed than the US, the US is a pretty damn great place to live and obviously the most powerful country in the world. Still, I'd say American domestic and international politics are nationalistic and dogmatic to an extent that seems comical and old-fashioned to me as a Dutch guy.
Still, I'd say American domestic and international politics are nationalistic and dogmatic to an extent that seems comical and old-fashioned to me as a Dutch guy.
Oh yeah, development aid, as you seem so determined to have an EU versus US cockfight for so many posts now, I'll indulge myself and tell you that development aid is one area where the EU does actually soundly beat the US. The United States is rather stingy for a while now.
Development aid in 2013:
European Union – $86.66 billion
United States – $31.55 billion
Compared to what? The cultural backlash from the destruction wrought by both WW1 and 2 and the subsequent complete abdication of any sort of historical or ethnic pride is the anomaly, the norm is nationalistic and dogmatic tribal identification the world over. Western Europe is a dying civilization, the tribal identities where there is this passion, no matter how illogical or ethnocentric or even fabricated from wholecloth, are the ones that are going to survive. One way or another the european continent is going to go back to this basic paragdim of civilization. Ideally it goes off as the multicultural utopians hope and a new unified ethnicity emerges after a few generations or melting pot, informed by past european values while also incorporating the elements of incoming cultures, but that is so much fairy dust in the wind as far as I'm concerned. The american melting pot was not a kind and "tolerant" process by any modern understanding. Even today I believe the uncompromising american national pride is partly the reasons why immigrants integrate much faster. It's certainly not anything to do with racial tolerance being somehow more common in the US, that's for sure.
I did not think any American with access to the internet would be able to say this with a straight face, are you trolling?
In any case, I am just ridiculing your arguments, not your conclusion. I would never deny that Europe's glory age is over since World War II. Even though there are about half a dozen European countries which I consider more developed than the US, the US is a pretty damn great place to live and obviously the most powerful country in the world. Still, I'd say American domestic and international politics are nationalistic and dogmatic to an extent that seems comical and old-fashioned to me as a Dutch guy.
Compared to what? The cultural backlash from the destruction wrought by both WW1 and 2 and the subsequent complete abdication of any sort of historical or ethnic pride is the anomaly, the norm is nationalistic and dogmatic tribal identification the world over. Western Europe is a dying civilization, the tribal identities where there is this passion, no matter how illogical or ethnocentric or even fabricated from wholecloth, are the ones that are going to survive. One way or another the european continent is going to go back to this basic paragdim of civilization. Ideally it goes off as the multicultural utopians hope and a new unified ethnicity emerges after a few generations or melting pot, informed by past european values while also incorporating the elements of incoming cultures, but that is so much fairy dust in the wind as far as I'm concerned. The american melting pot was not a kind and "tolerant" process by any modern understanding. Even today I believe the uncompromising american national pride is partly the reasons why immigrants integrate much faster. It's certainly not anything to do with racial tolerance being somehow more common in the US, that's for sure.I don't see how the rise of the US, the rise of China and the lack of rise or relative decline of Europe can be attributed to a nationalistic pride or a lack thereof. I would also say that Western Europe is doing quite alright despite its weak identity. I just find that dogmatism and appeals to nationalism get in the way of pragmatism in US policy-making. But yeah, Europe's self-hate and tendency to describe any critique of Islam and immigration as racist gets in the way of pragmatism too. Still, the US is so far on the other side of the spectrum that half the rhetoric sounds like populist babble to me.
I don't see how the rise of the US, the rise of China and the lack of rise or relative decline of Europe can be attributed to a nationalistic pride or a lack thereof. I would also say that Western Europe is doing quite alright despite its weak identity. I just find that dogmatism and appeals to nationalism get in the way of pragmatism in US policy-making. But yeah, Europe's self-hate and tendency to describe any critique of Islam and immigration as racist gets in the way of pragmatism too. Still, the US is so far on the other side of the spectrum that half the rhetoric sounds like populist babble to me.
I think the main problem with France is that it has never apologized for its war crimes like Germany has The French contribution to the Holocaust is seriously disgusting and never talked about.
Please shut the fuck up, you stupid piece of shit. Your grandfathers's glorious country was much more filled with collaborators willingly killing and hunting down jews than practically any other european country under chocolate chip cookie rule, why not shit all over the poles? Oh right, they had this little thing called the chocolate chip cookie army occupying them, I'm sure that wasn't a factor at all. Frankly hearing some fat piece of shit talking about war and combat is kind of hilarious to me. If your fat ass was occupied by the chocolate chip cookies you would bend your ass over to get fucked if it meant there was a twinkie in it for you, you sorry excuse for a man. Can you even walk a few blocks without collapsing in a pile of sweaty flesh?
Annnnd more retarded historical revisionism, although this is regarding the present so it's even more retarded. Please stop opening your mouth to speak on subjects you are so deeply, deeply ignorant of.
According to a Polish survey carried out by CBOS,[208] and published in January 2005, in which Poles were asked to assess their attitudes toward other nationalities representing different European and non-European countries, 45% claimed to feel antipathy towards Jews (steadily decreasing), 18% to feel sympathy (fluctuating by up to 10 percentage points annually; in 1997 it was 28%), while 29% felt impartial and 8% were undecided. Those surveyed were asked to express their feeling on the scale from −3 (strong antipathy) to +3 (strong sympathy). The average score for attitude towards Jews was −0.67 in that year. In the CBOS survey from 2010,[209] antipathy decreased to 27%, and sympathy rose to 31% (down from 34% in 2008). The average score for attitude was +0.05 at that time.
You're right I never actually researched this at all
Thanks for admitting every one of your arguements is pulled straight out of your globulous ass. Your 5 seconds of google to confirm your retarded preconceived crap is the height of scholarship and research.
yeah that's why the measure is gdp per capita, you fucking fool
I regret replying in this thread, now I have this in my feed. Smoothrich and Oberyn lmao
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The only thing that pertains to 1940 is that the US still shits itself at the concept of Communism and sees it in every shadow.
You know 'Breaking Bad'? The UK version of it sucked, because when he got cancer he got free treatment and the series ended (there was no series in the UK, it would've lasted 10 minutes). The idea of a mythical land where people who are ill cannot afford medical treatment and are condemned to die under their current means makes such good tv! Kinda like how a slow-motion train-wreck is great tv.
If it wasnt for me paying of the remaining house mortage i had last year, then i would have moved to america in a heartbeat... * praying for better economy to sell my house in*
When i come to America, i could only wish for someone like Smoothrich to educate me. Hes been winning ever since he made his CRPG song on cloud.... He had it right then, and he has it right now.. upperhand on the debate.
Wikipedia.. books.. random internet studies.. bunch of edited bull. I doo doo on history books.
Nothing beats learning history from the people themselves!
It seems Jeb Bush is my candidate. George wasnt that bad at all. Im content with this
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Compared to what? The cultural backlash from the destruction wrought by both WW1 and 2 and the subsequent complete abdication of any sort of historical or ethnic pride is the anomaly, the norm is nationalistic and dogmatic tribal identification the world over. Western Europe is a dying civilization, the tribal identities where there is this passion, no matter how illogical or ethnocentric or even fabricated from wholecloth, are the ones that are going to survive. One way or another the european continent is going to go back to this basic paragdim of civilization. Ideally it goes off as the multicultural utopians hope and a new unified ethnicity emerges after a few generations or melting pot, informed by past european values while also incorporating the elements of incoming cultures, but that is so much fairy dust in the wind as far as I'm concerned. The american melting pot was not a kind and "tolerant" process by any modern understanding. Even today I believe the uncompromising american national pride is partly the reasons why immigrants integrate much faster. It's certainly not anything to do with racial tolerance being somehow more common in the US, that's for sure.
Will you marry me Smoothrich so that I can get a green card?
he has done his homeworkOkay, that gave it away
Donald Trump will be a great president of the United States. He's charismatic and witty, and he certainly has the real world managerial experience; he has run businesses that give direct feedback in the form of profit or lack thereof instead of holding the equivalent of a tenure in some government position like much of his opposition has for their entire lives.
He doesn't so much throw the decrepit old electoral script out the window as he does tear it into pieces and snort it up his nose (much like Obama used to, only with crack cocaine instead of torn-up paper). For that alone, he is a worthy candidate: the career politicians aren't quite sure how to deal with him -- or what to make of him.
Trump, unlike others, needs no teleprompters or notes to tell him what to say next. No, he knows what he is about, he has done his homework; no one need put words in his mouth. He has rare authority. He is used to being listened to. He isn't afraid to say what he thinks.
It's important, of course, to understand that while he doesn't abide by the ancient rule book, he's still playing the game. Not everything he says should be taken literally - or, in some cases, even figuratively. The man must - and does! - employ political gambits just like everyone else, should he wish to have a real shot at the prize. And he does wish, and he does have. He's in it to win it.
Trump will employ aggressive tactics from the business world in the realm of politics. Tactics that are proven to work. He will be a leader that America's enemies will fear. He will not be anyone's door mat. He will not be Obama. Trump will do what must be done to achieve what must be achieved. Nations and groups all around the world will recognize this and act accordingly.
Simple social interactions, business, politics - these all share the same dynamics. People are people. Trump knows how to play people.
Trump's star is rising.
America's star will rise alongside his.
Donald Trump will be a great president of the United States. He's charismatic and witty, and he certainly has the real world managerial experience; he has run businesses that give direct feedback in the form of profit or lack thereof instead of holding the equivalent of a tenure in some government position like much of his opposition has for their entire lives.
He doesn't so much throw the decrepit old electoral script out the window as he does tear it into pieces and snort it up his nose (much like Obama used to, only with crack cocaine instead of torn-up paper). For that alone, he is a worthy candidate: the career politicians aren't quite sure how to deal with him -- or what to make of him.
Trump, unlike others, needs no teleprompters or notes to tell him what to say next. No, he knows what he is about, he has done his homework; no one need put words in his mouth. He has rare authority. He is used to being listened to. He isn't afraid to say what he thinks.
It's important, of course, to understand that while he doesn't abide by the ancient rule book, he's still playing the game. Not everything he says should be taken literally - or, in some cases, even figuratively. The man must - and does! - employ political gambits just like everyone else, should he wish to have a real shot at the prize. And he does wish, and he does have. He's in it to win it.
Trump will employ aggressive tactics from the business world in the realm of politics. Tactics that are proven to work. He will be a leader that America's enemies will fear. He will not be anyone's door mat. He will not be Obama. Trump will do what must be done to achieve what must be achieved. Nations and groups all around the world will recognize this and act accordingly.
Simple social interactions, business, politics - these all share the same dynamics. People are people. Trump knows how to play people.
Trump's star is rising.
America's star will rise alongside his.
:P
Thanks, I didn't get it and I wondered what kind of a fucking channel this was, now I've wasted 2 hours watching his "reaction" videos, upsetting my roommates with erratic laughter.(click to show/hide)
Thanks, I didn't get it and I wondered what kind of a fucking channel this was, now I've wasted 2 hours watching his "reaction" videos, upsetting my roommates with erratic laughter.
97% Bernie.
Also:
Thanks, I didn't get it and I wondered what kind of a fucking channel this was, now I've wasted 2 hours watching his "reaction" videos, upsetting my roommates with erratic laughter.
Yes ethan is a monster, the pranks ones best oneses es fupah3h3productions the only youtube channel worth subscribing to.
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It's a prank a bro it's a prank IT'S A PRANK IT'S A PRANKI would seriously just beat them up harder if they started chanting that, so fucking annoying. Not only their assumption that it "being a prank" excuses any behavior, but their tone when they say it.
I would seriously just beat them up harder if they started chanting that, so fucking annoying. Not only their assumption that it "being a prank" excuses any behavior, but their tone when they say it.And most of the time it's not even something you could in any way define as a prank. Being an asshole and harassing random people is not a "prank".
The american melting pot was not a kind and "tolerant" process by any modern understanding. Even today I believe the uncompromising american national pride is partly the reasons why immigrants integrate much faster. It's certainly not anything to do with racial tolerance being somehow more common in the US, that's for sure.Did you went to USA? Apart from NY, the immigrants are far for being integrated compared to EU. You can see everywhere, most of the people are interacting only with people from the same ethnicity and most of them are not even immigrants, they are 3-4th generations already. (not speaking about europeans descendants)
huehuehue social and domestic issue "more important to me" and education "somewhat important"... MURIKA!
I would seriously just beat them up harder if they started chanting that, so fucking annoying. Not only their assumption that it "being a prank" excuses any behavior, but their tone when they say it.
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Glory goes to Xant, for making a post with this link years? months ago!?
In your honor! My tribute!
It's a fucking cat, alright, you moron.