Oh fuck.
That is some of the worst timing related issues that could happen. :/
If she liked you as you say it, give it some time. The "I don't know" Must be because of what happened, and not because of you.
(Unless you are hiding something, that is :twisted:)
I think the i don't know could be because you guys work together.... That's a big NO man and she's probably thinking about that
Yeah I knew that going in, but I couldn't help myself... First time we met (around the 6th of this month) I took one look at her and thought to myself, "damn this chick is hot I don't even have a chance, and I'm not even going to try" but then she was flirty and social constantly... asking me if I had a gf asking me about past girlfriends and what kind of chicks i'm into.... all kinds of crap. So I went for it... bought her a teddy and flowers for valentines, reservations at a nice resort on the beach... etc..I can tell we're from a different generation but from my experience when you go out with someone you see a lot (example me at school and a girl i took out or an ex in the same class) can become very awkward. I really recommend to look for girls outside of work and let this slide off. Remember more girls in the world then men! If you 2 really click keep going at it and give it time like you said. Overall don't stress about it :D
Definitely should have kept it as work flirting but no going back now... fucking girls. :mad:
Remember, she can't say no when shes dead
On a second thought, did she say something to you like
" I need time to think this over " etc?
If so, that could be really fucking bad. Sorry for demoralizing but that's from experience, mine and from people around me.
Most of the time fems say this because they want to figure out in what way to say they don't like you, but don't break your heart in the process.
An "I don't know" isn't that easy to understand, that's up to you to decide
That's some rough shit :/
At the risk of sounding preachy: Maybe try not to get totally hammered next time you're out with a/for a girl? :P
True that. definitely should have stopped the drinks after dinner... Did get pretty hammered. :?
Either way it would probably be best if you tried to ignore her for a couple of weeks, and if you can, flirt with other females a bit in front of her. If you want to find out if/what you did wrong, talk about your date with someone else while she's near and mention a big blunder you made, but don't say what specificially and that it's too embarassing to talk about. Maybe she will chime in, then.
- Spent close to 200$ over the course of the night on dinner and drinks just to get crushed.
- Snuggle and fall asleep.
No she really didn't want to fuck.
The cuddling was one sided... I couldn't help myself and she was just trying to go to sleep.
Trust me... I would have, if I could have lol
She mentioned earlier that night that I should sleep in a separate room that was furnished because she couldn't fall asleep with a dude in the bed, but when we went to go to sleep she didn't even mention in so we both went into her bed. I really don't think she wanted to screw, I'd bet monies on it.
Spent close to 200$ over the course of the night on dinner and drinks just to get crushed. :(
Either she wanted to fuck and you didn't bring it, or you made some serious mistake you can't remember. Could also be she's a cold hearted bitch that only wanted to see if she can catch you. Or she wants to establish dominance because she noticed your strong interest.
Either way it would probably be best if you tried to ignore her for a couple of weeks, and if you can, flirt with other females a bit in front of her. If you want to find out if/what you did wrong, talk about your date with someone else while she's near and mention a big blunder you made, but don't say what specificially and that it's too embarassing to talk about. Maybe she will chime in, then.
That's just not right... How old is she? I missed that part somehow.
It just seems to be strange that you were kissing and doing all that foreplay, without having sex... In my personal, limited experience, girls of your age do not longer consider their vagina to be a sacred artifact. Is she much hotter than you? ( don't get me wrong, not trying to insult or anything, just honestly trying to read this situation correctly ) She could be sort of obliged to have sex after all the time and money you have invested in her, but if she was not interested in you as long term partner - you just missed a chance to get laid.
Other than that, it could be any random reason, but in any case, there is nothing to do now. You asked her out - she said no. Need to play cool now, use opportunities to engage in small-talk, but be as chilled as possible. That's how i would handle this...
EDIT:
oh... Missed that part.. :( Well, makes it sort of much worse. I would just let it go in this case. Seems like there is nothing to catch here...
Yeah I would say she is much hotter than me and out of my league, that was my first impression when we first met. See for yourself:
(crappy phone pictures... I just upgraded to a much better phone the day after lol.)(click to show/hide)
I also think chadz hit the nail on the head... I do think I came off as too needy once I hit like the 4th drink.
She also said before valentines day that she couldn't have a boyfriend that doesn't speak her primary language: japanese. Which I don't speak. So I definitely don't get any points there either.
Gonna try to play hard to get but I'm probably just gonna come off as depressed and quiet :oops:
I wouldn't say she's out of your league at all. that japanese stuff is bullshit (i think). women say all kind of shit that they look for in a man, but attraction is not a choice. just make sure you're less drunk than the girl in the future :wink:#establishingbetterrelationswiththecommunity
I wouldn't say she's out of your league at all. that japanese stuff is bullshit (i think). women say all kind of shit that they look for in a man, but attraction is not a choice. just make sure you're less drunk than the girl in the future :wink:
#establishingbetterrelationswiththecommunity
Are you sure it was a good idea to post those pictures?
Are you sure it was a good idea to post those pictures?
It's generally not a good idea to post pictures on the internet, especially of other people, without their consent.
What do you mean she's cute? The back of her head is cute?
It happens to everyone sometimes Hans. Best of luck.No, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't.
im a 18 yr old girl
you need to be blunt with her, she clearly wanted the D, but because estrogen makes us confused, she didnt really know how to tell you this without coming off as a total slut whore.
next time you see her, scream at her "I want you to suck my dick!" and then force your seed into her, whether she wants it or not. dont worry she'll understand that mating with you, (the dominant gender). was the right and natural thing to do.
Still it doesn't explain why she's acting like such a cuntbag.
Thanks, crossed my mind it could be something like that.
Still it doesn't explain why she's acting like such a cuntbag. She could at least talk to me and tell me she's not into me or something along those lines... instead of acting like I completely betrayed her, avoiding me completely and closing me out to any conversation or contact. Sure is making my job a miserable affair.
Or just stop trying to date altogether and save a lot of money and hurt feelings. And you get extra time to do something less gay and less boring.This sound so hurt and lonely. :cry:
BEEP BOOP IF_INPUT 200 DOLLAR OR_GREATER_THAN; THEN OUTPUT_EQUAL SEX; RUN RELATIONSHIP.XML
She doesn't owe him sex (or anything else for that matter) y'know...
This sound so hurt and lonely. :cry:I'm sure it sounds hurt and lonely if you're looking at it from the perspective of someone who needs another person to feel complete. If you look at it objectively, though, who is more fucked up -- the person who is fine by himself, or the one that gets "lonely" and depressed without someone else being there to, I don't even know, prop him up or something? I know which is easier logistically.
there there Xant.
I'm sure it sounds hurt and lonely if you're looking at it from the perspective of someone who needs another person to feel complete. If you look at it objectively, though, who is more fucked up -- the person who is fine by himself, or the one that gets "lonely" and depressed without someone else being there to, I don't even know, prop him up or something? I know which is easier logistically.You just went full fedora :P
Now, I know humans are very predisposed to finding a mate and mating thanks to evolution, but apart from that, relationships really are more trouble than they're worth. There's no need to go along with the programming of the blind idiot god.
I'm sure it sounds hurt and lonely if you're looking at it from the perspective of someone who needs another person to feel complete. If you look at it objectively, though, who is more fucked up -- the person who is fine by himself, or the one that gets "lonely" and depressed without someone else being there to, I don't even know, prop him up or something? I know which is easier logistically.
Now, I know humans are very predisposed to finding a mate and mating thanks to evolution, but apart from that, relationships really are more trouble than they're worth. There's no need to go along with the programming of the blind idiot god.
Now, I know humans are very predisposed to finding a mate and mating thanks to evolution, but apart from that, MY relationships really are more trouble than they're worth. There's no need to go along with the programming of the blind idiot god.
This is now fixed to only perspective you get on this topic(or can you show us some legitimate studies that will proof your point other than "I have a friend who have simmilar") and this is also what makes it sound sad.Relationships, unfortunately, are not rocket science. Turn on the TV, talk to your friends, look at the mountains of folk wisdom, read a book, a magazine, an interview -- the world is full of relationships. Most of them share the same qualities. When you've heard one relationship story, you've heard them all. Even this thread is proof of how stereotypical they tend to be. Whether you consider them to be more trouble than they're worth, of course -- well, YMMV. But I can confidently say that you would be better off if you didn't worry about them at all.
I actually spend 8 years of studying them first as psychologist now as psychotherapist and you Xant are wrong when you say that they share same qualities. There is even no point in explaining it becouse this statement is only from your emotional point of view nothing more. You clearly read books, magazines and shet and look for simmilarities to your own perspective. Evidence against this statement is crushing, people create very many diffrent romantic relationships.Nope, you're wrong. Those two papers do not disprove anything I said.
http://psp.sagepub.com/content/21/3/267.short
http://www.people.vcu.edu/~jldavis/readings/Knee_1998_implicit_theories.pdf
I see no reason to quote more. So next time when you say that relationships share same pattern or whatever finish sentence by "according to me".
Yes ofc i have emotional point of view thats why i took part in this topic anyway. Im fascinated in human complexity and i find it ignorant and agressive towards science when someone deny it. Those are my emotions while you just simply deny evidence. I guess you cant accept information about relationship complexity becouse you are simply avoiding entering relations and you think you have "rational" reasons. You have emotional reasons and you deny rational thinking on this topic.I didn't know I had denied evidence. Which evidence is that?
Thats all you didnt even try to start polemic post.
P.S
You are also right in your point of view prolly you enter relations and see relations that are not very satisfactionary for both partners(so your point of view is a fact to some extend) . This is a type of relation but definitelly not EVERY.
Nope, you're wrong. Those two papers do not disprove anything I said.
Also, since you wasted eight years of your life, I'm pretty sure you're the one speaking from an emotional point of view, not me.
I provided 2 links with dozens of researches about romantic relationships and types of it. Prooving that there is a huge variety of those. You said only "Nope" about it and answered to this post withI asked you how either of those disproves or contradicts what I said. Neither of them does. Obviously all relationships are not 100% identical. I thought that much was clear without saying.
But you are right im wrong. I thought that definition of rational used in this topic means counter to individual emotion based opinion hence intersubjective verifiable so i provided scientific data to proof my point. Yet you said that studying this for 8 years is a waste of time (contrary to rocket science i believe) so you dont show much respect to this branch of science. This brings me to conclusion that you are the only one who can decide if sth is rational and worth studying or not so definition of rational thinking in this topic is "Xant way of thinking".You provided two research papers and claimed they proved your point without saying how exactly they're supposed to do that.
This explains mayby why you think that entering a relationship will end up in you being exploited by your partner.
Have best valentines day ever on a first date with a hottie I really like. She seemed to be having a great time. Never looking at the clock or her cellphone and being flirty all night long, she even invites me into her house to drink more and pass out in her bed. snuggle and fall asleep. 8-)(click to show/hide)
edit: pictures added on third page.
Also, for those that happen to be single (or don't care), get the Tinder app, it's the best thing since sliced bread.
doesnt that thing use facebook? didnt think you as a social media guy : )fake profile works just fine :wink:
She also said before valentines day that she couldn't have a boyfriend that doesn't speak her primary language: japanese. Which I don't speak. So I definitely don't get any points there either.
Also, for those that happen to be single (or don't care), get the Tinder app, it's the best thing since sliced bread.
frank can u right a book on dating and sex then give it to me?
Yes
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Chapter 1 don't do what Frank does. Use a fucking condom.
Chapter 2 It's all about the basics. Clean your self regularly, work out, wear okay slightly fashionable clothing, learn to talk good like because wit and charm will get you everywhere... often, and vigorously.
Chapter 3 Dealing with unwanted pregnancy
Chapter 4 so you've got the clap
Chapter 5 Yep, that's incurable.
Chapter 6 So, you realize you can no longer feel love
Chapter 7 There is no conceivable way you'll ever really be able to remember how many PEOPLE you've slept with... Yep, you think at least one of them was a dude.
Chapter 8 So you're getting older, looks like it's all over. Oh wait, what's that in the distance. Ah thank god, it's all the girls with daddy issues.
Chapter 9 Money can easily buy blow jobs. But why pay when they are free and plentiful.
Chapter 10 Back to the back packers
Chapter 11 Oh god, that really is incurable.
Chapter 12 Thank fuck they found a cure.
Chapter 13 Syphilis really does rot your brain.
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Schizo strikes again.
relationships really are more trouble than they're worth.