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- Most EU mele players suck except for like 5%, the rest are either shitty shielders or gay range
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EU probably has more excellent melee players than NA has players :D
- Most EU mele players suck except for like 5%, the rest are either shitty shielders or gay range
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EU probably has more excellent melee players than NA has players :D
Haha guys I think ur miss understanding. My opinion is as a majority NA has better mele but as a smaller population, eu kills NA . I guess quality over quantity. There's more
Shit mele in eu, but for the ones that are good are so much better than any NA. Also I think shielders are great mele it's one of the hardest classes.
Also archers in eu are much better than archers in NA except murchad In NA he's to good.
No one shit talks in EU_1 like in NA_1 <------ Give it time and you will learn :lol:Nah, you guys really don't compare. The difference is night and day.
And I thought Bjord played 1h w/o shield :o
Nah, you guys really don't compare. The difference is night and day.
I can already predict how this thread will evolve and die
- No one shit talks in EU_1 like in NA_1you say most aren't very good, except for 6%, that in itself is just random, where did you figure this out?
- Most EU mele players are not very good except for like 6%, the rest are very good shielders, range, and 2h/pole.
PS. Best Build 15-27 5 ps 4 shield 9 wm 9 athletics lvl 33 170 wpf 1h , 133 2h, 133 pole GGWhy is this relevant in anyway? i figure this whole thread is a troll thread.
- No one shit talks in EU_1 like in NA_1
An exception from this rule are the dimwits from the Benelux or Scandinavian (and maybe even Balkan) countries. The Native language is so weak there that American movies or series aren't redubbed like in real European countries. They are simply subtitled. Even for the feeble-minded this results in a generally high level of English, giving them enough confidence to polute Warband chat with their thoughts.
That is explained by my ancient "below the radar" theorem.
Assuming that the percentage of EU and NA retards is about the same in this game, many EU retards stay below the radar because of the language barrier. Especially if they come from European countries that have a dominant Native tongue like Italy, France, Spain or Germany. Same with Russians. Scumbags from there do not feel proficient enough in English to start rants or retardisms in chat - they have their hands full with mastering their own language in the first place. NA assclowns do not have that problem.
An exception from this rule are the dimwits from the Benelux or Scandinavian (and maybe even Balkan) countries. The Native language is so weak there that American movies or series aren't redubbed like in real European countries. They are simply subtitled. Even for the feeble-minded this results in a generally high level of English, giving them enough confidence to polute Warband chat with their thoughts.
EU more like bad
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I've played a significant amount of time on EU. I was in Fallen so I found myself in EU maybe once a week or more. But I have also been working nights over the last two months and so I play EU in the morning. I think EU has an entirely different mentality than NA. You will find teams tend to break off into smaller groups and kite each other around the map. I am always looking for the main fight in EU and sadly.... it's not the same. NA is brutal and intense conflict for a few moments and then three minutes of cleanup. EU tends to spread out a bit more and fight over a larger portion of the map. That's not to say EU doesn't engage. I am just saying that on average NA is a lot more likely to have both teams collide in force from map to map.
I think EU uses an entirely different set of tactics. EU tends to kite people a lot. You almost never see anyone kite the enemy in NA. If it's 1v3 the 1 will undoubtedly charge for their moment of glory lol. However on EU you spend a significant amount of time simply chasing people. The biggest difference is that in NA.... if someone is kiting you.... it's because they are an asshole and they want to irritate you. However on EU if you are being kited.... they are looking for a better tactical position. For this reason I also find EU players to be more aware of their surroundings than NA. They are definitely more aware of ranged.
Yes EU has better archers/crossbowmen.... But NA is FULL of throwers. I believe the difference originated because of strength stacking. Once again NA is generally looking to engage the enemy in force as quickly as possible and because of this most NA players have built stronger characters. EU is the exact opposite. They tend to look for tactical advantages and therefore tend toward faster players. And thus Archers are more effective on EU and over time there have been MORE high quality archers develop. However the opposite is true for NA. Because of strength stacking we have a lot more high quality throwers. A lot of EU guys still come in our channel to hang out from time to time and they are generally surprised by the number of throwers on NA. I believe our throwers would wipe the floor with theirs with very little effort. The opposite is true for archers.
As far as shit talking..... yes there is no comparison. Shit talking on NA is a way of life. It's like a minigame we are all so happy to play. The humor is distinct and usually very slapstick. However EU takes their shit talking seriously. They may not do it as often as we do but they are very serious about it. I will say that without question.... EU is fucking highly racist. It's totally normal to hate on another group of people. Evidently you can call anyone in EU a Mongol and they will get highly pissed (courtesy of Curtis... thank you Curtis.) So by in large NA talks shit to taunt specific opponents and we do a LOT of it. EU.... well the EU servers will at some point be responsible for the next great war in Europe because they talk shit about each others race and nationality. Case in point.... http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/hasta-siempre-comandante-and-im-saying-bye-to-all/ This dude got totally pissed because someone used an image of his country as a joke. Then there are 5 pages of why Communism is better than Fascism and visa versa..... There is some more butthurt Turk talk mixed in with a little Golden Dawn Greek superiority talk. This is how EU talks shit. I am just waiting for an all out war.
As far as pure skill is concerned..... It's hard to say. There are great players on both sides but EU has always been bigger than NA. It's reasonable that with an expanded player base there is a greater level of competition. However I believe the biggest difference in competition has to with characters. I think you will find a higher percentage of high level characters on EU. I don't know if it's because of strat or what. But the average level in NA is probably 30 with a FEW guys at 35. But in EU it's nothing for players to be really high level.
I agree with pretty much every point. At times I feels like it's more hostile when I visited EU since I don't understand the inside jokes yet.
The different tactics makes it fresh and interesting to me, especially since people tend to fight in areas that will never occur on NA. I don't know which group to stay with sometimes and end up alone often even when I thought I was following them.
One oddity I noticed is that I see one team completely destroy the other much more often. On low population it's especially noticeable, seeing multiple rounds (with good players on both sides) where one team only loses 1-3 players.
What I noticed playing NA recently was the fashion :mrgreen: Noticed lots of people with trollish unmatched equipement while on EU everybody tries to minmax and match gear myself included
I try to match all the gear that I wear on my main or alts.
What I noticed playing NA recently was the fashion :mrgreen: Noticed lots of people with trollish unmatched equipement while on EU everybody tries to minmax and match gear myself includedOh god the fashion on NA.
Oh god the fashion on NA.
Just wow.
We have like this set pool of items that everyone jumbles together into either something they like or something that is just as hideous as they could get.
I shit you not, there have been moments (it still happens too!) where I see armor for the first time (Mostly roman and russian stuff usually from either very new players or EU players). There have also been moments where an EU player will play with us and say
"Wow that is actually nice armour... In EU we would never have that, if someone wore that you would be getting screamed
at by *Lists every culture related to armor set and how it would be wrong to bring them together*
Then again there are where we see armour combinations and say "What in god's name is that? Why... why would somone even do that?!"
The EU fashion trends seem to be a lot more obvious, usually from the clan you can see "Oh that is Dhruzina, I guess that is Russian armor".
Or "Theres Byzantium and their...well byzantine roman armor I guess..."
It...its not a speedo... its... its uhhh a european junkbag.
The only comment I have on EU fashion is.....
Speedo's? Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPhXZQFBeEE
NA definitely the best fashion. Who wants to look all the same? There are several players I recognize on the field by their gear alone. In fact, I give people shit when I think I'm killing a player like Eyebeat with his distinctive look and it is someone else. "What the fuck? You stole Eyebeat's clothes!"Imitation is one thing, but the worst is when you see someone's clothes and go into a furious bloodrage and it turns out to be just some new player who wants to be someone else.
woops I just played with my signature and accidentally has left a message here... i'm so clumsy :oops:
But since I did it so here's my pics related to N/A(click to show/hide)I played N/A some time ago and I can say that I've got even more valour there (whenever of NA 1 or NA 2) than on EU servs. So I can say that average level of NA players is much lower than EU's. By the way you can often see the Eu players appearing on NA strat battles, and very rarely NA's on EU strats.(click to show/hide)
EU my old friends are my old friendgy tryhards
NA best, get rekt my old friends
Clockwork best NA player
But seriously, everyone on EU seems to be a massive tryhard
There are more people on NA who don't give fucks
No one shit talks in EU_1 like in NA_1 <------ Give it time and you will learn :lol:
Nah, you guys really don't compare. The difference is night and day.
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im glad you posted a screenshot of someone going 8/12 on siege as your ultimate evidence of an entire continents superiority. THE GREAT DEBATE HAS BEEN SOLVED!
meh you cant really get a good idea from a few rounds. a few years ago i worked nights so played NA often and i did great. but at the time i was lvl 32 and top 50 for exp and did great on eu even if playing poorly. :D I pop on NA every so often but its hard to gauge with just a few rounds
sure 1 screenshot of topping the board means everyone else is bad...logic flaw over 9000I didnt say that everyone is bad. I talk about the average. Feel the difference.
I didnt say that everyone is bad. I talk about the average. Feel the difference.
And here you go - more screenshots just if you want it:(click to show/hide)
You're a 2h my old friend that screenshots going 6:4?I agree with the 6-4 thing, but plz cut the outdated 2h hate.(click to show/hide)
I agree with the 6-4 thing, but plz cut the outdated 2h hate.
Posting SS's of topping the other's servers.Aww you're so modest <3
The few times I've played EU I topped the servers. And I'm a pretty average player.
I don't epeen enough to take the SS's, except right now and maybe one time later.
Must anything else even be posted?Porn, if you please.
So 2 AM in NA it is a mysterious time when people just cant do shit? Okay, please go on, tell me more interesting stories.
true im playing now on NA albeit slightly drunk but whenever i try to fight someone 2 vs 1 i either get TH or bumped by friendly cav :D but im not going to say ALL NA TH HERP because of it like some seem to doThere is no such thing as a "Friendly cav" on NA.
All I know is NA is fairly poor at support polearming of all kinds.
If you moved your head you would see why I was screaming NOOOOOOOO.(click to show/hide)
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its even funnier because that guys is really bad, all he does is spam a katana while he cant block more than 3 hits in a row :lol:There's a difference between new and bad. Porthos is quite new, but definitely not bad. And yes he spams a lot (guess who taught him to :rolleyes:).
Actually we have some really good ones like Relit, Bonsai, Tanken, etc. It's just that none of them play very often
Cavalry on both sides remains pretty unimpressive - there's a only a handful of really good NA cav.
There's a difference between new and bad. Porthos is quite new, but definitely not bad. And yes he spams a lot (guess who taught him to :rolleyes:).
Is there any EU counterpart to myself? I like to think that I contribute to NA culture with my shit talking and 1h cav pro MLG skill.
e.g. Devilize, Rohypnol, Hobb, Daruvian IMO
Don't forget Sandy IMO.
Actually we have some really good ones like Relit, Bonsai, Tanken, etc. It's just that none of them play very oftenYeah I have seen these guys play, they don't hold a candle to Knitler, Heibai, Muffin, Gurnisson, Chase, Strudog, me and probably some others. I can usually at least keep up with the good NA support polearmers when I play NA Strat. Considering I fail about half my stabs they should be leaving me way behind if they were of comparable skill. I would like to see any 120 ping support polearmers try to keep up with me in an EU Strat battle.
Don't forget Sandy IMO.
e.g. Devilize, Rohypnol, Hobb, Daruvian IMO
One thing i prefer about EU to NA is i notice NA uses the knockdown-hit on floor-kick-hit again, tactic way more than EU, for 2 free hits and chain stagger - potentially knocking down a second time for unlimited swings. It's just a cheap tactic, quite literally kicking someone when they're down xD
Yeah I have seen these guys play, they don't hold a candle to Knitler, Heibai, Muffin, Gurnisson, Chase, Strudog, me and probably some others. I can usually at least keep up with the good NA support polearmers when I play NA Strat. Considering I fail about half my stabs they should be leaving me way behind if they were of comparable skill. I would like to see any 120 ping support polearmers try to keep up with me in an EU Strat battle.
I'd like to see a few EU support polearmers keep up with you in an EU strat battle
inb4 "Top 10 NA/EU Polearm Players" thread is created
inb4 "Top 10 NA/EU Polearm Players" thread is created
inb4 "Top 10 NA/EU Polearm Players" thread is created
He just named many of the ones who can, only he forgot zDevilbox who was a true pro with a long spear :)
Please don't let the kids saying rekt represent NA. They're the ones that keep the sensible people away from the mod. We're a fine bunch that read books and drink tea too.
One thing i prefer about EU to NA is i notice NA uses the knockdown-hit on floor-kick-hit again, tactic way more than EU, for 2 free hits and chain stagger - potentially knocking down a second time for unlimited swings. It's just a cheap tactic, quite literally kicking someone when they're down xD
Only true pro with longspear is Craftybadger, others are either abusers of broken mechanics (Teeth and the likes) or a little bit worse.
inb4 "Top 10 NA/EU Polearm Players" thread is created
One thing i prefer about EU to NA is i notice NA uses the knockdown-hit on floor-kick-hit again, tactic way more than EU, for 2 free hits and chain stagger - potentially knocking down a second time for unlimited swings. It's just a cheap tactic, quite literally kicking someone when they're down xD
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Don't forget Sandy IMO.
e.g. Devilize, Rohypnol, Hobb, Daruvian IMO
What bloody planet do you live on man.
NA players also know how to roll away to avoid this cheap tactic :idea:
Can we do top 10 NA/EU cav players instead so I can actually make the list? There is literally no other way I could make a list. The only time I played polearm was a gen of pure strength long maul just because it was hilariously overpowered before the agility buffs.
Actually we have some really good ones like Relit, Bonsai, Tanken, etc. It's just that none of them play very often
Only true pro with longspear is Craftybadger, others are either abusers of broken mechanics (Teeth and the likes) or a little bit worse.Hah, Craftybadger roflcopter spinned, jumped around and floorstabbed like a motherfucker. Don't see how that wasn't abuse and using up down stabs is.
Too true... i only ever remember that roll exists at the moment i'm already eating concrete and anticipating the kind kick that awaits me as i try to stand.
- Recently i went to South Africa and transitioned from NA to EU. Things that i notice since playing on EU.
EU1
- No one shit talks in EU_1 like in NA_1
- They do not use the term rekt
- Most EU mele players are not very good except for like 6%, the rest are very good shielders, range, and 2h/pole.
- Range is actually decent in EU, way more accurate players than NA
Best/funniest EU players in my opinion
Best 2h
- Bjord, apsod
Best 1h
- Burak or the guy who uses elite scimy and kuyak forgot his name
Best ranged
- Hood, Baggee, steeveee maybe some others im forgetting
Best Leecher
-Conan Knight Who says BULLSHIT
Best polearm users
- Teeth, panos gay spam, KUIwon
Funniest EU player
- HESKEYTIME
Actually we have some really good ones like Relit, Bonsai, Tanken, etc. It's just that none of them play very often
NA Players get bitches
You didnt even see the duck quacking in That Time You missed sth :3
Yeah I have seen these guys play, they don't hold a candle to Knitler, Heibai, Muffin, Gurnisson, Chase, Strudog, me and probably some others. I can usually at least keep up with the good NA support polearmers when I play NA Strat. Considering I fail about half my stabs they should be leaving me way behind if they were of comparable skill. I would like to see any 120 ping support polearmers try to keep up with me in an EU Strat battle.NA's best pikemen have long since stopped playing. There isn't a single NA player that I've seen In the last several months that I'd mention in this particular discussion. As far as everything else goes though, I'm not really noticing any huge skill disparities.
I find your playstyle very aggressive and it gets you killed needlessly a lot.Then it's due to ping alone. On EU that seems to work in his favor.
New Pikeman reporting for duty.
Bernie has been wrecking face as a pikemen- I just respecced and picked it up too- Maybe NA does need a few more support polearms.
Nahh now i'm just gonna be my old friend_Lemon
NA Players get bitches
I can happily kill a tincan player with a Nordic sword (29 cut) and 6-7 PS ever since i learned to hold my swings with a more agile build, most tincan scum just assume you'll glance and dont even try to block till it's too late. Most 1hand do take many hits to kill tincans, blunt takes fewer than cut though as most blunt weapons not only have knockdown but decent damage potential even if we ignore the knockdown, so i do think that blunt + knockdown are significantly stronger than cut on that basis, not just potential free hits but higher damage vs tanks, and 1-shot most light armour (+ potential free hits if they survive), which is why i avoid using all blunt and pierce unless it's strat where i owe it to my team to be as un-shit as i can manage... And unless it's strat i'll often let an opponent who's on the floor for whatever reason stand up again.
On strat i do have the hp and armour to survive knockdowns and followups from nearly all weapons, so i experience the knockdown-kick combo from all blunt weapons, including great mauls sometimes xD (that's right, weak-ass bitches can't finish me in 2 hits).