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Strategus => Strategus Issues => Topic started by: Matey on March 22, 2013, 06:18:12 pm

Title: Covered Flags
Post by: Matey on March 22, 2013, 06:18:12 pm
 4) Covering flags
                    4.1) covering flags with any equipment is not allowed. This includes ladders, siege shields, construction sites and anything you can produce with a construction site.

Enemy roster (Bold/italic/underlined the dev/admin on their side)
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The other team had a c-site up at their spawn for awhile, they finished the construction when we started capping their flags; we managed to get the flags down anyways so I guess it isn't a huge deal I guess...
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Kaelaen on March 22, 2013, 06:24:43 pm
C:/Users/Matey/Documents/Mount&Blade Warband/cRPG/Screenshots

I don't know why, but that part blew my mind for some reason.

-idlewind
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Syls on March 22, 2013, 07:43:29 pm
C:/Users/Matey/Documents/Mount&Blade Warband/cRPG/Screenshots

I don't know why, but that part blew my mind for some reason.

-idlewind

Don't you know? That's his real name  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Duster on March 22, 2013, 07:51:05 pm
This happens all the time, on both sides of the war, and is fairly hard to be proven intentional. Sucks, but it sounds like it wasn't an issue?
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Matey on March 22, 2013, 09:17:12 pm
This happens all the time, on both sides of the war, and is fairly hard to be proven intentional. Sucks, but it sounds like it wasn't an issue?

I haven't seen it quite like this before during the war, though I've missed plenty of fights. I have seen large siege towers cover flags but then get moved off them as they were constructed when no enemies were really pushing at flags. This one was built just as we made our big push at the end and since the latest patch the towers no longer have wheels. It didn't save them this time as I guess there is a mechanic where flags will go down if enough people are killed on top of them? so it wasn't really a big deal I guess, but it was disappointing to see it occur when the enemy team had two people who should have prevented it from occurring as it is stated to be against the rules in strat.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Mongolista on March 22, 2013, 10:29:43 pm
This is clearly a bannable offence on EU, both blocks are actually paying huge attention to it as they know it is bannable and in case any person is stupid enough to do it, they get shouted at on TS and the item is immediately destroyed by his own team. I can't possibly understand a situation with two GMs/devs in the team and this shit still happening, I would seriously reconsider their privileges.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Penguin on March 22, 2013, 10:38:08 pm
This should be under ban requests, though the admins bolded will likely feign ignorance, I'm not surprised to see one name in particular once again up to misdeeds.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Tydeus on March 22, 2013, 11:01:02 pm
Enemy roster (Bold/italic/underlined the dev/admin on their side)
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Wow, all things considered, I had a pretty good K:D.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Bronto on March 23, 2013, 12:09:58 am
Everything is a conspiracy and they're out to get you!

Paranoia aside, this was not intentional. I has friends on both sides and they were trying to build a tower for their archers, the wheels were bugged. it's pretty simple stuff and actually worked to our advantage by forcing them to spawn inside the tower for free kills and get pummeled by arrow volleys.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Mongolista on March 23, 2013, 02:27:43 am
I dont know dude, Im pretty sure archers would have used the "half" sky ladders (that are allowed) for their advantage as they do in all the battles, they wouldnt build the whole tower coz of it...paranoia is one thing, obvious exploit another, I mean how can anybody really try to question this?? Not to mention this "funny" little note by Tydeus not trying to explain anything, just laughing in Matey's face:)
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Pappy on March 23, 2013, 03:16:44 am
This was a chinese faction with like 10 languages spoken in teamspeak, the left hand had no idea what the right was doing. There was no tactics, no organization. This battle was fought like a na-1 random battle with disorganization  and random respawns just streaming into you. The seige tower was started at the very beginning of the battle, and by sheer luck was even finished at all. It was supposed to go up next to the flags, not over them. it was supposed to be used to protect archers from your troops. All it did is serve as a tomb, and didnt slow you down any in finishing the match. The admins and everyone else didnt know it was even being built, other then being discussed that we SHOULD build one near the flags.. since our whole tactic was fight close to flags to hold them. Someone mentioned they were building one at the beginning of the match, and 95% of our team was just as surprised at the end to see it actually go up 60 seconds before our death. You were down to shit for troops before it went up so it didnt cost you 100s of deaths or anything, you were still able to spawn camp us, and you still won.. and yes seige equipment is bugged as fuck with wierd random shit happening with it.. so.. whats the point of this thread? XP was made, sand got in vaginas, and people cried. Isn't that what Strat is all about?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Smoothrich on March 23, 2013, 03:22:21 am
Do you want people mass banned?  Its just a videogame with some buggy elements and no one can be held responsible ultimately.  Why go through the effort.  Do you feel the need for cRPG justice because a tower got pushed by a flag maybe in some battle that ultimately No One Gives A Shit About?
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: MURDERTRON on March 23, 2013, 03:49:36 am
How bout just a pink text that says "Defending side, stop what you're doing now, and destroy the siege tower" then do further warnings for those who continue to fight and kicks or bans for those who don't listen to the admins.  We could not get so much as a pink text message about this, despite me being very polite in admin messages.

There were also multiple siege ladders over flags that I admin messaged about and there were no admin messages.  Eventually it got taken care of, about 5 minutes later.  These admins were really dropping the ball compared to Canary, who either destroys the offending equipment himself or pink texts until its taken care of.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Matey on March 23, 2013, 04:19:43 am
Do you want people mass banned?  Its just a videogame with some buggy elements and no one can be held responsible ultimately.  Why go through the effort.  Do you feel the need for cRPG justice because a tower got pushed by a flag maybe in some battle that ultimately No One Gives A Shit About?

It turned out pretty minor but it could have really messed with things; since there were multiple admins on their side it simply should not have happened. If admins aren't even following the rules then how can we expect anyone else to?

p.s. as for what to do about it... It would be nice if the admins who allowed it would at least give their side of the story and admit their mistake, maybe assure us that rules are actually there for a reason (though considering some past events I am beginning to wonder...) other than to handicap those who follow them while rewarding those who do not.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Pappy on March 23, 2013, 04:57:23 am
So.. it would be better for the entire battle to PAUSE, and destroy siege tower?! Giving the defenders a chance to fully re spawn and regroup SINCE they did OUTNUMBER you with tickets... and possibly cost you the battle when you were winning at that point and the battle was lost on our side for sure... Wouldnt you be on here crying about how the admins stopped the battle, gave the defenders a chance to regroup, and then they kicked your ass costing you the battle? They dont go to your job, slap the dick out of your mouth, and tell you how to suck it. So why not just be happy you won, instead of crying for justice where no injustice exists. Also ONE ladder was placed over flags, dont know who did it but the admin on our Teamspeak did break it.. and tell them not to do it.. and it wasnt done again.. and 5 minutes is a massive exageration but its your story, tell it how you want.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: MURDERTRON on March 23, 2013, 05:00:52 am
So.. it would be better for the entire battle to PAUSE, and destroy siege tower?! Giving the defenders a chance to fully re spawn and regroup SINCE they did OUTNUMBER you with tickets... and possibly cost you the battle when you were winning at that point and the battle was lost on our side for sure... Wouldnt you be on here crying about how the admins stopped the battle, gave the defenders a chance to regroup, and then they kicked your ass costing you the battle? I dont go to your job, slap the dick out of your mouth, and tell you how to suck it. So why not just be happy you won, instead of crying for justice where no injustice exists.

If your team is in violation, yes.  Should the non-offenders have to suffer instead when they are playing fairly?

Why are you bringing penises into this conversation?
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Pappy on March 23, 2013, 05:12:23 am
I wouldn't care either way, i dont have a horse in this race.. just some xp and fun to me..but it seems it would give defenders a massive advantage with our long respawn timers to be able to regroup just to destroy a tower. I just find this whole thread to be stupid, yet amusing someone would rage after winning. Seems more targeted and personal then caring about the event or an explanation, and since the whole roster was named as offenders.. I felt obligated to respond. But I wash my hands of this troll thread.

And perhaps it was a bad analogy, but the point still remains the same.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Keshian on March 23, 2013, 05:57:13 am
This was a chinese faction with like 10 languages spoken in teamspeak, the left hand had no idea what the right was doing. There was no tactics, no organization.

Actually we were commenting in the beginning on ts how the 7-8 chinese guys you hired were all dropped from the "chinese faction" battle and fraichedan (badplayer) and syikjae (shik) were the only heavenly kingdom members left on roster.  Had more organized groups than us  - 8 kapikulu, 6 drz, 4 semenstorm, etc., pretty organized by clan lines.  Someone made decision to throw construction site on top of a flag and then all the people there not only ignored it blocking the flag they were spawning on so they would spawn on top of it - they actually threw 65 construction material into afterwards with the help of several people, then when people started spawning in the siege tower not one admin did anything.  yes we won, but just because we won despite it doesn't make it something that should eb looke into and made sure that admins stop it in the nub the next time this happens on your side or on the other side during a strat battle.

It needs to become ingrained to destroy stuff  illegally blocking flags as soon as you see it happen.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on March 23, 2013, 06:12:27 am
So.. it would be better for the entire battle to PAUSE, and destroy siege tower?! Giving the defenders a chance to fully re spawn and regroup SINCE they did OUTNUMBER you with tickets... and possibly cost you the battle when you were winning at that point and the battle was lost on our side for sure... Wouldnt you be on here crying about how the admins stopped the battle, gave the defenders a chance to regroup, and then they kicked your ass costing you the battle? They dont go to your job, slap the dick out of your mouth, and tell you how to suck it. So why not just be happy you won, instead of crying for justice where no injustice exists. Also ONE ladder was placed over flags, dont know who did it but the admin on our Teamspeak did break it.. and tell them not to do it.. and it wasnt done again.. and 5 minutes is a massive exageration but its your story, tell it how you want.

Fukken GOTTEM.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: MURDERTRON on March 23, 2013, 06:39:24 am
I wouldn't care either way, i dont have a horse in this race.. just some xp and fun to me..but it seems it would give defenders a massive advantage with our long respawn timers to be able to regroup just to destroy a tower. I just find this whole thread to be stupid, yet amusing someone would rage after winning. Seems more targeted and personal then caring about the event or an explanation, and since the whole roster was named as offenders.. I felt obligated to respond. But I wash my hands of this troll thread.

And perhaps it was a bad analogy, but the point still remains the same.

So what you're saying is the admins should pick and choose rules for when it is convenient for their clans? Well, thanks for your input.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Matey on March 23, 2013, 06:45:17 am
I wouldn't care either way, i dont have a horse in this race.. just some xp and fun to me..but it seems it would give defenders a massive advantage with our long respawn timers to be able to regroup just to destroy a tower. I just find this whole thread to be stupid, yet amusing someone would rage after winning. Seems more targeted and personal then caring about the event or an explanation, and since the whole roster was named as offenders.. I felt obligated to respond. But I wash my hands of this troll thread.

And perhaps it was a bad analogy, but the point still remains the same.

You seem to misunderstand. This wasn't a rage thread; it was more of a "Hey, this happened, just thought devs/admins should be aware". I don't want to see anyone banned or whatever, it just shouldn't have happened and will hopefully not happen again.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Canuck on March 23, 2013, 07:27:26 am
I was on the YYY side for this one, and I just figured I'd put another perspective in here. There really was no organization whatsoever in this battle. While there were not many of the actual Chinese people there, the communication barrier was still present as many of the people there were speaking Turkish, Russian, and I believe Ukrainian. You likely saw how disorganized we were while fighting you, perpetually attacking aside from a few loosely made impromptu shield walls. While I don't know about ladders being thrown down on the flags, although there was some argument over the sky ladders, the siege tower really did come out of nowhere for most of us. After it appeared there were a few attempts made to move it. The reason we were all spawning in it at the end was because all the other flags were down. I'm new to strat battles, and I don't know all the rules, but from what I could see there wasn't much of a chance for us to destroy the tower ourselves, because you pushed us and basically trapped us inside the tower. I understand that the purpose of this thread was to point out a mistake made by the 2 admins present, but I don't believe it was done intentionally. There wasn't much time left, defense was running on high spawn timers and  and telling both teams to stop so they could take out a siege tower might have also been seen as being biased and favoring one side over another as well. I completely agree that people in positions of responsibility should be held accountable for both their actions and lack thereof, but in this case it seems like there was no real good choice. 
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Malaclypse on March 23, 2013, 08:05:34 am
I wasn't there for this, but it seems to me that out of all the siege stuff that could be put on flags, the tower is the one of least impact (seeing as it has built into it a mechanic to be moved by either side).
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Kelugarn on March 23, 2013, 08:23:37 am
Currently towers are bugged and cannot be moved (as far as I have seen). And judging by the photos posted here it is clear that this tower was bugged.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Pappy on March 23, 2013, 08:50:02 am
So what you're saying is the admins should pick and choose rules for when it is convenient for their clans? Well, thanks for your input.
Yes it is, and your welcome. You read between the lines in my post, and expressed my inner soul with words and meanings my fingers could not type into existence. You sir are a poet, and a scholar.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Malaclypse on March 23, 2013, 08:52:54 am
Currently towers are bugged and cannot be moved (as far as I have seen). And judging by the photos posted here it is clear that this tower was bugged.

Oh well damn, disregard my comment then. So between Catapults and Siege Towers it seems like the only way to take a castle or town right now is via ladders, pretty harsh.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Bronto on March 23, 2013, 12:27:43 pm
So many tears in this thread. Smoothrich is right, you shouldn't give a shit! It worked to your advantage, we learned towers are still borked, and it WAS a fun fight. then I read this thread and  understand why you all get so much hate. it's like you look for anything in every bayttle to bitch about. just thread after thread of whining. you do it under the guise of ell look at these admins not doing their jobs....explanations have been given and they still haven't satisfied your nerdlust for extreme vigilante style nerd justice. give it a rest all ready. for the sake of the community please quit being bitches.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: MURDERTRON on March 23, 2013, 03:33:30 pm
So many tears in this thread. Smoothrich is right, you shouldn't give a shit! It worked to your advantage, we learned towers are still borked, and it WAS a fun fight. then I read this thread and  understand why you all get so much hate. it's like you look for anything in every bayttle to bitch about. just thread after thread of whining. you do it under the guise of ell look at these admins not doing their jobs....explanations have been given and they still haven't satisfied your nerdlust for extreme vigilante style nerd justice. give it a rest all ready. for the sake of the community please quit being bitches.

It's really unfortunate that you will actually take Smooth's word as gospel when it comes to admin matters.  The issue is not whether or not it changed the outcome, it is about preventing this from having a chance to ever having a chance to affect the outcome again.  That is like saying its okay to drunk drive as long as no one was hurt.  Don't pick and choose which rules are enforced, that will only let biased decisions become the regular.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Keshian on March 23, 2013, 03:35:41 pm
So many tears in this thread. Smoothrich is right, you shouldn't give a shit! It worked to your advantage, we learned towers are still borked, and it WAS a fun fight. then I read this thread and  understand why you all get so much hate. it's like you look for anything in every bayttle to bitch about. just thread after thread of whining. you do it under the guise of ell look at these admins not doing their jobs....explanations have been given and they still haven't satisfied your nerdlust for extreme vigilante style nerd justice. give it a rest all ready. for the sake of the community please quit being bitches.

Where are you getting this?  No one was saying they should get in trouble - we were simply asking for admins to pay attention so this doesn't happen in the next fight or the fight after that.  i definitely notice EU admins being more proactive in the eu fights in stopping this immediately.  So as soon as the construction site is placed on flags they type in admin chat that you need to destroy it even if they are on that team, long before the 5-10 minutes or so it takes to build a large siege tower with that csite on the flags.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Bronto on March 23, 2013, 05:24:03 pm
This is clearly a bannable offence on EU, both blocks are actually paying huge attention to it as they know it is bannable and in case any person is stupid enough to do it, they get shouted at on TS and the item is immediately destroyed by his own team. I can't possibly understand a situation with two GMs/devs in the team and this shit still happening, I would seriously reconsider their privileges.

last sentence. GF.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Mongolista on March 23, 2013, 05:40:00 pm
Im being objective, I dont know any of the guys on either side, Im just commenting on what I see. I will just ignore the stupid "quit crying you still won" argument that does not actually help in any way and ask you guys, would you really not see some people throwing 65 materials in the c. site for at least 5 minutes? when youre constantly being spawned right next to it? Im sorry but more than a whining on this thread you deserve a laugh in your face for even showing up here and seriously trying to defend this bullshit by saying "nobody knew whats going on, it came out of nowhere :O".

And sorry Brontosauce but I have no idea what GF in this context means so I cant really comment on that one.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Bronto on March 23, 2013, 05:44:29 pm
And sorry Brontosauce but I have no idea what GF in this context means so I cant really comment on that one.

no worries m8. just pointing out what you said to reinforce my previous point.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: BaleOhay on March 23, 2013, 06:05:18 pm
bronto he is an EU stating his opinion, not one of our people.

If someone accidentally tosses a construction site on a flag it is easy to notice and quick to destroy without causing issue to either team.

I do not believe it is to much to ask for the rules to be followed.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Miracle on March 23, 2013, 06:17:53 pm
I'm just wondering if they were building it for their archers, why wait until the last push when the flags are about to get capped to throw the last material on and finish building it?
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Pappy on March 23, 2013, 06:32:02 pm
The construction site never covered the flag.. or youd know that if you paid attention to earlier posts.. the tower was being placed next to them since 90% of the battle was fought extremely close to the flags being disorganized.. as you'd know if you paid attention to what was said in earlier posts..  and siege equipment is bugged.. as you'd know if you read earlier posts. I've seen buildings fly away, catapults do strange things, look at that siege tower in the picture it didn't even spawn proper.. didn't have ladders up, a ramp, a roof a lot of sides were gone. Also it was extremely chaotic with little to no communication on defenders side. Just random spawn and stream skirmish tactics. To quote the words of a wise man, quit being bitches.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Matey on March 23, 2013, 06:52:14 pm
Honestly, I don't see why you guys are being so antagonistic in this thread. "quit being bitches" no one was being a bitch. There aren't any tears here, we were all quite stoked after the victory. Murder explained the point of this thread very accurately with his comparison to drunk driving; the rules in strat/crpg shouldn't be "it is only against the rules if someone gets hurt".
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: BaleOhay on March 23, 2013, 06:59:19 pm
The construction site never covered the flag.. or youd know that if you paid attention to earlier posts.. the tower was being placed next to them since 90% of the battle was fought extremely close to the flags being disorganized.. as you'd know if you paid attention to what was said in earlier posts..  and siege equipment is bugged.. as you'd know if you read earlier posts. I've seen buildings fly away, catapults do strange things, look at that siege tower in the picture it didn't even spawn proper.. didn't have ladders up, a ramp, a roof a lot of sides were gone. Also it was extremely chaotic with little to no communication on defenders side. Just random spawn and stream skirmish tactics. To quote the words of a wise man, quit being bitches.

read the entire thread again... No one anywhere says that the construction site was not on the flags. The only mention of it is in Kesh's post saying that it was on the flags and people were spawning on top of it.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Relit on March 23, 2013, 07:11:08 pm
I was on the winning team. I want the rules enforced. Will either the admin or dev present comment as to why this was not fixed the moment it was noticed? (immediately, unless your blind. Hell I noticed it and I was on the other team mostly guarding against cav in the back).
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Pappy on March 23, 2013, 07:36:10 pm
Honestly, I don't see why you guys are being so antagonistic in this thread. "quit being bitches" no one was being a bitch. There aren't any tears here, we were all quite stoked after the victory. Murder explained the point of this thread very accurately with his comparison to drunk driving; the rules in strat/crpg shouldn't be "it is only against the rules if someone gets hurt".

Honestly, I just like to feed the trolls.  I started out reading this thread offended by your skewed reality of events, and really had no idea what your point, or desired outcome was.. so felt compelled to offer the other sides viewpoint from teamspeak communications that occurred at the time to better educate you on the reality of the situation.. but then I just gave up when I realized this was less of a call for justice and more of a crusade against admins you harbor a grudge for. So now I just post for the comedic value, like telling the retarded kid to go kick the mean sleeping dog down the street. Knowing the outcome will provide me amusement, because if I really wanted your opinion I'd shove my hand up your ass and work your mouth like a hand puppet.  :wink:
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Matey on March 23, 2013, 08:10:11 pm
Honestly, I just like to feed the trolls.  I started out reading this thread offended by your skewed reality of events, and really had no idea what your point, or desired outcome was.. so felt compelled to offer the other sides viewpoint from teamspeak communications that occurred at the time to better educate you on the reality of the situation.. but then I just gave up when I realized this was less of a call for justice and more of a crusade against admins you harbor a grudge for. So now I just post for the comedic value, like telling the retarded kid to go kick the mean sleeping dog down the street. Knowing the outcome will provide me amusement, because if I really wanted your opinion I'd shove my hand up your ass and work your mouth like a hand puppet.  :wink:

You really have no idea and should stop commenting. I like Shik and Tydeus; not to mention I just posted pictures and said "this happened". Troll elsewhere.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Pappy on March 23, 2013, 08:58:23 pm
You really have no idea and should stop commenting. I like Shik and Tydeus; not to mention I just posted pictures and said "this happened". Troll elsewhere.

I had no idea you like them, singling them out in bold underlined italics in your picture, and others feeding off it with cries of badmin abuse, and ban thread, and banable. But I was on defense so I did have an idea of what occured, just it was from an opposite perspective and disagreed with your paranoia therefore inherently wrong from your sides perceived world view. Also not particularly yourself per se but others posting and singling out the entire defensive team saying we had to know, and it was planned, and a conspiracy to deprive you flag access.. etc.. but I don't dislike you, or anyone in particular just this topic. So while I'm not singling out any one entity with my remarks, but your arguments as a whole, please start troll threads elsewhere or I will feed you.  I have a big heart and hate to see anyone go hungry. :cry:
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Espwn on March 23, 2013, 09:41:14 pm
I had no idea you like them, singling them out in bold underlined italics in your picture, and others feeding off it with cries of badmin abuse, and ban thread, and banable. But I was on defense so I did have an idea of what occured, just it was from an opposite perspective and disagreed with your paranoia therefore inherently wrong from your sides perceived world view. Also not particularly yourself per se but others posting and singling out the entire defensive team saying we had to know, and it was planned, and a conspiracy to deprive you flag access.. etc.. but I don't dislike you, or anyone in particular just this topic. So while I'm not singling out any one entity with my remarks, but your arguments as a whole, please start troll threads elsewhere or I will feed you.  I have a big heart and hate to see anyone go hungry. :cry:

He's not singling out the entire defensive team, he is just saying that this could have been avoidable if the admins had enforced the rules. Maybe some nice pink text saying "that's against the rules" would have been nice.


Now shoo

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Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Hobb on March 23, 2013, 09:45:36 pm
So you are writing giant walls of text in a strat issues thread as a troll eh? It sure looks like your trolling yourself to me.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: kinngrimm on March 23, 2013, 10:21:21 pm
...since the latest patch the towers no longer have wheels....
really? is that a bug or a feature? well it would make them if build in the right spot more reliable i guess.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Pappy on March 23, 2013, 10:59:57 pm
So you are writing giant walls of text in a strat issues thread as a troll eh? It sure looks like your trolling yourself to me.

No, I never said Im doing it as a troll, I said I'm feeding trolls. Thats like equating the zookeeper to a monkey because he feeds monkeys. Also I have no life, I am over 400 lbs, bald, middle aged, unemployed, and full of pretentious nerd rage which I express from my bedroom in my mothers basement where I play in my whitey tighties and belittle her if my cookies are burnt or my kool-aid is not delivered promptly so jokes on you.
Title: Re: Covered Flags
Post by: Mongolista on March 23, 2013, 11:37:32 pm
No, I never said Im doing it as a troll, I said I'm feeding trolls. Thats like equating the zookeeper to a monkey because he feeds monkeys. Also I have no life, I am over 400 lbs, bald, middle aged, unemployed, and full of pretentious nerd rage which I express from my bedroom in my mothers basement where I play in my whitey tighties and belittle her if my cookies are burnt or my kool-aid is not delivered promptly so jokes on you.
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