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[Umbra]

I came on too harsh, im just jaded from arguing with people who think social safety nets are handouts for bums. You dont have to be a bum to have the misfortune of needing them and im greatful i live in a country in which i dont have to worry about those things, ill gladly pay more taxes for that. Now, if this shithole could fix the other problems...

[AntiBlitz]

I came on too harsh, im just jaded from arguing with people who think social safety nets are handouts for bums. You dont have to be a bum to have the misfortune of needing them and im greatful i live in a country in which i dont have to worry about those things, ill gladly pay more taxes for that. Now, if this shithole could fix the other problems...

if they did pass some sort of blanket education legislation on a federal level, id like to see what it would entail, because it would still be up to the individual states to abide the law, or complain about it, until its thrown out or changed entirely.  Id also like to see how it would effect the private education sector, in terms of their tuition fees.  I still believe it would create a disparity between people who paid and who didnt.  It might sound stupid, but businesses would most assuredly take someone with a degree from a prestigious school like Notre Dame over a school like Lancaster community college for the poor, lol.  So either way, it still doesnt help any damn thing.

just random crap i googled since i became curious:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/thecollegebubble/2014/08/15/overqualified-and-underemployed-the-job-market-waiting-for-graduates/

[Algarn]

It is funny that most non-Americans are so big on Bernie the man (including me, as seen below).

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Sanders is comparable to the European mid left standards (not communism, despite most americans think) , that's why a lot of Europeans in this thread have a lot of similar answers in common.

[Tagora]

I'm not trying to sound conceded but I was 98th percentile and I never received any financial aid.  The formulas that are used to determine financial aid are completely broken.  You have to be poor working class to qualify for them and that's okay for some people but it does nothing for lower middle class applicants like me.  I would be financially ruined if I went straight to university so instead I went to community college and transferred.  It's not that big of a deal but I can't help but think I was denied an opportunity because of a screwed up financial aid system.

[Angantyr]

Tuition fees also serve to keep social mobility at a minimum, ironically in countries where the myth of the self-made man are strongest (US/UK).

[Tagora]

Tuition fees also serve to keep social mobility at a minimum, ironically in countries where the myth of the self-made man are strongest (US/UK).

I like to call it the myth of social mobility for this reason.

[Talanarsis]

Hillary's recent email-deleting thing would have gotten anyone not in politics jailed.

The only reason its such a huge deal is because she was Secretary of State. She wasn't supposed to use a personal email, but she did anyways. She also had her own server. First she said it was just easier to use one email because she only had one device. Then she admitted to owning multiple devices (multiple phones and an ipad, so she could have used one device for her personal email and another one for her government email.)

Oh, by the way nubs when she was Secretary of State she only paid her female employees 73 cents for every dollar her male employees made. So much for gender equality.

[Oberyn]

I'm not trying to sound conceded but I was 98th percentile and I never received any financial aid.  The formulas that are used to determine financial aid are completely broken.  You have to be poor working class to qualify for them and that's okay for some people but it does nothing for lower middle class applicants like me.  I would be financially ruined if I went straight to university so instead I went to community college and transferred.  It's not that big of a deal but I can't help but think I was denied an opportunity because of a screwed up financial aid system.

You don't have to be from a poor working class background. Plenty of middle class and even upper middle class and beyond minorities are eligible for financial aid, regardless of their parent's socioeconomic position. The zeitgeist of identity politics means that the most important primary factor for financial aid (socioeconomic position) is relegated to minor factor. Unless you have east asian origins, in which case you're even more screwed than "whites". Some people just seem unable to understand there is such thing as middle class and above minorities. Did you go into a STEM field? If you had, as a woman you would've had much financial backing from myriad organizations, regardless if you came from the top 1%. If you can prove even a small fraction of native american heritage that also opens some doors.

[Tagora]

You don't have to be from a poor working class background. Plenty of middle class and even upper middle class and beyond minorities are eligible for financial aid, regardless of their parent's socioeconomic position. The zeitgeist of identity politics means that the most important primary factor for financial aid (socioeconomic position) is relegated to minor factor. Unless you have east asian origins, in which case you're even more screwed than "whites". Some people just seem unable to understand there is such thing as middle class and above minorities. Did you go into a STEM field? If you had, as a woman you would've had much financial backing from myriad organizations, regardless if you came from the top 1%.

My brother didn't get any financial aid and we have nearly identical academic records.  It was probably our background.  I also had some investments I was forced to declare that may have been enough to disqualify me ($30k w/ dividends on my tax returns).  To be honest, I don't really know why I wasn't offered any federal grants.

[Clockworkkiller]

So, you are trying to say that the US cant afford it? I assure you it CAN

Here, pick one that isnt the size of a timble if that will satisfy you

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Are you really pround of being lumped with the likes of Africa, Russia and the middle eastren shitholes when it comes to this issue?

All of those countries are smaller than the US. Canada and Australian are most wastelands

[Kalam]

There's so much wrong, but reducing a ridiculously complex clusterfuck to something akin to animal personality tests probably doesn't help much. Look at all these characters and factions to choose from, and what they stand for. Let's not look at a system that doesn't incentivize politicians to come up with efficient policy. Still, apparently I'd rather vote for Bernie Sanders than Ted Cruz. It's the tiny, tiny victories we have to fight for, I guess. Ugh.

The most interesting thing about this is that I got 22% with the people in my town. Not surprising, but entertaining nonetheless.

[Oberyn]

reducing a ridiculously complex clusterfuck to something akin to animal personality tests

Literally what democracy is, hi welcome, glad you could join us.

[Rando]

It demonstrates better than anything that just because you agree with someone's stance on key issues doesn't mean you'd ever vote for them, and just cos you disagree with someone that doesn't mean you *wouldn't* vote for them.

Because since when has agreeing on key issues had anything to do with the way people vote, what's more important is whether or not they're in the same political party that your parents voted for.

the REAL important issue when voting for MY president is: Would I have a beer with him?

[Molly]

Donald Trump best Trump!

He has such a high entertainment value. Even more than G.W. Bush had.

[Talanarsis]

Donald Trump best Trump!

He has such a high entertainment value. Even more than G.W. Bush had.

Yeah, at least Trump tells it how it is instead of dancing around issues. Even if he's not always right I like a man who's not afraid of what others think.