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Title: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 06, 2015, 10:02:11 pm

Facebook, Twitter and Youtube got a ban today. And another ban is on the way for Google within 4 hours.

I fucking love being Turkish :lol:

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Leshma on April 06, 2015, 10:04:58 pm

You can use yandex, vkontakte and vporn as alternatives.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 06, 2015, 10:07:21 pm

It is no trouble for just a slightly internet-savvy user. The insolence is what strikes me. These snackbar bastards do not stop even after crossing the line and going way beyond it.

Oh, also you guys probably haven't heard it but we had a nation-wide blackout a few days ago. Fucking nation-wide... And it took more than 12 hours or so for the electricity to come back. God knows whatever the fuck they were trying to cover in the meantime.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: LordBerenger on April 06, 2015, 10:29:10 pm

Better run before Sultan Erdogan officially allies with ISIS and makes it part of Turkey.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Christo on April 07, 2015, 01:08:06 am

Yeah, you terrorists, stop poking eachother on facebook, you might cause a kebabsplosion

allahu snackbar

Quote from: Daunt_Flockula on April 06, 2015, 10:07:21 pm

Oh, also you guys probably haven't heard it but we had a nation-wide blackout a few days ago.

I have, and also thought you guys will direct your anger about it here.

I saw no such threads unfortunately, and wasn't so sure if I should start one myself.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Clockworkkiller on April 07, 2015, 03:19:23 am

But atleast you have aloha snackbar watching over you :lol:

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 07, 2015, 11:38:34 am

Quote from: Christo on April 07, 2015, 01:08:06 am

Yeah, you terrorists, stop poking eachother on facebook, you might cause a kebabsplosion

allahu snackbar

I have, and also thought you guys will direct your anger about it here.

I saw no such threads unfortunately, and wasn't so sure if I should start one myself.

Yeah, it is downright sad that I can't do anything other than post on a gaming forum and whine.

Quote from: LordBerenger on April 06, 2015, 10:29:10 pm

Better run before Sultan Erdogan officially allies with ISIS and makes it part of Turkey.

I am still hoping that he will eventually have to be the one to run, run with heels beating his ass cheeks as he does so. If, just if that armor of power of his gets slightly cracked, he is done for good. There is enough material available to get him imprisoned for ages. A man can hope, right?

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Algarn on April 07, 2015, 12:04:58 pm

Quote from: Daunt_Flockula on April 07, 2015, 11:38:34 am

Yeah, it is downright sad that I can't do anything other than post on a gaming forum and whine.

I am still hoping that he will eventually have to be the one to run, run with heels beating his ass cheeks as he does so. If, just if that armor of power of his gets slightly cracked, he is done for good. There is enough material available to get him imprisoned for ages. A man can hope, right?

You should really come to a western european country. There's racism & economical problems of course, but it can't be worse than a state bashing the shit out of human rights, and isolating its inhabitants.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: the real god emperor on April 07, 2015, 01:23:01 pm

Quote from: Algarn on April 07, 2015, 12:04:58 pm

You should really come to a western european country. There's racism & economical problems of course, but it can't be worse than a state bashing the shit out of human rights, and isolating its inhabitants.

We are used to it dont worry

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Latvian on April 07, 2015, 01:40:39 pm

remind me why they do this again?

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Vovka on April 07, 2015, 01:44:10 pm

Quote from: Latvian on April 07, 2015, 01:40:39 pm

remind me why they do this again?

forced to remove a couple of photos of a dead Turk
deny access effective way, because freedom of speech brings a lot of money

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 07, 2015, 02:06:20 pm

Vovka wrote the dl;dr version. Here is the longer version for those who would like to learn more:

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A 14-year-old child was shot in the head with a gas shell by a police officer during the Gezi protests. The kid was not even a demonstrator. Was just on his way to the bakery to get morning bread. The kid died under extensive care a year later. And the murdering officer(s) never got brought to justice.

Two members of an illegal marginal left organization somehow managed to get into the heavily guarded justice courthouse where the prosecutor in charge was. They held him captive (surprisingly that happened during that national blackout). Told him to reveal the murderers' names on live broadcast. He apparently agreed and the request was communicated to the besieging police officers, who also seemed to agree. Then the police officers barge in. Kill the demonstrators and the prosecutor ends up dead too. Forensic reports say there was 10 bullets in his body. Apparently, the police played a big part in his murder.

Anyway, most of what happened had already been shown on tv. And the reason behind this ban was that they didn't want the event's pictures to be distributed online. Funny, isn't it.

Btw, this prosecutor was the 5th one allocated to the case and he was just on the verge of casting light on it. The two guys who held him hostage must have known and probably never intended to kill him. But their organization (not mentioning name for obvious reasons) has been known to be infiltrated probably by state intelligence officers. They had been making hella stupid scenes lately. An example: An al-Qeda member blows up two police officers in a suicide attack several months ago. This stupid left organization, which has nothing at all to do with it, takes the blame. Later, after shit has been clarified, they say sorry "that they thought it was their guys who did it".

Weird stupid shit, I know.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 07, 2015, 04:21:36 pm

I am a restless sleeper Heskey. You would have to order a king-size bed just for me.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Tibe on April 07, 2015, 06:36:08 pm

This is why you dont mix religion, hardcore traditionalism and politics.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 07, 2015, 11:08:29 pm

Quote from: HESKEYTIME on April 07, 2015, 06:20:25 pm

I'll sleep on the coach then :( damn immigrants

Damn right you will. The bed is just for starters. Wait till I start trying to turn your country into the hell I ran away from :lol:

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Oberyn on April 08, 2015, 02:01:18 am

Quote from: HESKEYTIME on April 07, 2015, 10:30:03 pm

But America still has Facebook :(

What's happened in Turkey is pretty much what would happen in the US if dominionist wackos were as prevalent as the mostly rural alluha snackbar retards which constitute a majority of the Turkish voting public. The urban secularists are a minority. It's an obvious difference but I feel it should be pointed out in the face of your usual moronic false equivalency.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Nightmare798 on April 08, 2015, 07:50:04 am

Sorry for your loss blokula

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Although I am laughing my fucking ass off as of this moment

Are they actually fucking serious? I mean I heard they banned minecraft too or some shit :D

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 08, 2015, 10:09:50 am

They are indeed serious. Banning a website used to take a long damn while. It would require a proposal, a supervisory committee discussion, a decision being made and approved. I mean it was difficult. After a recent legislative change, they can do it just like pressing buttons. All in an instant.

It is unbelievable. Before you can even find enough time to object to an atrocity, another one just pops up. We are like opium-stricken hobos. Only instead of a stimulant drug, we are being fed with atrocities.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Christo on April 08, 2015, 10:16:28 am

Orbán is actually thinking of your country as the prime example to move towards, so I might be seeing what will happen here in a good 5-10 years or so.

It has already started.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Algarn on April 08, 2015, 01:28:17 pm

Quote from: Nightmare798 on April 08, 2015, 07:50:04 am

Sorry for your loss blokula

(click to show/hide)

Although I am laughing my fucking ass off as of this moment

Are they actually fucking serious? I mean I heard they banned minecraft too or some shit :D

Minecraft got banned for extreme violence. I just rofled hard when I learnt that  :lol:

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 08, 2015, 03:07:10 pm

Quote from: Christo on April 08, 2015, 10:16:28 am

Orbán is actually thinking of your country as the prime example to move towards, so I might be seeing what will happen here in a good 5-10 years or so.

It has already started.

Hyenas are capable of communicating with each other over large distances, Christo.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Leshma on April 08, 2015, 04:28:41 pm

Erdogan is doing it backwards. Warband server connection with rest of the world should be first thing he shuts down.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Nightmare798 on April 08, 2015, 08:03:43 pm

Quote from: Algarn on April 08, 2015, 01:28:17 pm

Minecraft got banned for extreme violence. I just rofled hard when I learnt that  :lol:

PFTTTTT HAHAHAHAHAHA

Wait till they see prototype or dead rising 2 :D

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Oberyn on April 08, 2015, 08:25:43 pm

Quote from: HESKEYTIME on April 08, 2015, 07:33:55 am

So America doesnt mix religion, hardcore traditionalism and politics? That's the sole extent of the comment i was disagreeing with, if you want to get on your soapbox and rant about something else be my guest but it doesnt sound like my comment has anything to do with it since it was solely limited to the idea that mixing those 3 things doesnt always result in crazy internet blockage.

By all means though, keep trying to explain how my comment is somehow in contradiction to your deeply held intellectual beliefs. Or you could just rage about it, that seems more you.

You're equivocating the political situation with islamist extremism in Turkey and Erdogan's blatant dictator behaviour to right-wing politics in the US. Because you're a stupid fuck, your first go-to pavlovian response to someone criticizing these issues is to immediately bring up the Great Satan, the source of all the world's ills. It's ok, it's not your fault. It's obviously too much to expect you to realize how completely ridiculous even bringing up the comparison is, because you're living in fucking lala land when it comes to geopolitics. But sure Heskey, the political situation in the US is totally similar. Yup, just the exact same ammounts of religion and hardcore traditionalism. Latest culture war issue in the US?  A bakery refused to cater a hypothetical gay wedding. Latest culture war issue in Turkey? The elected and in power government attempting a go-back to Ottoman theocracy for years now. Hmmm. Just as important, totally.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Oberyn on April 09, 2015, 07:56:44 am

Why does hearing about mixing religion and hardcore traditionalism in politics immediately bring to mind the USA for you? There's dozens of countries where it is obviously much more of an issue. Every single muslim majority country, for example. It's the norm the world over, not the exception.
You think this doesn't happens every time a "foreign" country's extremely conservative culture gets criticized? Always some stupid fucking bundle of sticks going "Butbut teh USA! They're like, totally filled with retarded religious right-wingers urh-durh!". It's completely predictable and transparent. Again, you can't help it, it's just been forced into you by repetition, like a dog being taught to salivate at the sound of a bell. As for the insults, stop being a fucking ignorant cunt and I'll stop calling you one. I don't care about convincing you of anything though, given what I've seen on the forums from you you're obviously a lost cause.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Oberyn on April 09, 2015, 10:44:10 am

I am talking about Islam? I am talking about religious conservatism and traditionalism in politics. I brought up muslim majority countries as an example, since we are talking about Turkey, but it applies just as easily to most of the entire planet, as I also pointed out. Your first reaction to someone pointing out the blatant effects of this combination in Turkey was to make a fucking non-sequitur about the US. What was the point? There was none, it was just a conditioned reflex. I feel perfectly fine calling you an ignorant cunt if the first thing these factors bring up to your mind is the US. Quite clearly you "aren't personally familiar" with reality or any country that isn't occidental. It's nice that you can admit it springs entirely from ignorance at least.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Oberyn on April 09, 2015, 12:28:08 pm

What's there left to say? We completely agree. You brought up the US because you are ignorant of the rest of the world, so ignorant in fact that the first country that came to mind when thinking about hardcore religious traditionalism in politics is the US.  You probably thought it was just a cute tongue-in-cheek comment, but it was pretty revealing. And I can't really take your assertions of moral superiority,  "calm" arguements and abstaining from insults given what you've called me on this forum before.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Casimir on April 09, 2015, 01:47:16 pm

this is golden

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Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Casimir on April 12, 2015, 12:40:25 am

This is some next level shit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32266195

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: the real god emperor on April 12, 2015, 10:32:31 am

Quote from: Casimir on April 12, 2015, 12:40:25 am

This is some next level shit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32266195

If you inform an AKP supporter with this , he/she will tell you the advert was offensive , if you inform them with a rape&murder they will claim that the girl was a whore, if you inform them with a malpractice , they will tell you that government deserves the money. That goes on and on . And all we can do is to riot in streets because oh wait, police is in the command of the government too. All the high military officers are in jail or recently got out unemployed , everyone who speaks radically on newspapers or on TV , gets unemployed the next day.
+Kratos are you talking about China,North Korea or Arabia?
-No, a fucked country called Turkey, just turn right from Europe.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 12, 2015, 11:31:49 am

I know you guys are tired of reading my walls of text, but that ban has a little story behind it too.

During the latest local elections, there were numerous blackouts just during the vote counting phase. Needless to say lots of targeted modifications took place in the vote counts and most of that is still unpunished. Well, the minister of energy of the time was asked why the hell the electricity would go down at such a critical time. His ridiculous answer would be: "Probably a stray cat or something got into the transformer stations and caused a blackout."

Cats fucking with the electricity network... In a number of provinces... During vote counts of all times... Legit, right?

In that electoral advertisement of the opposition party, you catch a moment of a cat walking by a transformer station and a grafitti on the station reads "We, the nation, applaud you." This is why the state's broadcasting channel, which is literally the government's toy, refused to air that advertisement.

Story told. Flying away in 3, 2, 1...

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: ecorcheur_brokar on April 13, 2015, 01:08:59 pm

I wonder, do you think people voting for tardogan are:
-not caring about anything just voting for the party representing tradition?
-ignorant of those problems?
-thinking those stories are lies?
-knowing of those problems but thinking they are of no importance compared to the great achievement great Erdogan made?
-He did what his voters wanted?

Situation in Turkey reminds me more of Italy when Berlusconi was in power. The way a leader can destroy a democracy and the people do not care and keep voting for him.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Leshma on April 13, 2015, 02:12:04 pm

poor intellegence

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 13, 2015, 02:35:13 pm

Quote from: ecorcheur_brokar on April 13, 2015, 01:08:59 pm

I wonder, do you think people voting for tardogan are:
-not caring about anything just voting for the party representing tradition?
-ignorant of those problems?
-thinking those stories are lies?
-knowing of those problems but thinking they are of no importance compared to the great achievement great Erdogan made?
-He did what his voters wanted?

Situation in Turkey reminds me more of Italy when Berlusconi was in power. The way a leader can destroy a democracy and the people do not care and keep voting for him.

All valid points. Tardogan's voters are duly called "sheep" here in Turkey. They simply love to be herded by a shepherd. Tardogan and his politicians, having heard the analogy so many times, even blurted it out during his/their public speeches and called it a "sheep and shepherd" relation. Did the audience get mad? No. They loved it. After all, they are truly sheep.

What happens is, Tardogan simply makes up a lie off the top of his head during a speech/public appearance and the sheep immediately buy it. Examples would be: I founded university X (truth: university x had been founded 2 decades before he even existed); going to the mosque and reading the Qoran were prohibited after the Republic was founded (truth: no such fucking thing ever happened or was planned); we officially stopped all relations with Israel as a protest against their terror in Palestine (truth: Tardogan has been the most successful head of state in terms of expanding trade and military relations with Israel so far) etc. Just ask me if you want more ridiculous examples. There are plenty.

Also, Tardogan is categorized as what we call "the coffee shop leader". That head of the card playing table you spot in every typical local coffee house in Turkey. These people are best known for talking a shitton of words without meaning. What they lack in genuine intelligence, they compensate with shittalk. Basically a kind of person very similar to an internet troll who loves to win an argument (and often does) by constantly averting the discussion. An intelligent man with manners and actually meaningful words stands no chance against the coffee shop leader. The retards around him will always give him the applause, because he can shit on any valid argument with a loud mouth. And sheep love loud-mouthed retards, who reflect their own identity and lack of intelligence. Who would like to follow an intelligent man that is superior to the general crowd on an entirely different level? Well, seems like not many people in Turkey.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on April 13, 2015, 05:38:27 pm

Quote from: Daunt_Flockula on April 06, 2015, 10:07:21 pm

Oh, also you guys probably haven't heard it but we had a nation-wide blackout a few days ago. Fucking nation-wide... And it took more than 12 hours or so for the electricity to come back. God knows whatever the fuck they were trying to cover in the meantime.

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Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 13, 2015, 05:40:01 pm

Well, shouldn't have hyphenated that, if that is what you mean.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on April 13, 2015, 05:42:40 pm

Quote from: Daunt_Flockula on April 13, 2015, 05:40:01 pm

Well, shouldn't have hyphenated that, if that is what you mean.

No, just a sarcastic "great job, department of energy!"

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 13, 2015, 05:46:27 pm

:D

Ok. My spelling insecurities aren't letting me go.

That aside, yeah, great job indeed. I believe the status is "to be continued..." right now. Greater jobs might still be ahead.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Kirman on April 13, 2015, 08:52:32 pm

The sad part is i get use to all the shitty things so i can't react to anything. Nation wide blackout! Fuck it,we are in Turkey. Banned minecraft! Who cares, it's Turkey. Turkish TV bans opoosition advert! Meh, not interesting at all.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Christo on April 13, 2015, 08:56:36 pm

Banning Minecraft is not that bad tbh.

Fighting back autism one step at a time

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: AwesomeHail on April 13, 2015, 09:29:39 pm

i sure am scared for the Mount and Blade Servers and developement

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Christo on April 13, 2015, 09:37:18 pm

Quote from: skeletzo on April 13, 2015, 09:29:39 pm

i sure am scared for the Mount and Blade Servers and developement

duh, just make armagam say to AKP that this is about 'historical past and turkish pioneering of online entertainment where people can learn about this period', blah blah blah

It will pass.

Alternatively, they can jump HQ to Cyprus, no problems with taxes, and regulations or stupid governments  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on April 14, 2015, 01:19:49 am

Quote from: Xside on April 13, 2015, 08:52:32 pm

Banned minecraft! Who cares, it's Turkey 2015.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 14, 2015, 10:53:47 pm

Quote from: Christo on April 13, 2015, 09:37:18 pm

duh, just make armagam say to AKP that this is about 'historical past and turkish pioneering of online entertainment where people can learn about this period', blah blah blah

It will pass.

Alternatively, they can jump HQ to Cyprus, no problems with taxes, and regulations or stupid governments  :mrgreen:

When it comes to national revenue generators, they usually drive away professionals whose businesses his fellow hyenas can seize and sustain. Armagan is doing something none of is buttlickers is capable of doing. So, unless things change drastically overnight, I mean as long as truly intelligent and productive people don't pop up around them all of a sudden, they won't be barking at him and his work. That I can guarantee.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Ikarus on April 14, 2015, 11:40:35 pm

Ugh, I didn´t expect Edro to go that much into the retard direction  :|

By the way: back in 2010 some people used to call him "Brave", why that?

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Christo on April 15, 2015, 03:13:00 am

Because in 2010 a Kurdish person threw shoes at him in Sevilla, yelling 'long live kurdistan', but he missed.
quite sure his sheep thought his aura of awesomeness deflected the shoes, I have seen plenty of Orbanist idiots of the same caliber

When he returned home he was greeted as a brave hero, and I also remember some anti-israeli sentiment of his going on for which he was praised among his followers.

(ofc it has to be more than that, but I remember this whole 'he is so brave omg lul' bullshit because of that incident)

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: lombardsoup on April 15, 2015, 03:38:24 am

Quote from: Christo on April 15, 2015, 03:13:00 am

Because in 2010 a Kurdish person threw shoes at him in Sevilla, yelling 'long live kurdistan', but he missed.
quite sure his sheep thought his aura of awesomeness deflected the shoes, I have seen plenty of Orbanist idiots of the same caliber

When he returned home he was greeted as a brave hero, and I also remember some anti-israeli sentiment of his going on for which he was praised among his followers.

(ofc it has to be more than that, but I remember this whole 'he is so brave omg lul' bullshit because of that incident)

Shoe Dodger the Brave, truly the second coming of Mehmed II

Reminds me of a certain floppy eared moron who was adept at dodging thrown shoes

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 15, 2015, 11:48:27 am

I don't remember him being called that. But 2010 was the year when he presented a large package of legislative changes to a referandum with the promise that he would bring to justice the generals behind the military coup of 1980. He managed to attract "yes" votes from all segments of society with that subtle promise and ended up not doing such justice. What happened was that the legislative changes allowed him to kill separation of powers and overtake jurisdiction.

But his voters are known to call him all kinds of things. Some even consider him a new prophet, which is total blasphemy by Islamic codes. You get the idea though. Brave isn't even such a big word.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Nightmare798 on April 20, 2015, 06:34:13 am

Quote from: Daunt_Flockula on April 15, 2015, 11:48:27 am

I don't remember him being called that. But 2010 was the year when he presented a large package of legislative changes to a referandum with the promise that he would bring to justice the generals behind the military coup of 1980. He managed to attract "yes" votes from all segments of society with that subtle promise and ended up not doing such justice. What happened was that the legislative changes allowed him to kill separation of powers and overtake jurisdiction.

But his voters are known to call him all kinds of things. Some even consider him a new prophet, which is total blasphemy by Islamic codes. You get the idea though. Brave isn't even such a big word.

Blokula, since any politician ever actually stood up and fulfilled their promises? That is what politics are about. Lie and bullshit people long enough to accumulate enough cash to fuck off to the beaches of florida, snorting cocaine off a hooker´s ass on a golden plated yacht. This is the very reason why I dont vote in elections anymore. I does not matter anymore, because they are all the same assholes, only with different names, and flying different colors. They are the people who will try to tunnel the state budget as soon as they are able to.

Title: Re: Another jolly internet story from Turkey
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 21, 2015, 02:26:37 pm

It is a basic quality of a politician. What I can't get over is how people will still comfortably take words for security when they have been bent over and fucked thousands of times already. Once they hear pleasant words, they are ready to forget about every little shit they had to take and give it another wicked chance. Just like a mindless teenager girl who has already been knocked up 3 times but still believes this dodgy redneck is nevertheless going to offer her a mighty fine future.