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Title: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Falka on February 13, 2015, 05:30:07 pm
They're poor because they're stupid.

Quote
A majority of Europeans (53.3%) does not use a
computer. This is especially the case in Greece
(75.3%) and Portugal (74.7%).

the proportion of Internet usage is the lowest in Portugal
and Greece (14.8% and 15.1% respectively).

54.3% of Greece citizens state not to have read any
book in the last 12 months.

about 20% of Europeans
do not read magazines. It is again in Greece
(46.3%) and in Portugal (36.7%) that we find
a higher proportion of people who do not
read magazines.

Almost one European in two (46%) reads the
newspaper 5 to 7 times a week. The lowest rates are to be found in
Greece, Spain and Portugal (20.3%, 24.8%
and 25.1% respectively). It is also in these
three countries that the proportion of people
saying they never read a newspaper is higher
than in the other countries (30.5%, 23.4%
and 25.5% respectively).

http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_158_en.pdf
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Panos_ on February 13, 2015, 05:38:30 pm
When Greeks had culture, the polaks were eating their shit while hunging upon trees, brah.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Panos_ on February 13, 2015, 05:39:12 pm
Nah, I`m joking.

We are poor because we are tax evading cunts  :(
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: AntiBlitz on February 13, 2015, 05:47:17 pm
They're poor because they're stupid.

http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_158_en.pdf

seems a bit counter-intuitive dont you think? 

how the fuck does it make them stupid if they cant afford the newspaper and computer that would give them this "intelligence", therefore making them stupid for not spending the money on something they cant afford.  Id rather have food on the table then read about the 1st world plights of Bruce Jenner, or how to craft a valentines gift out of shoe string and pocket lint.

Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 13, 2015, 05:47:44 pm
Not knowing actual causes, but,

I thought Greeks didn't work past 55 and shit like that.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Panos_ on February 13, 2015, 05:51:40 pm
Not knowing actual causes, but,

I thought Greeks didn't work past 55 and shit like that.

biggest lie ever, the only ones who get an early retiremen here in Greece, are the ones who serve on the military and ONLY the ones who are at the special forces.

Other than that the retirement ages are 67 for men and 65 for women.


Besides, various researches have shown that Greeks are the most working people of the EU.

Editing to make more clear my above sentence :

 In the private sector the majority of Greeks work very hard and often very long hours and for little pay, of course there are those that will sling the lead if they can just as in any society, but they are the minority; however, in the public people seem to work less hard, for fewer hours and for much more money.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: DonNicko on February 13, 2015, 06:00:29 pm
Greece will be a great country again!!!
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Vibe on February 13, 2015, 06:01:06 pm
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Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Vovka on February 13, 2015, 06:06:37 pm
Greece will be a great country again!!!
under Russian wise rule xnxnxnxnxnxn
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Panos_ on February 13, 2015, 06:12:19 pm
under Russian wise rule xnxnxnxnxnxn

AMEN.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on February 13, 2015, 06:20:29 pm
AMEN.

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Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Panos_ on February 13, 2015, 06:29:31 pm
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Bow down to me, sheep shagger  :lol:
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: lombardsoup on February 13, 2015, 06:45:02 pm
Would be easier to simply not take out loans you can't pay back

Greece did it anyway
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Araxiel on February 13, 2015, 07:07:17 pm
Be a part of Turkey. Atleast we have kinda similar culture. Greeks are Turk.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 13, 2015, 07:12:03 pm
In the private sector the majority of Greeks work very hard and often very long hours and for little pay, of course there are those that will sling the lead if they can just as in any society, but they are the minority; however, in the public people seem to work less hard, for fewer hours and for much more money.

AH, So that is where my statement came from. The Government workers overpaid and under worked. Sounds typical of most Western Countries. Government jobs are cushy, easy and worth lots of benefits.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Leshma on February 13, 2015, 07:35:03 pm
Not knowing actual causes, but,

I thought Greeks didn't work past 55 and shit like that.

Common misconception is that people in poor countries go into retirement sooner than others. Actually it is completely the opposite as Panos said. For example, in Europe country where people spend the least time working is Austria. But they do quality work during that time and don't have high rate of corruption.

In communist Yugoslavia, my mother and her colleagues used to work 26 hours a day (18 hours overtime) before my father was hired as manager and stopped that bullshit. It was a way to get higher salary through overtime bonuses and most people abused it. Corruption killed Yugoslavia and Greece, not general laziness.

Edit: Another example. I know Croats who work in Austrian banks in Croatia and quite often travel to Austria for seminars and stuff like that. They have figured a way how to avoid paying bus tickets in Vienna and every single one of them is abusing it. Austrians aren't dumb so they can't figure it on their own. It is the mentality thing, nothing else. They know their country is going to become shit if they abuse, so they refrain from doing it. Unlike us, Slavs.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Leshma on February 13, 2015, 07:40:23 pm
Would be easier to simply not take out loans you can't pay back

Greece did it anyway

lol at americans talking about loans they can't pay back :lol:
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Falka on February 13, 2015, 07:46:00 pm
Edit: Another example. I know Croats who work in Austrian banks in Croatia and quite often travel to Austria for seminars and stuff like that. They have figured a way how to avoid paying bus tickets in Vienna and every single one of them is abusing it. Austrians aren't dumb so they can't figure it on their own. It is the mentality thing, nothing else. They know their country is going to become shit if they abuse, so they refrain from doing it. Unlike us, Slavs.

So true.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Leshma on February 13, 2015, 07:46:58 pm
AH, So that is where my statement came from. The Government workers overpaid and under worked. Sounds typical of most Western Countries. Government jobs are cushy, easy and worth lots of benefits.

Government workers have solid paid jobs, problem is that private sector isn't functioning well due to two reasons. First is that government kills private sector with taxes and inefficient laws that cripple the actual economy. Second reason is capitalism, every single private owner in my country believes it is his god given right to become rich in no time, therefore he avoids paying taxes (hates government because they won't allow him to become rich as fast he would like) and pays minimal wages for his workers and many of them create black market.

Government jobs are cushy and easy but that is because bureaucracy is inefficient as fuck. Even if you wanted, you can't change a god damn thing and often people who work from government are picked based on membership in political parties, not by actual skills. I can organize local city government better in under a week, and I'm not particularly skilled or smart guy. There is simply no desire to make things better and that stems both from the top and the bottom but those at the top, being way more responsible are main reason why government is so inefficient.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 13, 2015, 07:49:01 pm
lol at americans talking about loans they can't pay back :lol:

Heh, if you think about it, America can just "print" 17 trillion dollars and say "DONE PAID" for all our debts...only if we want 600% inflation though, ugh.

Oh and 7->14 trillion in debt in 8 years is so, so bad. Americans are so dumb.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Leshma on February 13, 2015, 07:52:38 pm
Didn't say you are dumb. You are aware of the fact that you can do whatever the fuck you want as long you're major military superpower.

What it is silly laughing at other for taking loans they can't pay back when your banks were giving a massive loan to every hobo with a wooden shack, probably hoping that will raise the spending and create more jobs which after some time will create enough value to nullify debt. But it didn't. And because of you and your government every single country on this planet had to suffer.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 13, 2015, 08:43:44 pm
Didn't say you are dumb. You are aware of the fact that you can do whatever the fuck you want as long you're major military superpower.

What it is silly laughing at other for taking loans they can't pay back when your banks were giving a massive loan to every hobo with a wooden shack, probably hoping that will raise the spending and create more jobs which after some time will create enough value to nullify debt. But it didn't. And because of you and your government every single country on this planet had to suffer.

Ah, blame the government for passing laws(at the behest of liberals and certain banks) that clearly allowed people who should never be given loans the option to have loans cause "IT"S DISCRIMINATORY" BS.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: lombardsoup on February 13, 2015, 09:04:27 pm
Ah, blame the government for passing laws(at the behest of liberals and certain banks) that clearly allowed people who should never be given loans the option to have loans cause "IT"S DISCRIMINATORY" BS.

Nope, its my fault.  I personally strong-armed Greece into taking all of those bailouts

Death to USA

tl;dr Why Greeks are poor: Greeks
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Wiltzu on February 13, 2015, 10:05:57 pm
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Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Patoson on February 13, 2015, 10:39:35 pm
They're poor because they're stupid.

http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_158_en.pdf

I agree. The less people are learned, the easier they are manipulated. Governments pillage public money while they cut civil rights and give money/favours to lobbies, and then they lie and blame others in front of the cameras and through media bought by them, and stupid people believe them.

Education is the base of democracy, and the separation of powers, which is hard to see but is how it should be.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: lombardsoup on February 13, 2015, 10:58:05 pm
I agree. The less people are learned, the easier they are manipulated. Governments pillage public money while they cut civil rights and give money/favours to lobbies, and then they lie and blame others in front of the cameras and through media bought by them, and stupid people believe them.

Education is the base of democracy, and the separation of powers, which is hard to see but is how it should be.

Its easier for the Greeks to pin the blame for their problems on other countries.  As long as they keep taking that route, the situation won't change.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Swaggart on February 13, 2015, 11:18:09 pm
Anders you are clueless as usual.

Public sector jobs pay well and have good bonuses. Well yes, they have to in order to attract talent. Unless of course you want people who are unqualified to work in government jobs that don't pay well or have good bonuses, they you will end up with government positions filled by unmotivated idiots.

As to the whole deregulation of the financial sector nonsense you posted, deregulation started under Reagan the paragon of the American right wing. Granted, Clinton signed the repeal of Glasse-Steagall which basically let the banks run free, but to claim this was because liberals were complaining because people couldn't get mortgages is about the most ridiculous and asinine thing you've said, and you've said tons of stupid and asinine things. How you can oversimplify such a complex crisis into "it was the liberals fault" is just astounding.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Xant on February 13, 2015, 11:31:14 pm
Anders you are clueless as usual.
#shocked
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 14, 2015, 05:21:35 pm
As to the whole deregulation of the financial sector nonsense you posted, deregulation started under Reagan the paragon of the American right wing. Granted, Clinton signed the repeal of Glasse-Steagall which basically let the banks run free, but to claim this was because liberals were complaining because people couldn't get mortgages is about the most ridiculous and asinine thing you've said, and you've said tons of stupid and asinine things. How you can oversimplify such a complex crisis into "it was the liberals fault" is just astounding.

Actually, that wasn't the bill I was referring to. Please fact check the bills. It was 2 bills:
The Housing and Community Development Act of 1992
The Community Reinvestment Act

And this initiative started under Clintion:
The National Homeownership Strategy: Partners in the American Dream

I'm sorry if you think I'm in the wrong, but I work in that Industry and I can tell you that people created a housing bubble based on toxic assets (though not the root cause, but a symptomof our 90's attitude of over abundance).

In fact, Locally, we are almost back to 2008 housing bubble levels again, which makes me very afraid(but is good for my money and business).

And the bill that you are referencing was repealed in 1999 (with a Republican Majority then.), but the initial developments started in 1995 under a democrat majority.

Public sector jobs pay well and have good bonuses. Well yes, they have to in order to attract talent. Unless of course you want people who are unqualified to work in government jobs that don't pay well or have good bonuses, they you will end up with government positions filled by unmotivated idiots.

Also, to this. Are you seriously telling me government workers get good pay(and should?) compared to a non-government worker. Wow. Are you fucking stupid?

That isn't how government gets high pay, or even why they would. You want to know why:
Unions > Give political power > keeps politicians in power.

Course, anything I say on Unions should be taking as a grain, cause I'm a heavy Anti-Unionist and despise Unions.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Swaggart on February 14, 2015, 06:35:39 pm
Anders if you seriously think banks were forced to give out sub prime mortgages because of fears they would be called out for discrimination as opposed to their own greed I'm not going to even bother trying to talk you out of it. i would say that you're trolling but you're not which is the depressing part.

And like I said, but perhaps you can't read well so I'll repeat: government jobs must be well paying with benefits to attract talent. Yes, they have strong unions but so did every industry before they were successively gutted by right wing administrations.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Clockworkkiller on February 14, 2015, 06:44:35 pm
Dee poor cuz de spend all dee monies on yogurt and gyros
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Molly on February 14, 2015, 08:03:36 pm
See? Schäuble offered German tax officers to train the Greek ones but they refused.
If we know something it's how to build tanks and how to get taxes from the people.

Instead the make a caricature depicting Schäuble as a Nazi saying stuff like "I gonna make soap out of those Greeks." :(
So mean...
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: the real god emperor on February 14, 2015, 08:45:32 pm
I think Greece should leave Eu and we shall start a union together and play Buck Buck 24/7

Then you can have our Baklava
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Vovka on February 15, 2015, 01:11:50 am
See? Schäuble offered German tax officers to train the Greek ones but they refused.
If we know something it's how to build tanks and how to get taxes from the people.

Instead the make a caricature depicting Schäuble as a Nazi saying stuff like "I gonna make soap out of those Greeks." :(
So mean...
all you know is how to capitulate  :lol:
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Mala on February 15, 2015, 01:28:46 am
does not matter, to lose makes us stronger in the end.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Hirlok on February 15, 2015, 02:15:35 am
Greeks are not "poor". People might start to have a closer look at how the financial system actually works and what kind of game is played there...
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Turkhammer on February 15, 2015, 02:43:29 am
Didn't say you are dumb. You are aware of the fact that you can do whatever the fuck you want as long you're major military superpower.

What it is silly laughing at other for taking loans they can't pay back when your banks were giving a massive loan to every hobo with a wooden shack, probably hoping that will raise the spending and create more jobs which after some time will create enough value to nullify debt. But it didn't. And because of you and your government every single country on this planet had to suffer.

Bullshit Leshma.  Europe created it's own crisis.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Molly on February 15, 2015, 09:28:35 am
Greeks are not "poor". People might start to have a closer look at how the financial system actually works and what kind of game is played there...
Which you ofc already did years ago, so you went into some crappy jungle hut, nurturing some useless pets back to health... :lol:
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Falka on February 15, 2015, 10:01:42 am
Which you ofc already did years ago, so you went into some crappy jungle hut, nurturing some useless pets back to health... :lol:

Not... funny?
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Christo on February 15, 2015, 10:08:46 am
They should stick to engineering more precise mechanics

humor is not one of them  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Umbra on February 15, 2015, 10:10:01 am
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Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Tibe on February 15, 2015, 11:20:37 am
And like I said, but perhaps you can't read well so I'll repeat: government jobs must be well paying with benefits to attract talent. Yes, they have strong unions but so did every industry before they were successively gutted by right wing administrations.

I call bullshit. If practice has shown anything at all, its that giving large wages to people in government will definately not attract talent, just incompentent greedy assholes who at the same time are very compentent liars, easly capable of hiding their incompentence. Despite everyone reading this and rolling their eyes claiming that politics is mainly lying, I think you are really fully aware that it is much more than lying. If you are only good in lying then thats just not enough. The only place it does attract actual talent is police and other services, but definately not in pencilpushing officejobs and politics.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Hirlok on February 15, 2015, 02:10:36 pm
Which you ofc already did years ago, so you went into some crappy jungle hut, nurturing some useless pets back to health... :lol:
Not... funny?

I find ad hominem arguments actually quite funny, esp.when they come from a specific type of person.
Plus: he got it absolutely right. Understanding how "our" system works makes you want to turn your back on it - at least for a while. So I did and did things that were more important to me.

Until your sense of humor has evolved so far that you get back into this absurd sandbox and play a bit more - even the cold and dumb drones of the brave new world can not touch your joy then.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Falka on February 15, 2015, 03:45:12 pm
Which you ofc already did years ago, so you went into some crappy jungle hut, nurturing some useless pets back to health... :lol:

Plus: he got it absolutely right. Understanding how "our" system works makes you want to turn your back on it - at least for a while. So I did and did things that were more important to me.

ANd that's great I think, nothing funny here according to me. "Nurturing some useless pets back to health" or in general being a good guy who cares is sth worth admiration, not laugh in my books, even though I would never do the same cause I'm too lazy and too indifferent.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Swaggart on February 15, 2015, 04:07:51 pm
I call bullshit. If practice has shown anything at all, its that giving large wages to people in government will definately not attract talent, just incompentent greedy assholes who at the same time are very compentent liars, easly capable of hiding their incompentence. Despite everyone reading this and rolling their eyes claiming that politics is mainly lying, I think you are really fully aware that it is much more than lying. If you are only good in lying then thats just not enough. The only place it does attract actual talent is police and other services, but definately not in pencilpushing officejobs and politics.

I can't speak for any other countries than those who have limited corruption in public positions. If that's the case where you're from you'll find the same attitude in the private sector as well as one adapts to the other.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Swaggart on February 15, 2015, 04:13:11 pm
Which you ofc already did years ago, so you went into some crappy jungle hut, nurturing some useless pets back to health... :lol:

And Germans wonder why they're so disliked in Europe.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Kafein on February 15, 2015, 04:17:19 pm
And Germans wonder why they're so disliked in Europe.

I have my own opinion, thanks.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Molly on February 15, 2015, 04:18:10 pm
Yea, instead of doing something actual noteworthy, hiding in some backwater dump and feeding oh-so-cute cats is certainly something to admire.
Hypocrites... hypocrites everywhere...  :lol:
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Tibe on February 15, 2015, 04:48:30 pm
I can't speak for any other countries than those who have limited corruption in public positions. If that's the case where you're from you'll find the same attitude in the private sector as well as one adapts to the other.
My place has hardly any corruption(pretty confident that its not related to the case of "cause it hides itself so well") and the pay is shit, yet completely talented people try to get in there in lines.

Private may adapt with state and vice versa, but never count them as same. People go in private sector completely different reasons than those who go to state. If a talented person sticks to his position only because of his/her wage, than that is a pretty massive red flag. In my place quite often the people found being corrupt and dicking around with public money are generally people who most definately dont need it. And its just not here, its everywhere. Wage influences very little of how compentent the suit wearing politician is, especially considering that most politicians are uni degree owners and majority of them(or their families) do own several buisnesses. If you really look it up, im pretty sure you notice that not many politicans even in your place earn money exclusively from their wage.

Its basically a lottery tbh. In police, firedepartments and ambulance however, wage influences a shitton. Underpaying can lead to catastrophic results.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Swaggart on February 15, 2015, 05:09:22 pm
Yea, instead of doing something actual noteworthy, hiding in some backwater dump and feeding oh-so-cute cats is certainly something to admire.
Hypocrites... hypocrites everywhere...  :lol:

To you it's not noteworthy but to some and I'll wager to the majority of people you ask it is.

But I don't expect much more from a person that engaged in victim blaming after the Charlie Hebdo attacks.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Xant on February 15, 2015, 05:14:52 pm
Yea, instead of doing something actual noteworthy, hiding in some backwater dump and feeding oh-so-cute cats is certainly something to admire.
Hypocrites... hypocrites everywhere...  :lol:
What's noteworthy, then?
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Swaggart on February 15, 2015, 05:18:01 pm
My place has hardly any corruption(pretty confident that its not related to the case of "cause it hides itself so well") and the pay is shit, yet completely talented people try to get in there in lines.

Private may adapt with state and vice versa, but never count them as same. People go in private sector completely different reasons than those who go to state. If a talented person sticks to his position only because of his/her wage, than that is a pretty massive red flag. In my place quite often the people found being corrupt and dicking around with public money are generally people who most definately dont need it. And its just not here, its everywhere. Wage influences very little of how compentent the suit wearing politician is, especially considering that most politicians are uni degree owners and majority of them(or their families) do own several buisnesses. If you really look it up, im pretty sure you notice that not many politicans even in your place earn money exclusively from their wage.

Its basically a lottery tbh. In police, firedepartments and ambulance however, wage influences a shitton. Underpaying can lead to catastrophic results.

Speaking for Canada government jobs are covered but there is an understanding that if one spends a lot of time in a public sector job their experience will not translate into a private sector job. I just helped hire a new buyer for our company and one of the candidates that sent a resume had extensive experience working for the provincial government. I'm not entirely sure why he help but he didn't even make it past the telephone interview because how the public sector operates is completely different. It would take far too long to explain in detail why this is so but needless to say government jobs in Canada tend to be your only job for a reason.

Out of curiosity, where are you from?
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Sharpe on February 15, 2015, 05:33:37 pm
What's noteworthy, then?

Neglect the cats, carry on with your life.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Tibe on February 15, 2015, 05:37:15 pm
Is it so hard to click on my profile?  :lol:
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Swaggart on February 15, 2015, 06:16:09 pm
I really need to stop posting with my phone. The autocorrect really fucks things up.

You could easily explain why people flock to government jobs in the grand Estonian Empire is because you're not too separated from Soviet governance. Like it or not parental influence shapes you and where you will look for work. My parents also told me to look for government work and while it does seem really good on paper, the potential in the private sector is just far greater. In any event, you want talented people to work in government jobs. This is just plain common sense. I would despise dealing with idiots when I'm dealing with government officials (by this I mean members of the board of trade and Export Development Canada, not front line customer service).
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Tibe on February 15, 2015, 06:46:30 pm
You COULD easly explain it like that....if you were a foreigner who wasnt aware of the actual situation at all. :D In ex-Soviet lands its pretty easy to stamp Soviet governance on a lot of things, despite them being the exact opposites.

Government work isnt praised here at all. Infact everyone knows its shit. The people really are dumb and the pay is really rubbish and people in private firms are more lose and generally have a less strickt workenvironment. I mainly blame unemployment. But tbh I do owe you an awnser. I dont know why people do flock to have them. Im assuming its related to the fact that its easier to get promoted here, as much as ive seen. But thats just about it.

The soviet thing doesnt influence us at all. We are fiercly pissed off at everything even remotely Soviet, to the extent that its almost fanatically idiotic. A very fun fact. Steven Seagal was supposed to perform here in a concert, but since his pro-Putin, it got shitton of criticism. Im talking about a shitton. Basically the common claim was that if we let Seagal play his stupid banjo on our soil, we are selling out to the russians and might aswell burn our flags right now and start learning russian. I mean, sweet jesus, wtf.... And it wasnt some random hobos who claimed that crap, it was prominent rather (questionably) intelligent people.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Molly on February 15, 2015, 08:08:38 pm
To you it's not noteworthy but to some and I'll wager to the majority of people you ask it is.

But I don't expect much more from a person that engaged in victim blaming after the Charlie Hebdo attacks.
Please quote me on "victim blaming after the Charlie Hebdo attacks." I am honestly curios where you think you read something even close to that coming from me. :lol:
But please, you can just continue posting false accusations about me. It's entertaining to some degree. Especially where you assume me as the general German public opinion or something... but I am sure you have been to Germany at least once in your life for more than a few days and talk out of experience. :wink:
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Swaggart on February 16, 2015, 12:06:26 am
Now that Leshma mentions it. Goscinny and Uderzo made the Asterix and Obelix comics and had quite a bunch of stuff in Egypt running. Cleopatra and whatnot.

Were they ever attacked for their work? Did they ever make fun of Muslims and the Islam?

If that wasn't victim blaming you couldn't have made it appear more like it than you did here.

Also, the point about Germans being disliked is so that I can do engage in retarded talk. Thought it was becoming the "thing" in the thread.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Kafein on February 16, 2015, 12:29:55 am
Molly is such a great ninja you can't even see her victim blaming.

About government jobs, there's one more or less universal rule about them: results don't matter. Your superiors don't depend on you getting anything done, so won't be fired even if you do minimal amount of work. Of course, it's not like that everywhere and not in every department. It's especially true in the administration, less so when the activities are more practical. I'm not really judging administrative staff (no, I totally am), it's the nature of the job itself that makes it hard to motivate. Big private administrations have similar problems, but as the company's results are more important than giving jobs to political friends, the efficiency is far better.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Molly on February 16, 2015, 12:36:08 am
Yea, it is known that my views on such matters is nearly the same as Oberyn's.
Brothers in thought basically...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Christo on February 16, 2015, 03:33:00 am
Yea, instead of doing something actual noteworthy, hiding in some backwater dump and feeding oh-so-cute cats is certainly something to admire.
Hypocrites... hypocrites everywhere...  :lol:

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Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Beauchamp on February 16, 2015, 11:21:24 am
they're poor because:
- they're lazy
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- they're stupid
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- their country is a mess
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- they cheat whenever they can
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- you can have almost anything for free
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- they are totally unreliable
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- half of the country is owned by a few oligarchs
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- they think so high of themselves
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- their schools are a joke
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Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Leshma on February 16, 2015, 12:42:50 pm
Hirlok, how dare you live in a forest? Get back the city and contribute, you goddamned hermit you!
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Vibe on February 16, 2015, 01:54:10 pm
Yea, instead of doing something actual noteworthy, hiding in some backwater dump and feeding oh-so-cute cats is certainly something to admire.
Hypocrites... hypocrites everywhere...  :lol:

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Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Casimir on February 16, 2015, 03:42:51 pm
This thread is a goldmine, if ever there was evidence for chemical castration and people keeping there dumb arse opinions to themselves it was this.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Panos_ on February 25, 2015, 03:02:33 pm
See? Schäuble offered German tax officers to train the Greek ones but they refused.
If we know something it's how to build tanks and how to get taxes from the people.

Instead the make a caricature depicting Schäuble as a Nazi saying stuff like "I gonna make soap out of those Greeks." :(
So mean...

I already told you once, but its ok, I can re write it once more.

Sure, Greece is full with corruption and tax evading citizens, but


THE BIGGEST CORRUPTION SCANDAL HERE IN GREECE, WAS MADE FROM SIEMENS.

SIEMENS

SIEMENS.


German, please spare us from your hollier than thou attitude, you are corrupted aswell, in fact most EU countries are corrupted to the bone.


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This is true!

For example the nurses on public hospitals, would get a bonus if they paid their hands every one hour  :lol:
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: LordBerenger on February 25, 2015, 03:11:20 pm
Atleast Germans has legal prostitution.
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Panos_ on February 25, 2015, 03:24:10 pm
Atleast Germans has legal prostitution.

Yeah, they can legally go and fuck a dog or the opposite  :lol:
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Molly on February 25, 2015, 04:51:05 pm
Are you implying an international big ass company is corrupt? :shock:
omg omg omg

:P
Title: Re: Why Greeks are poor
Post by: Mala on February 25, 2015, 11:13:29 pm
I already told you once, but its ok, I can re write it once more.

Sure, Greece is full with corruption and tax evading citizens, but


THE BIGGEST CORRUPTION SCANDAL HERE IN GREECE, WAS MADE FROM SIEMENS.

SIEMENS
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They only try to fit in. :p