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Title: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Flans on September 28, 2013, 10:38:48 pm
Jeirbe Castle has been taken from the murc hands.

The murcs are no longer in the north.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Conquisitore on September 28, 2013, 10:43:40 pm
Praise the lord !
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Guray on September 28, 2013, 10:49:39 pm
 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Erasmas on September 28, 2013, 10:53:29 pm
Well done, congratulations  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Guray on September 28, 2013, 11:13:36 pm
nobody is QQing  :cry:
fuck it I am going to Kapikulu someone :D
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Harpag on September 28, 2013, 11:27:18 pm
The murcs are no longer in the north.

Forgot about Fisdnar, but I believe in steadfast spirit Peasants of Fisdnar  :)
USA USA USA

Jeirbe Castle has been taken from the murc hands.

I don't know about this siege (later I will ask guys), but for sure this is a great victory. Congratulations!
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: flans1 on September 28, 2013, 11:38:13 pm
Forgot about Fisdnar, but I believe in steadfast spirit Peasants of Fisdnar  :)
USA USA USA


FPoF said they do not want wolves to help with the village so my job in the north is done, And thanks but switch led the battle he did a great job.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Harpag on September 28, 2013, 11:43:59 pm
... my job in the north is done...

I must say that very very well done  :D  Let Kinngrimm spirit will always be with you  :D
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Abay on September 28, 2013, 11:49:05 pm
was a great play and determination. gratz  8-)
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 28, 2013, 11:50:00 pm
wh...wha...what?  :shock:
okay...i need someone who describes me this fail piece by piece so I can slowly believe, that Mercs lost 20k troops in one battle...Any volunteers?

Edit: Thanks Guray.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Guray on September 28, 2013, 11:51:33 pm
wh...wha...what?  :shock:
okay...i need someone who describes me this fail piece by piece so I can slowly believe, that Mercs lost 20k troops in one battle...Any volunteers?
To sum up , they suck  :lol:
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Anyways i am going to tell the story :
We built 2 spawnpoits and then a siegetower while we were attacking the walls grey guys built a catapult and destroyed the right wall and then we took the left wall and the keep. We put all archers there and then we built another forward spawn on the walls after that we took all the walls only place left was gatehouse and it wasnt that hard to take
I am proud of my paint skills :D
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Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 28, 2013, 11:56:41 pm
To sum up , they suck  :lol:

Weelllll....thats not new...I think I am the guy who hates mercs the most these days...there is not one Merc to hate, but just the whole clans incompetence...
But its just not possible to loose a castle in one attack...with shiniest gear...and alot of players...how did they do it?

Edit: Thanks Guray.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Guray on September 28, 2013, 11:57:32 pm
Weelllll....thats not new...
But its just not possible to loose a castle in one attack...with shiniest gear...and alot of players...how did they do it?
i edited my msg
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: BASNAK on September 28, 2013, 11:58:44 pm
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5269

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Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Guray on September 29, 2013, 12:06:38 am
can an admin delete this post so heskey's post can come to the front page
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: woody on September 29, 2013, 12:35:21 am
Best thing about this is the 14k troops means a small clan like wolves can equip 6-7 more armies.

Which will probably be used rather than left to fester.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 29, 2013, 12:51:21 am
here's the detailed version
I agree :D

Thanks for your answer aswell Heskey.
The point that Mercs are inactive is not 100% true...its just the fact, that all the people with high rank in the faction dont give a piss on strategus anymore. They were attacked by Wolves in the North while greys attacked in the Middle. When they recognized they gonna loose alot of fiefs and shit they thaught: "strategus? whats that pft...we didnt even try to make something there!" This is pretty sad, because many others put effort in keeping mercs alive. More then 50% of all the Merc stuff was lost due to inactivity, lazyness and retardness...

All in all for me Mercs are were the most ingrate Faction on the Map.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Strudog on September 29, 2013, 01:22:48 am
Yes the MErcs are inactive and this maybe due to the fact we are losing, RL commitments, i for sure have just started my 3rd year of Uni and have no time for strat at all ( i hate it anyways). Many of the Mercs leaders are rather inactive due to RL problems and getting bored of the game. And i dont know how you can hate a clan for being inactive chris? its kind of sad.

This is not an excuse, because yes we did get bum fucked, but sheds light on why some of these losses do occur.





Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 29, 2013, 01:32:43 am
If you have trouble in Real Life and you cannot play the thing in a proper way, then you dont keep 30+ fiefs in your hands while other factions with the same amount of active players do not even have 3 fiefs.
When Mercs got attacked they decided to give up straight away. Compare that to Wolves...they were attacked and suddenly many members woke up and came back to keep their name in honor! But Mercs didnt...they brought dishonor for their clan and hope for the enemy. Indirectly you are attacking your own Allies with the moves you do and you didnt not even try to give the people who tried to help you any reason or excuse for your acts. You just keep silent and go afk. This is what I hate. This is why I hate.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Abay on September 29, 2013, 01:58:29 am
Lol Chris, you talk about 'honour' ?
I see you are very upset about Mercs couldnt set the pormising lands to Steel Axis, surely.
In any case, you stole many from Wolves, did choose a bad way to create your own clan. I dont know if it is about your roleplay or ur main characteristics but what you did to Wolves was not an honourable thing!
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Latvian on September 29, 2013, 02:18:58 am
oh great, you took my castle while i was having life,just so you know some of us have to go to actual work or have life, not sit home all day long milking parents or doing god knows what. And now you tell yourselves and everyone how great you are to win such battle, gg greys and co.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Abay on September 29, 2013, 02:35:31 am
oh great, you took my castle while i was having life,just so you know some of us have to go to actual work or have life, not sit home all day long milking parents or doing god knows what. And now you tell yourselves and everyone how great you are to win such battle, gg greys and co.
If the leaders have no time to play this game, then they better dont promise anyone anything. Nocti was talking from high when rogue was behind him. What now? You list your excuses? Dont play the underdog and let people enjoy the night!
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 29, 2013, 02:53:04 am
Lol Chris, you talk about 'honour' ?
I see you are very upset about Mercs couldnt set the pormising lands to Steel Axis, surely.
In any case, you stole many from Wolves, did choose a bad way to create your own clan. I dont know if it is about your roleplay or ur main characteristics but what you did to Wolves was not an honourable thing!
Its not what I did, its what we did as Steel Axis. Its true, I was one of the main actors in this Steel Axis thing and I think we made some good battles (even some night battles fucked it up).
Maybe you did not know, but in the aftermath I personally regret what happened in these former days. I never wanted kinngrimm to leave. I just wanted to give my friends from the Bros a better situation in strategus. As time passed on and some more changes happened I saw that it did not work out, so I decided to take a break. Everyone makes mistakes and nobody is perfect. I still remember times when I was heartly welcomed on your ts and we were actually mates, but the time changed some things and some of these I regret and some I dont. In the end I recognized that I take this game way to serious, so I reduced my time a bit and concentrate more on school and my real life friends. I am not the leader of anything anymore. I am playing for myself. I am helping my Bros still, because they are my friends and I want them to have some fun in strategus.
People like Mercs are ruining this fun...one more point to be mad.

oh great, you took my castle while i was having life,just so you know some of us have to go to actual work or have life, not sit home all day long milking parents or doing god knows what. And now you tell yourselves and everyone how great you are to win such battle, gg greys and co.
God Latvian...when you are not able to hold a fief, then dont do it and give it to someone that is able to...Also I saw you online several times in ts when there were Merc battles and you didnt give a shit. So dont tell me something about you give a shit about strat!
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Latvian on September 29, 2013, 03:00:49 am
Its not what I did, its what we did as Steel Axis. Its true, I was one of the main actors in this Steel Axis thing and I think we made some good battles (even some night battles fucked it up).
Maybe you did not know, but in the aftermath I personally regret what happened in these former days. I never wanted kinngrimm to leave. I just wanted to give my friends from the Bros a better situation in strategus. As time passed on and some more changes happened I saw that it did not work out, so I decided to take a break. Everyone makes mistakes and nobody is perfect. I still remember times when I was heartly welcomed on your ts and we were actually mates, but the time changed some things and some of these I regret and some I dont. In the end I recognized that I take this game way to serious, so I reduced my time a bit and concentrate more on school and my real life friends. I am not the leader of anything anymore. I am playing for myself. I am helping my Bros still, because they are my friends and I want them to have some fun in strategus.
People like Mercs are ruining this fun...one more point to be mad.
God Latvian...when you are not able to hold a fief, then dont do it and give it to someone that is able to...Also I saw you online several times in ts when there were Merc battles and you didnt give a shit. So dont tell me something about you give a shit about strat!
go home chris, you ate too much sausages ,( stop stalking me, should i be afraid now?)besides why shoul i spend all my time to thing such as strat? I dont want to become like some of these newmy old friends who spend all time doing strategus stuff and than glorify themselves for that. Every time something happens there pops up some thread of " we are so great cuz we did something in browsergame  hurr durr" threads.

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Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Matze on September 29, 2013, 03:39:25 am
oh great, you took my castle while i was having life,just so you know some of us have to go to actual work or have life, not sit home all day long milking parents or doing god knows what. And now you tell yourselves and everyone how great you are to win such battle, gg greys and co.

When you don`t care in this game make a few army and attack us and give guys exp and fun. But wait you are Merc.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Abay on September 29, 2013, 03:55:26 am
Its not what I did, its what we did as Steel Axis. Its true, I was one of the main actors in this Steel Axis thing and I think we made some good battles (even some night battles fucked it up).
Maybe you did not know, but in the aftermath I personally regret what happened in these former days. I never wanted kinngrimm to leave. I just wanted to give my friends from the Bros a better situation in strategus. As time passed on and some more changes happened I saw that it did not work out, so I decided to take a break. Everyone makes mistakes and nobody is perfect. I still remember times when I was heartly welcomed on your ts and we were actually mates, but the time changed some things and some of these I regret and some I dont. In the end I recognized that I take this game way to serious, so I reduced my time a bit and concentrate more on school and my real life friends. I am not the leader of anything anymore. I am playing for myself. I am helping my Bros still, because they are my friends and I want them to have some fun in strategus.
People like Mercs are ruining this fun...one more point to be mad.
Betreyals are different things Chris. Lemikz's situation is same, too; maybe worse for me. Cos he promised me that he wouldnt send any help to Mercs against us but he did! Now I just call that friendship here is just a LIE unless the man you talk is an honourable man.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Guray on September 29, 2013, 04:14:02 am
oh great, you took my castle while i was having life,just so you know some of us have to go to actual work or have life, not sit home all day long milking parents or doing god knows what. And now you tell yourselves and everyone how great you are to win such battle, gg greys and co.

comeon latvian dont be so mean :/
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Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Segd on September 29, 2013, 04:21:52 am
oh god thats what I was waiting for :D finally some QQs  :lol:
Latvian is kinda bad at QQ role. Not fun at all. Brig back Ginger & Nocti plz, we want some real drama here  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Guray on September 29, 2013, 05:03:01 am
Latvian is kinda bad at QQ role. Not fun at all. Brig back Ginger & Nocti plz, we want some real drama here  :rolleyes:
indeed  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 29, 2013, 08:43:30 am
go home chris, you ate too much sausages ,( stop stalking me, should i be afraid now?)besides why shoul i spend all my time to thing such as strat? I dont want to become like some of these newmy old friends who spend all time doing strategus stuff and than glorify themselves for that. Every time something happens there pops up some thread of " we are so great cuz we did something in browsergame  hurr durr" threads.

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I already told you, that when you know you cannot afford holding several fiefs, then dont! Give them to smaller parties so they can do something with it...look at Heskeytime. He got the time and hes working on something to give the community something fun. And there are many others who could do as he does.

Betreyals are different things Chris. Lemikz's situation is same, too; maybe worse for me. Cos he promised me that he wouldnt send any help to Mercs against us but he did! Now I just call that friendship here is just a LIE unless the man you talk is an honourable man.
I didnt get you completely :/
So you say lemikz did his betrayal out of friendship and i did not and that makes me a unhonourful man? (Please correct me if i got it wrong)
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Strudog on September 29, 2013, 10:48:53 am
This is the last thing i am going to say in this thread, but chris you have gone full retard sorry, you splurge out all these criticisms of the mercs and have not thought twice about the whole scenario.

We may be sitting in our fiefs, but do you not remember the time of when the greys did this? but stop pointing fingers at us ruining strategus when the greys went inactive on the map and did nothing for a while, we may not have wiped them because i don't think we were persistent enough, but thats our own fault.

Have the Mercs not made strategus more interesting for everyone? this obviously was not our intentions as a clan but has it not changed from the usual East Vs. West bashing to internal feuds and have actually shown that small factions can play a huge part in Strategus?


All of the Eastern block is inactive, so why do you not hate the Fallen, Templars, SB etc.? This then becomes a problem when rosters are being done and you are finding it hard to fill your roster with 1 million xp battles, it means we have to fill our rosters with people like Chris, NA's and Chinese. And i think you are being damn right ungrateful chris because i know a lot times we have accepted you into our battles over higher levelled and better players than you.

But all i can say is to congratulate the Wolves and Greys on a good round of strategus and that even though i have always hated strat, there were quite a few fun battles. A wish good luck to the now newly formed independent states of Alburqia and the Saxons, this is what happens when an Empire falls.

Anyways GL and GG



Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 29, 2013, 11:22:38 am
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Kinngrimm,

the Wolves has payed your debt to the Apostates

The bloody work is finished

May your soul finally rest in peace



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- Blessed be the Wolves, our brotherhood,
Who trains my hands for war, And my fingers for battle;
My strength and my fortress, My stronghold and my deliverer;
My shield and My brother in arms in whom I trust,
I lay my life in the hands of my clan,
and give my life to protect its members
Our clan is not its leaders - our clan is the members whom without,
we would be nothing
brothers, I salut thee







Wolves bloody wolves,

The way you have managed to conquer the north is impressive, and the finale last night was superb. When I left the clan Odyssues, you told me you lack the leaderskills needed to take over leadership and that people wouldnt listen to you, look at what you and the clan has done since then. I know you have had help from alot of guys in the clan, and Larvae, Winterfell, Azzmodan and Switch deserves credit and probably alot more guys that I dont know.

Odysseus, you have the abilities to lead - definately - you kept pushing the clan and never slowed down.

Switch, I didnt have time to get to know you before I left the clan, but I am very glad you joined the Wolves after hearing how the battle last night was lead. Hats of to you!

All the clans that supported the Wolves in the clans darkest hour when the future was uncertain and Kinngrimm left - hats of to you guys aswell - Kapikulu, Cotgs, Baldes, OdE. Without your help, the situation on the map would have been completely different, the Kapis helping out when there was no chance of success, the others for aiding in the campaign against the northern Apostates territory.

Without the rostersupport during that time, given by the Greys and DRZ and allies, the Wolves wouldnt have gotten far - the clan did awake as you said Chris, and stayed true and strong to the banner and has now, together with friends and allies, managed to defeat the Apostates (and yes Latvian, we all know you dont care and that you have real lives).

Not long ago the great eastern clans were talking about forcing the Wolves to leave their home in the snowlands, relocating them to some remote place on the map or just wiping them - people were asking what the mercs would do with the fiefs they would take from the Wolves when they finished wiping them. Nocti was explaining how Wolves would stand no chance in a war with the Apostates, and that Wolves knew little or nothing about planning an offensive campaign. Without Kinngrimm the Wolves would be teethless pups.


Stay hungry, Wolves and never bow down to no clan

VIRTUAL COOKIES TO YOU ALL
-GRANNY










Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 29, 2013, 11:39:47 am



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Why the mighty empire of the Apostates fell into pain and agony?


Mercs fed the wrong Wolf....... :twisted:


Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: serr on September 29, 2013, 11:43:40 am
Good job Wolves. Of course it wouldn't work against Coalition or at least better prepared defense, but still very impressive result. Though my side lose and lose terribly, I'm glad that we have another good big faction on the map in addition to Greys, Drz and Coalition and I hope that when(if) there will be no eastern block you won't end up with "Why should we fight our friends" as some other factions did before.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Torben on September 29, 2013, 11:53:07 am
I missed all the battles QQ
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: fosr on September 29, 2013, 11:56:20 am
lol
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Teeth on September 29, 2013, 12:15:16 pm
To be honest I am quite confused why we died them fairly easily. Their roster looks quite okay, guess the mass ranged finally bit them in the ass. The castle is quite easy to attack, those wooden overhangs on the wall always offer a quite easy entrypoint for ladders and siege towers compared to normal stone battlements. Which means we got entry quite easily and the high number of archers weren't as effective anymore.   

The attack was decently done, but hardly perfect, could've gone wrong very easily. There wasn't even enough equipment for the entire battle and we left them the gatehouse as a last stronghold, which should have been taken much earlier when defenders were still spread to prevent the risk of a deadlock. It was the only spot that allowed them to survive that long. If Apostates would've had a slightly better or larger melee core, (or Bobby with a defensive catapult) the bragging would be going the other way right now. Our gear was hardly great the last 40 minutes.

In any case I am glad there is a way to quickly take high garrison castles, I highly recommend though that the next faction who tries it at least gets enough equipment for the entire 2,5 hours, in case things don't go so smoothly and the castle is harder to attack.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 29, 2013, 12:18:37 pm
We may be sitting in our fiefs, but do you not remember the time of when the greys did this? but stop pointing fingers at us ruining strategus when the greys went inactive on the map and did nothing for a while, we may not have wiped them because i don't think we were persistent enough, but thats our own fault.
There is a small difference...Greys managed to hold their fiefs, because they had active players who have gone to the battle places, recruited and helped out. They were able to just wait the situation out, because they had enough players to handle their land. Thats what you didnt have and you knew it since 2 month before Greys attacked you (at least that is what I have heart at least 20 times when I asked about the bad defence: "It was obviously this will happen") and I am asking myself, why didnt you say something? You had enough time to let your allies know, you are not able to defend your lands and you need to give some of them away, but you didnt and nobody was able to help you. When your allies found out it was to late and the help came to late.


All of the Eastern block is inactive, so why do you not hate the Fallen, Templars, SB etc.? This then becomes a problem when rosters are being done and you are finding it hard to fill your roster with 1 million xp battles, it means we have to fill our rosters with people like Chris, NA's and Chinese. And i think you are being damn right ungrateful chris because i know a lot times we have accepted you into our battles over higher levelled and better players than you.
The Templars are dead since Alpha is gone. Everyone knew they would not survive without the master planer. Sadly to SB happened the same, but SB never showed off and told everyone they are the best...

So you want to tell me I am a bad Strategus Battle applicant? I am not that sure, but I am pretty sure I am the guy who destroyed so many enemy siege stuff that he could even mess with kinngrimm! I remember a battle where I decided to apply against you because you took me off 10 minutes before the battle because some Merc guy turned up. I was lvl 30 or 31 and you rejected me. Enemy side was happy to accept me and I remember 3 or 4 forward spawns on that hill I managed to destroy with Gurays help. You guys were pretty angry, but it was your own fault.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: serr on September 29, 2013, 12:19:47 pm
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Which means we got entry quite easily and the high number of archers weren't as effective anymore.

The problem is that we have run out of ladders and ranged weapons 30 minutes after battle starts. So high number of archers weren't effective for other reason - they didn't have bows anymore  :D
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Flans on September 29, 2013, 12:27:46 pm
To be honest I am quite confused why we died fairly easily. Their roster looks quite okay, guess the mass ranged finally bit them in the ass. The castle is quite easy to attack, those wooden overhangs on the wall always offer a quite easy entrypoint for ladders and siege towers compared to normal stone battlements. Which means we got entry quite easily and the high number of archers weren't as effective anymore.   

The attack was decently done, but hardly perfect, could've gone wrong very easily. There wasn't even enough equipment for the entire battle and we left them the gatehouse as a last stronghold, which should have been taken much earlier when defenders were still spread to prevent the risk of a deadlock. It was the only spot that allowed them to survive that long. If Apostates would've had a slightly better or larger melee core, (or Bobby with a defensive catapult) the bragging would be going the other way right now. Our gear was hardly great the last 40 minutes.

In any case I am glad there is a way to quickly take high garrison castles, I highly recommend though that the next faction who tries it at least gets enough equipment for the entire 2,5 hours, in case things don't go so smoothly and the castle is harder to attack.

A risk had to be taken with this attack. The risk of throwing away 5800 men, nobody is gonna gear 5.8k troops mate, had this been a harder to take castle then losing the extra 2.5-3k tickets would have stung less by not having equipped them since they'd never see combat if we were stuck outside the walls.
There is no reason for you or anyone else to belittle the achievement that was rendered last night, their roster was fine, ours was fine, they ran out of bows, and I made it so that we'd have decent gear towards the end of the fight, the gear we used hardly mattered anyway. btw, I only had gear for 2800 or so troops :p if they had killed that many, we'd have been charging naked for the rest of the sacrificial tickets.

In any case Grunwalder castle is close to your territories with a 9k garrison, show me how you would handle this :)
You only have to attack with a little over 3k troops, put full plate on the whole lot and let us have some fun :)
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: woody on September 29, 2013, 12:49:07 pm
More than 50% of deaths due to inactivity and retardness??? Not even close - more like 90%.

About 10% due to inactivity (only once utterly knackered anyway) and 80% due to retardedness - thanks Haboe no-one could wish for a better enemy to have.

Also I dont think the coalition once again proving worthless as an ally helped the mercs, always some excuse why they cant help their allies as with the Wolves when we were attacked. The coalition are like the big bloke in the pub who mouths off about how if anyone starts a fight or touches his mates he'll do them but when a fight starts they are always in the toilet with a bad tummy.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Latvian on September 29, 2013, 01:15:38 pm
The problem is that we have run out of ladders and ranged weapons 30 minutes after battle starts. So high number of archers weren't effective for other reason - they didn't have bows anymore  :D
problem is that owner of fief has life and can not follow his fief 24 7
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 29, 2013, 01:20:01 pm
Also I dont think the coalition once again proving worthless as an ally helped the mercs, always some excuse why they cant help their allies as with the Wolves when we were attacked. The coalition are like the big bloke in the pub who mouths off about how if anyone starts a fight or touches his mates he'll do them but when a fight starts they are always in the toilet with a bad tummy.
6k of Grunwalder Castle garnison is from Coalition afail, also 4k in Dhirim area from coaliton. When Wolves attacked in North Coalition sent 6 k shinys to north, kapikulus intervented them half way. coalition made 2:1 KD against Kapis and crushed almost 12k troops of the kapikulus.

I think they helped alot.

problem is that owner of fief has life and can not follow his fief 24 7
Then give the fief to someone who can. I am repeating myself.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Segd on September 29, 2013, 01:48:32 pm
problem is that owner of fief has life and can not follow his fief 24 7
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6k of Grunwalder Castle garnison is from Coalition afail, also 4k in Dhirim area from coaliton. When Wolves attacked in North Coalition sent 6 k shinys to north, kapikulus intervented them half way. coalition made 2:1 KD against Kapis and crushed almost 12k troops of the kapikulus.

I think they helped alot.
Narra
Population: 3000
Owner: Franke_HRE
Army: 28128
etc.

Coalition could reinforce their allies so badly that Mercs & CA will be alive forever. They could even go offensive for а change. Not mentioning that they had a power to wipe DRZ from the map entirely half of a year ago. But we still in the desert...

But now they will be just sitting on their asses, while we will be taking fief by fief until bannerlord or chadz thing comes out. Ain't saying that this is a bad strategy though. Defending is funnier & more xp-rewaring :)
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on September 29, 2013, 01:51:47 pm
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Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Bittersteel on September 29, 2013, 01:54:33 pm
lol, good editing Cymro :P
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on September 29, 2013, 01:57:23 pm
lol, good editing Cymro :P

You saw nothing and tbh i cant remember what i edited out :D
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Butan on September 29, 2013, 01:59:03 pm
Now I guess its time to attack Greys with the captured troops right Wolves/Kapikulus ? :D
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Harpag on September 29, 2013, 02:01:25 pm
Then once in the battle the initial siegetower to the front was surprisingly successful, we got onto a roof and held it well breaking ladders from the defenders trying to reclaim it (there was some hubbub making the tower face the right way, but it largely went well). Infact the first moves onto the wall were so successful that the entire left wall from the roof was swiftly overrun and capped, but not secured as defenders kept pushing and retaking it. As this was happening the right wall was having a breach made, this also interrupted defenders trying to reach the left wall as they spawned on the right. After a period of some chaos and siege tower stress, and losing and retaking the left side finally the breach prevented defenders from reaching the left. The only way they could reach it was via the courtyard or ladders, courtyard became full of attackers and ladders were broken.

The fight largely then converged on the gatehouse where the majority of the defenders were spawning, a forward spawn went up on the left wall and the right side was laddered to by the attackers this time. The right tower was capped, i thought spawn rape was viable there, but the real prize was still the heavily defended gatehouse, the last major spawnpoint of the defenders. One access of the gatehouse was restricted by a partially destroyed wall, but that was a mixed blessing for defenders since it trapped them, and prevented a mass charge out to recapture flags (of which there were attempts).

Basically all in all it was the huge number of troops that won it ironically enough, it meant the battle time was over 2 hours long and spawn times grew very long. If Jeirbe had an average garrison, and therefore an average attacking force i'm not sure there would have been long enough to cap flags. The spawn time for defenders grew noticably longer halfway through the battle, very successful attacks in the beginning. As it drew to more of a stalemate over taking the last spawns i became aware of our own spawn getting long also, and began to wonder if it was getting too long to capture the flags.

But, the momentary success of a few heroes setting their forward spawn in attackers base, and destroying the forward spawn was to be the undoing of the defense. A new forward spawn came up even closer to the gatehouse, and the defense who had taken heart from this momentary reprieve set out to recapture flags and push us out of the castle. The push was put down and the next assaults came down hard on the gatehouse as defenders hurried to spawn and one or 2 spawned naked. A few attackers took the back wall and held one doorway into the gatehouse till they got backed up, the other side was immediately rushed by people who'd set their spawn closer that side, and ladders went to the top. Once the top of the gatehouse was captured we knew it was over, after brief confusion and teamhitting the flags were put down and everyone went to guard various flags from being put up as the last defenders were hunted down.

This is the reason why I love strat  :D

problem is that owner of fief has life and can not follow his fief 24 7

No one need follow his fief 24/7  :rolleyes:  Many times I went for weeks and it was never a problem and anyone who knows me will say that I am nolifer.

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Just stop bullshiting  :rolleyes:

Now I guess its time to attack Greys with the captured troops right Wolves/Kapikulus ? :D

You first hahahahah
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 29, 2013, 02:08:04 pm
Narra
Population: 3000
Owner: Franke_HRE
Army: 28128
etc.

Coalition could reinforce their allies so badly that Mercs & CA will be alive forever. They could even go offensive for а change. Not mentioning that they had a power to wipe DRZ from the map entirely half of a year ago. But we still in the desert...

But now they will be just sitting on their asses, while we will be taking fief by fief until bannerlord or chadz thing comes out. Ain't saying that this is a bad strategy though. Defending is funnier & more xp-rewaring :)

I hope for something like a wake up aswell, but its not in our hands Segd. As long as its Seek and Hide I enjoy my xBow alts build :D
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 29, 2013, 02:09:53 pm
When Wolves attacked in North Coalition sent 6 k shinys to north, kapikulus intervented them half way. coalition made 2:1 KD against Kapis and crushed almost 12k troops of the kapikulus.

I think they helped alot.


The Kapis role in the planning and attacking of the north was to block of enemy reinforcements from the south, to attack and harm armies so they couldnt do anything to help mercs in the north. Kapikulus played their part to the fullest, Coalition never reached the north. Even if coa had better k:d they lost their ability to advance.

So, if they would have continued to push they would have reachd the north and could have helped first defend Sargoth area and then pushed us back in the north together with mercs.

Their help, Chris, was pointless in the big picture.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Vermilion on September 29, 2013, 02:10:09 pm
problem is that owner of fief has life and can not follow his fief 24 7

You keep saying that but it doesn't matter

Serr said that you ran out of ranged weapons and ladders after 30min. You had 18k? troops before the attack, why would you have so little ranged weapons? You should have had enough to last at least 3 attacks. You could have sorted this out anytime in the last few months where you have been moving troops to your castles whilst trying to defend of Greys, Wolves, Balde, etc. This is the only castles which hasn't been contested so far.

Also Apostates have 97 members, 9 of which listed as leaders. I don't know the rank at which you can control roster and P flags but there will be a lot more members than just the fief owner to sort that out (it doesn't take someone with a lot of experience to defend a castle). At first site of mass attacks against your faction I would have upped the ranking of every active member to where they can control roster and P flags.

Your AFK, busy, have a life.... excuse would only be valid if you where talking about being weapon bugged and not having the time to sort your inventory after the first couple attacks.

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Congratulations Wolves on a great victory! The North is yours (along with some small friendly factions)
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 29, 2013, 02:12:11 pm
The Kapis role in the planning and attacking of the north was to block of enemy reinforcements from the south, to attack and harm armies so they couldnt do anything to help mercs in the north. Kapikulus played their part to the fullest, Coalition never reached the north. Even if coa had better k:d they lost their ability to advance.

So, if they would have continued to push they would have reachd the north and could have helped first defend Sargoth area and then pushed us back in the north together with mercs.

Their help, Chris, was pointless in the big picture.

okay they tried, but always watched to have their own army stacking fiefs :D
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Osiris on September 29, 2013, 02:20:42 pm
so i was randomly clicking around the map to see what kind of army stacks people have these days. I see lots of 8-20k stacks which is too much for poor Wessex to face then i click Amere and i mean just wtf those poor villagers swamped by so many men

Amere
Population: 500
Owner: Hetman_The_Grey
Army: 53436


:D Hetmans private army ^^
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 29, 2013, 02:32:58 pm
This is only his personal team of bodyguards^^
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Erasmas on September 29, 2013, 03:08:41 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5276 (http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5276)

Siege #4. Have fun  :D
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Guray on September 29, 2013, 03:57:33 pm
Kapikulu did nothing in this war guys we just sit in our fiefs watched what everybody is doing and had fun with girls 8-)
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Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 29, 2013, 04:05:44 pm
Kapikulu did nothing in this war guys we just sit in our fiefs watched what everybody is doing and had fun with girls 8-)
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I have screenshots of what u did, what we did and then some of what others did- I have screenshots of the plan to attack mercs and I still have the letters planning the campaign. Dont know exactly how many, but at least I have screens from when u set up a perimeter in the mechin forest prior to our attack on the mercs
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Butan on September 29, 2013, 04:59:39 pm
I have screens of you having screens.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 29, 2013, 07:08:42 pm
I have screens of you having screens.

 :shock: Not THE screens right?
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Segd on September 29, 2013, 08:32:56 pm
Jeirbe castle you say? http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5277  8-)
Although we had a bug help. But hey, we are DRZ! We use exploits, bugs & glitches since strat 1!
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Guray on September 29, 2013, 08:39:00 pm
 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: It wasnt that fun. I couldnt feel raping
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Matim on September 29, 2013, 08:40:13 pm
:shock: Dat templar rollcall lol

central server is supporting drz

nerf crashes
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Segd on September 29, 2013, 08:40:37 pm
:shock: Dat templar rollcall lol
Taleword's poor main server. Ppl couldn't join the battle. Was 29 vs 20 I think.
+They had an equipment bug(no ranged for almost all battle time). But it was their fault anyway  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Bittersteel on September 29, 2013, 08:41:03 pm
:shock: Dat templar rollcall lol

What?


Nvm, you got an answer.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Ncromancien on September 29, 2013, 08:55:13 pm
And devs won't do anything about it... That's just sad...
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Teeth on September 29, 2013, 09:49:04 pm
Really feel bad about that, mostly because I was hoping for some good xp in a very lengthy battle, but they really got fucked over. 30 vs 21 are shit odds and can't blame them for losing like that, and this was a very costly battle for that to happen in.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: woody on September 30, 2013, 02:48:29 am
Coalition chucked 6 armies at greys, lost 06/08 to 17/08 6 battles and 11,300 or so troops. Plus a couple of others versus Kapis which I think coalition won but with few survivors, could be wrong on that but cant be arsed to look up.

To a clan of their size with virtually unlimited cash and masses of troops that is not alot, look at their garrisons. Certainly not guaranteeing a peace. The Wolves a much smaller clan moved many more than that in the intial merc attack. The greys moved masses more than that shortly after.

We were expecting 40,000+ co-alition to plough north, some to be halted by Kapis but those field armies to fall and then to be last ditch defending vs mercs and coalition. Reasons we were prepared to get wiped to hit the mercs have been endlessly discussed elsewhere. 10-15,000 troops mobilised was a joke, the mercs did not get the backing we were expecting. Shame - woulda been good fun.

Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Rebelyell on September 30, 2013, 03:26:52 am
yea sad after that all armies lost by mercs during siege on GO
dam I feel so bad about that now
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Vovka on September 30, 2013, 09:26:41 am
I feel hurt for those players who have been farm and threw troops for several months in the castels and then 2-3 morons facked them all cos not able to spend 5 min for sell the stuff and avoid an item bug (in teramma was more than 250 varieties of items, the same thing in samara)
 Of course they can say that they do not care, but I do not believe in it. 12k(samara), and 18k(teramma) it's 1,250 man-days  :shock:
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 30, 2013, 10:26:11 am
yea sad after that all armies lost by mercs during siege on GO
dam I feel so bad about that now
Sarcams. I love it!

I feel hurt for those players who have been farm and threw troops for several months in the castels and then 2-3 morons facked them all cos not able to spend 5 min for sell the stuff and avoid an item bug (in teramma was more than 250 varieties of items, the same thing in samara)
 Of course they can say that they do not care, but I do not believe in it. 12k(samara), and 18k(teramma) it's 1,250 man-days  :shock:
One more reason to be ashamed of yourself merc leaders!
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on September 30, 2013, 11:23:28 am
One more reason to be ashamed of yourself merc leaders!

Samara and teramma castles were not ours Chris, if you're gonna bitch and moan at least get your facts right.

Both those castles were previously owned by the Templars, and now the DRZ have 30k+ more tickets :o time to run away :D
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Knitler on September 30, 2013, 12:46:24 pm
The Kapis role in the planning and attacking of the north was to block of enemy reinforcements from the south, to attack and harm armies so they couldnt do anything to help mercs in the north. Kapikulus played their part to the fullest, Coalition never reached the north. Even if coa had better k:d they lost their ability to advance.

So, if they would have continued to push they would have reachd the north and could have helped first defend Sargoth area and then pushed us back in the north together with mercs.

Their help, Chris, was pointless in the big picture.

Soo... Let me say you one point of that action coalition did when i was still in and even leading the (4-7armies) up north.
~ I always told my ppl leading the armys (Varadin included) Main target is to kill some tickets off the enemies (which was really succesfull against kapis)
~ Secondary plan was to reach north and help out --- later on i decided to break that target cause they fucked up to hard at Sargoth and Rivacheg.

It was a nice to lead some armies the first time of strat - i atleast didnt messed up, kind of bad kapis stoped us with just 500vs.1800 men ;)
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 30, 2013, 12:59:41 pm
Samara and teramma castles were not ours Chris, if you're gonna bitch and moan at least get your facts right.

Both those castles were previously owned by the Templars, and now the DRZ have 30k+ more tickets :o time to run away :D

No they werent. But what vovka wrote is exactly the same for Jeirbe Castle! The difference is, that Templars and SB lost it due to a bug and Mercs lost it due to inactivity and lazyness.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Latvian on September 30, 2013, 01:00:37 pm
No they werent. But what vovka wrote is exactly the same for Jeirbe Castle! The difference is, that Templars and SB lost it due to a bug and Mercs lost it due to inactivity and lazyness.
at least we had something to lose :p   btw who is owner of jeirbe castle now? i have to ask something to him. ( this current owner is obviously alt or something)
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 30, 2013, 01:01:52 pm
at least we had something to lose :p
This is silly and you know it.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Harpag on September 30, 2013, 01:10:00 pm
at least we had something to lose :p
yeah, empty heads  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 30, 2013, 01:12:46 pm
Soo... Let me say you one point of that action coalition did when i was still in and even leading the (4-7armies) up north.
~ I always told my ppl leading the armys (Varadin included) Main target is to kill some tickets off the enemies (which was really succesfull against kapis)
~ Secondary plan was to reach north and help out --- later on i decided to break that target cause they fucked up to hard at Sargoth and Rivacheg.

It was a nice to lead some armies the first time of strat - i atleast didnt messed up, kind of bad kapis stoped us with just 500vs.1800 men ;)

And if they hadnt stopped you, you would have reached Sargoth and the 5-6 SIEGEARMIES waiting there, and you would have killed them in open field battles and by doing that made sure the cotgs, Baldes and Ecurcheurs wouldnt cross the river again anytime soon. Then in a second wave walked straight up the H-forest east of the Wolves lands and attacked Rivacheg from one direction while mercs could have pushed from Ismirala up north and we would have been smashed.

This was what we expected at least, oh we scouted the H-forest hard to look for the Coa reinforcements coming that way but you never appeared. Lucky us  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: Knitler on September 30, 2013, 01:16:57 pm
And if they hadnt stopped you, you would have reached Sargoth and the 5-6 SIEGEARMIES waiting there, and you would have killed them in open field battles and by doing that made sure the cotgs, Baldes and Ecurcheurs wouldnt cross the river again anytime soon. Then in a second wave walked straight up thevisitors can't see pics , please register or login
 east of the Wolves lands and attacked Rivacheg from one direction while mercs could have pushed from Ismirala up north and we would have been smashed.

This was what we expected at least, oh we scouted the H-forest hard to look for the Coa reinforcements coming that way but you never appeared. Lucky us  :mrgreen:

Isnt that an N-Forest?

Well, it was kind of for sure we wouldnt move over Sungetche, would have took way longer.
Anyway, i hate what actually happened to the east block - ppl beeing inactivy or just (specially coalition) thinking its not worth fighting for mercs/crusader alliance anymore ...

But when it goes down to their own fiefs, like 80% of the roster is coalition.
Title: Re: Jeirbe Castle
Post by: GRANDMOM on September 30, 2013, 01:25:59 pm
Isnt that an N-Forest?

Well, it was kind of for sure we wouldnt move over Sungetche, would have took way longer.
Anyway, i hate what actually happened to the east block - ppl beeing inactivy or just (specially coalition) thinking its not worth fighting for mercs/crusader alliance anymore ...

But when it goes down to their own fiefs, like 80% of the roster is coalition.

Yes it would have taken to long to go that way and save Sargoth, but we were expecting a second wave through there, it would have turned the table completely around again and our offensive campaign would have been a bad call.