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Title: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Little Lord Lollipop on April 18, 2013, 08:50:43 pm

Today we received a message saying that our banner was inappropriate. Our BANNER RIGHTS WERE IMMEDIATELY STRIPPED without a warning. Our banner has been up for months without a problem.  This is clear discrimination against my old friendchers and I declare this to be a hate crime. Unicorns have been referred to in mythology since the times of ancient Greece, in addition our banner features a bow and arrow which was used in medieval times. I request that our banner rights be reinstated immediately. I call upon all fun lovers, unicorn lovers, and ranged players across all nations to rise up in support of our cause.

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Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicorn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicorn)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_and_arrow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_and_arrow)
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: TurmoilTom on April 18, 2013, 08:54:58 pm
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It's so cuuute!
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Phantasmal on April 18, 2013, 08:57:00 pm
never forget. 4/18/2013

Edit: (or EU 18/4/2013)
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: no_rules_just_play on April 18, 2013, 09:09:26 pm
never forget. 4/18/2013.
18/04/2013*
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Wesleysnipes on April 18, 2013, 09:16:10 pm
How is this banner taken down but Cup457 banner is still up? Beautiful unicorn warrior vs 2 second paint banner...
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Phantasmal on April 18, 2013, 09:18:04 pm
As of this post a petition list will be started to free our banner. FREE THE DERPICORN 2013! SAY YES TO FUN! +1 to be added to the list!

Signed:
-Phantasmal_Damsel_Astralis (aka The_Last_Eastern_Warrior)
-Frumpty_Dumpty_ATTS (fellow comrade and glorious leader)
-CrazyCracka420 (as the name implies, a crazy white man. Would not want to cross him *hint hint*)
-WesleySnipes (Man is a legend)
-Havelle Registered Voter (Fellow fun lover and arbalesteer RIP)
-Fringe (who is this guy?)
-Arysoakheart (fellow victim of the infamous banner purge of 2013)
-Gmnotutoo (fellow unicorn at arms)
-Brrrak (One cool felon fellow)
-Benkei (O loyal vassal of Yoshitsune and most fearsome warrior) I really hope you use a hafted/LHB for RP.
-AKhooey (EU IDK)
-Canuck (1H cav whirlwind of death)
-Maeday (cool cat and awesome bro-coder)
-dynamike dynamite
-FRANK THE TANK (speaks for itself)
-JihadistMexican (I think you may be confused)
-LordRichRich (cRPG millionaire)
-To Kill A Dead Horse (how do you out of curiosity?)
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 18, 2013, 09:23:07 pm
Free the banner, always take the shot (or the stab).

It is signed, I can only approved
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: DontBanPup on April 18, 2013, 09:54:03 pm
Devs can suck Zardoz dick
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: SMEGMAR on April 18, 2013, 11:23:00 pm
I can't understand how this is inappropriate yet cum with a smiley face is not.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: brunoII on April 18, 2013, 11:37:09 pm
I think the banner should be free ..... (the important thing is not to offend anyone and do not exhibit racist politicians etc ...), the original banner give a touch of color to the game (this is also an expression of art and fantasy) is a game and therefore should be fun. :D
BrunoII
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Hirlok on April 19, 2013, 12:02:06 am
DAFUQ - this is just another one of those "fuck-the-archers-over" nerf. Now they even nerf our banners... Scared by a single horn...

Get dat Uniderpicorn back, NOW, I demandz it.

BTW - dat PC thing is getting worse in EU as well, it seems. Anything and everything is fucking inappropriate.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Kuujis on April 19, 2013, 12:03:19 am
While risking being called a turd or some such.... :rolleyes:

Fuck this pinkish "amazing horse" banner.

And while you fuck that amazing horse - here is a song to take along -

Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: In Cauda Venenum on April 19, 2013, 04:46:53 am
i mean, you made an attempt to have fun, which is arguably the worst crime you can commit in this shit game.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Harrys Oil Can on April 19, 2013, 04:56:21 am
I can't understand how this is inappropriate yet cum with a smiley face is not.
That has been taken off as well.
They want to kill your SEMEN!!!
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Canuck on April 19, 2013, 04:57:37 am
A few banners were purged, not only yours. That said, they should really all be allowed back. I don't think anybody really minded seeing the derpicorn or the smiley semen.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: ArysOakheart on April 19, 2013, 04:58:32 am
I wonder if we will hear anything from the devs about this? or will they just send an admin crony to explain it for them?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Gmnotutoo on April 19, 2013, 04:58:51 am
As the leading Unicorn expert please allow the derpicorn banner. It is cute and I like to think they pay homage to my clan. :(
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Malaclypse on April 19, 2013, 05:00:06 am
BANners.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Zaren on April 19, 2013, 05:02:26 am
Signed by Zaren

ps.Devs are being poopyheads :(
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Canuck on April 19, 2013, 05:12:50 am
Just to clarify, for those waiting on a response.
http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/the-great-banner-purge/
There was no set time for the purging as far as I know. It started in June, and it goes for all of eternity.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Taser on April 19, 2013, 05:21:43 am
It is signed, I can only approved
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Rikthor on April 19, 2013, 05:23:26 am
Signed, it's time for the no fun police to stop worrying about banners.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: ArysOakheart on April 19, 2013, 05:23:51 am
We will probably establish more banner guidelines as we go, to give people an idea what's ok and what not. That will take time to figure out, though. For those with some, use common sense meanwhile.

Almost a year and still only vague banner guidelines.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Bootie on April 19, 2013, 05:37:12 am
Fuck devs always making the game worst GOOD JOB SUCKA
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Pentecost on April 19, 2013, 05:39:09 am
I can understand purging banners that are pornographic or intentionally provocative, but removing things just because they don't correspond to your narrow view of what heraldry is supposed to be? That's some SCA-level nonsense right there. What this video game needs is more clans that adopt the name and coat of arms (but nothing else) of some increasingly obscure knightly order (because all of the famous ones were already taken), amirite?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Shaksie on April 19, 2013, 05:49:33 am
Agreed, I once made a very nice banner with a Dragon (historically accurate.) and I was cast down.

Fight back against the fascist anti-banner government!
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Brrrak on April 19, 2013, 08:23:03 am
Petition is signed, can only approved, or whatever.

Fuck hyperrealism nerd circlejerking.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: ArysOakheart on April 19, 2013, 08:56:09 am
Perhaps for their new game. This mod is still in beta right? They haven't even completed a mod for a game, yet they want money for a new game? How many years has this mod been out for?

Edit:  Do these devs not realize we will be the main playerbase at the start of this new game? Or do they think it will be sooooo revolutionary that our influence will be null?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Oberyn on April 19, 2013, 09:43:33 am
Who's "us"? The obvious trolls giggling like schoolgirls because their banners have anthropomorphic sperm and cuddly unicorns on it? What makes you think this is the "main" playerbase of crpg, and not a subset of 4chan/goon fanboys out to ruin the atmosphere of the game because it's "fun" to them, just like it's "fun" to ruin every other thing. Devs went through the trouble of setting up a system where people could have their own banners, they can very well choose what type of banner is acceptable.

They could just go back to a pre-approved list of appropriate banners like it was in the past and practically every other warband mod, then they wouldn't have to deal with retarded bronies and trolls trying to put the latest internet meme on a banner for shits and giggles. That would suck for all the people who legitimately used the banner system, but they're not the "main" playerbase of course, the 'tarded trolls are  :rolleyes:.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: ArysOakheart on April 19, 2013, 10:20:42 am
I guess this "troll" clan has just been around for a year and a half, not contributing anything to the community. Fuck you.

Here is your troll banner. visitors can't see pics , please register or login


Edit:  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Phantasmal on April 19, 2013, 10:21:45 am
Who's "us"? The obvious trolls giggling like schoolgirls because their banners have anthropomorphic sperm and cuddly unicorns on it? What makes you think this is the "main" playerbase of crpg, and not a subset of 4chan/goon fanboys out to ruin the atmosphere of the game because it's "fun" to them, just like it's "fun" to ruin every other thing. Devs went through the trouble of setting up a system where people could have their own banners, they can very well choose what type of banner is acceptable.

They could just go back to a pre-approved list of appropriate banners like it was in the past and practically every other warband mod, then they wouldn't have to deal with retarded bronies and trolls trying to put the latest internet meme on a banner for shits and giggles. That would suck for all the people who legitimately used the banner system, but they're not the "main" playerbase of course, the 'tarded trolls are  :rolleyes:.

-I am sorry that the small blurb over my head "ruined" your in-game immersion.
-Where did I ever make a claim about the "main" player base of cRPG? I will make one now though: I do not believe the average cRPG player cares.
-I highly doubt the devs will remove the banner system because I put a stupid looking unicorn on my purchased banner slot or else they would not be regulating it.
-I am sorry I tried to have fun. Obviously you know how to have fun best Oberyn, will you teach me?
-Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't you also a troll on the forums?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Penguin on April 19, 2013, 10:28:39 am
I don't see anything wrong with the peasant banner. Compared to theirs, the current EU Merc banner has an image that really looks computerized and not something that would appear in medieval heraldry, yet it still remains. This isn't a knock on the Mercs, but if the devs want to enforce a stricter banner policy, at least be consistent across the board.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Oberyn on April 19, 2013, 11:31:27 am
Phantasmal, when I reply to a post that is right above mine, it's pretty obvious I am responding to it.
The devs decide the criteria on what banners are acceptable. Apparently it's the devs that feel that certain banners ruin the immersion and the atmosphere of the game they want to create. I happen to agree. If it's such a barrier to your enjoyment of the game, and a sizeable number of other people feel likewise, maybe you can get them to change their opinion.
The idea that all banners have to be historically correct heraldry for the era is bullshit. As Penguin points out, the Merc banner is not a stylized representation but a realistic comp generated design. It would be out of place if that was the criteria. Personally I don't see much wrong with Ary's peasant banner appart from the offensive purple vomit, but that's mostly a subjective esthetic call. It fits the theme of his clan, which itself fits well into Warband and cRPG. Peasants with pitchforks are a stapple of the game. There's a world of difference between that and some of the other banners that got banned.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Macropus on April 19, 2013, 12:17:43 pm
While some of these banners look really cool and well-made, I realize they don't fit the medieval theme and style. If devs want to make it more realistic, I totally understand why these were removed.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Berserkadin on April 19, 2013, 12:22:49 pm
You forgot that cRPG isnt about being fun anymore, it's about being totally fucking serious and "mature". And I'm serious, fuck you neckbeards, go play some LARP's or whatever pieces of shit.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Prpavi on April 19, 2013, 12:42:52 pm
never forget. 4/18/2013

Edit: (or EU 18/4/2013)

never understood this.

why month, day, year.

I understand Japanese for example, they go year, month, day from biggest to smallest, just like in their society, God, emperor, shogun ...

Europeans go smallest to biggest, but American way makes no sense to me at all.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Micah on April 19, 2013, 12:46:12 pm
Whats about the fun for the devs?! They too want to have some fun, playing with their toys and showing off here and there? Why you want to ruin their fun? Do you not love them at least as much as your unicorns ?  :mrgreen:

jk ... but in all seriousness, the picture is cute but no banner picture, that you should be able to understand - and its NOT about what other stupid banners are allowed around(!) . At some point there has to be made the cut for whats appropriate or not .... I suggest you compromise and make a somewhat less freaky comic style/MEME version. Look at it as a challenge and a way to deal with the situation and the other parties in the game, stubborness is not a virtue of real unicorns but harmony is  ;)

EDIT: you could still use the picture as a forum avatar or signature or so , if you want it to be your mascot ;)
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Overdriven on April 19, 2013, 01:01:43 pm
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I would have allowed this. It's too awesome.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Berserkadin on April 19, 2013, 03:04:05 pm
I can't really understand why certain people need to care so much about what banners other people use and then forbid them to use certain unserious banners because they're uptight assholes. Anyone here who can give some kind of not retarded reason except that you're a fucking sperglord?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: partyboy on April 19, 2013, 05:00:27 pm
Signed in solidarity.  BIRD CLAN's banner was also deemed unacceptable.

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Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: En_Dotter on April 19, 2013, 05:01:24 pm
I would like to use this banner now. The thing is it has been used by the Hungarian gentleman Istvan Varallyay:
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Source: The Illustrated book of Heraldry by Stephen Slater, page 89

Also u can find a rather small info on wiki: http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A1jl:Coa_Hungary_Family_Mocking_arms_V%C3%A1rallyay_%281599%29.svg
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on April 19, 2013, 06:03:34 pm
You can't possibly remove banners for not being realistic enough unless they're Red Eagle style unless mercs lose their banner.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: dynamike on April 19, 2013, 06:18:28 pm
I APPROVE IN THE NAME OF FREEDOM FUN UNICORNS!
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Kafein on April 19, 2013, 06:28:53 pm
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I'd like to hear the argument that motivated the removal of this banner.

I would like to use this banner now. The thing is it has been used by the Hungarian gentleman Istvan Varallyay:
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Source: The Illustrated book of Heraldry by Stephen Slater, page 89

Also u can find a rather small info on wiki: http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A1jl:Coa_Hungary_Family_Mocking_arms_V%C3%A1rallyay_%281599%29.svg

Do. It.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: [ptx] on April 19, 2013, 06:29:51 pm
I would like to use this banner now. The thing is it has been used by the Hungarian gentleman Istvan Varallyay:
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Source: The Illustrated book of Heraldry by Stephen Slater, page 89

Also u can find a rather small info on wiki: http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A1jl:Coa_Hungary_Family_Mocking_arms_V%C3%A1rallyay_%281599%29.svg
That's a coat of arms, not a banner?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Falka on April 19, 2013, 07:02:42 pm
Perhaps for their new game. This mod is still in beta right? They haven't even completed a mod for a game, yet they want money for a new game? How many years has this mod been out for?

Edit:  Do these devs not realize we will be the main playerbase at the start of this new game? Or do they think it will be sooooo revolutionary that our influence will be null?

I like ppl like you, I really do. Instead of being happy that devs in their free time try to improve this game, you come here and whine like a little bitch. And what this "they haven't completed a mod" shit means according to you? Is cRPG unplayable or what? Maybe you should go and tell Blizzard that they haven't completed WoW too, cause they add sth to the game all the time, though they released it like 10 years ago? Also, did u give devs money for their game? No? So what are you crying about?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: zagibu on April 19, 2013, 07:20:40 pm
Oh no, someone took away freedom from Americans! PREPARE THE NUKES!

Seriously, why is it 90% of NA players complaining about it in this thread, while EU is mostly silent or supports the purging of derp banners? I know why, btw, it's a rhetorical question.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Phantasmal on April 19, 2013, 07:27:52 pm
Oh no, someone took away freedom from Americans! PREPARE THE NUKES!

Seriously, why is it 90% of NA players complaining about it in this thread, while EU is mostly silent or supports the purging of derp banners? I know why, btw, it's a rhetorical question.

I would prefer that my thread not be derailed by a critique of NA players and EU players. Not only is this counterproductive but some people seem to have deep feelings about these kind of claims. Please take your European superiority/American superiority arguments elsewhere.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: En_Dotter on April 19, 2013, 07:32:40 pm
That's a coat of arms, not a banner?
It cant be coat of arms yet. It doesnt have supporters and it doesnt have a motto. So it can be a banner or an amblem or w/e else. But it aint coat of arms.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: zagibu on April 19, 2013, 07:35:29 pm
I would prefer that my thread not be derailed by a critique of NA players and EU players. Not only is this counterproductive but some people seem to have deep feelings about these kind of claims. Please take your European superiority/American superiority arguments elsewhere.

Okay, let's keep nationality out of it, then. So we have troll banner supporters that whine because their freedom was taken away, and we have those that understand why this is necessary.

BTW: If trolling wasn't your main goal with such banners, you would simply make a banner that follows the guidelines, and then edit the banner texture file locally, so you could have your derp banner without infringing on the banner rules. But here you are whining about your freedom of trolling being restricted instead.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: ROHYPNOL on April 19, 2013, 07:42:31 pm
I can't understand how this is inappropriate yet cum with a smiley face is not.

Do not mention the Ss banner when you are 1 of many of to start putting up funny banners after ours. We started this, so we should get to keep ours because it is original. You are all merely copycats, and are the ones that also got our banner remove, THIS IS BULLSHIT
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Little Lord Lollipop on April 19, 2013, 09:23:24 pm
I'm sorry that the uniderp in the FLOATING BUBBLE OVER MY HEAD ruined your sense of immersion.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: cmp on April 19, 2013, 09:27:33 pm
I would like to use this banner now. The thing is it has been used by the Hungarian gentleman Istvan Varallyay:
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Uh, feel free? I don't see anything wrong with it.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Kafein on April 19, 2013, 09:55:02 pm
Uh, feel free? I don't see anything wrong with it.

But that doesn't mean all people that can ban it will agree :?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: cmp on April 19, 2013, 10:41:06 pm
all people that can ban it

 :lol:
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Kafein on April 19, 2013, 10:47:35 pm
:lol:

 :lol:

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Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: [ptx] on April 19, 2013, 11:02:47 pm
Maybe cmp has an imaginary friend that he consults. Apart from that...
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: kasMVC on April 19, 2013, 11:20:22 pm
Why are you trying to force realism in terms of banners? No one in this game eats poops or drinks water. Horses are never groomed. I haven't once shaved my pubic hairs. If Eu enjoys being serious and immersed in lore and culture go ahead. But most of us in NA don't play this game for that reason. I enjoy seeing all of the customized banners. It add lights to this otherwise dark miserable community of spergs.


Why are the devs trying to shove their beliefs down our throats. If NA wants to keep their banners why are EU's commenting? Why won't the devs let us have what we want?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Falka on April 19, 2013, 11:45:17 pm
Why are you trying to force realism in terms of banners?
Why are the devs trying to shove their beliefs down our throats.
Why won't the devs let us have what we want?

Because

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Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Neggaz on April 19, 2013, 11:58:14 pm
they should put a vote for thoses kind of changes i say so we could settle this
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: cmp on April 19, 2013, 11:58:37 pm
Why are you trying to force realism in terms of banners?

Yes, deleting banners with pink unicorns and smiling sperm is trying to force realism.
Fuck the police.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: To Kill A Dead Horse on April 20, 2013, 12:06:50 am
Free tux banner?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Delson on April 20, 2013, 12:25:56 am
I would like to use this banner now. The thing is it has been used by the Hungarian gentleman Istvan Varallyay:
visitors can't see pics , please register or login


Source: The Illustrated book of Heraldry by Stephen Slater, page 89

Also u can find a rather small info on wiki: http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A1jl:Coa_Hungary_Family_Mocking_arms_V%C3%A1rallyay_%281599%29.svg


Welp.... I was bored 

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Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Canuck on April 20, 2013, 12:38:45 am

Welp.... I was bored 

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Solidarity! Unite the revolution under one banner!
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: zagibu on April 20, 2013, 12:59:48 am
I'm sorry that the uniderp in the FLOATING BUBBLE OVER MY HEAD ruined your sense of immersion.

I have banners disabled. Because the floating bubble ruins my sense of immersion no matter what banner is displayed within. But the banner is also displayed on heraldic armors and shields, so your point is kinda moot.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Gurnisson on April 20, 2013, 01:07:16 am
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B wing. That's awesome!
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Little Lord Lollipop on April 20, 2013, 08:31:47 am
I have banners disabled. Because the floating bubble ruins my sense of immersion no matter what banner is displayed within. But the banner is also displayed on heraldic armors and shields, so your point is kinda moot.

We are an archer clan, we spend maybe 1% (thats generous) of our total play time with heraldic armor....so your point is kinda moot.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Prpavi on April 20, 2013, 08:43:42 am
Yes, deleting banners with pink unicorns and smiling sperm is trying to force realism.
Fuck the police.

I honestly don't see your criteria here, how is pink unicors better or worse then a mans torso displayed on heraldic or a tuxedo? Even saw a Batman logo over someones head.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Nordwolf on April 20, 2013, 08:50:15 am
I see the point, innapropriate or too modern stylised stuff is removed. To be accepted it should at least look like a banner but not like just an image.

Well, about that hand with a fish.... I really don't like it, but I don't see why should it be removed.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: In Cauda Venenum on April 20, 2013, 09:19:43 am
no, devs are right.

in a game where you sword fight by seizuring as hard as you can, the one thing that really breaks my immersion is when I see something that looks like it might instill joy in someone, somewhere.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Berserkadin on April 20, 2013, 09:58:33 am
I have banners disabled. Because the floating bubble ruins my sense of immersion no matter what banner is displayed within. But the banner is also displayed on heraldic armors and shields, so your point is kinda moot.
So you're saying that your feeling of immersion is alot more important than anyone else fun?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: zagibu on April 20, 2013, 10:17:46 am
I already told you a way to keep your banner, you can edit the file client side and then you will have your derpy banner and I will have my immersion. But wait, suddenly derp banners aren't so attractive anymore when "sperglords" don't even see them, right?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Sparvico on April 20, 2013, 11:09:23 am
This whole banner purge business is nonsense. If there were clear guidelines, and then if they were followed consistently and promptly, perhaps it would not be such a big deal. Currently the banner purge is a simple matter of taste. It is not about realism (and I actually know about historical accuracy in heraldry), it isn't about vulgarity (sperm removal is, but unicorn removal?) and it certainly isn't about the quality/texturing of banners (cup clan, mercs). It is simply about what a certain few that have control over it find offensive to their personal tastes. And it's their game so, basically, fuck you.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Rumblood on April 20, 2013, 05:24:57 pm
I see the point, innapropriate or too modern stylised stuff is removed. To be accepted it should at least look like a banner but not like just an image.

Well, about that hand with a fish.... I really don't like it, but I don't see why should it be removed.

Post that fist with fish banner up so I can see it again. I don't recall anything wrong with it either, and of the many banners I HAVE seen, it was the most "medieval themed" that I've seen from people.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: DUKE DICKBUTT on April 20, 2013, 09:35:00 pm
Yes, deleting banners with pink unicorns and smiling sperm is trying to force realism.
Fuck the police.

But a guy with sunglasses from a late 90's movie is OK?

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Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Hirlok on April 20, 2013, 10:07:18 pm
But a guy with sunglasses from a late 90's movie is OK?

of course.

And if you were to use some of the imagery found on Irish high crosses or in medieval scriptures (not just European, but Eastern with some fancy coloring....) it would probably get deleted. Just as if you used the dead-ugly colors the "classic" Greek statues were originally painted with... believe me, a pink unicorn is in no way out of style.

What someone said earlier: clear guidelines that make sense instead of arbitrary bs "purges", or even better just leave the fucking banners alone....

My sense of immersion really gets screwed more by manga-style agi bitches with heavy polearms swinging 23 times per second or my arrows getting stuck in mid air 2 feet above a castle wall.

I really prefer some sperm banners (not to talk about our beloveth unicorn) compared to that not so immersive bs.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Harrys Oil Can on April 20, 2013, 10:59:40 pm
There is a tranny procedure on auction right now, but semen on a banner is not ok?!?!?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Keshian on April 21, 2013, 12:23:36 am
BRING BACK UNICORNS - STOP THE EVIL INTERNET NAZZIIS OF 2013 AND THEIR PURGE OF ARCHERS BEFORE THEY DO THE FINAL SOLUTION!!!
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Kafein on April 21, 2013, 12:34:50 am
Also, this commotion has inflated the price of banner slots to 150k, exactly when it was my turn :(
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Phantasmal on April 21, 2013, 05:00:37 am
Okay, let's keep nationality out of it, then. So we have troll banner supporters that whine because their freedom was taken away, and we have those that understand why this is necessary.

BTW: If trolling wasn't your main goal with such banners, you would simply make a banner that follows the guidelines, and then edit the banner texture file locally, so you could have your derp banner without infringing on the banner rules. But here you are whining about your freedom of trolling being restricted instead.

Now this was a good argument and I think I have a response. Part of the reason we enjoyed using the banner was because it said something about our group of people. It said that we liked to have fun, that we weren't angry tryhards nor spergy nerds. Is that not the reason everyone uses banners, to say something about themselves? To have some sense of identity? Using a pre-made banner says nothing about your clan other then the fact that you are too poor to afford a banner slot. When we banner stacked we didn't troll entire servers, we played by the rules and helped our team. Is that not what really matters in the end?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on April 21, 2013, 06:27:13 am
Now this was a good argument and I think I have a response. Part of the reason we enjoyed using the banner was because it said something about our group of people. It said that we liked to have fun, that we weren't angry tryhards nor spergy nerds. Is that not the reason everyone uses banners, to say something about themselves? To have some sense of identity? Using a pre-made banner says nothing about your clan other then the fact that you are too poor to afford a banner slot. When we banner stacked we didn't troll entire servers, we played by the rules and helped our team. Is that not what really matters in the end?
Needing to say that makes you a spergy tryhard, sorry.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Zaren on April 21, 2013, 06:58:26 am
Yes, deleting banners with pink unicorns and smiling sperm is trying to force realism.
Fuck the police.
ok i can see the unicorn and the sperm(although i liked them :( ).....but what the fuck was wrong with the FPOF one? it was perfectly fine, a fist holding a fish?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Overdriven on April 21, 2013, 07:37:04 am
Did Mercs banner get removed?
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: no_rules_just_play on April 21, 2013, 10:00:45 am
Did Mercs banner get removed?
no
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Overdriven on April 21, 2013, 10:21:24 am
Well then why did this one get removed? Mercs is just as bad.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: zagibu on April 21, 2013, 11:58:56 am
Now this was a good argument and I think I have a response. Part of the reason we enjoyed using the banner was because it said something about our group of people. It said that we liked to have fun, that we weren't angry tryhards nor spergy nerds. Is that not the reason everyone uses banners, to say something about themselves? To have some sense of identity? Using a pre-made banner says nothing about your clan other then the fact that you are too poor to afford a banner slot. When we banner stacked we didn't troll entire servers, we played by the rules and helped our team. Is that not what really matters in the end?

Everything in your post can be achieved by a regular custom non-troll banner. Except the provocation of "angry tryhards" and "spergy nerds". You are not really making a good case for yourself here.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Hirlok on April 21, 2013, 01:51:13 pm
Blahfuckingblah.

Fact is: some absurd and/or creative banners are "purged", some not. Makes no sense.
And obviously the purgatory immersion fetish folks  don't give a fuck about game realism otherwise - and have no clue about how colorful and creative and obscene imagery (or heraldry) in medieval times actually was.

For ATTS, this might be a nice replacement (all images from medieval sources):
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or full image incl. shooter here: http://d.pr/i/yhLS

for the "dear admin in charge of banners" this good medieval practice might be recommended:
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inside the mind of cav players:
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and my general thoughts about the banner matter:
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Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: cmp on April 21, 2013, 02:01:47 pm
Funny thing is, none of those would be removed. Maybe check your facts before trying to make a point.
And learn to use spoilers.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Sparvico on April 21, 2013, 02:04:29 pm
And that is the problem cmp, currently no on really knows what is allowed and what is not. If your going to limit someone's creative freedom at least have guidelines that are followed on a consistent basis. Removing a couple of banners (some that perhaps shouldn't have been) every once in a blue moon is not consistent.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: cmp on April 21, 2013, 02:07:26 pm
Yeah, we'll have guidelines sooner or later. In the meantime, if you're unsure whether your banner is legit or not, you can assume it's not.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Sparvico on April 21, 2013, 02:09:32 pm
The banner purge has been active for almost a year now. Forgive me if I have doubts about the establishment of clear guidelines.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: cmp on April 21, 2013, 02:10:35 pm
Yeah, that's why I used "sooner or later".
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Sparvico on April 21, 2013, 02:15:04 pm
Alrighty, thats good. although i think you could have left out the sooner.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: GiuseppeBlackRose on April 21, 2013, 02:21:07 pm
Yeah, that's why I used "sooner or later".
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Sparvico on April 21, 2013, 02:42:15 pm
At least cmp responded to this thread. And not with an entirely unreasonable answer (though I really feel a year is a bit to long. oh well, not my game). We still haven't heard a goddamn peep about the fucking siege equipment. And I realize that is probably not your area cmp, I'm just saying no one from the dev team, as far as I have seen, has even acknowledged the problem exists.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: cmp on April 21, 2013, 03:04:57 pm
chadz should get a proper PR dude. all of these EuroDevzTM are horrendously bad at interacting with the community (esp. u paul). it's pre funny watching these threads pop up and the devs give apathetic responses every time. :-)

Let me give you a hint: if you want a 100% serious response from devs you don't start your thread with stuff like
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This is clear discrimination against my old friendchers and I declare this to be a hate crime.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: [ptx] on April 21, 2013, 03:29:06 pm
cmp is not amused.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: zagibu on April 21, 2013, 03:47:12 pm
And obviously the purgatory immersion fetish folks  don't give a fuck about game realism otherwise - and have no clue about how colorful and creative and obscene imagery (or heraldry) in medieval times actually was.

For ATTS, this might be a nice replacement (all images from medieval sources):

or full image incl. shooter here: http://d.pr/i/yhLS

for the "dear admin in charge of banners" this good medieval practice might be recommended:

inside the mind of cav players:

and my general thoughts about the banner matter:

None of these examples are banners. Just because absurd or obscene medieval art exists doesn't mean it was prevalent on banners.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Gmnotutoo on April 21, 2013, 05:33:53 pm
Yeah, we'll have guidelines sooner or later. In the meantime, if you're unsure whether your banner is legit or not, you can assume it's not.


I know what this is all about, cmp loves unicorns but is jelly he doesn't get to wear one or ride one. First CMP saw my beautiful unicorn texture, but because of a social anxiety disorder he was unable to simply ask me for it and instead will force anyone who uses textures to upload it to a database just so he can ride a unicorn too. Then CMP tried to push for a change in the Nord clan to have a cute unicorn banner, but it got denied because they thought it was to fabulous. Having to wait for his unicorn texture and not getting his unicorn banner cmp was very upset. Then one day he saw the cute derpicorn and it made him crazy from rage and envy. And that is how fun got nerfed again.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: LordLargos on April 21, 2013, 05:44:27 pm
MB's banner is a
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and you take down frumpty's unicorn banner, badmins are at it again.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Sparvico on April 21, 2013, 06:52:17 pm
Let me give you a hint: if you want a 100% serious response from devs you don't start your thread with stuff like

While I disagree I suppose I can sorta see your point. That being the case Could you please explain why this thread: http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-issues/are-catapults-fixed-yet-in-strategus-battles/  has not received any response from a dev? Even though there is a bit of shit in some later posts the OP was an earnest question that was asked in a nice enough manner ( just because it's kesh asking doesn't mean the community at large doesn't deserve an answer on a problem which has gone unacknowledged by developers for at least a month now).
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Little Lord Lollipop on April 21, 2013, 09:31:12 pm
Yeah, we'll have guidelines sooner or later. In the meantime, if you're unsure whether your banner is legit or not, you can assume it's not.

Considering the Free Peasants had their banner removed just about every clan should be worried about their banner. As it stands the rules are vague and enforced arbitrarily.
Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: Micah on April 21, 2013, 09:34:51 pm
how far will you go ?
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Title: Re: Dear admin in charge of banners
Post by: ArysOakheart on April 23, 2013, 09:09:57 am
I'll go by CMP's advice and make a banner that vaguely resembles a vagina, but since the dev team has yet to encounter such a thing, they will pass it as a medieval banner.