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Yay more Acre Vassals to fight....should be fun :rolleyes:squids, LL, BRD and kesh :rolleyes:
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squids, LL, BRD and kesh :rolleyes:Wat
House Stark Declares war on the Republic of Squids!
Wat
Acre with Astralis and trading with WotN. WotN is with BlackCompany. Astralis is with Occitan. Hosp is with Occitan. Not sure what MB is doing but imma guess they are with one of those.
With strat halfway over, its a nice carebear system NA has got going.
PS: I didnt mention Frisians cuz they dont wanna be mentioned as doing anything :wink:
I mean, Frisia might have done things but we got discouraged from playing because they made economy so much more tough.
I really just don't get it. I'm personally fucking irritated by the fact that the powers that be decided that while this game is in a constant decline in playerbase they should make Strategus LESS accessible. I just don't get it, and I wish they hadn't nerfed economy this hard. Strategus is halfway over, and it's been entirely boring.
Whoa, Strat's half over and there's only been one war of consequence? I call Shame on all you factions that aren't fighting. Go sit in your fiefs counting silver and adjusting your ledgers while the real men send their loyal subjects to die horribly in pointless wars.
And quit whining about everyone ganging up on Squids. A blockade is a viable tactic, but it pisses people off. Think Lusitania, people, or the British blockade of Europe that led to the American invasion of Canada. Blockades piss Americans off.
hmmThat was a very wise decision. If your clan goes to war, the best thing to do is run away. Of course, you might be friends with the Squids, so it may not be all cowardice. No, wait, it is cowardice. I've been on Squid TS and I think they're all awesome guys. But I'll still fight them. Cuz that's why we're here. I suggest you just play native and trade from Tulga to Sargoth. Just watch out for them looters.
im part of house stark...hmm
hmmm
GOODLUCK TALA!!!
*immediately leaves clan*
I mean, Frisia might have done things but we got discouraged from playing because they made economy so much more tough.
I really just don't get it. I'm personally fucking irritated by the fact that the powers that be decided that while this game is in a constant decline in playerbase they should make Strategus LESS accessible. I just don't get it, and I wish they hadn't nerfed economy this hard. Strategus is halfway over, and it's been entirely boring.
The pricing seems fine. A respectable army can be built in a week if people just look at the map, anticipate S&D's, and know where the equipment is discounted. Once you're rolling around with a decent army; the chance of you getting attacked fall dramatically and the snowball starts. Once you reach the snowball point horizon; the gothic plate comes easy.
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To be fair the Stark/Acre side had about a dozen more mercs and almost twice as many troops.
Acre has more members than AoW/Republic of Squids so they can easily fill a roster, but most of their members are pretty bad at the game and most of our members are pretty good. So they just feed us tickets and waste their advantage. I feel kind of bad for them honestly, fighting on their side doesn't seem very fun.
Sorry to burst your bubble legs but if you go look at the stats page for this strat Squids are actually on the wrong side of the K/D ratio. Or they were about a week and a half ago and I haven't seen any massive victories in that time that would flip the loss the other way.
Squids have done the vast bulk of attacking, 75% (54 in total) of all attacks in the last 12 weeks have been by ROS. ROS has lost 19k of tickets, out of a total of 35k tickets (once you take AI out of the equation. So in all action on the NA side, ROS lost basically 20k and everyone else in every fight they have been in, including those against AI lost 15k.
Sorry to burst your bubble legs but if you go look at the stats page for this strat Squids are actually on the wrong side of the K/D ratio. Or they were about a week and a half ago and I haven't seen any massive victories in that time that would flip the loss the other way.
I would take out the atatcks on the most defensible castle on the map if you are going to use those stats for the basis of your argument and just use all the field battles.
He was using a fief defence against an under preped army as the basis for his statement.
There is no point at trying to cut the totals down or tweak anything. In a battle of attrition ROS is on the wrong side of that battle. The total number of troop farms at their disposal vs their opponents leaves them in a bad position and with over all loses like this, it's even worse.
True, but when you attack, especially against Castles like what Astralis is in, you are gunna lose more troops than the defenders. Its obvious.
Now if you look at the battles where ROS gets ATTACKED this strat. ROS lost 1776, while the Attackers lost 3026.
I guess my point isn't getting across well enough.
Defenders will always have a better ratio in strat simply because defending is optimal.
Truth is the Squids have much better mercs. And, at the beginning, they had better armour. Think about it- if their armour can take two hits as opposed to our armour which can get you killed in one hit, its like having double the tickets. And, as anyone who played NA1, morale has a lot to do with it. By the time the Squids were naked, our team was kinda depressed. They were naked, we had monk's robes, which is pretty much the same with the weapons we had. But when you're on a team that's losing, you lose confidence and you don';t fight as well.I think that everyone wins as long as they're having fun! :mrgreen:
But.... silver for silver, who won?
I think that everyone wins as long as they're having fun! :mrgreen:
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I guess my point isn't getting across well enough.
Defenders will always have a better ratio in strat simply because defending is optimal.
Truth is the Squids have much better mercs. And, at the beginning, they had better armour. Think about it- if their armour can take two hits as opposed to our armour which can get you killed in one hit, its like having double the tickets. And, as anyone who played NA1, morale has a lot to do with it. By the time the Squids were naked, our team was kinda depressed. They were naked, we had monk's robes, which is pretty much the same with the weapons we had. But when you're on a team that's losing, you lose confidence and you don';t fight as well.
But.... silver for silver, who won?
Everything you said makes sense. Sad thing is, I will use it against you. Being new to strat, I've been sorta following along, trusting the experience of those... well, more experienced. But squids had an excellent defence, and despite the roster difference seemed to outnumber us everywhere. First thing you learn in NA1 is divide and conquer. The best thing a peasant can do is have 5 level 32ers chasing him for several minutes. Second thing is team work, which is a bitch for a commander to do. Between people whining about gear or talking about Game of Thrones, keeping chat levels relevant is a bitch.
But, being new to strat as already mentioned, I think I'll try make some changes to the command thingy. Sorta like Currie did in WWI. He wasn't a properly trained general, so he did his own shit that made sense. The British despised him as an upstart and a free thinker, but he won victories. And, Armagon willing, so will I.
See you in the field, and may the ..... man win (not sure if I'm a better man than you, so I left it blank, really hoping it's me)!
Calamari is also a good commander. He knows when to push and when to pull. You can't underestimate the value of good command. It's not just about tactics. It's about the atmosphere in TS. Some people create a very negative atmosphere and it destroys morale. Squids generally have fun and play it loose. That goes a long way.
Yes and no. Armor values play a large role but not as much as mercs and command. Last year the FCC defended Vayejeg against the Gobblins. They had full plate and we had light Kuyak type stuff. They had more tickets and we held a 5 man merc advantage (both sides had at least 40.) We not only beat them but picked up 600 tickets in the process.
Everything you said makes sense. Sad thing is, I will use it against you. Being new to strat, I've been sorta following along, trusting the experience of those... well, more experienced. But squids had an excellent defence, and despite the roster difference seemed to outnumber us everywhere. First thing you learn in NA1 is divide and conquer. The best thing a peasant can do is have 5 level 32ers chasing him for several minutes. Second thing is team work, which is a bitch for a commander to do. Between people whining about gear or talking about Game of Thrones, keeping chat levels relevant is a bitch.
But, being new to strat as already mentioned, I think I'll try make some changes to the command thingy. Sorta like Currie did in WWI. He wasn't a properly trained general, so he did his own shit that made sense. The British despised him as an upstart and a free thinker, but he won victories. And, Armagon willing, so will I.
See you in the field, and may the ..... man win (not sure if I'm a better man than you, so I left it blank, really hoping it's me)!
but
i never ordered or led an attack on vayejeg
and how are you saying you picked up 600 tickets on a defence, that can't happen m8
It may not have been you. Kesh would have to elaborate. But it was Vayejeg and we did absolutely slaughter the enemy despite inferior gear. The mercs deserve the credit. The EU archers were trashing people. I was never involved in politics last strat so I rarely looked to see who was attacking who. I just merc'd for the FCC because NA Fallen had like 2-3 people playing.
Yeah, it was that one yolo charge by chaos I think - malaclypse or one that started witha K?, sorry its been a while. We did something similar I think when frisians and occitan attacked - great village to defend with good cavalry support and ranged.
Did i just witness a triple post. :evil:
So remember S2 when Chaos and Hosp were going at it. It was ball breaking attacking Chaos. 5 battles in a row of just getting smashed on the offensive, they were doing everything better on the ground. It was brutal, moral was always shot to shit and in the end we just had this same group showing up that could handle the beating. A couple of people cracked and left Hosp over the fights. In the end though, the grind won out. Chaos just didn't have the numbers and Hosp Soviet zerged them. But god damn that one small group of villages in the north just flipped back and forward for months.
Fuck this game is crazy, what are we doing!
It's good for the post count.
Calamari is also a good commander.
I'm just the guy that says, "hey, cut the jibberjab and listen to Holiday." or "Hey you in the valley! Get back to the shield wall."
LOL, does your side actually listen?
And that is why you shouldn't schedule a battle right after a new Game of Thrones episode.
Typically like 3 squids will repeat the order a few times and everyone eventually gets the message.
Yeah, it was that one yolo charge by chaos I think - malaclypse or one that started witha K?, sorry its been a while. We did something similar I think when frisians and occitan attacked - great village to defend with good cavalry support and ranged.
and how are you saying you picked up 600 tickets on a defence, that can't happen m8
The art of nerd-herding involves saying the exact same thing over and over again in a charismatic manner, or more often, a manner that doesn't become grating and annoying. It's tough not to be an annoying piece of shit when you're saying the exact same thing repeatedly like its from a script.
I was really good at it once, but I think I probably blow big ole' donkey drangus now. Ya gotta keep in practice with that shit.
The art of nerd-herding involves saying the exact same thing over and over again in a charismatic manner, or more often, a manner that doesn't become grating and annoying. It's tough not to be an annoying piece of shit when you're saying the exact same thing repeatedly like its from a script.
I was really good at it once, but I think I probably blow big ole' donkey drangus now. Ya gotta keep in practice with that shit.
so i am annoying piece of shit rip myself :(
ps: kill the fcc puties scum bag destroy kesh face thanks :)
GOGOGO FOR THE STARK HOUSE!!!!
What? Did you quote the right post? Or are you really going off the deep end again? You are an annoying piece of shit, though no one had actually said that - you came up with that all on your own. There is no FCC and they are not fighting me or my faction. WWII is over and the N azis are not about to invade. You really need to stop living in the past - the only giant alliance on the map is the one you are part of. No one to fight but yourself as FCC 2.0 (though not as classy a version or as aggressive or as clever or adding to the fun of the community or really doing much of anything except waiting for the UIF to tell you exactly what to do)
What? Did you quote the right post? Or are you really going off the deep end again? You are an annoying piece of shit, though no one had actually said that - you came up with that all on your own. There is no FCC and they are not fighting me or my faction. WWII is over and the N azis are not about to invade. You really need to stop living in the past - the only giant alliance on the map is the one you are part of. No one to fight but yourself as FCC 2.0 (though not as classy a version or as aggressive or as clever or adding to the fun of the community or really doing much of anything except waiting for the UIF to tell you exactly what to do)
"I"m done with strat this round." rofl aow fcc LL kesh same thing
What? Did you quote the right post? Or are you really going off the deep end again? You are an annoying piece of shit, though no one had actually said that - you came up with that all on your own. There is no FCC and they are not fighting me or my faction. WWII is over and the N azis are not about to invade. You really need to stop living in the past - the only giant alliance on the map is the one you are part of. No one to fight but yourself as FCC 2.0 (though not as classy a version or as aggressive or as clever or adding to the fun of the community or really doing much of anything except waiting for the UIF to tell you exactly what to do)
What? Did you quote the right post? Or are you really going off the deep end again? You are an annoying piece of shit, though no one had actually said that - you came up with that all on your own. There is no FCC and they are not fighting me or my faction. WWII is over and the N azis are not about to invade. You really need to stop living in the past - the only giant alliance on the map is the one you are part of. No one to fight but yourself as FCC 2.0 (though not as classy a version or as aggressive or as clever or adding to the fun of the community or really doing much of anything except waiting for the UIF to tell you exactly what to do)
"I"m done with strat this round." rofl aow fcc LL kesh same thing
when did LL and FCC become synonymous?
Apparently when you talk to Kesh in TS for more than 2 minutes lol
Apparently when you talk to Kesh in TS for more than 2 minutes lolWhat happened to War Eternal? :O
"I"m done with strat this round." rofl aow fcc LL kesh same thingHosp is with LCO, LCO is with Astralis, Black Company and WoTN are friendly with LCO, LL is with WoTN, WoTN is friendly with Acre.
lol look at the steppes and merc support but hey deny all you want
Our alliances can be seen here: http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/wars-and-alliances-na-strategus-5-%28w-i-p%29/
Hosp is with LCO, LCO is with Astralis, Black Company and WoTN are friendly with LCO, LL is with WoTN, WoTN is friendly with Acre.
Hosp+LCO+Astralis+Black Company+WotN+LL+Acre = What?
Think you are a little off on the whole FCC 2.0 thing gore ;D
why does everyone use fcc as a bad term. We were the best thing to happen to NA strat and this round proves it.
I'm still waiting for the diplomacy re Black Company / Special Ed. WTF's going on there...
I'm still waiting for the diplomacy re Black Company / Special Ed. WTF's going on there...
Here is our diplomacy:
MURDERTRON: Sup bro?
187: nm u
MURDERTRON: Just chillin
187: k
MURDERTRON: U wanna go 2 dat show 2maro?
187: yee
MURDERTRON: OK i'll drive, txt me when ur done with work
187: ok
MURDER: o btw im bored and gonna attack u
187:k
That's actually pretty accurate.
I'm still waiting for the diplomacy re Black Company / Special Ed. WTF's going on there...
Hosp is with LCO, LCO is with Astralis, Black Company and WoTN are friendly with LCO, LL is with WoTN, WoTN is friendly with Acre.
Hosp+LCO+Astralis+Black Company+WotN+LL+Acre = What?
Think you are a little off on the whole FCC 2.0 thing gore ;D
So, are you saying you don't want to go to the show? I bought two tickets man...
Unholy I'm starting to believe you've lied to us and you're actually a writer irl..
I'll be there
An overly-dedicated opponent that you can demonize and call naughty names galvanizes the rest of the community into action against them. I don't really regret not fighting FCC this round, because you can bet that we'd be much more active this round if we did, but if Kesh is in charge of FCC, it's damn nearly a crap-shoot to win. I don't like getting mad at video games, but fighting FCC makes me mad at video games.
But the worst part is I feel compelled by nerd-mandate to do it.
It'd probably be better for the community at large to have FCC, since there would be more battles, more XP, and more activity, but it'd pretty shitty for those pre-determined by the nerd gods to take lead in fighting FCC.(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)
Words cant really describe how lame I think those people are.
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He was using a fief defence against an under preped army as the basis for his statement.
There is no point at trying to cut the totals down or tweak anything. In a battle of attrition ROS is on the wrong side of that battle. The total number of troop farms at their disposal vs their opponents leaves them in a bad position and with over all loses like this, it's even worse.
Hopefully their trade set up is working well for them to ensure a good supply of silver but if it's only mediocre their enemies will be out doing them on that front.
Basically the squids need/needed a good old fashion blitzkrieg but it stalled into trench warfare with their assult on Tilbaut.
They need a change of plans if they want to start doing some serious damage. If they have a solid field advantage because of player quality they should try and shut down the trade lanes.
It's been great to have some activity though, even if it was short lived. Hopefully it'll bounce back.