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Title: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Leshma on February 06, 2013, 08:33:00 pm
I would like to hear overlords opinion on dueling on battle servers? I was banned for interrupting a duel by QMLing player who was standing still watching duel.

Admin BlueberryMuffin told me that dueling on battle server is okay and that if everyone agrees but not one player, whole bunch have the right to gank him (teamkill him) so that they can continue with dueling.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Rhekimos on February 06, 2013, 08:40:15 pm
... dueling on battle server is okay and that if everyone agrees but not one player, whole bunch have the right to gank him (teamkill him) so that they can continue with dueling.

Hahahahaha, what.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Leshma on February 06, 2013, 08:42:24 pm
Well ganking means that if he doesn't get the message, teamkill is neccessary, isn't it?

I just want rules to be clear, don't want admins bending the official rules the way they see fitting.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Rhekimos on February 06, 2013, 08:47:56 pm
A quick glance at the rules banning intentional teamkilling should tell that it's not.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Radament on February 06, 2013, 08:52:45 pm

Admin BlueberryMuffin told me that dueling on battle server is okay and that if everyone agrees but not one player, whole bunch have the right to gank him (teamkill him) so that they can continue with dueling.

you sure he wasn't joking? or you trolling? that's a stupid rule lol even if i find it funny :)
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Leshma on February 06, 2013, 08:53:27 pm
That is what he told me. He was probably joking, but you never know.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: BlueKnight on February 06, 2013, 08:54:18 pm
If the last guy was givena chance and a right to duel by his enemies, after he kills all except one, duelist should allow last guy to execute him. Duelist had his duels and good manners demand from him to die. He could have been ganged but was allowed to duel and winning a round due to killing in duel the rest of the enemy team would be abuse. It's always a loss of sure-multi for people who have been ganging and dying in gang during whole round. I don't see why duelist should be so ungrateful to people that didn't gang him.

Obviously I'm talking about 6vs1, not 2vs1 when 1 of the teammates is dumb and not helping the other one. Also it's really hard to say when duelist should be grateful and when not. It's all based on common sense I guess, just like other important rules.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Radament on February 06, 2013, 08:56:12 pm
If the last guy was givena chance and a right to duel by his enemies, after he kills all except one, duelist should allow last guy to execute him. Duelist had his duels and good manners demand from him to die. He could have been ganged but was allowed to duel and winning a round due to killing in duel the rest of the enemy team would be abuse. It's always a loss of sure-multi for people who have been ganging and dying in gang during whole round. I don't see why duelist should be so ungrateful to people that didn't gang him.

Obviously I'm talking about 6vs1, not 2vs1 when 1 of the teammates is dumb and not helping the other one. Also it's really hard to say when duelist should be grateful and when not. It's all based on common sense I guess, just like other important rules.

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Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Leshma on February 06, 2013, 08:58:00 pm
Well, one of the reasons why I play battle is because game mode rules which are team vs team. If I wanted to duel, I would be on duel server. I really want to hear official opinion on duels, because I don't thrust common sense of some admins we have.

Edit: For example, Idzo has Strat battle in 5 minutes. So he decides to teamkill half of his team. Fips make a ban thread which is ignored thanks to Tennenoth being Idzo's TS buddy. That is disgusting.

I want to play a game with neutral admins, I'm sick of that bullshit.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Rumblood on February 06, 2013, 09:57:22 pm
I would like to hear overlords opinion on dueling on battle servers? I was banned for interrupting a duel by QMLing player who was standing still watching duel.

Admin BlueberryMuffin told me that dueling on battle server is okay and that if everyone agrees but not one player, whole bunch have the right to gank him (teamkill him) so that they can continue with dueling.

Well you are gone anyhow, but no. If one guy doesn't agree to duel and wants to kill the last enemy, he can kill the last enemy. If he gets team killed so duels can go on, those who team kill will receive punishment for breaking the rules.

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No intentional teamwounding/teamkilling during a round

The QML'ing of an active player is a separate issue.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: IG_Saint on February 06, 2013, 11:01:46 pm
I would like to hear overlords opinion on dueling on battle servers? I was banned for interrupting a duel by QMLing player who was standing still watching duel.

Admin BlueberryMuffin told me that dueling on battle server is okay and that if everyone agrees but not one player, whole bunch have the right to gank him (teamkill him) so that they can continue with dueling.

Dueling is allowed, it's always been allowed and lot's of people like it and do it. I doubt that will ever change. However the second part is just bullshit, if one player doesn't want to duel, that player has every right to shoot, backstab or gank the lone survivor. Teamkilling that one player is very much against the rules and will get you insta banned if I'm on the server.

The above is my opinion and interpretation of the rules, however in this case I feel rather confident in saying the overlords will agree with me.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on February 07, 2013, 12:00:20 am
I said that duels are perfectly acceptable, so long as everyone agrees. If one person doesnt want the duel to happen, they have every right to gank the dueling enemy.

Dont know where you got that last bit from, I wasnt even drunk and I remember it clearly. Ill check the logs tomorow sometime, prolly a miscommunication.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: oohillac on February 07, 2013, 12:06:32 am
There's a specific server for duelling.  Admins who allow players to clearly avoid combat for the sake of giving "duels" at the end of the rounds should have their powers revoked.

On Battle mode, I've seen far too many multipliers lost to players with a "sense of honour" (read: desire for epeen), with the NA badmins standing by, letting people fight one at a time.

Go to NA_3, where there are no multipliers at stake.
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Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Panos on February 07, 2013, 12:07:47 am
Edit: For example, Idzo has Strat battle in 5 minutes. So he decides to teamkill half of his team. Fips make a ban thread which is ignored thanks to Tennenoth being Idzo's TS buddy. That is disgusting.

Bullshit, I was there when that happened, Idzo tked Vincent and another templar a couple seconds before the round ends, I don`t know why fips was so butthurt about it though.

And Tenne is one of the fairest admins, and pretty strict to be honest.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Tom Cruise on February 07, 2013, 12:10:27 am
Who gives a shit if someone asks for a duel. People moan and whine when you gank someone instead of letting him duel. If you want a duel, head to the duel server.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Panos on February 07, 2013, 12:13:37 am
Who gives a shit if someone asks for a duel. People moan and whine when you gank someone instead of letting him duel. If you want a duel, head to the duel server.

Normally the last people alive are good players and thats why they agree to duel, it`s like an unwritten law.

I always enjoy a duel with a good/better dueler than me that will judge which team will win the round, everyone wants his 2 minutes of fame  :wink:
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Tom Cruise on February 07, 2013, 12:15:21 am
Normally the last people alive are good players and thats why they agree to duel, it`s like an unwritten law.

I always enjoy a duel with a good/better dueler than me that will judge which team will win the round, everyone wants his 2 minutes of fame  :wink:

I love being a rambo too, and I'm not saying you can't duel, but people bitch to much when you don't let them happen. And who the hell would decide the duel? 1vs 5-10 or however many people are on the other team, and you think everyone is going to agree to duel?
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Paul on February 07, 2013, 12:18:55 am
I'll ban duelers on sight (or maybe on a good day warn them before that). They are shitting on their own team and their fallen teammates who died to give them the number advantage. Throwing that away for crap duels is not acceptable to me.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Teeth on February 07, 2013, 12:20:04 am
Duelling is dead, fuck duelling.

This type of stroking of twohanders ego's will encourage them to be useless fucks the entire round so everybody can watch how awesome they are at the end.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Umbra on February 07, 2013, 12:21:55 am
I spit on your e-honor duelers. Backstabing wins rounds gtfo with your duels
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Casimir on February 07, 2013, 12:22:14 am
Hence why there needs an official ruling on this.  Admins should be enforcing standardized rules, not dealing out judgement on a sliding scale from practically encouraged to immediately banned.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 07, 2013, 12:25:46 am
Admin BlueberryMuffin told me that dueling on battle server is okay and that if everyone agrees but not one player, whole bunch have the right to gank him (teamkill him) so that they can continue with dueling.
We both know he never said that, I've seen a post which I believe was from CMP ages ago in a thread that eventually ended up in the spam section stating that the official opinion on dueling was something along the lines of:
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Ironlake himself has stated that granting duels is fine but that you're not allowed to force your teammates into accepting it (jumping into/kicking ranged or just teamkilling them) and that it is no reason to poll/teamhit/rageqml/open a forum thread about leaving duels alone and then open a thread right afterwards about how you want to harras duels, and it has clearly been stated that not granting duels is no reason to qml someone and that telling you he's going to banthread is no reason to teamattack him.
(which is also ironlakes personal opinion).

Also:
Also, you're a known fucked in the head person, no one will take your opinion seriously (not claiming anyone will mine), you're one of the biggest hypocrites I've seen around here ever, but all in all, you're really just some odd prostitute with a dick instead of a pussy.
Bitch.

All you bitches crying about losing your multis 'cause you sucked hard and died and your teammates had the common decency to grant duels are pathetic, show some slight ingame respect for your opponents, there are a few horseranged who get off their horse as the last guy and then get ganked, next round they fairly enough (is still dickish behavior) kite until MotF gets pulled up.

To all the guys saying "if you want duels go EU_3" I fully agree, if I want to duel every player I go EU_3, however "If you want to gank the last guy because you hunger for epeen and a slight advantage in grinding an endless useless amount of exp then go EU_1 were everyone are like that anyway.". Leshma, you also damn well fucking know that a large amount of EU_4 players who also tend to stay alive 'till the end want duels, yet you come over here and bitch about our behavior while grieifing poor XyNox and making constant threads about how our server needs to be shut down.

This type of stroking of twohanders ego's will encourage them to be useless fucks the entire round so everybody can watch how awesome they are at the end.
No one who does that gets granted duels ever, mostly among decent crowds they'll duel the second last guy and gank the regular last one.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Vodner on February 07, 2013, 12:27:30 am
If all living players want it, then I don't see a problem. I don't like getting end-rounds duels, though.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Carthan on February 07, 2013, 12:31:52 am
I was banned for interrupting a duel by QMLing player who was standing still watching duel.

I sense QQing
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 07, 2013, 12:34:22 am
I sense QQing
What's funny is that he conveniently leaves out teamhitting him three times intentionall during the course of two rounds and acts like he was banned just for the qml.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Kafein on February 07, 2013, 12:36:55 am
I'll ban duelers on sight (or maybe on a good day warn them before that). They are shitting on their own team and their fallen teammates who died to give them the number advantage. Throwing that away for crap duels is not acceptable to me.

Duelling is dead, fuck duelling.

This type of stroking of twohanders ego's will encourage them to be useless fucks the entire round so everybody can watch how awesome they are at the end.

I spit on your e-honor duelers. Backstabing wins rounds gtfo with your duels

I don't mean to be offensive, but you are sad.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Taser on February 07, 2013, 12:41:33 am
This is why I miss OOtL's server where if a person was the last alive and asked for duels, the request had to be honored. If you didn't like it, you didn't have to go to the server. I loved it especially since I had recently gone to crpg from native and was used to duels at the end of rounds.

That being said though, I have no problems with duels in regular battle servers and I like to see them happen. However it doesn't mean that the duel will happen since it cannot be enforced.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Umbra on February 07, 2013, 12:46:08 am
I don't mean to be offensive, but you are sad.

Right, they really need to invent the sarcasm symbol. This is getting silly
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: XyNox on February 07, 2013, 01:32:41 am
Leshma stop making up excuses. You misbehaved and then lied when being accused of it. Just be glad it was just 12 hours.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Digglez on February 07, 2013, 01:34:36 am
not fighting enemies on a battle server should be grounds for bans
Get rid of these 'honor' duels and bro love
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Grumbs on February 07, 2013, 02:48:52 am
I'll ban duelers on sight (or maybe on a good day warn them before that). They are shitting on their own team and their fallen teammates who died to give them the number advantage. Throwing that away for crap duels is not acceptable to me.

It depends a bit on the context, but generally its pretty disrespectful to the dead guys who already seemingly ensured the win for their team. If someone is outnumbered at the end then its because his team failed, and dead guys on the winning team played better. He should try to win against the odds or lose, for the sake of fairness for the dead guys

If the guy clearly has no chance to win some 1v1's at the end are fine. If its like 4v1 then I would not like to see dueling as its very possible to gift the enemy the win. If a teammate refuses to help and you don't really want to duel that should be against the rules, similarly to aiding the enemy team.

Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Digglez on February 07, 2013, 03:01:42 am
I'll ban duelers on sight (or maybe on a good day warn them before that). They are shitting on their own team and their fallen teammates who died to give them the number advantage. Throwing that away for crap duels is not acceptable to me.

instead of talking all big here, maybe you could actually update the posted server rules so this shit stop happening on a daily basis please?
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: XyNox on February 07, 2013, 03:03:18 am
instead of talking all big here, maybe you could actually update the posted server rules so this shit stop happening on a daily basis please?

Or the time could be used to fix ghostarrows  :lol:
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Panos on February 07, 2013, 03:37:37 am
I'll ban duelers on sight (or maybe on a good day warn them before that). They are shitting on their own team and their fallen teammates who died to give them the number advantage. Throwing that away for crap duels is not acceptable to me.


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Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Legs on February 07, 2013, 03:49:33 am
'Enforcing duels,' as in teamkilling players who refuse to duel, is against the rules. That's fine. If someone wants to mob the last enemy that's their decision. You're not entitled to a fair fight.

At the same time, if someone decides that they want to hang back and give the last enemy a fair(er) fight they should be able to. Again, it's the player's choice.

Not everyone enjoys mindlessly rushing forward like a bloodthirsty barbarian. Let people have fun however they want, whether that means mobbing some poor lonely guy or giving him fair-chance honor duels.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Equal on February 07, 2013, 04:22:01 am
So what I'm getting from this thread is that whenever I ask in chat for duels I am potentially putting myself and others at risk for being kicked/banned from the server? That's bullshit lol.

First off, just because you ask for duels doesn't mean it must be enforced. If the enemy doesn't want to duel then it doesn't happen anyways. Shouldn't be bannable.

Secondly, if the dueler gets their request, other players shouldn't get banned for it. It would be like if someone told everyone on their team to go camp some area.. It's just verbal strategy, strategy for the dueler being 1v1s can win the match easier. Shouldn't be bannable.

Might as well make the last person on a team drop their weapons and charge in - oh wait that's against the rules too. Also Horse Archery..nuff said.


Seriously, lean back and relax and watch the cool duels, usually when I'm last alive I try to stay alive until the next tick, or make my teammates wait until the tick. If you hate waiting for a maximum of 6 minutes then why don't you try not dying  :wink: try enjoying the game for once.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Pentecost on February 07, 2013, 04:38:20 am
I don't mind if people ask for duels, but I'd like it if there was a definitive ruling against people essentially forcing duels by electing to stand back and not help their teammates at the end of a round. Nothing is dumber when Miley, Rhaelys, Cyranule or some other stupidly dangerous player is the last person alive on the other side and all of the remaining members of your team, who either take their internet honor too seriously or have no self-awareness when it comes to their own ability at Warband, actually decide to fight him/her one at a time.

It's like they don't understand that the only reason why those players would ask for duels in the first place is because they know their chance of losing in a duel to anyone that isn't on their level is infinitely close to zero.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: no_rules_just_play on February 07, 2013, 11:23:17 am
Real men end the round with a knife.

Real men take 3 knifes to give a knife to their enemies.

Real men dont backstab duelers (unless when you use a knife, than its allowed)

Real men drop their weapon at the end of the round and charge in with their knife
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Miwiw on February 07, 2013, 12:56:17 pm
Stop talking about "real men", "honour" and such a shit. This is a goddamn game. People play battle because they want to play in a team, get multi and lots of xp/gold. And then some idiots decide to duel in the end and throw away their team's win?
Even if all people alive agree, it's not nice to the ones being dead as they probably do not agree.

Duels have no place on a battle server (except if its 1vs1 in the end of the round).
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: no_rules_just_play on February 07, 2013, 01:00:38 pm
its not because you duel that it changes something about winning or losing. ofcourse nobody will duel when its 2 vs 1 in the end, but a duel when its 30 vs 1 isnt that bad i guess :)
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on February 07, 2013, 01:23:08 pm
peeps randomly engaging in duels and getting pissed when you step in during siege, dm or tdm... pretty much the reason why I eventually left native multiplayer.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on February 07, 2013, 04:09:09 pm
I shoot into duels. I would also shoot at an enemy surrounded by 5 teammates. Dont care.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: no_rules_just_play on February 07, 2013, 04:53:23 pm
i think its really annoying if someone *ahem* leshma *ahem* interferes in a duel with his 2hander, but using a dagger/knife or getting behind someone with your xbow and shooting him in the back of  his head from 0.5 m distance is always fun. its not easy, but its funny.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: MrShine on February 07, 2013, 05:01:31 pm
Here are my thoughts:

-Duels should never be enforced, it's always "ok" to gank the last enemy.
-If I'm the last one alive on my team, and the other team decides that they are going to duel me, I'm not going to complain.
-Sometimes duels can be a really cool way to end a round.
-Sometimes duels can be a really lame way to end a round.
-There are a lot of ways people can "force duels" through actions that are technically within the rules of the game.
-There are a lot of ways people can "force duels" during the middle of the round, which has the same ramifications but is much less obvious to spot/complain about.
-The above two thoughts make this a very hard thing to consistently moderate.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Kafein on February 07, 2013, 05:06:03 pm
If I am myself part of the dominating team, I think it is my right not to fight the last enemy if somebody else is already doing that. You know, manners, fun, enjoying the game...

Also not being mad at that particular moment or time of the month.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: oprah_winfrey on February 07, 2013, 05:07:45 pm
Stop talking about "real men", "honour" and such a shit. This is a goddamn game. People play battle because they want to play in a team, get multi and lots of xp/gold. And then some idiots decide to duel in the end and throw away their team's win?
Even if all people alive agree, it's not nice to the ones being dead as they probably do not agree.

Duels have no place on a battle server (except if its 1vs1 in the end of the round).

Yeah, it is just a game, so you are looking to have fun not grind out a multi/xp. If everyone wants to duel at the end of the round, I see no reason for them not to.

In my experience, it only happens in low pop servers anyway, or when most of the remaining players are friends/in the same ts/vent,  otherwise the last guy alive gets shot/ganked.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Bill Crispy on February 07, 2013, 05:57:12 pm
i wanna say something to duels on battle servers:

short:
1. i am pro duels for last enemy on small servers
2. i don´t care much about multi
3. i can only talk for playin on EU_4

detailed:
For me, i can only talk about EU_4 in this case.

I personally really enjoy giving/ receiving duels to/ as the last enemy standing!!
I always try to give duels for the last enemy and when i get ganked by 7 enemys i abuse them!
As it is much more important to me to have fun and a nice playtime than always have x5 i really am cheesed off of gankin 6vs1 at ends of rounds...
There is no skill needed in that.

As this is a roleplay game, why u should not play the role of a honourable fighter on the field of battle??!?
With givin duels for the last enemy standing, u show respect to the guy who managed to stay alive! (and for earlier comments: on EU_4 i didn´t really notice anyone who has hidden himself the hole round just to ask for duels at the end...just seen my old friendchers hiding and shooting or HA,HX delaying every round and piss others off...)
On the other hand, if u receive duels, the others show respect to u and it just feels nice.
No idea how it is on EU_1 but i can´t imagine any honourable behaviour is possible there...

I like to play on small Servers (EU_4 smallest left, since melee-server´s down...) because there are mostly the same guys around. When u get to know them a bit the most are very friendly and it´s nice to play with them. I think most guys who play there feel the same way. So if u see a "friend" out there, u don´t wanna gank him together with 5 others if u see he´s the only one left and can´t get any help.
The ones who do that and like that....well...it´s a matter of character....

So in my opinion, givin/receivin duels is no kind of e-peen thing. It´s just a part of good behaviour in a melee-roleplay-game.

Because others care a lot about their multi i have to AGREE that it should also be a part of good behaviour for the guy who receives duels, to throw his weapon away and let himself get killed from the last enemy of the group who granted the duels.
In that way the team who supposed to win doesnt loose their multi. From now on i will do it that way!

To make a rule that forbids the option of giving duels will piss off playes like me, and i guess i´m not the only one who thinks that way.

As the contra-duel-fraction guys say "go to EU_3" if u wanna duel, i can say don´t go to small servers if u just like to gank?!
For those who say "if i am dead, i don´t wanna wait the time the duels take" i could say there are so many HA, HX, my old friendchers who just come to small servers to piss people off [the words some HA-player from Bloody-clan said to me :( ] that delay every round what takes a hundred times longer then some nice duels (which are great fun to watch)!!

resumee:
Let duels take place if people want to duel!
Gank if u can´t leave it be (what makes all cute puppy´s and baby Kittens in the world cry) but don´t complain if people hate u and abuse u for that!
BUT IN GOATS NAME, DO NOT FORBID IT!







Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on February 08, 2013, 12:02:38 am
I am totally ok with not ganking the last enemy standing and giving him a fair chance to duel his way out. It is quite a nice way of playing the game.

But sometimes people will do it in the middle of the game and it becomes really annoying when they get mad at you if you enter the fight. And imo, it's not really cool to ban someone for stepping in. A kick would be ok only if the above is applicable and the involvement is plain blatant.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Templar_Ratigan on February 08, 2013, 10:25:44 am
Admin BlueberryMuffin told me that dueling on battle server is okay and that if everyone agrees but not one player, whole bunch have the right to gank him (teamkill him) so that they can continue with dueling.

Even though that sounds like a joke, it also sounds pretty much like the mob mentality of CRPG. If it doesn't fit in with our builds, methods and tastes..... KILL IT!!
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on February 08, 2013, 10:39:15 am
Dueling is so... "I would like to be a hero" bullshit
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Molly on February 08, 2013, 11:11:51 am
Even though that sounds like a joke, it also sounds pretty much like the mob mentality of CRPG. If it doesn't fit in with our builds, methods and tastes..... KILL IT!!
...cuz that's how we roll!  8-)
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: wayyyyyne on February 08, 2013, 05:11:26 pm
I always like to grant duels to the last one alive because it's a nice way of getting that one or two additional xp and gold tick.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Sebi_is_Hero on February 09, 2013, 03:25:18 pm
I had the same situation....
Ramsus wanted a "Duel" czs. he was last alive , I tried to shot him and Sivlan jumped into my shots and Ironlake kicked him and said that it isn't allowed :/
What is right  and what is wrong ?
Or is there a spezial rule ?
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Miwiw on February 09, 2013, 04:30:42 pm
You can shoot and attack anyone in any situation that is not your teammate, mion.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: oerput on February 09, 2013, 05:17:45 pm
seeing these anti-dueling posts in forum made me think about this community. why is such a big deal that allow a skilled player to lose in a fair fight ? after surviving the carnage on battlefield and noticing ur the last alive u just deserve something different than getting ganked by a bunch of nubs. anyway we are playing this game over and over with same maps and same ppl. letting something epic happen once in a while can bring some fun into the gameplay.
personally ı let duels even when it is 1 vs 2. not because ı wanted the glory of winning all by myself. ı let duels cause ı want that last guy to have a chance of winning and getting a great moment. after all thats why most players play this mod for a long time. for those little great moments of glory or whatever
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Rainbow on February 09, 2013, 06:13:52 pm
I'll ban duelers on sight (or maybe on a good day warn them before that). They are shitting on their own team and their fallen teammates who died to give them the number advantage. Throwing that away for crap duels is not acceptable to me.

That is against the rules.  Duels are allowed at the end.  Ganks are also allowed.  It is up to the individual player.  I would rather fight people in a 1v1 then with the horde.  I can fight without holding back and not worry about team wounds.  I have a way way way higher chance as a duelist myself finishing the last man standing very quickly and not taking damage then if my team helps me.  Even in team battles I try to avoid the cluster because my own team hits me non stop.  When we are down to our last 3 against 1 guy and I'm low n health you better believe I am standing way the fuck back because my own team makes me more nervous then the enemy. 
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Bonze on February 09, 2013, 09:31:12 pm
I'll ban duelers on sight (or maybe on a good day warn them before that). They are shitting on their own team and their fallen teammates who died to give them the number advantage. Throwing that away for crap duels is not acceptable to me.

Do it! Do it! ban ban ban ban

+1

Duelling in battle servers are for antisocial lowlifers with no job or small penis , over and out .
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Sebi_is_Hero on February 09, 2013, 09:44:13 pm
Yes Miwiw but if he jumps in my shot and report me than , am I allowed to starta a kick/ban poll then ?
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Miwiw on February 09, 2013, 10:12:57 pm
Yes Miwiw but if he jumps in my shot and report me than , am I allowed to starta a kick/ban poll then ?

That would be called griefing, so actually yes. However it's never worth to request a ban for a single situation like that. And it actually only rarely happens, so I wouldnt worry about that at all.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Sebi_is_Hero on February 09, 2013, 11:41:26 pm
Alright. Thank you!
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Blackbow on February 10, 2013, 02:36:08 am
I would like to hear overlords opinion on dueling on battle servers? I was banned for interrupting a duel by QMLing player who was standing still watching duel.

Admin BlueberryMuffin told me that dueling on battle server is okay and that if everyone agrees but not one player, whole bunch have the right to gank him (teamkill him) so that they can continue with dueling.

ask them also to stop forget to add poll ban / kick when an admin leave the server
coz the night when there is no more admin we have lot of stupid delayers (hx ) but impossibru to poll kick/ban !!
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Rumblood on February 10, 2013, 04:19:44 am
ask them also to stop forget to add poll ban / kick when an admin leave the server
coz the night when there is no more admin we have lot of stupid delayers (hx ) but impossibru to poll kick/ban !!

We find that we are just as likely, if not more likely, to ban someone for poll abuse when left on as have a ban post for true douchebaggery when left off.

Example: Rage polls/Clan buddies gang bang polling/poll banning a HX for playing their class  :idea:

When someone is truly being an asshat, they are usually dealt with via the ban forum.

Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Cyber on February 10, 2013, 06:30:24 pm
The way i see it is by allowing enemy to duel you are giving the enemy team a better chance to win and are not helping your team, same as being afk and leeching.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Tears of Destiny on February 10, 2013, 06:34:34 pm
The way i see it is by allowing enemy to duel you are giving the enemy team a better chance to win and are not helping your team, same as being afk and leeching.


This in my opinion, just like two "friends" TWing each other in Battle, it is just griefing your own team by lowering the chance of winning.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Kafein on February 10, 2013, 06:38:30 pm
Is it really a base for punishing ? I mean, I do stuff not actually contributing to the team all the time. Like running after that peasant in plate when the flag is getting capped or standing still on purpose after being hit by an arrow, just to annoy that my old friend enjoying his hunting simulator.
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 11, 2013, 07:02:46 pm
One of my biggest pet peeves is when two enemies are just standing around and not fighting each other.  Or even worse, when one of them actively blocks their teammates and gets in the way of them hitting the enemy.  Fuck those guys

Ask Ned Stark how far honor got him
Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: Jarlek on February 11, 2013, 09:43:47 pm
One of my biggest pet peeves is when two enemies are just standing around and not fighting each other.  Or even worse, when one of them actively blocks their teammates and gets in the way of them hitting the enemy.  Fuck those guys

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Title: Re: Dueling in battle servers
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 11, 2013, 10:37:47 pm
Hahahaha that's fucking awesome, since I can only give you one +1, I randomly selected another post of yours to +1