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Title: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Talanarsis on May 31, 2014, 02:05:51 am
House Stark Declares war on the Republic of Squids!

House Stark has declared war on the Republic of Squids! They have oppressed their peasants, tentacle-raped all of the people they conquer, and attacked poor and innocent traders. They have also attacked, raided, and pillaged the lands of our close friend and ally, The Crusaders of Acre. We not oly fight for the freedom of the oppressed farmers and workers, but we fight to help The Crusaders of Acre!

Winter is Coming
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Switchtense on May 31, 2014, 02:07:07 am
[Winter is Coming[/center]

But.. but... summer wasn't even here yet :(


Oh and also: First! Because I need to point out having no life and being the first to see this thread since I am checking the forums once every couple seconds (It being a coincidence seems fairly unlikely doesn't it)
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: PsychoTwins on May 31, 2014, 02:28:11 am
Yay more Acre Vassals to fight....should be fun  :rolleyes:

Rip strat
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: StonedSteel on May 31, 2014, 02:42:17 am
hmm

im part of house stark...hmm

hmmm

GOODLUCK TALA!!!

*immediately leaves clan*
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Goretooth on May 31, 2014, 03:09:48 am
Yay more Acre Vassals to fight....should be fun  :rolleyes:

Rip strat
squids, LL, BRD and kesh  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Holiday203 on May 31, 2014, 03:09:59 am
Party at the Twins.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: PsychoTwins on May 31, 2014, 03:24:57 am
squids, LL, BRD and kesh  :rolleyes:
Wat

Acre with Astralis and trading with WotN. WotN is with BlackCompany. Astralis is with Occitan. Hosp is with Occitan. Not sure what MB is doing but imma guess they are with one of those.

With strat halfway over, its a nice carebear system NA has got going.

PS: I didnt mention Frisians cuz they dont wanna be mentioned as doing anything  :wink:
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Legs on May 31, 2014, 03:35:41 am
House Stark Declares war on the Republic of Squids!

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Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Bryggan on May 31, 2014, 04:44:31 am
Wat

Acre with Astralis and trading with WotN. WotN is with BlackCompany. Astralis is with Occitan. Hosp is with Occitan. Not sure what MB is doing but imma guess they are with one of those.

With strat halfway over, its a nice carebear system NA has got going.

PS: I didnt mention Frisians cuz they dont wanna be mentioned as doing anything  :wink:

Whoa, Strat's half over and there's only been one war of consequence?  I call Shame on all you factions that aren't fighting.  Go sit in your fiefs counting silver and adjusting your ledgers while the real men send their loyal subjects to die horribly in pointless wars.

And quit whining about everyone ganging up on Squids.  A blockade is a viable tactic, but it pisses people off.  Think Lusitania, people, or the British blockade of Europe that led to the American invasion of Canada.  Blockades piss Americans off.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on May 31, 2014, 05:33:48 am
I mean, Frisia might have done things but we got discouraged from playing because they made economy so much more tough.

I really just don't get it. I'm personally fucking irritated by the fact that the powers that be decided that while this game is in a constant decline in playerbase they should make Strategus LESS accessible. I just don't get it, and I wish they hadn't nerfed economy this hard. Strategus is halfway over, and it's been entirely boring.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: HappyPhantom on May 31, 2014, 06:18:49 am
I mean, Frisia might have done things but we got discouraged from playing because they made economy so much more tough.

I really just don't get it. I'm personally fucking irritated by the fact that the powers that be decided that while this game is in a constant decline in playerbase they should make Strategus LESS accessible. I just don't get it, and I wish they hadn't nerfed economy this hard. Strategus is halfway over, and it's been entirely boring.

Similarly they introduce Conquest as Siege on small pop NA  :?
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: StonedSteel on May 31, 2014, 07:34:38 am
Hey man...i dig conquest

http://imgur.com/a/uk630
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: PsychoTwins on May 31, 2014, 08:08:53 am
Whoa, Strat's half over and there's only been one war of consequence?  I call Shame on all you factions that aren't fighting.  Go sit in your fiefs counting silver and adjusting your ledgers while the real men send their loyal subjects to die horribly in pointless wars.

And quit whining about everyone ganging up on Squids.  A blockade is a viable tactic, but it pisses people off.  Think Lusitania, people, or the British blockade of Europe that led to the American invasion of Canada.  Blockades piss Americans off.

Never said Squids was getting ganged on because we aren't lol. Saying NA is carebearing and that sucks.

Also, only cut off Acre members from trading, not everyone. Was explained in post but the word blockade has a set definition I guess.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Bryggan on May 31, 2014, 08:23:42 am
hmm

im part of house stark...hmm

hmmm

GOODLUCK TALA!!!

*immediately leaves clan*
That was a very wise decision.  If your clan goes to war, the best thing to do is run away.  Of course, you might be friends with the Squids, so it may not be all cowardice.  No, wait, it is cowardice.  I've been on Squid TS and I think they're all awesome guys.  But I'll still fight them.  Cuz that's why we're here.  I suggest you just play native and trade from Tulga to Sargoth.  Just watch out for them looters.

Oh, sorry PsychoTwins.  I thought your first post was sarcastic.  I should have known your bloodlust is only matched by my own.  Cya in the field.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on May 31, 2014, 10:39:36 am
I mean, Frisia might have done things but we got discouraged from playing because they made economy so much more tough.

I really just don't get it. I'm personally fucking irritated by the fact that the powers that be decided that while this game is in a constant decline in playerbase they should make Strategus LESS accessible. I just don't get it, and I wish they hadn't nerfed economy this hard. Strategus is halfway over, and it's been entirely boring.

Yeah strat, as a thing by itself, somehow combines boredom, time consumption, and bad-gay (not good gay). The stray aspect of the game is literally anti-fun. Just waiting for tickets after grinding in another game and walking around with goods for a trade bonus. Its dumb. I appreciate the effort by the devs, but its ham-fisted gamey-ness and artificial complexity are dumb dumb.

I don't know shit about making games, but there are people that do. "critical-distance.com" (experiment with the spelling I'm drunk) curates recent games criticism and might suggest game-making advice that I myself don't feel like drunkenly typing up. All I got now is "mod is def" and "nerf cav".
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: HardRice on May 31, 2014, 04:43:57 pm
Please scale back the prices on all items, it's clear that for the EU side of the map, it did not work in balancing anything, UIF will still roll over everything in their path without too much of a fight.

For the NA side it just killed activity even more because of the effort it takes to gather up a decent army nowadays.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: CALAMARI on May 31, 2014, 06:02:18 pm
The pricing seems fine. A respectable army can be built in a week if people just look at the map, anticipate S&D's, and know where the equipment is discounted. Once you're rolling around with a decent army; the chance of you getting attacked fall dramatically and the snowball starts. Once you reach the snowball point horizon; the gothic plate comes easy.     
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Bryggan on May 31, 2014, 06:20:04 pm
That's the problem- due to previous strats people don't think they can attack until they have a plated army.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: CALAMARI on May 31, 2014, 06:24:10 pm
Hobb, Habb, Ascalon, and Canary are going to have the best armies on the map at their current pace. Daruvian and Thorwald aren't that far behind; I don't buy into that Gerber baby bullshit for even a second. Their carnage on Calradia is coming.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Balikar on June 01, 2014, 12:41:23 am
The pricing seems fine. A respectable army can be built in a week if people just look at the map, anticipate S&D's, and know where the equipment is discounted. Once you're rolling around with a decent army; the chance of you getting attacked fall dramatically and the snowball starts. Once you reach the snowball point horizon; the gothic plate comes easy.   

I disagree.  You can have +0 gear relatively easy, relatively cheap.  It's the loomed items that take a bit of research, and time.   A week is far too little.  Also, what numbers are you discussing?  A 100 man army can be equipped in no time flat, but you can't do anything with a 100 man army.  So what do you consider respectable?  And it's not about the chance of getting attacked... an unarmed, 100 man army can trade freely on NA with little to no threat.  However, we aren't discussing the chance of attack... at least in my opinion.  We're talking about offensive ability, and to take the field offensive, you need numbers, not just gear.  Think about this for a moment.  The maximum you can do troop wise is 24 troops in a day.  to go from 100 to 500 means 400 troops, and that alone puts you close to 20 days (nice round number). 

Now if you flip it around, and look at the topography of the map... you'd have to be in a specific area under a certain faction in order to truly gain the numbers silver wise that you're talking of.  Look at the northern map.  Look at the availability of sell fiefs.  They're sparse.  Look at the amount of buy fiefs, and it becomes apparent you can get more goods in the north than you can sell.  Look at the west side of the map, the steppes.  You have a convoluted mess of factions and a slow travel speed (opposed to plains).  Look at the east side of the map, you have Black Company (Good buy fiefs), but you still have limited sell fiefs.  It gets even worse if you're in a faction that is at war with the Squids.   The south holds a LOT of promise.  However, touch the wrong Dept of Special Education fief, and you're attacked on the spot. 

I give the Squids a lot of grief.  However, their location on the map, and the disruption it causes to trade channels... I have to tip my hat off to them.  It's that disruption that keeps them at the top of the pyramid.  If that trade disruption should ever falter, they'll be toast relatively quick. 

Acre - Teach your traders.  Seriously, I'm all over the map.  I see every other faction but yours, everywhere.  Are your guys just trading amongst yourself?  If so, that's your downfall.   You guys hold the keys to the north.  If you guys don't want to trade, increase your sell fief number.  Drive traffic to the north.  Press the squids on their embargo. 

Anyway, I'm half drunk and prone to rambling. 
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: PsychoTwins on June 01, 2014, 12:44:50 am
Acre does some nice trades with EU which allows 350% and safer travels. They dont have to worry about travelling throughout NA
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Sir_Alec on June 01, 2014, 12:45:32 am
gonna red wedding your asses.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Legs on June 01, 2014, 02:41:57 am
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Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on June 01, 2014, 02:46:49 am
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Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: CALAMARI on June 01, 2014, 02:49:46 am
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Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Holiday203 on June 01, 2014, 03:05:33 am
Looked like a lot of shit gear from AI castle/villages, only thing is I don't remember house stark attacking a castle. Makes me wonder.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Legs on June 01, 2014, 03:15:40 am
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To be fair the Stark/Acre side had about a dozen more mercs and almost twice as many troops.

Acre has more members than AoW/Republic of Squids so they can easily fill a roster, but most of their members are pretty bad at the game and most of our members are pretty good. So they just feed us tickets and waste their advantage. I feel kind of bad for them honestly, fighting on their side doesn't seem very fun.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 01, 2014, 03:23:58 am
Here's the thing though right. It's June.

If Hobb, Habb, Ascalon, Canary, Daruvian and Thorwald have taken this long to build 6 full plate armies... ummm that's a lot of wasted time. The reality is if they come up against +3 mid tear armour with blunt and pierce weapons it's going to be a grind fest and an army that probably cost 1/3rd of the value of those plate armies is going to do enough damage to render the army fucked, win or lose they will still fuck up months of work. Add to that roster support, it's a big gamble that's frankly pointless.

1400 worth of 50-55 point armour for 485800 silver or 2314620 of Milanese with no helmets, gauntlets or boots. If I dump that total amount into an army it's going to have killer gear and some cav support. You've only just paid for your body armour.

This strat, plate is reserved for shock troops. It's the kind of fuck you surprise you add in tiny quantities to a small army. 30 full plate troops and then you only dish it out to your best plate whoring players on your team. Even then you would want to see an insane KD ratio for that fighting force as a direct result of that crap being deployed.

Personally I just can't think of a reason to do it. I would rather spend the money on +3 Abdulla, +3 becs, long bows, and arrows with maybe 50-100 sets of bodkins for "in case shit".

Plate has no place in the field this strat. It's just not worth it, it's purely an epeen thing.

To be fair the Stark/Acre side had about a dozen more mercs and almost twice as many troops.

Acre has more members than AoW/Republic of Squids so they can easily fill a roster, but most of their members are pretty bad at the game and most of our members are pretty good. So they just feed us tickets and waste their advantage. I feel kind of bad for them honestly, fighting on their side doesn't seem very fun.

Sorry to burst your bubble legs but if you go look at the stats page for this strat Squids are actually on the wrong side of the K/D ratio. Or they were about a week and a half ago and I haven't seen any massive victories in that time that would flip the loss the other way.

Squids have done the vast bulk of attacking, 75% (54 in total) of all attacks in the last 12 weeks have been by ROS. ROS has lost 19k of tickets, out of a total of 35k tickets (once you take AI out of the equation. So in all action on the NA side, ROS lost basically 20k and everyone else in every fight they have been in, including those against AI lost 15k.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: PsychoTwins on June 01, 2014, 03:39:27 am
Sorry to burst your bubble legs but if you go look at the stats page for this strat Squids are actually on the wrong side of the K/D ratio. Or they were about a week and a half ago and I haven't seen any massive victories in that time that would flip the loss the other way.

Squids have done the vast bulk of attacking, 75% (54 in total) of all attacks in the last 12 weeks have been by ROS. ROS has lost 19k of tickets, out of a total of 35k tickets (once you take AI out of the equation. So in all action on the NA side, ROS lost basically 20k and everyone else in every fight they have been in, including those against AI lost 15k.

True, but when you attack, especially against Castles like what Astralis is in, you are gunna lose more troops than the defenders. Its obvious.

Now if you look at the battles where ROS gets ATTACKED this strat. ROS lost 1776, while the Attackers lost 3026.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Keshian on June 01, 2014, 04:02:50 am



Sorry to burst your bubble legs but if you go look at the stats page for this strat Squids are actually on the wrong side of the K/D ratio. Or they were about a week and a half ago and I haven't seen any massive victories in that time that would flip the loss the other way.


I would take out the atatcks on the most defensible castle on the map if you are going to use those stats for the basis of your argument and just use all the field battles.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 01, 2014, 04:17:59 am
I would take out the atatcks on the most defensible castle on the map if you are going to use those stats for the basis of your argument and just use all the field battles.

He was using a fief defence against an under preped army as the basis for his statement.

There is no point at trying to cut the totals down or tweak anything. In a battle of attrition ROS is on the wrong side of that battle. The total number of troop farms at their disposal vs their opponents leaves them in a bad position and with over all loses like this, it's even worse.

Hopefully their trade set up is working well for them to ensure a good supply of silver but if it's only mediocre their enemies will be out doing them on that front.

Basically the squids need/needed a good old fashion blitzkrieg but it stalled into trench warfare with their assult on Tilbaut.

They need a change of plans if they want to start doing some serious damage. If they have a solid field advantage because of player quality they should try and shut down the trade lanes.

It's been great to have some activity though, even if it was short lived. Hopefully it'll bounce back.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: PsychoTwins on June 01, 2014, 04:36:47 am
He was using a fief defence against an under preped army as the basis for his statement.

When defenders were down to 150v300 they were fully naked. They managed a 2:1 ratio naked.

There is no point at trying to cut the totals down or tweak anything. In a battle of attrition ROS is on the wrong side of that battle. The total number of troop farms at their disposal vs their opponents leaves them in a bad position and with over all loses like this, it's even worse.

If you think Acre is outfarming us in troops you should take a look at the troops they have in their Castles/Fiefs compared to us. Im sure they have traders running around but i doubt its 2000 man armies.

Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Balikar on June 01, 2014, 05:45:12 am
True, but when you attack, especially against Castles like what Astralis is in, you are gunna lose more troops than the defenders. Its obvious.

Now if you look at the battles where ROS gets ATTACKED this strat. ROS lost 1776, while the Attackers lost 3026.


And that differs on attacks on peasant armies when the attackers are geared... how?  It's called an advantage.  Attacks on Tilbaut are the only battles where the Squids have been at a disadvantage.  It's like saying, 'Hey those don't count because I lost.'
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: PsychoTwins on June 01, 2014, 05:54:41 am
I guess my point isn't getting across well enough.

Defenders will always have a better ratio in strat simply because defending is optimal.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 01, 2014, 06:00:36 am
I guess my point isn't getting across well enough.

Defenders will always have a better ratio in strat simply because defending is optimal.

Wait...no. Depends on the map. Some maps even with equal gear/mercs are just ABSOLUTE SHIT to play defence on. Others are Crazy good(Tilbaut for example).

With Equal Gear, REBACHE is shit to play defence on.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: PsychoTwins on June 01, 2014, 06:04:54 am
True true, but in war. Each faction has at least 1 good defensible fief/castle they will hold well.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 01, 2014, 07:26:01 am
Wrong thread, pull thumb out butt and move along.

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Squids
14390 min

Acre
11278 min

That's the bare min total deployable force pool that's visible on the strat map for Acre and the Squids.

What I don't have real data on is who many players both side regularly get in the server. My anacdotal evidence is that I see a lot of various members of Acre roll through the servers at different times but in general it's the same motley group of squids. If this is correct then it also places Acre in a better position.

You are better off having 60 lightly/moderatly active players than 48 players with 30 being basically in active and 18 being online 24/7.

You can only burn 2 ticks an hour after all so having the 8 main squids having 10k of ticks each doesn't help nearly as much as having 60 people get about 150 ticks a week.

I don't know what the real rate of recruitment is. Would be interesting to find out.

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However it doesn't make a lot of sense to just ram everything into Garrisons because that lets everyone know exactly what's going on. You are better off distributing silver and keeping your forces mobile imo.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Bryggan on June 01, 2014, 07:45:27 am
Truth is the Squids have much better mercs.  And, at the beginning, they had better armour.  Think about it- if their armour can take two hits as opposed to our armour which can get you killed in one hit, its like having double the tickets.  And, as anyone who played NA1, morale has a lot to do with it.  By the time the Squids were naked, our team was kinda depressed.  They were naked, we had monk's robes, which is pretty much the same with the weapons we had.  But when you're on a team that's losing, you lose confidence and you don';t fight as well.

But.... silver for silver, who won?
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Yoshi on June 01, 2014, 11:35:48 am
Truth is the Squids have much better mercs.  And, at the beginning, they had better armour.  Think about it- if their armour can take two hits as opposed to our armour which can get you killed in one hit, its like having double the tickets.  And, as anyone who played NA1, morale has a lot to do with it.  By the time the Squids were naked, our team was kinda depressed.  They were naked, we had monk's robes, which is pretty much the same with the weapons we had.  But when you're on a team that's losing, you lose confidence and you don';t fight as well.

But.... silver for silver, who won?
I think that everyone wins as long as they're having fun!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 01, 2014, 01:14:45 pm
I think that everyone wins as long as they're having fun!  :mrgreen:

Yes you big great my old friend, you are correct though. Fun is the name of the game.
Title: King James of Acre fighting with Squids against Stark...Hope that's an imposter
Post by: Turkhammer on June 01, 2014, 05:21:23 pm
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Title: Re: King James of Acre fighting with Squids against Stark...Hope that's an imposter
Post by: Holiday203 on June 01, 2014, 05:58:14 pm
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He usually fights with us on a regular basis.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Balikar on June 01, 2014, 11:10:25 pm
I guess my point isn't getting across well enough.

Defenders will always have a better ratio in strat simply because defending is optimal.

And I still believe that a similar point could be made that attackers should have an advantage because defenders won't always reinforce.  ;-) 

Devil's Advocate.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Kalam on June 02, 2014, 12:03:45 am
Squids warm the heart of every soul, and keep winter at bay. Winter will not arrive in Narra, but I can predict that their Fall fashion line will involve luxurious coats made of wolf pelts.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on June 02, 2014, 04:37:58 am
Truth is the Squids have much better mercs.  And, at the beginning, they had better armour.  Think about it- if their armour can take two hits as opposed to our armour which can get you killed in one hit, its like having double the tickets.  And, as anyone who played NA1, morale has a lot to do with it.  By the time the Squids were naked, our team was kinda depressed.  They were naked, we had monk's robes, which is pretty much the same with the weapons we had.  But when you're on a team that's losing, you lose confidence and you don';t fight as well.

But.... silver for silver, who won?

Yes and no.  Armor values play a large role but not as much as mercs and command.  Last year the FCC defended Vayejeg against the Gobblins.  They had full plate and we had light Kuyak type stuff.  They had more tickets and we held a 5 man merc advantage (both sides had at least 40.)  We not only beat them but picked up 600 tickets in the process.  Why?  Because some badass cavalry dude kept breaking their spawn.  Because we had some EU archers tearing them to pieces.  They were forced to march all the way from the flags and didn't come as a group.  So we picked them off with ranged until we could overwhelm them with infantry.  In this strat BC fought Frisia in the Northern wars.  We had Leather Scale armor with cheap weapons.  Most of it was used in previous fights.  I don't recall what they had exactly but it was better.  Overall we went close to 1 for 1 before running out of gear.  Armor values are important but mercs make the difference.  Good mercs who fight hard and don't jerk off for ten minutes during the battle are hard to find.  Kudos to Frisia and Astralis.  They fight well. 

Calamari is also a good commander.  He knows when to push and when to pull.  You can't underestimate the value of good command.  It's not just about tactics.  It's about the atmosphere in TS.  Some people create a very negative atmosphere and it destroys morale.  Squids generally have fun and play it loose.  That goes a long way.  My goal in every battle is to frustrate the hell out of the enemy commander.  I want them bitching in TS instead of giving orders.  Before long mercs quit and you gain an advantage. 
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Bryggan on June 02, 2014, 04:55:56 am
Everything you said makes sense.  Sad thing is, I will use it against you.  Being new to strat, I've been sorta following along, trusting the experience of those... well, more experienced.   But squids had an excellent defence, and despite the roster difference seemed to outnumber us everywhere.  First thing you learn in NA1 is divide and conquer.  The best thing a peasant can do is have 5 level 32ers chasing him for several minutes.  Second thing is team work, which is a bitch for a commander to do.  Between people whining about gear or talking about Game of Thrones, keeping chat levels relevant is a bitch.

But, being new to strat as already mentioned, I think I'll try make some changes to the command thingy.  Sorta like Currie did in WWI.  He wasn't a properly trained general, so he did his own shit that made sense.  The British despised him as an upstart and a free thinker, but he won victories.  And, Armagon willing, so will I.

See you in the field, and may the ..... man win (not sure if I'm a better man than you, so I left it blank, really hoping it's me)!
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Balikar on June 02, 2014, 05:40:46 am
Everything you said makes sense.  Sad thing is, I will use it against you.  Being new to strat, I've been sorta following along, trusting the experience of those... well, more experienced.   But squids had an excellent defence, and despite the roster difference seemed to outnumber us everywhere.  First thing you learn in NA1 is divide and conquer.  The best thing a peasant can do is have 5 level 32ers chasing him for several minutes.  Second thing is team work, which is a bitch for a commander to do.  Between people whining about gear or talking about Game of Thrones, keeping chat levels relevant is a bitch.

But, being new to strat as already mentioned, I think I'll try make some changes to the command thingy.  Sorta like Currie did in WWI.  He wasn't a properly trained general, so he did his own shit that made sense.  The British despised him as an upstart and a free thinker, but he won victories.  And, Armagon willing, so will I.

See you in the field, and may the ..... man win (not sure if I'm a better man than you, so I left it blank, really hoping it's me)!

You need to know who the players are.  Some excel at distraction.  As you said, if a guy can keep 6 guys busy chasing him... he takes them off the field.  Some guys excel at support.  For example, an army that runs out of weapons, gets killed.  So gear runners are essential.  Maybe the enemy has a specific weapon that is mowing your forces down... having some guys able to grab those weapons, take them away fromt he enemy, and give them to your own troops is critical.  In sieges like Tilbaut, having guys who can specialize in ladder breaking (Vantage points, swing types, accurate distances) prove vital.  On the other side of Tilbaut, good engineers could make the difference.

It's not just Kills to death that determine the outcome.  NA1 and strat battles are very different beasts.  Shield walls, coordinated fire, and tactics are not to be overlooked. 
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Legs on June 02, 2014, 05:58:48 am
Calamari is also a good commander.  He knows when to push and when to pull.  You can't underestimate the value of good command.  It's not just about tactics.  It's about the atmosphere in TS.  Some people create a very negative atmosphere and it destroys morale.  Squids generally have fun and play it loose.  That goes a long way.

Honestly, there are factions that I have straight-up refused to fight for because of their commanders. When it's apparent that you could probably command people better than they can and you're doing really poorly because of them it's frustrating and just makes you want to quit the battle.

I was really disappointed that Kesh wasn't seriously playing this strat, it felt like his 10th-dan master nerd skills would be going to waste. Although I also understand how much time and effort goes into that sort of stuff.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 02, 2014, 06:31:25 am
Yes and no.  Armor values play a large role but not as much as mercs and command.  Last year the FCC defended Vayejeg against the Gobblins.  They had full plate and we had light Kuyak type stuff.  They had more tickets and we held a 5 man merc advantage (both sides had at least 40.)  We not only beat them but picked up 600 tickets in the process.

but

i never ordered or led an attack on vayejeg

and how are you saying you picked up 600 tickets on a defence, that can't happen m8
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on June 02, 2014, 08:26:31 am
Everything you said makes sense.  Sad thing is, I will use it against you.  Being new to strat, I've been sorta following along, trusting the experience of those... well, more experienced.   But squids had an excellent defence, and despite the roster difference seemed to outnumber us everywhere.  First thing you learn in NA1 is divide and conquer.  The best thing a peasant can do is have 5 level 32ers chasing him for several minutes.  Second thing is team work, which is a bitch for a commander to do.  Between people whining about gear or talking about Game of Thrones, keeping chat levels relevant is a bitch.

But, being new to strat as already mentioned, I think I'll try make some changes to the command thingy.  Sorta like Currie did in WWI.  He wasn't a properly trained general, so he did his own shit that made sense.  The British despised him as an upstart and a free thinker, but he won victories.  And, Armagon willing, so will I.

See you in the field, and may the ..... man win (not sure if I'm a better man than you, so I left it blank, really hoping it's me)!

I'm always happy to help.  All you have to do is fight in various strat battles and take notes.  I fought a lot under Kesh.  He's an excellent Commander.  I've fought some under Arrowaine.  He too is a very good commander.  Most of the time it's about staying calm and being decent to people.  If you compare 2 strat commanders....  one with tons of charisma and no tactical sense.... and the other with no charisma and loads of tactical sense.... guess who wins?  The commander with Charisma wins everytime.  If you combine a minimal tactical sense with the knowledge of what you can and cannot get mercs to do.... then you're good to go. 
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on June 02, 2014, 08:30:13 am
but

i never ordered or led an attack on vayejeg

and how are you saying you picked up 600 tickets on a defence, that can't happen m8

It may not have been you.  Kesh would have to elaborate.  But it was Vayejeg and we did absolutely slaughter the enemy despite inferior gear.  The mercs deserve the credit.  The EU archers were trashing people.  I was never involved in politics last strat so I rarely looked to see who was attacking who.  I just merc'd for the FCC because NA Fallen had like 2-3 people playing. 
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: PsychoTwins on June 02, 2014, 08:32:25 am
Did i just witness a triple post.  :evil:
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Keshian on June 02, 2014, 08:42:32 am
It may not have been you.  Kesh would have to elaborate.  But it was Vayejeg and we did absolutely slaughter the enemy despite inferior gear.  The mercs deserve the credit.  The EU archers were trashing people.  I was never involved in politics last strat so I rarely looked to see who was attacking who.  I just merc'd for the FCC because NA Fallen had like 2-3 people playing.

Yeah, it was that one yolo charge by chaos I think - malaclypse or one that started witha  K?, sorry its been a while.  We did something similar I think when frisians and occitan attacked - great village to defend with good cavalry support and ranged.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 02, 2014, 10:43:15 am
Yeah, it was that one yolo charge by chaos I think - malaclypse or one that started witha  K?, sorry its been a while.  We did something similar I think when frisians and occitan attacked - great village to defend with good cavalry support and ranged.

So remember S2 when Chaos and Hosp were going at it. It was ball breaking attacking Chaos. 5 battles in a row of just getting smashed on the offensive, they were doing everything better on the ground. It was brutal, moral was always shot to shit and in the end we just had this same group showing up that could handle the beating. A couple of people cracked and left Hosp over the fights. In the end though, the grind won out. Chaos just didn't have the numbers and Hosp Soviet zerged them. But god damn that one small group of villages in the north just flipped back and forward for months.

Fuck this game is crazy, what are we doing!
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Balikar on June 02, 2014, 02:32:11 pm
Did i just witness a triple post.  :evil:

It's good for the post count.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Balikar on June 02, 2014, 02:32:38 pm
So remember S2 when Chaos and Hosp were going at it. It was ball breaking attacking Chaos. 5 battles in a row of just getting smashed on the offensive, they were doing everything better on the ground. It was brutal, moral was always shot to shit and in the end we just had this same group showing up that could handle the beating. A couple of people cracked and left Hosp over the fights. In the end though, the grind won out. Chaos just didn't have the numbers and Hosp Soviet zerged them. But god damn that one small group of villages in the north just flipped back and forward for months.

Fuck this game is crazy, what are we doing!

This strat, not much.  Most are on the sidelines.  Or following coat tails. 
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Balikar on June 02, 2014, 02:33:00 pm
It's good for the post count.

See?  Triple post!  Weeee.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 02, 2014, 02:47:31 pm
I plused because diplomacy yo.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: CALAMARI on June 02, 2014, 09:49:22 pm
Calamari is also a good commander.

I'm just the guy that says, "hey, cut the jibberjab and listen to Holiday." or "Hey you in the valley! Get back to the shield wall."
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Batuhan_of on June 03, 2014, 08:56:59 am
GoodLuck
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Turkhammer on June 03, 2014, 05:13:09 pm
I'm just the guy that says, "hey, cut the jibberjab and listen to Holiday." or "Hey you in the valley! Get back to the shield wall."

LOL, does your side actually listen?
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Holiday203 on June 03, 2014, 06:14:14 pm
LOL, does your side actually listen?

When I need them to yes.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Quiksilver on June 03, 2014, 06:38:07 pm
Typically like 3 squids will repeat the order a few times and everyone eventually gets the message.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Bryggan on June 03, 2014, 07:09:22 pm
And that is why you shouldn't schedule a battle right after a new Game of Thrones episode.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: MURDERTRON on June 03, 2014, 07:34:25 pm
And that is why you shouldn't schedule a battle right after a new Game of Thrones episode.

It was during
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on June 03, 2014, 10:45:36 pm
Typically like 3 squids will repeat the order a few times and everyone eventually gets the message.

The art of nerd-herding involves saying the exact same thing over and over again in a charismatic manner, or more often, a manner that doesn't become grating and annoying. It's tough not to be an annoying piece of shit when you're saying the exact same thing repeatedly like its from a script.

I was really good at it once, but I think I probably blow big ole' donkey drangus now. Ya gotta keep in practice with that shit.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Canary on June 04, 2014, 02:23:56 am
Yeah, it was that one yolo charge by chaos I think - malaclypse or one that started witha  K?, sorry its been a while.  We did something similar I think when frisians and occitan attacked - great village to defend with good cavalry support and ranged.

If it was us we would not have been in plate, which was the point of the original story.

and how are you saying you picked up 600 tickets on a defence, that can't happen m8

The message his story was going for may be apt, but the details all seem completely incorrect.


The art of nerd-herding involves saying the exact same thing over and over again in a charismatic manner, or more often, a manner that doesn't become grating and annoying. It's tough not to be an annoying piece of shit when you're saying the exact same thing repeatedly like its from a script.

I was really good at it once, but I think I probably blow big ole' donkey drangus now. Ya gotta keep in practice with that shit.

Yeah. Personally, my life is much better for not having to do it so much anymore.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: arowaine on June 04, 2014, 07:23:33 am
The art of nerd-herding involves saying the exact same thing over and over again in a charismatic manner, or more often, a manner that doesn't become grating and annoying. It's tough not to be an annoying piece of shit when you're saying the exact same thing repeatedly like its from a script.

I was really good at it once, but I think I probably blow big ole' donkey drangus now. Ya gotta keep in practice with that shit.

so i am annoying piece of shit rip myself :(

ps: kill the fcc puties scum bag destroy kesh face thanks :)

GOGOGO FOR THE STARK HOUSE!!!!
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Keshian on June 04, 2014, 05:21:28 pm
so i am annoying piece of shit rip myself :(

ps: kill the fcc puties scum bag destroy kesh face thanks :)

GOGOGO FOR THE STARK HOUSE!!!!


What?  Did you quote the right post?  Or are you really going off the deep end again? You are an annoying piece of shit, though no one had actually said that - you came up with that all on your own.  There is no FCC and they are not fighting me or my faction.  WWII is over and the N  azis are not about to invade.  You really need to stop living in the past - the only giant alliance on the map is the one you are part of.  No one to fight but yourself as FCC 2.0 (though not as classy a version or as aggressive or as clever or adding to the fun of the community or really doing much of anything except waiting for the UIF to tell you exactly what to do)
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Chosen1 on June 04, 2014, 06:24:09 pm
What?  Did you quote the right post?  Or are you really going off the deep end again? You are an annoying piece of shit, though no one had actually said that - you came up with that all on your own.  There is no FCC and they are not fighting me or my faction.  WWII is over and the N  azis are not about to invade.  You really need to stop living in the past - the only giant alliance on the map is the one you are part of.  No one to fight but yourself as FCC 2.0 (though not as classy a version or as aggressive or as clever or adding to the fun of the community or really doing much of anything except waiting for the UIF to tell you exactly what to do)

lmao
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: HardRice on June 04, 2014, 06:41:21 pm
Kesh, I'm pretty sure arowaine was making a joke about commanding battles.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Balikar on June 04, 2014, 09:49:45 pm

What?  Did you quote the right post?  Or are you really going off the deep end again? You are an annoying piece of shit, though no one had actually said that - you came up with that all on your own.  There is no FCC and they are not fighting me or my faction.  WWII is over and the N  azis are not about to invade.  You really need to stop living in the past - the only giant alliance on the map is the one you are part of.  No one to fight but yourself as FCC 2.0 (though not as classy a version or as aggressive or as clever or adding to the fun of the community or really doing much of anything except waiting for the UIF to tell you exactly what to do)

So much Hate Kesh.  There seem to be two big blocks this strat round.  AoW and their allies constitute one block.  The Neutral Giants constitute the other. 
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Goretooth on June 04, 2014, 10:35:50 pm

What?  Did you quote the right post?  Or are you really going off the deep end again? You are an annoying piece of shit, though no one had actually said that - you came up with that all on your own.  There is no FCC and they are not fighting me or my faction.  WWII is over and the N  azis are not about to invade.  You really need to stop living in the past - the only giant alliance on the map is the one you are part of.  No one to fight but yourself as FCC 2.0 (though not as classy a version or as aggressive or as clever or adding to the fun of the community or really doing much of anything except waiting for the UIF to tell you exactly what to do)
"I"m done with strat this round." rofl aow fcc LL kesh same thing
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on June 04, 2014, 11:20:09 pm

What?  Did you quote the right post?  Or are you really going off the deep end again? You are an annoying piece of shit, though no one had actually said that - you came up with that all on your own.  There is no FCC and they are not fighting me or my faction.  WWII is over and the N  azis are not about to invade.  You really need to stop living in the past - the only giant alliance on the map is the one you are part of.  No one to fight but yourself as FCC 2.0 (though not as classy a version or as aggressive or as clever or adding to the fun of the community or really doing much of anything except waiting for the UIF to tell you exactly what to do)

shit tyrone get it together
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: The_Slim on June 04, 2014, 11:31:04 pm
"I"m done with strat this round." rofl aow fcc LL kesh same thing

Long hair don't care
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Holiday203 on June 04, 2014, 11:31:46 pm
Our alliances can be seen here: http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/wars-and-alliances-na-strategus-5-%28w-i-p%29/
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: BaleOhay on June 04, 2014, 11:34:38 pm
when did LL and FCC become synonymous?
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: The_Slim on June 04, 2014, 11:37:04 pm
when did LL and FCC become synonymous?

Apparently when you talk to Kesh in TS for more than 2 minutes lol
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Goretooth on June 04, 2014, 11:49:50 pm
Apparently when you talk to Kesh in TS for more than 2 minutes lol

lol look at the steppes and merc support but hey deny all you want
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: BaleOhay on June 05, 2014, 12:05:34 am
pretty sure when hosp were being attacked I merced for them and would again if aztek asked me. does not mean fcc and hosp are in league with eachother
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: sJimmy on June 05, 2014, 12:15:27 am
Apparently when you talk to Kesh in TS for more than 2 minutes lol
What happened to War Eternal? :O
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: PsychoTwins on June 05, 2014, 12:20:55 am
"I"m done with strat this round." rofl aow fcc LL kesh same thing
Hosp is with LCO, LCO is with Astralis, Black Company and WoTN are friendly with LCO, LL is with WoTN, WoTN is friendly with Acre.

Hosp+LCO+Astralis+Black Company+WotN+LL+Acre = What?

Think you are a little off on the whole FCC 2.0 thing gore ;D

Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: The_Slim on June 05, 2014, 12:33:26 am

lol look at the steppes and merc support but hey deny all you want

We are helping Sjimmmy because hes been a close bro for years and asked us if we wanted too...  glad could see your true colors though dickhead

No offense to Hospitaller though always liked Hospitaller and still do, but your an ass
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Balikar on June 05, 2014, 01:03:24 am
Our alliances can be seen here: http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/wars-and-alliances-na-strategus-5-%28w-i-p%29/

Outdated.  Knights of Mars, as an example, is now your vassal.

 
Hosp is with LCO, LCO is with Astralis, Black Company and WoTN are friendly with LCO, LL is with WoTN, WoTN is friendly with Acre.

Hosp+LCO+Astralis+Black Company+WotN+LL+Acre = What?

Think you are a little off on the whole FCC 2.0 thing gore ;D

Not very accurate either.  Friendly doesn't mean allied. 
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: BaleOhay on June 05, 2014, 02:06:52 am
why does everyone use fcc as a bad term. We were the best thing to happen to NA strat and this round proves it.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on June 05, 2014, 02:25:13 am
why does everyone use fcc as a bad term. We were the best thing to happen to NA strat and this round proves it.

An overly-dedicated opponent that you can demonize and call naughty names galvanizes the rest of the community into action against them. I don't really regret not fighting FCC this round, because you can bet that we'd be much more active this round if we did, but if Kesh is in charge of FCC, it's damn nearly a crap-shoot to win. I don't like getting mad at video games, but fighting FCC makes me mad at video games.

But the worst part is I feel compelled by nerd-mandate to do it.

It'd probably be better for the community at large to have FCC, since there would be more battles, more XP, and more activity, but it'd pretty shitty for those pre-determined by the nerd gods to take lead in fighting FCC.

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Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: HappyPhantom on June 05, 2014, 02:29:01 am
I'm still waiting for the diplomacy re Black Company / Special Ed. WTF's going on there...
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: HardRice on June 05, 2014, 03:50:16 am
I'm still waiting for the diplomacy re Black Company / Special Ed. WTF's going on there...

I got caught before I could make it to a fief to sell all the excess shit I stole from Bullet earlier, pretty much, so now I have about 3k soldiers worth of gear (damn nice gear too) but only 900 tickets

The dude had 1000 goddamn scythes. Why the fuck would you keep 1000 scythes on any army???

Really what it comes down to is that gforce is going to be absolutely and utterly fucked. I'm going to walk in on them showering and make them drop AND!!!pick up their goddamn soap because Jesus Christ people, we live in the 21st century, you can't just drop your goddamn soap on the ground. That's called littering and it's against the fucking law goddamn it. People these days, theyre a bunch of cock mongreling shitsocks.

This is why you dont post after long periods of time with no sleep
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: MURDERTRON on June 05, 2014, 04:38:14 am
I'm still waiting for the diplomacy re Black Company / Special Ed. WTF's going on there...

Here is our diplomacy:

MURDERTRON: Sup bro?
187: nm u
MURDERTRON: Just chillin
187: k
MURDERTRON: U wanna go 2 dat show 2maro?
187: yee
MURDERTRON: OK i'll drive, txt me when ur done with work
187: ok
MURDER: o btw im bored and gonna attack u
187:k
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: HardRice on June 05, 2014, 04:41:45 am
Here is our diplomacy:

MURDERTRON: Sup bro?
187: nm u
MURDERTRON: Just chillin
187: k
MURDERTRON: U wanna go 2 dat show 2maro?
187: yee
MURDERTRON: OK i'll drive, txt me when ur done with work
187: ok
MURDER: o btw im bored and gonna attack u
187:k

That's actually pretty accurate.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Bryggan on June 05, 2014, 04:55:39 am
I wish all diplomacy was like that.  Maybe it would be if three quarters of the players never, ever get bored of trading and counting silver.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: MURDERTRON on June 05, 2014, 05:01:45 am
That's actually pretty accurate.

So, are you saying you don't want to go to the show?  I bought two tickets man...
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on June 05, 2014, 08:48:05 am
I'm still waiting for the diplomacy re Black Company / Special Ed. WTF's going on there...



It's all good.  We're up for a fight. 
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on June 05, 2014, 09:28:28 am
Hosp is with LCO, LCO is with Astralis, Black Company and WoTN are friendly with LCO, LL is with WoTN, WoTN is friendly with Acre.

Hosp+LCO+Astralis+Black Company+WotN+LL+Acre = What?

Think you are a little off on the whole FCC 2.0 thing gore ;D

That's quite a stretch.  You might as well tie in Kesh and AoW lol.  We were FCC last strat.  That included Kesh and AoW.  So I guess the new super alliance is Kesh, AoW, LCO, Astralis, Black Company, Wardens of the North, LL, and Acre lol.  Kesh and Arrowaine have joined forces to fool everybody lol.  Did I miss anyone?  I'm sure we can tie every clan in strat somehow or another. 

As far as WoTN.......We are very friendly.  They are the only clan I refuse to merc against.  I've become personal friends with Jona, Finnian, and Thalion.  They're nice people.  But we left for a reason.  We wanted to go our own way.  We wanted to build up and be aggressive.  WoTN are new to strat and they deserve a chance to play the game before some asshole comes in to convince them to never play again.  We knew that staying with them would lead to different paths.  A lot of people hate Fallen/BC and we have more enemies than friends.  I would still do my best to protect them.  People talk about strat being dead.  Maybe part of the reason is super huge factions attack smallish ones.  You gotta give clans like WoTN a chance to survive or this game will get smaller and smaller every year.  That's why Druzina smashes EU.  They are huge.  And they snuff out all competition.  Who the fuck wants to play that?  Take a wild guess how many non-Druzina players actually give it a legit shot next year......  Maybe 3/4 of their current numbers?  Maybe 1/2?  How long will it be until Druzina wipes EU strat within the first month lol.  Do we really want that shit in NA?

In reality BC's too small to make an impact.  WoTN are too new.  Acre is turtled up in the Northwest.  And I really don't know about the rest of the clans.  I think the increased gear costs and reduced Mega Factions made it a lot harder to fight in NA.  It slowed the early stage to a crawl.  Hell we still haven't recovered from the Northern Wars.  But S&D is ticking up across the map.  Shit's going to start happening. 
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: HardRice on June 05, 2014, 01:03:50 pm
Unholy I'm starting to believe you've lied to us and you're actually a writer irl..

So, are you saying you don't want to go to the show?  I bought two tickets man...

I'll be there
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Keshian on June 05, 2014, 05:17:51 pm
I feel like everyone is going to show up and then both tses will break into song and face off like Grease.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Voncrow on June 05, 2014, 05:24:19 pm
I always thought the Lannisters were slimy, and now we know it to be true.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: MURDERTRON on June 05, 2014, 11:36:48 pm
Unholy I'm starting to believe you've lied to us and you're actually a writer irl..

I'll be there

Lol gg no re
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Dutchydave on June 06, 2014, 03:09:23 am
An overly-dedicated opponent that you can demonize and call naughty names galvanizes the rest of the community into action against them. I don't really regret not fighting FCC this round, because you can bet that we'd be much more active this round if we did, but if Kesh is in charge of FCC, it's damn nearly a crap-shoot to win. I don't like getting mad at video games, but fighting FCC makes me mad at video games.

But the worst part is I feel compelled by nerd-mandate to do it.

It'd probably be better for the community at large to have FCC, since there would be more battles, more XP, and more activity, but it'd pretty shitty for those pre-determined by the nerd gods to take lead in fighting FCC.

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Well thanks I guess, I got to say it was extremely fun fighting FCC last strat, It was a bit frustrating trying to get a roster against them as FCC had a mortgage on the merc pool. But there is no doubt I tried my hardest to get a roster everytime by offering huge prize pools and as long as I felt I had done everything I could then I felt happy. There where some really epic battles won against FCC lead by Arrowaine, Sandy or myself and there what made it all worth while I guess. My favorite 2 battles from strat4 would have to be the one lead by Arrowaine when we all did the victory snake dance at the end and another lead by Sandy when we took a village(forget which village) against the odds and I stood on top of the archers nest I built watching 400 odd tickets getting spawn raped. My favorite battle I lead was defending an open field battle against FCC where we set up a forward base on top of a big hill and fought FCC running up the hill all map. Yup we had a massive advantage due to the map and slaughtered them as we should of.

Unfortunately the incident with Tydeus this strat was extremely lame and really I cant understand how strat admins should be participating anyway. Due to this incident I doubt I will ever bother building armies again as these conditions are a joke. Like ive lost that much interest I havnt even looked at the up coming battles for months, last battle I was in was when Arrowaine asked me to help when they took an AI castle. Lol im sure im the only person who has issues about strat admins playing in strat and getting themselves into controversial situations where they profit. Words cant really describe how lame I think those people are.
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: HappyPhantom on June 06, 2014, 03:47:32 am
Words cant really describe how lame I think those people are.

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Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Rico on June 06, 2014, 05:22:51 am
Tasukete onegai :oops:

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Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Dutchydave on June 06, 2014, 01:55:08 pm
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Did they bridge the gap between me caring about strat? Impossible
Title: Re: House Stark declares war on the Republic of Squids
Post by: Holiday203 on June 13, 2014, 10:10:51 pm
He was using a fief defence against an under preped army as the basis for his statement.

There is no point at trying to cut the totals down or tweak anything. In a battle of attrition ROS is on the wrong side of that battle. The total number of troop farms at their disposal vs their opponents leaves them in a bad position and with over all loses like this, it's even worse.

Hopefully their trade set up is working well for them to ensure a good supply of silver but if it's only mediocre their enemies will be out doing them on that front.

Basically the squids need/needed a good old fashion blitzkrieg but it stalled into trench warfare with their assult on Tilbaut.

They need a change of plans if they want to start doing some serious damage. If they have a solid field advantage because of player quality they should try and shut down the trade lanes.

It's been great to have some activity though, even if it was short lived. Hopefully it'll bounce back.

You know nothing jon snow.