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Title: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Austrian on January 29, 2015, 04:50:59 pm
I am sooooooo excited, I played 1 and 2 to death - really looking forward!
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Algarn on January 29, 2015, 04:59:17 pm
Aw yes. This is gonna be good, I regreted so much graphics were horrible on SWB2, and gameplay was too plain on SWB1. The first shooters I ever played :D
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: LordBerenger on January 29, 2015, 05:15:17 pm
Battlefront 1 and 2 were so good. Shitty graphics or not. Shame this is just in First Person it seems. Hope not every damn Battlefield mechanics/feature is implemented in Battlefront 3 and thus making it look like just a BF4 with Star Wars mod
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leshma on January 29, 2015, 06:13:07 pm
Game shown in OP's video was cancelled, highly doubt any of that will end up in Battlefront 3.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: LordBerenger on January 29, 2015, 06:44:13 pm
Preferred Battlefront 1, all the vehicles felt meatier, in Battlefront 2 everything had boost and bounced around like shit. When an AT-ST shot near you Battlefront 1 you went flying and died, if it shot near you in Battlefront 2 it did nothing.

I know the 2nd had sprint and space battles etc, but the sprint mechanic didnt feel that well suited to the gameplay, the first game felt in a way like you were playing a Stormtrooper/rebel/whatever from the films, the 2nd one didnt capture that. Loved playing as a jedi, but they never made me piss myself in fear the way the relentless invincible jedi in the first game did if you ran into one and they werent near a ledge and you had no vehicles to crush them with.

Battlefront 3 overdue, but i gots no console to play it on unless it's somehow a PS2 release xD

Gets chased by jedi/sith in BF. Manages to get away thanks to master race jetpack. #JetTrooper2OP. Wonder if Jet troopers will be in SWBF3
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Jona on January 29, 2015, 06:49:20 pm
Sorry to burst any of your guys' bubbles, but I've been following this game for a while, and

Game shown in OP's video was cancelled, highly doubt any of that will end up in Battlefront 3.

that is correct. This video just shows footage from the battlefront trailer mixed with various other (now-canceled) games gameplay.

And HESKEY speaks the truth... bf1 > bf2.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: LordBerenger on January 29, 2015, 07:02:39 pm
Phew. So it might look better.

Please bring back capture points.


And HESKEY speaked the truth... bf1 > bf2.

Space combat and certain maps were cooler tho. And Assault in Mos Eisley
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Senni__Ti on January 29, 2015, 07:11:22 pm
2:35 onwards was the cancelled BF3, before that seems to be Dice's stuff.

Not sure what to think about the new upcoming one, will probably get it (unless reviews are shite). Though I'm not a huge fan of the battlefield series, but I loved battlefront 1 & 2 (wasn't a fan of the BF2 mid round/perm non-optional upgrades though).

Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: IR_Kuoin on January 29, 2015, 07:23:10 pm
They said they got some Pandemic devs in on the game, but I hope they will stay true to the original games. Also I hope they get to their senses and bring in 3rd person. One of the things I liked in the battlefront games was looking at my character. Personally loved the style for the rocket troops in BF2.

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I'm also a little pissed at EA for shutting down Pandemic + servers for their LOTR game. And now they were "given back the rights" to make another battlefront game just with Dice instead. I really hope they don't make it into a battlefield clone ...
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Jona on January 29, 2015, 08:00:00 pm
2:35 onwards was the cancelled BF3, before that seems to be Dice's stuff.

It even shows it in the video, but that is footage from "first assault," another canceled star wars game. The only thing from dice is the snowy hoth scene that is the trailer they showed at e3... doesn't even show a second of gameplay. :(

Space combat and certain maps were cooler tho. And Assault in Mos Eisley

Yeah, space was definitely cool, and a great addition, but it left something to be desired with horrible AI and simply being far too limiting (each mothership only had 4 rooms, small maps, only 16 bots on a team, etc). Same can be said for hero assault on mos eisley. Luckily, with new consoles/better PCs both of those problems are easily fixed. It did well for its time, but space battles/hero assault don't really hold up all that well nowadays. At least the bad AI is easily excused in the standard conquest mode since looking at the source material, stormtroopers can't hit shit anyways. :D
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Senni__Ti on January 29, 2015, 09:24:53 pm
It even shows it in the video, but that is footage from "first assault," another canceled star wars game. The only thing from dice is the snowy hoth scene that is the trailer they showed at e3... doesn't even show a second of gameplay. :(
You what?!?
I didn't even know there was another cancelled battlefront esque game :(.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Taser on January 29, 2015, 09:40:50 pm
My angus is peppered for BF3.

Are they doing multiple eras like BF2 with the clone wars and the rebels vs the empire?
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Jona on January 29, 2015, 09:47:42 pm
My angus is peppered for BF3.

Are they doing multiple eras like BF2 with the clone wars and the rebels vs the empire?

I'm trying not to get too depressed before seeing any actual footage, but so far BF3 is shaping up to be a letdown. It is rumored to be only the rebels vs. empire, to better tie in with the new movies, supposedly (it is apparently going to be released the same month as episode 7 hits theaters). Also, it is rumored to only be a fps. In any official news released by EA regarding the new game, they refer to it as a fps. While the original bf games were mainly 3rd person, and I personally enjoyed them far more in 3rd person, they did offer the ability to switch into first person view, so we can keep our fingers crossed that the reverse will be true for the new game. So far it is looking like a star wars-skinned battlefield game, which isn't necessarily a good thing (imo) since that series has gone downhill ever since bad company 2.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Taser on January 29, 2015, 10:03:30 pm
I'm trying not to get too depressed before seeing any actual footage, but so far BF3 is shaping up to be a letdown. It is rumored to be only the rebels vs. empire, to better tie in with the new movies, supposedly (it is apparently going to be released the same month as episode 7 hits theaters). Also, it is rumored to only be a fps. In any official news released by EA regarding the new game, they refer to it as a fps. While the original bf games were mainly 3rd person, and I personally enjoyed them far more in 3rd person, they did offer the ability to switch into first person view, so we can keep our fingers crossed that the reverse will be true for the new game. So far it is looking like a star wars-skinned battlefield game, which isn't necessarily a good thing (imo) since that series has gone downhill ever since bad company 2.

I hope not... otherwise..

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Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leshma on January 29, 2015, 11:00:34 pm
You what?!?
I didn't even know there was another cancelled battlefront esque game :(.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_First_Assault
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: IR_Kuoin on January 29, 2015, 11:42:50 pm
When's the next Republic Commando? God that game is godlike.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Jona on January 29, 2015, 11:49:24 pm
I still played a fuckton of BF2, and loved certain maps. But space combat was only really cool for a bit, i guess i had such high expectations when i first played it in campaign it seemed massive and huge and complex. After a few more i realized there wasnt much to space battles and the whole boarding ships thing was semi-useless.

Assault on Mos Eisley, again was fun but after a few mins? And playing it online, sweet jesus the QQ... everyone on villain team played with character with force choke, it's unblockable, inescapable and they walk up to you and slash your tiny sum of hp left after it whilst you're still in the sprawled animation. Anyone on the hero team had a character with force pull, if anyone anywhere in sight pulls you then you enter an inescapable sprawling animation towards them and they can slash you as you lie infront of them. It got so bad many of the servers removed force powers

Agreed. Multiplayer was kind of a joke. You never realized how unbalanced the game was until you got online and everyone was playing as a rocket trooper, sith lord with force choke, some sort of bomber ship, etc. That said... is the new bf going to even have bots?!?!?! Cuz if not, I ain't gonna buy that shit.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: FleetFox on January 30, 2015, 04:32:27 pm
This footage looks like from that Star Wars; Battlefield 2 or 3 mod, and there also looks like some modded Star Wars battlefront 2 stuff in there as well.  Please don't take anything from this vid as I reckon it's highly suspect as mentioned by others.

This is what is really going on: notice the complete difference in Graphics detail:

Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Senni__Ti on April 17, 2015, 07:28:38 pm
Trailer in 1min
http://starwars.ea.com/starwars/battlefront?utm_campaign=swbf-social-us-ic-yt-lcf-celeb-anno-041615-vid-site-ramp&utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&sourceid=swbf-social-us-ic-yt-lcf-celeb-anno-041615-vid-site-ramp&cid=37615&ts=1429292214735
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leshma on April 17, 2015, 07:31:59 pm
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Senni__Ti on April 17, 2015, 07:39:14 pm
Thanks for the vid leshma, couldn't find it :p.

https://www.origin.com/en-gb/store/buy/battlefront/pc-download/base-game/standard-edition

Just £49.99 on origin...

Looks like early access is 1st of December 2015 (pre-order reward), 8th for release.
More time for reviews I guess.

EDIT: no system Reqs as of yet, I expect it to be similar to BF4 tbh.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Jona on April 17, 2015, 07:43:23 pm
Still doesn't even show gameplay... prepare for disappointment.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: W0LF on April 17, 2015, 07:56:47 pm
Feel like it is gonna be disappointing, but i am still tempted to preorder just because it is a new battlefront :D
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Senni__Ti on April 17, 2015, 08:27:57 pm
Feel like it is gonna be disappointing, but i am still tempted to preorder just because it is a new battlefront :D

Don't, there isn't any decent reason to do it. (no season pass etc for pre-purchase)
Just a week earlier access.

Wait for the reviews to come out.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Jona on April 17, 2015, 08:34:33 pm
So I've done some digging, and here are the (mostly disappointing) facts I've found so far:

- Only 4 planets to fight on when the game launches, with more to come via DLC of course. ONLY FOUR. WTF! (hoth, endor, sullust (not seen in the movies), and tatooine)
- No campaign mode (but there will be a few short solo/co-op missions)
- Already planning DLC, even though the game isn't even finished (nothing new here, typical DICE/EA move). At least the first DLC will be free, and is based on a planet from episode 7 (Jakku).
- No space battles
- No prequel era
- Supposedly there is both first AND third person view (yay!)
- You can play as heroes/villains again, as well as iconic ships like the millenium falcon
- No confirmation if there will be singleplayer with bots (but probably not, other than the few "campaign" missions)

Not looking good so far, but if they really make those four maps/planets complete masterpieces, it could be decent.  :?

EDIT: So apparently four planets doesn't mean just four really large maps, since the DLC planet is coming with two maps set on that planet. Still would be nice to have more varied scenery, regardless.
EDIT 2: It appears as though the class system will be similar to the battlefield games (surprise, surprise) where you can customize your weapon loadout. Maybe there won't even be a class system anymore, nothing was really mentioned about that.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: LordBerenger on April 17, 2015, 08:40:51 pm
That sux if true ^

Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: W0LF on April 17, 2015, 08:43:35 pm
Campaign was the best part for me even if the ai was shit. Also do we know if you can play in the clone war time period?
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Taser on April 17, 2015, 08:43:45 pm
So I've done some digging, and here are the (mostly disappointing) facts I've found so far:

- Only 4 planets to fight on when the game launches, with more to come via DLC of course. ONLY FOUR. WTF! (hoth, endor, sullust (not seen in the movies), and tatooine)
- No campaign mode (but there will be a few short solo/co-op missions)
- Already planning DLC, even though the game isn't even finished (nothing new here, typical DICE/EA move). At least the first DLC will be free, and is based on a planet from episode 7 (Jakku).
- No space battles
- No prequel era
- Supposedly there is both first AND third person view (yay!)
- You can play as heroes/villains again, as well as iconic ships like the millenium falcon
- No confirmation if there will be singleplayer with bots (but probably not, other than the few "campaign" missions)

Not looking good so far, but if they really make those four maps/planets complete masterpieces, it could be decent.  :?

So less than 1/4 the stuff from the previous games? Awesome.

Definitely not pre ordering. Not like I was planning on it but if I was going to consider it at all, definitely not going to now.

That's pathetic.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Christo on April 17, 2015, 08:48:09 pm
- No space battles

 :o

gg
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Jona on April 17, 2015, 08:55:14 pm
Basically, this is just a reskinned battlefield, as we all feared. No space battles, since battlefield didn't have a mode like that which they could easily reskin. All the time that they would have normally spent making a short campaign like in the battlefield games (does battlefield even still have a campaign mode? I stopped playing those games after bfbc2) was instead probably used to tweak vehicles to behave more like spaceships instead of jet fighters, or walkers instead of tanks. That, and they had to create the mechanics for lightsabers/force powers/jetpacks/etc. Still not impressed in the slightest.

Campaign was the best part for me even if the ai was shit. Also do we know if you can play in the clone war time period?

The campaign was alright, nothing outstanding. What I will miss however is the instant action mode where you play any multiplayer map filled with bots. This mode gave the games infinite replayability, since you can still play it long after the online community died. Not to mention that there is just something so much more satisfying about being a fucking hero and slaughtering a bunch of bots, even though you are technically on even footing with them power-wise. I don't feel like getting 360 no scoped by leet mlg gamers online all the time.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Taser on April 17, 2015, 09:10:08 pm
I really liked playing the galactic conquest mode in bf2. Sure the AI wasn't super good but it was still fun for me. Plus the wampa thing in bf2(?) was fucking fun. Had a blast doing that with friends.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Algarn on April 17, 2015, 09:13:18 pm
When you mean weapon cutomization, it shouldn't be considered bad until some point (ex : Insurgency provides a gameplay where you can customize your weapons, but you'll have to sacrifice something else, like a holo sight can be switched for a flash nade). If they make it grind based + without a class system, then it's another EA disaster with star wars' theme. Also, no space battles is plain disapointing.


Can't wait also for the multiple DLCs, like : "get access for this awesome char/weapon/skin for only 10€". Nothing to see here, but a plain disappointment, despite the hype considering it's star wars.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: LordBerenger on April 17, 2015, 09:16:35 pm
I like the Battlefield series. But it's like EA is taking other series and killing them off whilst Activision is killing their own series instead lol.


I wish BF1+BF2 were more populated. Great games back in the day. And remember when i didn't have internet on my PS2 and played only campaign and instant action with bots on BF1. Was so much fun even with it not being MP.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Jona on April 17, 2015, 09:27:19 pm
Was so much fun even with it not being MP.

Exactly, these games don't NEED multiplayer to be insanely fun. I didn't play bf1 or bf2 online since I never hooked my ps2 up to the internet, but I still had a blast playing splitscreen with my neighbor against bots or each other. Eventually, I got bf2 for pc just a few years ago for a couple bucks and played on the near-dead servers a few times. All anyone did was run around as the OP rocket troopers or jet troopers... I was the only one man enough to go assault and somehow managed to top the boards with my puny machine gun and leet rolling tactics. I honestly had more fun playing vs bots since there was at least some variety in their tactics/class selection. It wasn't just a dumb rocket spamfest. Granted DICE does know how to balance a game a lot better for multiplayer so I'm sure those same issues won't persist, I still don't find it necessary to focus solely on multiplayer when they can easily code in AI of at least the same (dumb) level as the ps2 era games. Surely they have some code/scripts they can reuse from some old game they've made, could edit them slightly and boom, instant action mode with bots is back. Half the fun from that mode was being god-tier since the AI was such shit.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leshma on April 17, 2015, 09:47:26 pm
And remember when i didn't have internet on my PS2 and played only campaign and instant action with bots on BF1.

And you still praise consoles. While you were playing limited campaign with bots on PS2, I was playing BF in local with 64 players. Yeah, it was in net cafe but I knew everybody in there and it was epic experience.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: LordBerenger on April 17, 2015, 10:41:02 pm
And you still praise consoles. While you were playing limited campaign with bots on PS2, I was playing BF in local with 64 players. Yeah, it was in net cafe but I knew everybody in there and it was epic experience.

I grew up with N64, Dreamcast, PS1, NES, PS2, GC etc and consoles so probably why. Even though i did play AOE2 like crazy when i was a kid. And atleast bots don't use gay tactics and stuff like Jona said.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leshma on April 17, 2015, 10:54:39 pm
When BF1942 was released, most people who were playing were excited they will finally be able to take part in real WW2 battle with tanks and planes. They didn't try to exploit the game at first. That shit started with BC2 and exploded with bug fest called BF3.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Clockworkkiller on April 18, 2015, 04:05:13 am
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Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: lombardsoup on April 18, 2015, 04:49:42 am
Another bf style game with no mods and premium dlc whoring

Are there any actual gameplay videos of this instead of scripted trailers?
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Shemaforash on April 18, 2015, 08:00:09 am
I grew up with N64, Dreamcast, PS1, NES, PS2, GC etc and consoles so probably why. Even though i did play AOE2 like crazy when i was a kid. And atleast bots don't use gay tactics and stuff like Jona said.

You mean how boring and simpleminded the AI in those early games are? I'll admit it was easy to get by when you were as simpleminded as the AI in the game but in a reasonable grown up perspective you should expect more. SP is completely unappealing to me at this point.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: LordBerenger on April 18, 2015, 09:16:44 am
You mean how boring and simpleminded the AI in those early games are? I'll admit it was easy to get by when you were as simpleminded as the AI in the game but in a reasonable grown up perspective you should expect more. SP is completely unappealing to me at this point.

Then they can improve AI
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Shemaforash on April 18, 2015, 05:00:03 pm
Then they can improve AI
or why not just play against people?
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: LordBerenger on April 18, 2015, 07:04:12 pm
or why not just play against people?


- You end up with gay servers with gay rules (especially when the games population is almost non-existant

- They camp and use unconventional and weird tactics.

- (Not saying this is in Battlefront but other series) Bots don't use guns with purple/pink/stupid camos

- It doesn't feel like all out war if the servs aren't completely full

- Eventually the games pop is gonna die down and you'll need dem bots.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Jona on April 18, 2015, 10:56:32 pm
BF 2 was great in coop or local multiplayer, but online kinda sucked. Way too easy to troll and TK, or if Friendly fire was off it because easy to run up close as smuggler and det-pack without hurting yourself, same with vanguard and mines

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Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: IR_Kuoin on June 16, 2015, 12:35:23 am

At this point I personally don't know what to feel towards the new game. Obviously my nostalgia can't cope with this and the classic is dead. But this "new" take might be interesting. Only thing that really bugs me is that you can play as a female on the Empire side ...
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: LordBerenger on June 16, 2015, 12:39:23 am

At this point I personally don't know what to feel towards the new game. Obviously my nostalgia can't cope with this and the classic is dead. But this "new" take might be interesting. Only thing that really bugs me is that you can play as a female on the Empire side ...

lel xp for kills on screen. i r done


Fallout 4 and Deus Ex Mankind Divided = Insta pre-purchases and Battlefront = Wait 4 reviews and more videos.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: IR_Kuoin on June 16, 2015, 12:42:48 am
I also wanna note that I chuckled when I saw Mark Hamilton pop up on screen, looking slightly older than in the movies.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Siiem on June 16, 2015, 04:51:23 pm
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Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Xant on June 16, 2015, 05:43:17 pm
Looks really... arcadey.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Shemaforash on June 16, 2015, 06:01:16 pm
Battlefront was too.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Siiem on June 16, 2015, 06:59:28 pm
They're taking a Bethesda, making a mod basically.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: darmaster on June 18, 2015, 11:31:26 pm
read they're gonna add dynamic map, like if rebels are winning an empire ship will fall down on the planet, now that is cool. but the games looks way too caotic for my old man standards :/
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: JasonPastman on June 20, 2015, 10:14:36 am
They're taking a Bethesda, making a mod basically.

Yes, Battlefront 3 looks (so far) to be a $60 Battlefield 4 mod.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Banok on June 20, 2015, 02:15:33 pm
Even if this game is atrocious. Calling it a bf mod is unbelievably far fetched. Its not using any of the same assets for a start, I dont remember walking tanks, magical abilities and lightsabers in my battlefield but maybe because I didnt buy the DLC?
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 20, 2015, 05:03:20 pm
Yes, Battlefront 3 looks (so far) to be a $60 Battlefield 4 mod.

Except the only Bethesda game that you could possibly consider a mod is FNV, which was developed by obsidian, not bethesda
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 20, 2015, 10:11:19 pm
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How come SWBF2 had so much stuff in it, while 3 barely pushes a third of that? I really dont see anything but downgrades (except graphically and physics wise i guess)..

What a dissapointment. Seriously, if it wasnt for the servers being shut down, i would rather play 2 over 3 anyday from whats shown.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on June 22, 2015, 02:44:20 pm
Only issue I see is the lack of planets. Space battles kinda sucked in BF2 and it's bad for players who don't like flying cos that's all they've got. Battlefield 3 and 4 got criticized for a poor single player so I'd rather they didn't bother with one than add some crappy afterthought.

Prequel era is both annoying and understandable. It's obviously not the time period they're going for which is OK, but I sure would like to run about as an ARC trooper.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 22, 2015, 04:00:03 pm
Only issue I see is the lack of planets. Space battles kinda sucked in BF2 and it's bad for players who don't like flying cos that's all they've got. Battlefield 3 and 4 got criticized for a poor single player so I'd rather they didn't bother with one than add some crappy afterthought.

Prequel era is both annoying and understandable. It's obviously not the time period they're going for which is OK, but I sure would like to run about as an ARC trooper.

Well it sucked in BF2 that why you improve it in the sequel, instead of removing it completely. They have the money for it, and the engine already has good flight mechanics afaik.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Vibe on June 22, 2015, 04:04:54 pm
Well it sucked in BF2 that why you improve it in the sequel, instead of removing it completely. They have the money for it, and the engine already has good flight mechanics afaik.

Why improve on gameplay when you can milk the franchise with the same product?
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: IR_Kuoin on June 22, 2015, 09:16:32 pm
Even the battlefront games made for the PSP got more customization and gameplay elements than this. You could fight on the ground, find an x-wing. Fly around on the ground shooting at infantry, then you could fly up into a space battle like BF2 ...
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Jona on June 22, 2015, 09:21:05 pm
Even the battlefront games made for the PSP got more customization and gameplay elements than this. You could fight on the ground, find an x-wing. Fly around on the ground shooting at infantry, then you could fly up into a space battle like BF2 ...

Fun fact: The one where you could do that was actually a port of the scrapped battlefront 3 code from ages back. A shame that the old and glorious-looking battlefront 3 got reduced to a psp exclusive. :/
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: IR_Kuoin on June 22, 2015, 11:21:37 pm
Fun fact: The one where you could do that was actually a port of the scrapped battlefront 3 code from ages back. A shame that the old and glorious-looking battlefront 3 got reduced to a psp exclusive. :/

Wow that is even more saddening. Fuck you EA for shutting down Pandemic ...
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on June 23, 2015, 12:17:17 am
Well it sucked in BF2 that why you improve it in the sequel, instead of removing it completely. They have the money for it, and the engine already has good flight mechanics afaik.

How can you improve a game mode that only has one vehicle type? Be like restricting all game play to tanks it's boring.

Only way it could work would be with a boarding mission, like a star destroying capturing a rebel ship so there's corridor based ground fighting and space combat outside. But then there's no vehicles other than spacecraft and so the tank fans get annoyed. And that's one map.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 23, 2015, 05:30:18 pm
How can you improve a game mode that only has one vehicle type? Be like restricting all game play to tanks it's boring.

Only way it could work would be with a boarding mission, like a star destroying capturing a rebel ship so there's corridor based ground fighting and space combat outside. But then there's no vehicles other than spacecraft and so the tank fans get annoyed. And that's one map.

World of tanks? Warthunder? There are games that are good while only using one sort of vehicles. Sure they would also have to improve the boarding, dogfighting and bombing of ships to make it more interesting. SWBF2 did it decent enough for its time, and thats a while back.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on June 27, 2015, 10:06:27 am
World of tanks? Warthunder? There are games that are good while only using one sort of vehicles. Sure they would also have to improve the boarding, dogfighting and bombing of ships to make it more interesting. SWBF2 did it decent enough for its time, and thats a while back.

They may be games that are good but their sole purpose is to drive a tank or fly a plane. Point is battlefield and therefore battlefront is catering to people who don't just want to do that. By creating maps that are restricting this you're going to make players leave who don't want to play that stuff.

I do kinda feel like it could've had it's own game mode but I don't think Dice would want to spend time on a game mode that could cater to only a portion of the players.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: LordBerenger on July 01, 2015, 11:48:45 pm
Closed Alpha tomorrow. Who else got in?
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: LordBerenger on July 02, 2015, 12:52:50 pm
Played a bit so far. Pretty damn cool. But plenty of lag, fps and bug problems.
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Post by: Molly on July 02, 2015, 01:14:46 pm
Alpha leaked.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leshma on July 02, 2015, 04:48:51 pm

Overall not to shabby. Graphics good, seems well optimized. But gameplay is a bit bland, maybe due to simpleton map design. Also dislike weapons, but I've dislike them in every non Jedi Knight Star Wars game. Dark Forces II had best SW weapon models and sounds imho. Every else was going for the worse.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: LordBerenger on September 09, 2015, 04:59:42 pm
http://www.pcgamer.com/star-wars-battlefront-has-no-server-browser/

Well. Wasn't sure if i was gonna get it or not. But now? Meh. Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Fallout 4, Just Cause 3 and Mirror's Edge Catalyst are coming up soon. Fuq this
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Vibe on October 07, 2015, 05:38:33 pm
Just watching streams the game seems really bland. At most a reskinned Battlefield. Beta supposedly opens for everyone tomorrow and I don't think I can be arsed even to download and give it a shot.
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on October 07, 2015, 07:03:03 pm
Looks pretty neat, but they are going to have to add a lot of stuff on top of this. Otherwise ill just look for a populated bearforce 2 server.
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Post by: LordBerenger on October 07, 2015, 07:07:55 pm
Looks pretty neat, but they are going to have to add a lot of stuff on top of this. Otherwise ill just look for a populated bearforce 2 server.

It's gonna be real popular when the new Star Wars movie comes out tho.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 07, 2015, 10:16:56 pm
Watched a few gameplay videos, as expected, looks like shit.
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Post by: Gatsby on October 08, 2015, 10:24:01 am
Looks quite terrible, but the client is light and free so i give it a try this afternoon.
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Post by: Vibe on October 08, 2015, 10:27:51 am
From a guy who played Friends&Family beta

..this game kinda sucks. It's a stripped down version of Battlefield. No squads, no voice chat, no way to strategize with your teammates, no classes (and the synergy that comes from it), underwhelming powerups, paper-thin vehicles, zero sense of teamplay. Somehow they removed everything I loved about Battlefield, doubled down on all the terrible shit, and built the core mechanics around what was left.

Sounds exactly like it looks. Sad. They could've at least put it on a Battlefield level...
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Golem on October 08, 2015, 04:44:01 pm
Preloaded the crap, can't even launch it even though it said 16:00 (my time) - what a piece of shit.
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Post by: Leshma on October 08, 2015, 04:45:39 pm
Servers are falling apart, typical for Origin... like they didn't know everybody and their mother would want to try this.
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Post by: Vibe on October 08, 2015, 04:55:44 pm
"Could not find any server"

gg

oh just as I typed this post I got lucky enough to enter one lol
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Golem on October 08, 2015, 05:59:40 pm
First match - first on the scoreboard, pickups every few seconds. Played as Empire.
Second match - Played as Rebels - couldn't even make it two feet from spawn.
balance  :lol:

Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Vibe on October 08, 2015, 06:20:46 pm
yeah the map is really unbalanced, otherwise the game is just disappointing, as expected
dumbed down piece of shit with a star wars skin
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leesin on October 08, 2015, 08:50:41 pm
Yeah I tried this out for a few rounds just after it unlocked and I have to say I was lost for words at how dumbed down it is and what little options there are for setups. I have a feeling the reason behind it is because they are going to sell the rest of the content as DLC ( new weapons/customization options ) and milk all the kids who become Star Wars fans at the end of this year.
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Post by: Golem on October 08, 2015, 08:58:12 pm
My thoughts exactly..
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Post by: Gatsby on October 08, 2015, 10:06:45 pm
I totally suck at fps and after some match i got 1st with empire and like 7th with rebel. This totally explain the game.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Vexus on October 08, 2015, 10:34:18 pm
Besides the snowy map, are there any other maps available?

Watched two videos on youtube so far.
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Post by: Ganner on October 08, 2015, 10:38:14 pm
2 multiplayer maps so far, the walker mission and a smaller 10v10 capture the drop pods map on some rocky planet. I like it so far, but it is EXTREMELY dumbed down version of battlefield/battlefront. Even the air combat is dumbed down.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Vibe on October 08, 2015, 10:39:56 pm
Even the air combat is dumbed down.

You don't say, auto aim as long as you look in the general direction :lol:
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leesin on October 08, 2015, 10:41:11 pm
2 multiplayer maps so far, the walker mission and a smaller 10v10 capture the drop pods map on some rocky planet. I like it so far, but it is EXTREMELY dumbed down version of battlefield/battlefront. Even the air combat is dumbed down.

To be fair I actually had more fun with the fighter v fighter combat than I did in any of the modern based Battlefield games, it was arcadey style fun and kinda reminded me of the old Star Wars games lol. I did also have fun playing the game, but I have that feeling it's going to be a bigger DLC shit storm than any other we've seen previously.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Vexus on October 08, 2015, 10:52:00 pm
2 multiplayer maps so far, the walker mission and a smaller 10v10 capture the drop pods map on some rocky planet. I like it so far, but it is EXTREMELY dumbed down version of battlefield/battlefront. Even the air combat is dumbed down.

Yea that's a bummer.

Atm it's too similar to a reskin of battlefield than an actual sequel to Star Wars Battlefront.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Kafein on October 08, 2015, 11:20:12 pm
People over at Planetside 2 reddit are predicting this will increase Planetside 2's playerbase like the BF4 release did.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Gravoth_iii on October 08, 2015, 11:46:33 pm
People over at Planetside 2 reddit are predicting this will increase Planetside 2's playerbase like the BF4 release did.

I boner when i imagine a star wars game in planetside style. Now that would be a game to get hyped over, maybe one day.. Planetside still fun though, ill probably keep playing that over battlefront.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Algarn on October 09, 2015, 12:09:36 am
Planetside still fun though

How 2 planetside 4 real noobs :

1/ Get to BR 16
2/ Get resist shield, some nanoweave armor, a decent LMG.
3/ ???
4/ Gratz, you're killing people who are better overall, cos you kill them in 6 bullets and they kill you in 20.

Basically, PS2 went to shit, since there are like 25-35% of people that play HA in most infantry fights. Truly killed it off for me.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leshma on October 09, 2015, 12:40:11 am
Something tells me they designed this game with tablets and smartphones in mind. Huge UI elements conveniently placed for easy "fingering". Dumbed down gameplay, even for console gaming standards. No real depth in any aspect of the game.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: darmaster on October 09, 2015, 12:47:56 am
Shouldn't it be called battlefront anyways?
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Post by: Vexus on October 09, 2015, 01:29:43 am
Shouldn't it be called battlefront anyways?

That's the joke.
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Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on October 09, 2015, 02:18:01 am
Played as Darth Wankstain, died straight away, oooooh yeah
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Vibe on October 09, 2015, 09:29:50 am
let us all cry some more together

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Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: LordBerenger on October 09, 2015, 02:50:32 pm
Sucks Battlefront 1 and 2's community is almost dead i guess.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 09, 2015, 02:53:17 pm
Gamespy took care of that, now you gotta play on clients. (IIRC)
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on October 09, 2015, 02:54:02 pm
Sucks Battlefront 1 and 2's community is almost dead i guess.

Didnt the BF2 servers get shut down or something? i bought the game but i never installed it since just at that moment i heard some announcement that they were beign shut down. I would love to play SWBF2 multiplayer since i only experienced split screen gameplay as a kiddo.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 09, 2015, 03:21:51 pm
I had all the Battlefront games on PS2 and on PC. The multiplayer on both games were amazing. I know nostalgia is talking but it was really fun / good. Also, when the fuck is Republic Command 2? That game had awesome multiplayer.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: LordBerenger on October 09, 2015, 03:29:57 pm
I had all the Battlefront games on PS2 and on PC. The multiplayer on both games were amazing. I know nostalgia is talking but it was really fun / good. Also, when the fuck is Republic Command 2? That game had awesome multiplayer.

Yes plz
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leshma on October 09, 2015, 03:33:29 pm
Ain't likely to happen. But you have Disney Infinity: Twilight of the Republic :lol:
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Vibe on October 09, 2015, 03:43:15 pm
Even if another Jedi Knight happens it'll probably be some dumbed down shit like this ;_;
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: chadz on October 09, 2015, 10:20:11 pm
You don't say, auto aim as long as you look in the general direction :lol:

protip: dont use rmb to auto aim. aim manually. that way, you can actually hit enemies flying evasive maneuvers
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Dooz on October 10, 2015, 01:57:18 am
Pray that lessons are learned if the latest release from a hugely popular series based on a hugely popular franchise doesn't make big bucks for EA. People may slowly begin to put 2 and 2 together.

that's a big if, considering how popular it already seems to be, and how dumbed down people have been conditioned to be. there's no going back to cool shit, we've progressed past the point of deep gameplay

Total War used to be an awesome franchise, now it's horseshit, for example
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on October 10, 2015, 12:59:50 pm
Total War used to be an awesome franchise, now it's horseshit, for example
Blaming Sega for that.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Pinche on October 11, 2015, 12:01:10 am
I´ve played the beta and the maps and gameplay are both completly plain.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 12, 2015, 04:08:45 pm
Aesthetics can't make up for the lack of gameplay / content
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Vibe on October 12, 2015, 04:15:35 pm
I own nothing next-gen, and I've gone off shooters in general anyway although I loved the first 2 Battlefronts back in the day. End result is that I wont get this game no matter how good or bad it is.

Unpopular opinion - Saw some youtube vids of the new Battlefront from beta, it actually looks pretty good.

Maybe cos I never played any Battlefield games so am not tempted to say 'OMG it's just a reskinned Battlefield!', to me it just looks like a next gen Battlefront. Doesn't look like it's 'lost the Star Wars soul' at all.

I love the death animations and sounds, the rifles/lasers sound and look much more solid than in the old Battlefronts, this pleases me. Havent seen any multiplayer yet with the bullshit jump-jets, they might be annoying. The old games had that too tho, and bullshit rolling/sprint-jumps from the basic infantry that made the battlefield very un-starwarsy (tho i'm sure it's super-realistic).

I was as ready as anyone for the hate bandwagon (especially since I don't plan on playing it even if it's really good), and I love talking about how modern remakes of games i'm nostalgic about fall short, however this one may not be so bad. It certainly seems extremely Star Warsy, and at least at the noob level I was seeing on youtube, it looks a lot more like you're in a genuine firefight from the original trilogy.

The game can be decent if you're new to shooters or don't have many demands, and of course if you're a huge star wars fan. So if you're looking to just mindlessly shoot some storm troopers, then it's alright. If you're looking for something more from a shooter then this is not it.

Also shameless plug, already made a thread for this game, but want to mention it here as well since it seems to be a good alternative if you're looking for something more akin to Battlefront 2 - http://forum.melee.org/and-all-the-other-things-floating-around-out-there/angels-fall-first/
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leshma on October 12, 2015, 05:21:10 pm
Bottom line, no one would play it if it wasn't for Star Wars theme. But it is Star Wars game, so knock yourself out.

PS. Luke Skywalker looks hilariously bad. Reminds me why it is bad idea to put him in video games, they never did him right.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Kafein on October 12, 2015, 07:30:26 pm
Maybe cos I never played any Battlefield games so am not tempted to say 'OMG it's just a reskinned Battlefield!', to me it just looks like a next gen Battlefront. Doesn't look like it's 'lost the Star Wars soul' at all.

Well that's the point it's actually designed to be much, much worse than the late Battlefields. Stripped of most content and all but the baseline shooter mechanics and casualized to the bone (like, pick ups, seriously?).
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Senni__Ti on October 12, 2015, 08:20:29 pm
I expected battlefront, instead I found a simplified battlefield.
Glad I didn't pre-order.

I did however enjoy myself initially, though it got pretty dull fast.
Visually stunning, great sounds and typical EA gameplay.

I'll keep an eye on it to see if it changes with full release/future patches.
But I doubt I'll buy this, unless considerably discounted.


EDIT:
Played a bit more today, enjoyed myself.
Explored more of the game, mainly the larger map walker defense mode. After getting used to the spawn points and progression, I started to enjoy it.
It has just enough of a battlefront feel to make me change my mind about it.

I probably still won't buy day one or anything silly, but I'm going to watch this more closely.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leshma on October 13, 2015, 01:35:21 am
STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT $50 SEASON PASS ANNOUNCED (http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/12/star-wars-battlefront-50-season-pass-announced)
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 13, 2015, 01:45:29 am
Wow, they already milkin'
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Post by: njames89 on October 13, 2015, 03:03:46 am
I bet it will be amazing!
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Post by: [ptx] on October 14, 2015, 11:47:51 am
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leshma on October 14, 2015, 01:36:10 pm
Seen that few days ago. What I don't understand is why they made him wear that gay black garb? Shouldn't he wear white winter outfit like in the movies when he was on Hoth? He may have force with him, but that doesn't mean he can't catch cold.
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Post by: Uulmshar on October 14, 2015, 02:27:15 pm
They probably only have the one skin for Luke, at this point.
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Post by: Leshma on October 14, 2015, 02:29:23 pm
Yeah, forgot about DLCs... they probably have chosen this monstrosity as default, because it makes him look like he's Sith or something. Better outfits and skins will be sold for five bucks a piece.
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Post by: Uulmshar on October 14, 2015, 02:32:24 pm
Makes him look like sith? That's the outfit he wears in the last movie. Every nerd beyond level three would know that!
But I also suspect DLC shenanigans. Maybe even microtransactions to buy cooler skins.
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Post by: LordBerenger on October 14, 2015, 03:07:16 pm
First skin/outfit DLC will be Pilot Luke.
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Post by: Leshma on October 14, 2015, 04:04:47 pm
Makes him look like sith? That's the outfit he wears in the last movie. Every nerd beyond level three would know that!

Ye he wears that in Return of the Jedi, which one of four terrible Star Wars movies. It does make him look like Sith, that was kinda the whole point because in that horrible movie he went to his father's side for a moment. It is Sith outfit ffs, black robes and tunics.

This is Luke Skywalker I remember and love:

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Orange rebel flight suit is cool as well.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leshma on October 14, 2015, 04:14:11 pm
Exactly why I liked him, was innocent at first. Later turned to be complete fggt like his father. That whole family is cursed, I tell you!

If only Obi didn't have soft spot for blond lil fgts...

Heskey, this somewhat recent "Sith are kewl" SW campaign, does it bother you? I've been pissed after that SWTOR intro where they did everything to make Sith look badass.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Leshma on October 14, 2015, 05:31:44 pm
I'm a fan of ambiguity and no clear cut 'goodies' and 'baddies'

Exactly why KOTOR was so good in my book. Doesn't matter which path you choose, you end feeling like shit after ending cutscene. You went with light side and saved the universe, good for you bro, now step aside while some assholes take the credit for it instead of you. Went full black, yo bro you're emprah of the world. Too bad you like massive tool on that balcony pretending you're important now. Best way to end that game is Darth Revan to suffer terrible death where he will redeem himself through multiple scenarious. Too bad that didn't cross their minds.

Jolee Bindo, not just lives the same way our favorite cRPG hermit does, but he's also making most sense in that game world.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Golem on October 14, 2015, 09:21:21 pm
...atleast it has some comedic potential
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Kafein on October 14, 2015, 10:23:55 pm
STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT $50 SEASON PASS ANNOUNCED (http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/12/star-wars-battlefront-50-season-pass-announced)

Pre-order your microtransactions NOW!

It's literally that, isn't it?
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Vexus on October 18, 2015, 12:00:55 pm
Angry Joe on the Season Pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8vR-I3ccCA
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Tibe on October 21, 2015, 08:57:02 pm
Watched a couple of videos and....honestly, I wish Warbands Bear force mod would get a triple-A studio backing. Would be so much more solid. :lol:
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 22, 2015, 10:08:12 am
Take Red Orchestra: Stalingrad and reskin and add stuff to make it fit Star Wars, cashing.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: Kafein on October 22, 2015, 09:35:44 pm
Except guns in Star Wars appear to be really inaccurate.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefield 3
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 23, 2015, 02:45:10 am
They didn't even have Kar98s. Poor bastards :(