Covered Flags

[Matey]

 4) Covering flags
                    4.1) covering flags with any equipment is not allowed. This includes ladders, siege shields, construction sites and anything you can produce with a construction site.

Enemy roster (Bold/italic/underlined the dev/admin on their side)

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fraichedan    54    34
Occitan_Piou_LeCarcajou    39    38
Wolves_Zak4o    39    36
Chevalier_Voren_Le_Drunk    37    35
Xol_of_Chaos    37    24
JABONRA_Damatacus    36    33
Bayushi_Shoju    35    39
Tydeus    35    21
Druzhina_mAxewell    34    31
Sipahi_o_glan_Mehmet    34    34
FFC_Aldogalus_MB    33    30
Chevalier_sdfjkln    32    32
Occitan_eZink    32    38
BANDITOSIR_the_Grey_rus    31    41
JABONRA_Rubes    26    34
Druzhina_Fess_Rus    22    28
Brudna_Ryba_the_Grey    21    30
Kapikulu_Ottomans_Guard    21    26
Kapikulu_Sultan_Ozan    21    34
Druzhina_PykaXaoca    20    27
Papasmurf_FIDLGB    20    33
vitaliy_mikh    20    32
Canuck    18    37
Druzhina_Koctyz    18    26
Mahir_The_Kusucurtmaz    18    19
STFU_Donny    18    35
Huscarl_Ragnar    17    32
Nord_Arry    17    9
Kapikulu_Guray    16    20
Syikjae    16    26
Chevalier_Martin_le_Durable    15    33
Kapikulu_BurakBey    14    30
WodzuUK_Joannits    12    36
Huscarl_hmmkim    11    15
Malgalad    11    16
Ecorcheur_RuSheur    10    35
Jony_HRE    10    38
Plazma_the_Grey    10    34
Wolves_QuisUtDeus    10    19
Ecorcheur_Dupond_et_IDManje    4    33

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The other team had a c-site up at their spawn for awhile, they finished the construction when we started capping their flags; we managed to get the flags down anyways so I guess it isn't a huge deal I guess...

[Kaelaen]

C:/Users/Matey/Documents/Mount&Blade Warband/cRPG/Screenshots

I don't know why, but that part blew my mind for some reason.

-idlewind

[Syls]

C:/Users/Matey/Documents/Mount&Blade Warband/cRPG/Screenshots

I don't know why, but that part blew my mind for some reason.

-idlewind

Don't you know? That's his real name 

[Duster]

This happens all the time, on both sides of the war, and is fairly hard to be proven intentional. Sucks, but it sounds like it wasn't an issue?

[Matey]

This happens all the time, on both sides of the war, and is fairly hard to be proven intentional. Sucks, but it sounds like it wasn't an issue?

I haven't seen it quite like this before during the war, though I've missed plenty of fights. I have seen large siege towers cover flags but then get moved off them as they were constructed when no enemies were really pushing at flags. This one was built just as we made our big push at the end and since the latest patch the towers no longer have wheels. It didn't save them this time as I guess there is a mechanic where flags will go down if enough people are killed on top of them? so it wasn't really a big deal I guess, but it was disappointing to see it occur when the enemy team had two people who should have prevented it from occurring as it is stated to be against the rules in strat.

[Mongolista]

This is clearly a bannable offence on EU, both blocks are actually paying huge attention to it as they know it is bannable and in case any person is stupid enough to do it, they get shouted at on TS and the item is immediately destroyed by his own team. I can't possibly understand a situation with two GMs/devs in the team and this shit still happening, I would seriously reconsider their privileges.

[Penguin]

This should be under ban requests, though the admins bolded will likely feign ignorance, I'm not surprised to see one name in particular once again up to misdeeds.

[Tydeus]

Enemy roster (Bold/italic/underlined the dev/admin on their side)

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fraichedan    54    34
Occitan_Piou_LeCarcajou    39    38
Wolves_Zak4o    39    36
Chevalier_Voren_Le_Drunk    37    35
Xol_of_Chaos    37    24
JABONRA_Damatacus    36    33
Bayushi_Shoju    35    39
Tydeus    35    21
Druzhina_mAxewell    34    31
Sipahi_o_glan_Mehmet    34    34
FFC_Aldogalus_MB    33    30
Chevalier_sdfjkln    32    32
Occitan_eZink    32    38
BANDITOSIR_the_Grey_rus    31    41
JABONRA_Rubes    26    34
Druzhina_Fess_Rus    22    28
Brudna_Ryba_the_Grey    21    30
Kapikulu_Ottomans_Guard    21    26
Kapikulu_Sultan_Ozan    21    34
Druzhina_PykaXaoca    20    27
Papasmurf_FIDLGB    20    33
vitaliy_mikh    20    32
Canuck    18    37
Druzhina_Koctyz    18    26
Mahir_The_Kusucurtmaz    18    19
STFU_Donny    18    35
Huscarl_Ragnar    17    32
Nord_Arry    17    9
Kapikulu_Guray    16    20
Syikjae    16    26
Chevalier_Martin_le_Durable    15    33
Kapikulu_BurakBey    14    30
WodzuUK_Joannits    12    36
Huscarl_hmmkim    11    15
Malgalad    11    16
Ecorcheur_RuSheur    10    35
Jony_HRE    10    38
Plazma_the_Grey    10    34
Wolves_QuisUtDeus    10    19
Ecorcheur_Dupond_et_IDManje    4    33

Wow, all things considered, I had a pretty good K:D.

[Bronto]

Everything is a conspiracy and they're out to get you!

Paranoia aside, this was not intentional. I has friends on both sides and they were trying to build a tower for their archers, the wheels were bugged. it's pretty simple stuff and actually worked to our advantage by forcing them to spawn inside the tower for free kills and get pummeled by arrow volleys.

[Mongolista]

I dont know dude, Im pretty sure archers would have used the "half" sky ladders (that are allowed) for their advantage as they do in all the battles, they wouldnt build the whole tower coz of it...paranoia is one thing, obvious exploit another, I mean how can anybody really try to question this?? Not to mention this "funny" little note by Tydeus not trying to explain anything, just laughing in Matey's face:)

[Pappy]

This was a chinese faction with like 10 languages spoken in teamspeak, the left hand had no idea what the right was doing. There was no tactics, no organization. This battle was fought like a na-1 random battle with disorganization  and random respawns just streaming into you. The seige tower was started at the very beginning of the battle, and by sheer luck was even finished at all. It was supposed to go up next to the flags, not over them. it was supposed to be used to protect archers from your troops. All it did is serve as a tomb, and didnt slow you down any in finishing the match. The admins and everyone else didnt know it was even being built, other then being discussed that we SHOULD build one near the flags.. since our whole tactic was fight close to flags to hold them. Someone mentioned they were building one at the beginning of the match, and 95% of our team was just as surprised at the end to see it actually go up 60 seconds before our death. You were down to shit for troops before it went up so it didnt cost you 100s of deaths or anything, you were still able to spawn camp us, and you still won.. and yes seige equipment is bugged as fuck with wierd random shit happening with it.. so.. whats the point of this thread? XP was made, sand got in vaginas, and people cried. Isn't that what Strat is all about? 

[Smoothrich]

Do you want people mass banned?  Its just a videogame with some buggy elements and no one can be held responsible ultimately.  Why go through the effort.  Do you feel the need for cRPG justice because a tower got pushed by a flag maybe in some battle that ultimately No One Gives A Shit About?

[MURDERTRON]

How bout just a pink text that says "Defending side, stop what you're doing now, and destroy the siege tower" then do further warnings for those who continue to fight and kicks or bans for those who don't listen to the admins.  We could not get so much as a pink text message about this, despite me being very polite in admin messages.

There were also multiple siege ladders over flags that I admin messaged about and there were no admin messages.  Eventually it got taken care of, about 5 minutes later.  These admins were really dropping the ball compared to Canary, who either destroys the offending equipment himself or pink texts until its taken care of.

[Matey]

Do you want people mass banned?  Its just a videogame with some buggy elements and no one can be held responsible ultimately.  Why go through the effort.  Do you feel the need for cRPG justice because a tower got pushed by a flag maybe in some battle that ultimately No One Gives A Shit About?

It turned out pretty minor but it could have really messed with things; since there were multiple admins on their side it simply should not have happened. If admins aren't even following the rules then how can we expect anyone else to?

p.s. as for what to do about it... It would be nice if the admins who allowed it would at least give their side of the story and admit their mistake, maybe assure us that rules are actually there for a reason (though considering some past events I am beginning to wonder...) other than to handicap those who follow them while rewarding those who do not.

[Pappy]

So.. it would be better for the entire battle to PAUSE, and destroy siege tower?! Giving the defenders a chance to fully re spawn and regroup SINCE they did OUTNUMBER you with tickets... and possibly cost you the battle when you were winning at that point and the battle was lost on our side for sure... Wouldnt you be on here crying about how the admins stopped the battle, gave the defenders a chance to regroup, and then they kicked your ass costing you the battle? They dont go to your job, slap the dick out of your mouth, and tell you how to suck it. So why not just be happy you won, instead of crying for justice where no injustice exists. Also ONE ladder was placed over flags, dont know who did it but the admin on our Teamspeak did break it.. and tell them not to do it.. and it wasnt done again.. and 5 minutes is a massive exageration but its your story, tell it how you want.