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Title: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 23, 2013, 04:31:40 am

Hey folks, it's been a damned interesting few days. I've been talking heavily to just about every faction on the strat map during these days; it's now wise for me to let everyone know exactly what's going on as I see it. I could be wrong on these, but I am not actively lying. There's no ARR PEE here, only what I know.


New Rindyar Castle was previously owned by JABONRA. The castle ran out of gold for upkeep, and starting draining troops in a hurry. Murdertron talked to When we got it, there were a total of about 1800 JABONRA troops on there split amongst their high-key members. Palatro, dan_cheats, couple others. I would name them all but I forget and I'm not exactly at Rindyar right now. Now, over the past few days those guys have been losing troops rapidly as the castle did; meaning they didn't have the gold for upkeep.

I attempted to contact Palatro about buying their strat stuff for cRPG gold and looms, but to no response. BADPLAYER was taken down rushing 100 unarmed troops at our castle. At the time, we really did think that he could lock down our transfers that way; the only person to contradict me on that point was Arowaine. Arowaine told me in TS that you need 1/3 of the troops of the castle to do that. I don't know if that is accurate at all; I don't mistrust or trust him on it. I simply have no other source of information on it.

What I think BADPLAYER was doing was trying to gain entry into the castle to get transfered a fuckshitstack of troops from the JABONRA guys. I mean, they're more of his friends than mine. Of course they wouldn't sell me shit and screw HP over, that's fine. In addition, BADPLAYER could have been doing ANYTHING with that unarmed army of his; I just find it likely he was up to no good, causing trouble in my neighborhood.

Fast forward a bit, and I'm in hosp TS, alone with arowaine. He called me in there via a PM, and I was sure that they were going to ask me to vacate my ass out of Rindyar. Now, this was just the case. Arowaine told me in teamspeak that Rindyar must be vacated. He told me that he would relocated me to somewhere with at least one castle. He also told me that we would need to merc for occitan and others to get this.

Now, to be, that sounded like "become an occitan vassal and you'll be spared" Arowaine was very kind and proper throughout the whole thing. I do like most occitan folks, truly. However, the problem was not with his presentation of the deal...the problem was with the deal.

I've repeatedly claimed that I'm not an FCC ally recently, and that was quite true. However, lets look at this situation:

Hero Party has 34 members and 9 fiefs.
Occitan has 56 and 8 fiefs.
The Frisian Freedom has 14 members and 2 fiefs.

If you think that I'm not going to accept ANY help from ANYONE that gives it to me in ANY capacity I can, you'd have to be fucking nuts.

I've got 90 people ready to eat our ass. I'm not complaining about it; I love a good fight and boy are we going to give it to you. As I've said before, my momma didn't raise no fucking coward. However, I truly, TRULY did NOT want to be an FCC ally. I really didn't. I wanted to go after equally-sized factions in a fair fight. However, I understand the strategic significance of New Rindyar for both sides. I'm not upset that you're coming after me because we're small. I'm not really even upset about it. I just really wish you could have let me watch you go by to go stick it to FCC while I take care of other strategus affairs.

However, you've given me no choice. You've chosen my allies for me. FCC didn't come to me when we're mercing for tkov, when if we were allies we'd need to merc for remnant. FCC hasn't given me any reason to dislike them. Kesh says some silly things, some rude things, and some damn near crazy things on the forums occasionally. Kesh hasn't given me an ultimatum. You know very well that FCC could do the same thing you're doing; Rindyar is important to them too. They haven't.

I DIDN'T WANT TO FIGHT OCCITAN AND I BARELY WANTED TO FIGHT HERO PARTY, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WANT TO FIGHT ME

I'll take whatever I can get from whereever I can get it, and as long as we've still got troops standing, you're going to have a very shitty time taking New Rindyar or anything else from us.

glhf

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Equal on January 23, 2013, 04:35:21 am

RA RA FIGHT DA POWAH.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Turboflex on January 23, 2013, 05:00:08 am

These swine from the south will regret their treacherous plottings.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Fringe on January 23, 2013, 05:33:13 am

Well I've got no business in this so I've got little to say, except what an unfortunate turn of events. Not much a little clan like mine can do except lend mercenary's, which you'll get the best of us.

Good luck on your endeavors and God bless. <--(idk, as a Christian lord that was expected.)

~Lord Fringe

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: SHinOCk on January 23, 2013, 05:54:10 am

From what i understand, even though the owner was afk, it was still a Jabonra castle so by extension, a hero party claim and because of that, an action had to be taken toward getting that castle back to its rightful owner. No hard feelings to Frisia, we Occitans have to support our allies if they feel they have been wronged.

If there is one thing i can tell you about us, it is that we are not interested in having vassals at all.. We like to work with certain people and as long as we have a common goal and good relations, everything works well. I think the point you misunderstood was that Arowaine probably asked for merc support for the time we would've been relocating you guys which i think was a risky(no risk no glory) but fair offer and also logical since we were gonna expand troops to eventually give you guys some of the land we could've got in our campaign. It was also a try at dealing with the whole issue with diplomacy instead of bloodshed which is something we prone when were in a situation with such a small clan that WE (Occitan) don't really have anything against.

At that point all i can say is lets have some good battles during prime time and if you have further question, add me on steam: SHinOCk

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Tanken on January 23, 2013, 05:56:38 am

Should have taken the Deal and made it clear that you were not going to treat yourselves as Vassals.


That said, make sure to shit on every drape and in every nook & cranny in the castle. That way, in months time when the castle reeks of shit, and people no longer want to visit it, the resell value will be low. Then, you can sweep in and offer 1/10th the requested price and swoop that baby back in your arms.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: MURDERTRON on January 23, 2013, 05:59:07 am

Since we are only discussing facts here, all you need to know is JABONRA_BobWeaver gave me the castle.  I later gave the castle to Sandersson.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: BADPLAYER_old2 on January 23, 2013, 06:07:02 am

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I DIDN'T WANT TO FIGHT OCCITAN AND I BARELY WANTED TO FIGHT HERO PARTY, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WANT TO FIGHT ME

Yeah, because you and Daruvian are awful people going by posts on the forums and you in game.

I mean really almost the entirety of the cRPG community is full of racists, homophobes and everything else. I don't want to be friends with these people just to win a game of internet horses, I would much rather be at war with them so as to negate all associations at all as would most people in hero_party.

Most clans seem to share your same awful viewpoints though, so we are the minority. You shouldn't have any trouble beating down a minority I imagine though considering what those viewpoints happen to be so keep at it! visitors can't see pics , please register or login

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Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: SHinOCk on January 23, 2013, 06:08:40 am

Quote from: MURDERTRON on January 23, 2013, 05:59:07 am

Since we are only discussing facts here, all you need to know is JABONRA_BobWeaver gave me the castle.  I later gave the castle to Sandersson.

Well if thats true.. gg i guess -_-

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Shik on January 23, 2013, 06:10:30 am

Quote from: MURDERTRON on January 23, 2013, 05:59:07 am

Since we are only discussing facts here, all you need to know is JABONRA_BobWeaver gave me the castle.  I later gave the castle to Sandersson.

Yeah after you raided it, lmao. Bobweaver doesn't care about strat at all but like hell we're gonna let anyone affiliated with FCC keep this castle.

also, at thread: if you didn't want to fight us then you shouldn't have taken handouts from FCC. Also nice job merging with Norse Horde, we're practically shaking in our boots~~

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: oprah_winfrey on January 23, 2013, 06:20:56 am

Yes, he gave you the castle after you raided it, and had no gear no money. To clear things up further, JABONRA_BobWeaver was away at training for work, he got internet a week or so before he got raided. As murdertron attacked him, I was going up there to give the castle more gold.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 23, 2013, 06:47:27 am

Quote from: Shik on January 23, 2013, 06:10:30 am

Yeah after you raided it, lmao. Bobweaver doesn't care about strat at all but like hell we're gonna let anyone affiliated with FCC keep this castle.

also, at thread: if you didn't want to fight us then you shouldn't have taken handouts from FCC. Also nice job merging with Norse Horde, we're practically shaking in our boots~~

Last post in the thread, really what's been said needs to be, now all that's left is to fight a war. Really a war I'm not too upset about, there will be damned good XP and I feel like Serbia before the first world war.

We wouldn't have been affiliated with FCC. I've made certain negotiations with Peppovitch over at Hospitaller, and would have been more than willing to refrain from future aggressive action against HP, and certainly against Occitan. I wouldn't have given Kesh info, wouldn't have played double agent, none of that.

I wanted to have some nice patch-work wars here. Nice 3-man factions fighting one another in a dynamic, fluid way. If you think that I wanted BIGFUCKSHITSTACK #1 and BIGFUCKSHITSTACK #2 smacking eachother with their phalli in my land, you're just wrong!

But at the same time, I got Rindyar and I'd like to keep it due to its position. I'm not defending this thing with everything I have and everything I can get in order to protect FCC's tender nutsack. I'm doing it because it's mine and you'll not take it from our grip unless you sever our fingers.

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I talk tough in diplomacy when the time comes, but I won't treat occitan/HP any different in-game. It's strategus and I guess I take it seriously, but it's a different game almost. I respect arowaine and what he does with occitan and I respect Tydeus and what he does with HP. I've merced for both of them, this will be a damned DIFFICULT fight and I know it.

P.S. Had arowaine pitched his deal more like a legitimate business agreement, but maintained that we would lose new rindyar, I would still have not agreed. I want to keep that shit, nothing more to say.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on January 23, 2013, 07:20:57 am

Sandy forgot to say one important detail about this whole ordeal:

Zero Party and Assitan are about to be force fed a heaping plate of Frisian cock waffles. You walked into the Frisian Diner and now you're going to get what we serve; fried chicken and cock, and we're all out of fried chicken. I hope you're ready to have some pipe laid down in your tender backsides by us working folk Frisians... and trust me, we've got some good pipe-layers.

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Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 07:49:28 am

Time to slaughter some sperg rebels. IF that's what you want. So be it.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Timmy_TheMadBadNerd on January 23, 2013, 08:37:01 am

Hey Shik suck a dick

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 23, 2013, 08:37:46 am

Please note that the opinions of my clan members do not represent my own. They are all our own adult human beings, and they can make their own decisions.

I do laugh heartily at each one in teamspeak, as I'm sure most posts with shit-talking, trolling, and other humor are laughed at by the opposing nerds in turn. Almost all of us are having fun at the end of the day, so everything's all good. I bet it would suck to get upset by textual and verbal stimuli on the interbutts. Sure would suck, yessir.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Artyem on January 23, 2013, 11:38:16 am

Dracul will sound the horns of war, we will prepare the C rations, we will set our national focus to soldiers, we will arm ourselves and come to the aid of our Frisian brothers in arms to help protect their freedom.

Get ready for a pounding you limp dicked, homophobic, facist, extremist BADMINS.

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insert generic insult about coward frogs

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: BaleOhay on January 23, 2013, 02:51:58 pm

The hero/occ/hosp alliance thinks we are done and need protecting? Interesting. We gave the castle to sanderson because we did not need another castle. Take a look at the map we give stuff away all the time and all of those people owe us nothing. As we owe nothing to them.

You all formed the alliance to beat us but for some reason the only people on the map not being attacked by it is the FCC? Instead u are using it to attack a small faction instead.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 02:59:18 pm

Quote from: BaleOhay on January 23, 2013, 02:51:58 pm

The hero/occ/hosp alliance thinks we are done and need protecting? Interesting. We gave the castle to sanderson because we did not need another castle. Take a look at the map we give stuff away all the time and all of those people owe us nothing. As we owe nothing to them.

You all formed the alliance to beat us but for some reason the only people on the map not being attacked by it is the FCC? Instead u are using it to attack a small faction instead.

Much better doing that than getting sandwich'd by vassals.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: BaleOhay on January 23, 2013, 03:03:50 pm

We do not have any. FCC is alone and helpless

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 03:07:29 pm

Quote from: BaleOhay on January 23, 2013, 03:03:50 pm

We do not have any. FCC is alone and helpless

And UIF never existed and DRZ was alone. Just ''friends'' near them.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Keshian on January 23, 2013, 03:12:47 pm

Quote from: BaleOhay on January 23, 2013, 03:03:50 pm

We do not have any. FCC is alone and helpless

 

This sums it up, we were all geared up and ready for a fight and then you guys pussy-footed out and ran away to attack a tiny faction fearing their giant 7 man faction would hit you from behind???  Really???  No tiny faction is going to do that and screw themselves over attacking a giant NA UIF with 140 members in 3 factions.  Its obvious you are just intimidated by us so you chose a faction 1/20th your size, well - other larger factions dont like bullies and are happy to help them out.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Rikthor on January 23, 2013, 03:22:15 pm

Am I the only one scratching my head in confusion at these posts?

Occitan believes the castle to be Hero Party property? Yes/No

Jabrona gave the Castle to Murdertron who gave it to the Frisian guys? Yes/No

So if this is a claim dispute, why not let the clans involved settle it.

My proposal: Let Hero Party fight Frisia for it, if they want it so bad. Hero PArty is already bigger and more active. Occitan stay out of it besides mercs, FCC stays out of it besides mercs. Let the two smaller clans duke it out.

After all, Occitan you have already saved Hero Party once from the 3man freedom fighters of BIRD, let them try to be on their own for a change. I would hate to think they couldn't handle a clan they outnumber 2 to 1.  8-)

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Turboflex on January 23, 2013, 04:17:03 pm

Frisia is a member of the Fimbulvetr alliance so I expect these two aggressors to turn around and flee now that they realize they are not just cherry picking a fief off a small 2 fief clan.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: oprah_winfrey on January 23, 2013, 04:25:31 pm

Quote from: Turboflex on January 23, 2013, 04:17:03 pm

Frisia is a member of the Fimbulvetr alliance so I expect these two aggressors to turn around and flee now that they realize they are not just cherry picking a fief off a small 2 fief clan.

Pretty sure hero party could finance these seiges with all the gear you gave us from the last time we were within your borders.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Turboflex on January 23, 2013, 04:29:21 pm

No doubt that was a screw up attacking that HP party with smaller merchant parties, please go on assuming all future encounters will be similar.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: oprah_winfrey on January 23, 2013, 04:41:15 pm

Quote from: Rikthor on January 23, 2013, 03:22:15 pm

Am I the only one scratching my head in confusion at these posts?

You seem to be confused, so I will try and explain:

1) BobWeaver was without internet for a month while training for work.
2) Rindyar ran out of gold
3) BobWeaver came back and I went up to give him gold/troops
4) While in transit, murdertron raided the castle that had like 200 troops in it. Obviously the seige was lost.
5) BobWeaver just gave murdertron the castle because he had no gold and lost his gear from the raid, at this point I was still way to far to reinforce it,
6)Murdertron gave the castle to sandy.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Goretooth on January 23, 2013, 05:06:06 pm

Quote from: BaleOhay on January 23, 2013, 02:51:58 pm

The hero/occ/hosp alliance thinks we are done and need protecting? Interesting. We gave the castle to sanderson because we did not need another castle. Take a look at the map we give stuff away all the time and all of those people owe us nothing. As we owe nothing to them.

You all formed the alliance to beat us but for some reason the only people on the map not being attacked by it is the FCC? Instead u are using it to attack a small faction instead.

Likely kesh and your posts that has everyone fighting against FCC. Maybe stop posting?

Quote from: Keshian on January 23, 2013, 03:12:47 pm

 

This sums it up, we were all geared up and ready for a fight and then you guys pussy-footed out and ran away to attack a tiny faction fearing their giant 7 man faction would hit you from behind???  Really???  No tiny faction is going to do that and screw themselves over attacking a giant NA UIF with 140 members in 3 factions.  Its obvious you are just intimidated by us so you chose a faction 1/20th your size, well - other larger factions dont like bullies and are happy to help them out.

If you want to have some open field battles i'm game.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Wesleysnipes on January 23, 2013, 05:15:05 pm

Calling Occitan Cowardly Frogs is the only insult people can come up with? Show some fucking respect. Most of you can't speak two languages. As the majority of Occitan are bilingual. I'm not picking sides here, just pointing out the stupidity.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: oprah_winfrey on January 23, 2013, 05:24:54 pm

Quote from: Wesleysnipes on January 23, 2013, 05:15:05 pm

Calling Occitan Cowardly Frogs is the only insult people can come up with? Show some fucking respect. Most of you can't speak two languages. As the majority of Occitan are bilingual. I'm not picking sides here, just pointing out the stupidity.

Yeah you would think there would be some sort of poutine eating/shitty Tim Horton coffee drinking/loonie toonie currency/TWO-FOUR insult.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 23, 2013, 05:27:43 pm

Quote from: Wesleysnipes on January 23, 2013, 05:15:05 pm

Calling Occitan Cowardly Frogs is the only insult people can come up with? Show some fucking respect. Most of you can't speak two languages. As the majority of Occitan are bilingual. I'm not picking sides here, just pointing out the stupidity.

You're right in a way, but you've got to also understand how accustomed these guys are to that by now. When arowaine invited me into TS, he spent around five minutes speaking about how its okay if I don't understand his "froggy accent". Of course I understood every word he said, I've worked with plenty of french-dominant players in other games, and used to have a sort of clan that had a sizable group of Norweigans that would frantically shout in their language (funniest shit I've heard in my life when they get worked up) whenever shit went down. Honestly I might see if they'll play with us; they're used to 150 ping in competitive shooters and would be stoked since they're basically irl vikings anyway.

Point is, these occitan folks take this in good stride. Some of its sort of a running joke, really. I'm not going to search through every post here, but I haven't seen any blatant awful disrespect either.

Edit: I'm a nerd and hit ctrl+f on all pages of this thread and searched the term "frog". Got two results, one from wesley and egan just very recently. Who's saying that they're frogs? Is it in another thread, or in reference to in-game, etc?

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Wesleysnipes on January 23, 2013, 05:29:02 pm

Lol Egan still makes me laugh about that two four.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Aztek on January 23, 2013, 05:50:44 pm

two four isn't a universal thing to say?

Also I don't know why FCC is calling this a Heroparty/Occitan/Hospitaller Alliance!?

Hero party and Les Chevaliers Occitans shared the same goal with us regarding FCC, and that was they needed to be stopped, if that makes us an alliance then FCC is Allied with Remnant and all the other clans that fought with them.

With all the shit hitting the fan everyone is trying to spin things to their favour, So I guess all this inevitable.
 
Blame Canada FCC!

Also, Occitan members have repeatedly asked that their new faction be called Les Chevaliers Occitans, as they are now 1 faction, I know spelling that out is kind of tiresome so why not just abbreviate it like all the other clans.. Just call them LCO if that makes it easier.

^^ to bad there was not a B in that abbreviation, they could have been the LCBO.. and we could have got a two four!  :P     (Ontario Joke)

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 23, 2013, 05:55:35 pm

Quote from: Aztek on January 23, 2013, 05:50:44 pm

two four isn't a universal thing to say?

Also I don't know why FCC is calling this a Heroparty/Occitan/Hospitaller Alliance!?

Hero party and Les Chevaliers Occitans shared the same goal with us regarding FCC, and that was they needed to be stopped, if that makes us an alliance then FCC is Allied with Remnant and all the other clans that fought with them.

With all the shit hitting the fan everyone is trying to spin things to their favour, So I guess all this inevitable.
 
Blame Canada FCC!

Also, Occitan members have repeatedly asked that their new faction be called Les Chevaliers Occitans, as they are now 1 faction, I know spelling that out is kind of tiresome so why not just abbreviate it like all the other clans.. Just call them LCO if that makes it easier.

^^ to bad there was not a B in that abbreviation, they could have been the LCBO.. and we could have got a two four!  :P     (Ontario Joke)

I'm from the American deep south...wouldn't hear any funny terms about any brand of canuckians if I kept my ears open for decades, ha.

However, it's important to note that Frisia and indeed Fimbulvetr has absolutely no desire for conflict with Hospitaller, and to my knowledge is not in such a conflict with Hospitaller. I'd like to consider Frisia quite friendly to Hospitaller, in fact. I cannot promise what other factions will do, but none of my folks will cause you ill will until we receive it from you first.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Aztek on January 23, 2013, 06:06:20 pm

Hospitaller has one true enemy, and that is Kesh!

Just like LCO was neutral with the remnant conflict, we are the same unless the faction in question is supporting/aiding FCC. Even on the roster for the upcoming battle we have guys on both sides.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Wesleysnipes on January 23, 2013, 06:06:38 pm

Fuck the LCBO! All about the SAQ! And when I brought up 2 4 everyone in ATS laughed at me but I thought it made sense. Dr. Egan told me the correct term is: Case

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Aztek on January 23, 2013, 06:12:04 pm

A two four (or 2 4) used to be the norm, But now they realised we canadians like to drink, so the cases are 28's and up..or like I buy now, 60 cases from costco! Mmm, Beer!

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Wesleysnipes on January 23, 2013, 06:15:16 pm

Quebec Costco beer is retarded cheap.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: oprah_winfrey on January 23, 2013, 06:18:41 pm

@Sandy: The frog thing is from Kesh's post when Kesh called occitan frogs because they didn't make a proper declaration thread. Or something like that.

LCO sounds too much like LBO, and I could do without thinking of leveraged buyouts.

I have heard it called a 24 (twenty-four), but a two four just sounds really blunt.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Wesleysnipes on January 23, 2013, 06:24:55 pm

@Egan: Go eat your New York freedom fries.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Aztek on January 23, 2013, 06:26:49 pm

When your telling someone to buy beer its quicker to say "two-four" than "twen-ty-four". That was always my reasoning.

And its all about getting that beer asap! One syllable can make the difference between getting to the store on time! ...  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 06:31:59 pm

FCC will win the forum war because Canary will mute you all for not sperg roleplaying. 

Angry roleplaying drama and hating other clans > Casual friendly talk apparently.



Anyhow to prevent Canary from Canary'ing himself and muting me i'll get on-topic.
I think it's stupid you ran to NH. It reminds me of when a certain other clan ran to FCC. Fight your battles and take it like a man. It's you who caused this. Stop hiding behind other clans to do your dirty work.

And HP didn't hide behind Occitan. HP steamrolled BIRD Clan hard with Goat, Rohypnol, Blackzilla, Smooth amongst other rushing your lands and taking most fiefs besides the city and 1 castle.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Rikthor on January 23, 2013, 06:49:57 pm

Quote from: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 06:31:59 pm

And HP didn't hide behind Occitan. HP steamrolled you hard with Goat, Rohypnol, Blackzilla, Smooth amongst other rushing your lands and taking most fiefs besides the city and 1 castle.

Nope

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Turboflex on January 23, 2013, 06:53:21 pm

Quote from: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 06:31:59 pm

I think it's stupid you ran to NH. It reminds me of when a certain other clan ran to FCC. Fight your battles and take it like a man. It's you who caused this. Stop hiding behind other clans to do your dirty work.

Our alliance discussions were happening 2 weeks ago, long before Shik's army was spotted leaving the desert (let alone any Occitan). I think we had even created Fimbulvetr faction about a week ago but it just takes a while to get people tagged in strat.

BTW pretty funny you talking about bravery when you assumed you were a 90 member alliance attacking 15 member Frisia clan?

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Wesleysnipes on January 23, 2013, 06:56:43 pm

Canary has a bird brain.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 23, 2013, 07:18:12 pm

Quote from: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 06:31:59 pm

FCC will win the forum war because Canary will mute you all for not sperg roleplaying. 

Angry roleplaying drama and hating other clans > Casual friendly talk apparently.



Anyhow to prevent Canary from Canary'ing himself and muting me i'll get on-topic.
I think it's stupid you ran to NH. It reminds me of when a certain other clan ran to FCC. Fight your battles and take it like a man. It's you who caused this. Stop hiding behind other clans to do your dirty work.

And HP didn't hide behind Occitan. HP steamrolled BIRD Clan hard with Goat, Rohypnol, Blackzilla, Smooth amongst other rushing your lands and taking most fiefs besides the city and 1 castle.

I'll give you a nugget of sperg-nerd intel as a sign of good(?) faith. Frisia, NH, Dracul, other(s) who I don't have the liberty to freely implicate had quite solid plans to invade HG and divide it amongst us. That's quite common knowledge amongst the strat-minded of us. Of course the situation has drastically changed, and I'm in contact with Elindor from HG as well, so I feel comfortable posting this.

Don't you think I would have rather done that than fight you guys? What do I gain from fighting you guys? Nothing other than the security of New Rindyar, I stand to gain nothing and lose more than half of what I have. Does that sound like a sound strategic decision to you?

If we cried to papa Digglez that HP and Les Chevalier Occitans are at our doorstep with a fuckshitstack of troops, do you REALLY think that DIGGLEZ would have backed me? He would have called me an idiot for waiting this long to buddy up and told me he wishes me luck and nothing more.

Seriously, NH IS LED BY DIGGLEZ. The man isn't the most charitable among us, even though I like him more than most. He doesn't have beef with you guys all that much to begin with, so it wouldn't make sense. Fimbulvetr was intended to become a major power with more land, but we'll be more than happy to bleed you white much like the Krauts were bled dry at Stalingrad and Smolensk.

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Sorry for being a liar and posting more, the sperg-bell tolls, it tolls for me

Edit: Fimbulvetr gets many fiefs but few players from NH and Dracul. We have the players and we're growing fast. How many players does HP have? How many does Les Chevalier Occitans have? I posted the numbers on the front.

Who's hiding behind a bigger faction again? Who's, in fact, making the first attack on us?

HP forum powerlevel: Smoothrich>Egan>BADPLAYER>ANYONE I have forgotten>a particularly terrifyingly eloquent rock>Berenger

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Malaclypse on January 23, 2013, 07:47:05 pm

In Minnesota supermarkets and convenience stores aren't allowed to sell beer above 3.2% alcohol content by weight (unless they want to pay a much heftier fee to obtain a license for regular beer). I know Colorado and some other states have the same thing in effect- anyway, people call it "three-two beer" for obvious reasons, the whole two-four thing made me think of it. This thread is now about shitty beer.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Zanze on January 23, 2013, 07:56:03 pm

As a nondescript member of NH and the new Fimbulvetr Alliance,

Jump on my spear while you can, Occitans. I won't be as gentle!

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 23, 2013, 07:57:45 pm

Quote from: Malaclypse on January 23, 2013, 07:47:05 pm

In Minnesota supermarkets and convenience stores aren't allowed to sell beer above 3.2% alcohol content by weight (unless they want to pay a much heftier fee to obtain a license for regular beer). I know Colorado and some other states have the same thing in effect- anyway, people call it "three-two beer" for obvious reasons, the whole two-four thing made me think of it. This thread is now about shitty beer.

yeah thats' what I was thinking two-four meant (until I read further).  Wisconsin sucks dick but it is nice when I visit friends over there I can just walk into a gas station and pick up some hard liquor or beer.

Ruh Roh posting in diplomacy again...Peppo's gonna rape my cats tonight.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Holiday203 on January 23, 2013, 08:02:41 pm

Quote from: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 06:31:59 pm

FCC will win the forum war because Canary will mute you all for not sperg roleplaying. 

Angry roleplaying drama and hating other clans > Casual friendly talk apparently.



Anyhow to prevent Canary from Canary'ing himself and muting me i'll get on-topic.
I think it's stupid you ran to NH. It reminds me of when a certain other clan ran to FCC. Fight your battles and take it like a man. It's you who caused this. Stop hiding behind other clans to do your dirty work.

And HP didn't hide behind Occitan. HP steamrolled BIRD Clan hard with Goat, Rohypnol, Blackzilla, Smooth amongst other rushing your lands and taking most fiefs besides the city and 1 castle.

Were you not in BIRD? God guy you are such a tool, Try to stick with one clan and you are definitely not a hero by any means.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 08:04:29 pm

Quote from: Holiday203 on January 23, 2013, 08:02:41 pm

Were you not in BIRD? God guy you are such a tool, Try to stick with one clan and you are definitely not a hero by any means.

I were in LLJK which then turned into BIRD Clan a.ka FCC Vassals. The more you know. And betraying your contracts/allies twice in a row isn't any better lol.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Holiday203 on January 23, 2013, 08:11:16 pm

Quote from: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 08:04:29 pm

I were in LLJK which then turned into BIRD Clan a.ka FCC Vassals. The more you know. And betraying your contracts/allies twice in a row isn't any better lol.

Where did you get "twice" from guy?

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on January 23, 2013, 08:15:18 pm

Quote from: Wesleysnipes on January 23, 2013, 05:15:05 pm

Calling Occitan Cowardly Frogs is the only insult people can come up with? Show some fucking respect. Most of you can't speak two languages. As the majority of Occitan are bilingual. I'm not picking sides here, just pointing out the stupidity.

I speak English and German, and I refrain from calling Occitan anything but Assitan. You stand corrected.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Rikthor on January 23, 2013, 08:17:20 pm

Quote from: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 08:04:29 pm

I were in LLJK which then turned into BIRD Clan a.ka FCC Vassals. The more you know. And betraying your contracts/allies twice in a row isn't any better lol.

Since Berenger wants to keep posting like he is a big boy, it's time for some facts to be laid down by the Official Historian of LLJK/BIRD clan™.

1. Berenger was in LLJK

2. Berenger was in BIRD for all of a week

3. Berenger left BIRD after we sold off Jameyyed to VE so he could start his utterly horrible invasion of Niemand that resulted in him not even making a step into EU.

4. Let Fact 3 sink in, he literally could not even attack a known n a z i that the large majority of the community despises.

5. Berenger was not part of the leadership of BIRD nor involved with any decisions.

6. Berenger never interacted with Kesh or FCC for that matter as FCC's support came later after he was already gone.

7. Berenger is a poorman's troll and is spouting most of his recent drivel because he thinks he is "TROLIN KESH SO HARD LOL"

Berenger, I say this as a friend, quit posting and take a lap. Cool off some, let Badplayer do the posting while Smooth is muted. Badplayer is a much better troll and actually funny. Even Smoothrich's nonsensical history and racism trolling and posts are better than your recent stuff.

Sorry to the Frisia guys for this interruption.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on January 23, 2013, 08:27:50 pm

It's great that the quartet of Zero Party nerds still try to spin this situation to their light in typical bad "xD www.reddit.com i lerned to TROLL U SO HARD LOL!" fashion. Your position is indefensible, and I hope you're prepared to be anally annihilated, ass assassinated, booty bombarded, pooper peeved, rectally ravaged, and donk demolished.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 08:36:53 pm

Quote from: Rikthor on January 23, 2013, 08:17:20 pm

Since Berenger wants to keep posting like he is a big boy, it's time for some facts to be laid down by the Official Historian of LLJK/BIRD clan™.

1. Berenger was in LLJK
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2. Berenger was in BIRD for all of a week
- Still saw how the clan was turning out to be/b]

3. Berenger left BIRD after we sold off Jameyyed to VE so he could start his utterly horrible invasion of Niemand that resulted in him not even making a step into EU.

- A.ka Hide behind FCC and shrinking

4. Let Fact 3 sink in, he literally could not even attack a known n a z i that the large majority of the community despises.

- The organization of it was the flaw and i got stopped by trading partners of CFA in NA.

5. Berenger was not part of the leadership of BIRD nor involved with any decisions.
Check

- So?

6. Berenger never interacted with Kesh or FCC for that matter as FCC's support came later after he was already gone.

- Still saw the Pro-FCC propaganda running wild

7. Berenger is a poorman's troll and is spouting most of his recent drivel because he thinks he is "TROLIN KESH SO HARD LOL"

- I'm not a sophisticated troll. This isn't SA. I don't get banned for getting some neckbeard laugh lol. I just spit out random stupid shit because i can.

Besides you used to be all about LLJK. Before strat 4.0 began you wanted it to make its 'epic' comeback to defeat all spergs and reclaim goon glory more than anyone else.

You and i were probably in 4.0 when Phanny was gone 2 most active into it. And then you just suddenly went all Pro-FCC. Makes no sense really.

Now LLJK is dead and you're part of the FCC war-machine.


And besides i stayed in LLJK till its end and could've just as well left for HP with the castle, all gear and gold. But i was loyal to LLJK anyhow. I wasn't about to be turned into a FCC vassal however.


Think about it when you were all about LLJK.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: SHinOCk on January 23, 2013, 08:44:39 pm

Quote from: Rikthor on January 23, 2013, 03:22:15 pm

Am I the only one scratching my head in confusion at these posts?

Occitan believes the castle to be Hero Party property? Yes/No

Jabrona gave the Castle to Murdertron who gave it to the Frisian guys? Yes/No

So if this is a claim dispute, why not let the clans involved settle it.

My proposal: Let Hero Party fight Frisia for it, if they want it so bad. Hero PArty is already bigger and more active. Occitan stay out of it besides mercs, FCC stays out of it besides mercs. Let the two smaller clans duke it out.

After all, Occitan you have already saved Hero Party once from the 3man freedom fighters of BIRD, let them try to be on their own for a change. I would hate to think they couldn't handle a clan they outnumber 2 to 1.  8-)

That's indeed what we think and we decided to support our ally in taking back their claim. It has nothing to do with strategic position as we were comfortable with the options we already had to get up there. It also has nothing to do with being too pussy to attack FCC lol please... If we were such cowards, we would've left Hospitallers to die in Strat 2 at Yruma castle when pretty much everybody gave us the option to go away in peace. When we start fighting, we do it till there's no point in doing it anymore, whatever the consequences.

I for one would've taken a different approach to this whole thing as we have more pressing matters to deal with than attack an ''enemy'' that has such a defensive advantage and who will most likely be reinforced as much as possible but hey! nobody listen to the voice of wisdom.... ever. 

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Turboflex on January 23, 2013, 08:57:57 pm

How come Les Chevaliers de l'Occitan had to be the first wave when Shik has been up there for 2 days?

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on January 23, 2013, 09:26:13 pm

Quote from: Turboflex on January 23, 2013, 08:57:57 pm

How come Occitan had to be the first wave when Shik has been up there for 2 days?

I find this to be a fantastic question.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: BaleOhay on January 23, 2013, 09:28:41 pm

Can we agree that occ =occitan chev clan for ease of purpose.

Shinny I will wave to you from the top of the wall.

good ol goretooth always sincere and useful retorts

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: partyboy on January 23, 2013, 09:40:42 pm

Berenger hops from clan to clan depending on who was the last person to say something nice to him.  I think he left BIRD because I told him he couldn't be rude to people on the forums when he was in the clan.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 23, 2013, 09:55:33 pm

Quote from: Daruvian on January 23, 2013, 08:27:50 pm

It's great that the quartet of Zero Party nerds still try to spin this situation to their light in typical bad "xD www.reddit.com i lerned to TROLL U SO HARD LOL!" fashion. Your position is indefensible, and I hope you're prepared to be anally annihilated, ass assassinated, booty bombarded, pooper peeved, rectally ravaged, and donk demolished.

Thank you everyone for forcing this man to come up with another anal alliteration (heh hehehehehehhueheu), I'd not heard of "pooper peeved" nor "donk demolished" before.

Truly, you're going to cause this man to go commercial with this shit. Hearing new shit like this every day for a few now is groundbreaking.

He's going to write a handbook on how to talk shit to other nerds on the internet.

And he's going to make

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Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 10:19:58 pm

Quote from: partyboy on January 23, 2013, 09:40:42 pm

Berenger hops from clan to clan depending on who was the last person to say something nice to him.  I think he left BIRD because I told him he couldn't be rude to people on the forums when he was in the clan.

I should've never been in BIRD Clan in the first place lol. It's a 1 man clan. But then it turned into an Open Recruitment clan and FCC vassal.

Also yes i was very sad when i couldn't say bad things to the bad evil ppl on the forumz.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Aztek on January 23, 2013, 10:29:22 pm

Quote from: BaleOhay on January 23, 2013, 09:28:41 pm

Can we agree that occ =occitan chev clan for ease of purpose.

Shinny I will wave to you from the top of the wall.

good ol goretooth always sincere and useful retorts

You didn't like my LCO instead? (Les Chevaliers Occitan) Occ is just too close to occitan and takes away from the chevaliers IMO.. But yes, some how we need to shorten it :p

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: oprah_winfrey on January 23, 2013, 10:32:42 pm

Quote from: Aztek on January 23, 2013, 10:29:22 pm

You didn't like my LCO instead? (Les Chevaliers Occitan) Occ is just too close to occitan and takes away from the chevaliers IMO.. But yes, some how we need to shorten it :p

I would like CO better, since les is just an article. Then again so is the and we have tkov.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Rikthor on January 23, 2013, 10:45:52 pm

Quote from: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 08:36:53 pm

I'm not a sophisticated troll. This isn't SA. I don't get banned for getting some neckbeard laugh lol. I just spit out random stupid shit because i can.

And that my friends is all you need to know.

Quote from: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 08:36:53 pm

Besides you used to be all about LLJK. Before strat 4.0 began you wanted it to make its 'epic' comeback to defeat all spergs and reclaim goon glory more than anyone else.

Nope. You may be projecting a bit there killer. Defeat spergs sure because this is strat and fighting people as goons who take this game way too seriously is funny. No one has cared about empire building. That stuff was always left to Gaga, Phantom, and Smoothrich. 

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You and i were probably in 4.0 when Phanny was gone 2 most active into it. And then you just suddenly went all Pro-FCC. Makes no sense really.

So pro-FCC in fact I turned down Kesh's offer to come join FCC in the north?

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Now LLJK is dead and you're part of the FCC war-machine.

I am neutral in strat with no clan, Arowaine can confirm that. Not to mention I have fought for Occitan against the FCC, so I am clearly apart of the FCC war-machine :rolleyes:

Again, apologies to the Frisia guys for shitting up your thread with this nonsense, but trying to do my part to bring order and peace to these forums in these troubled times. :mrgreen:

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 23, 2013, 11:03:33 pm

Quote from: Rikthor on January 23, 2013, 10:45:52 pm

And that my friends is all you need to know.

Nope. You may be projecting a bit there killer. Defeat spergs sure because this is strat and fighting people as goons who take this game way too seriously is funny. No one has cared about empire building. That stuff was always left to Gaga, Phantom, and Smoothrich. 

So pro-FCC in fact I turned down Kesh's offer to come join FCC in the north?

I am neutral in strat with no clan, Arowaine can confirm that. Not to mention I have fought for Occitan against the FCC, so I am clearly apart of the FCC war-machine :rolleyes:

Again, apologies to the Frisia guys for shitting up your thread with this nonsense, but trying to do my part to bring order and peace to these forums in these troubled times. :mrgreen:

Maybe you didn't see the 3/4 of a page civil discussion about canadian beers or whatever?

You're more than fine, the historian is welcome to lecture briefly or at length here. No worries at all  :D

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: BaleOhay on January 23, 2013, 11:08:34 pm

Quote from: Aztek on January 23, 2013, 10:29:22 pm

You didn't like my LCO instead? (Les Chevaliers Occitan) Occ is just too close to occitan and takes away from the chevaliers IMO.. But yes, some how we need to shorten it :p

how bout OCc then :)the O and C are equally important because of that impressive capitalization :)

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Aztek on January 23, 2013, 11:46:43 pm

When I see OCc I think if OCD..and then I think of ADD.. and then I think of getting back to painting the bathroom before the wife yells at me.. And then I think of how could I come up with some invention to make me millions.. and then I think of how much fun you could have with all the money in the world.. and then I think of staying healthy.. and then I think screw that I want a bacon burger.. and then I think of.... what were we talking about then?

oh yes, ACDC!

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You've been.. Thunderstruck!

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: SHinOCk on January 23, 2013, 11:52:55 pm

Quote from: Aztek on January 23, 2013, 11:46:43 pm

When I see OCc I think if OCD..and then I think of ADD.. and then I think of getting back to painting the bathroom before the wife yells at me.. And then I think of how could I come up with some invention to make me millions.. and then I think of how much fun you could have with all the money in the world.. and then I think of staying healthy.. and then I think screw that I want a bacon burger.. and then I think of.... what were we talking about then?

oh yes, ACDC!

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You've been.. Thunderstruck!

I think you think way too much

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 23, 2013, 11:57:30 pm

Quote from: Aztek on January 23, 2013, 11:46:43 pm

When I see OCc I think if OCD..and then I think of ADD.. and then I think of getting back to painting the bathroom before the wife yells at me.. And then I think of how could I come up with some invention to make me millions.. and then I think of how much fun you could have with all the money in the world.. and then I think of staying healthy.. and then I think screw that I want a bacon burger.. and then I think of.... what were we talking about then?

oh yes, ACDC!

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You've been.. Thunderstruck!

We were talking about how awesome Natty Ice is...


....and that's all that occitan and Hero party are going to get once it's done!

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Tanken on January 24, 2013, 12:28:16 am

I pledge allegiance to the Banner of the United States of Smoothrich, Hospitaller, and Occitan combined forces.
And to the Reformation of Calradia for which it stands,
one nation under Shik,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on January 24, 2013, 02:33:23 am

Fucking cav, man.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Arjay on January 24, 2013, 02:34:40 am

Quote from: Tank Burner on January 24, 2013, 12:28:16 am

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And to the Reformation of Calradia for which it stands,
one nation under Shik,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Goretooth on January 24, 2013, 04:05:24 am

Quote from: BaleOhay on January 23, 2013, 09:28:41 pm

Can we agree that occ =occitan chev clan for ease of purpose.

Shinny I will wave to you from the top of the wall.

good ol goretooth always sincere and useful retorts

Dunno about you or care. To me your the guy I stole stuff from in strat 3  :mrgreen:.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on January 24, 2013, 04:44:20 am

This thread is titled "the facts and Frisia's current position". After that battle we just observed I can state something with utter certainty about the facts and our position.

You know what the facts and Frisia's current position are?

The fact is that we're fucking Zero Party/Assitan and our position is kneeling behind their tender poopholes, pounding it doggy style.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: BlackWhite on January 24, 2013, 04:47:33 am

How bout them catapaults?

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 24, 2013, 04:48:32 am

Good fight, even if the map is damned shitty.

To arowaine and anyone else, you must know that the shit-talking from both me and daruvian is all in good fun. We respect a lot of you folks, and you seemed a bit upset at first. I realize that daruvian can take it quite far, but I really don't think its anything unusual. We're having fun in our own way, and encourage you to do the same. It's funnier with 2 sides flinging shit rather than 1, you know?

Look forward to future fights with you, likely they will be more fun. I'm sure we will still have fun with our words in our own way; but can you expect much different when by coincidence (or act of a dickhead deity) you fight alongside some of the best shit-talkers in NA? I bet arathian said yolo at least 150 times that siege.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Harrys Oil Can on January 24, 2013, 05:16:01 am

Quote from: Sandersson Jankins on January 24, 2013, 04:48:32 am

best shit-talkers in NA.

wat????

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 24, 2013, 05:27:56 am

Quote from: Harrys Oil Can on January 24, 2013, 05:16:01 am

wat????

Hey man, edited my post to reflect my actual opinion...bit of a typo.

BYA, Ryden, Spook, Smoothrich, BADPLAYER, Chesteclese should all deserve very honorable mentions for shit-talking. Anybody I forgot, call me a my old friend or something.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Harrys Oil Can on January 24, 2013, 05:36:05 am

All I'm saying is you guys better step up your game. I can fit a lot of dick in my ass.

I learned from the best. See sig.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Fringe on January 24, 2013, 05:36:42 am

Quote from: Sandersson Jankins on January 24, 2013, 05:27:56 am

Hey man, edited my post to reflect my actual opinion...bit of a typo.

BYA, Ryden, Spook, Smoothrich, BADPLAYER, Chesteclese should all deserve very honorable mentions for shit-talking. Anybody I forgot, call me a my old friend or something.

my old friend, forgot Berenger, although I'm still deciding whether he's a shit talker or a shitty talker.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: BlackWhite on January 24, 2013, 05:51:00 am

Quote from: Harrys Oil Can on January 24, 2013, 05:36:05 am

All I'm saying is you guys better step up your game. I can fit a lot of dick in my ass.

I learned from the best. See sig.

Was expecting some expert trolling... lol

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Canary on January 24, 2013, 05:52:14 am

Quote from: Wesleysnipes on January 23, 2013, 06:56:43 pm

Canary has a bird brain.

This means war!

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Nightingale on January 24, 2013, 05:56:11 am

Quote from: Canary on January 24, 2013, 05:52:14 am

This means war!

O_o!

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Kreczor on January 24, 2013, 06:00:24 am

Quote from: Canary on January 24, 2013, 05:52:14 am

This means war!

They'll never get away with such a heinous crime! To the gallows!

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Tanken on January 24, 2013, 06:05:16 am

Shall I add Chaos to the pledge of allegiance? :?:

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Havelle on January 24, 2013, 06:10:32 am

Went a little something like that

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Matey on January 24, 2013, 06:25:05 am

occ? lco? PAH!

Call them the French Canadien Clans, or FCC.. oh wait... Let's just call them The French.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Wesleysnipes on January 24, 2013, 06:53:26 am

Quote from: Canary on January 24, 2013, 05:52:14 am

This means war!

My plan is complete. I knew it wouldn't take much to trigger a man with the case of: Bird Brain...

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Holiday203 on January 24, 2013, 07:16:06 am

Quote from: LordBerenger on January 23, 2013, 10:19:58 pm

I should've never been in BIRD Clan in the first place lol. It's a 1 man clan. But then it turned into an Open Recruitment clan and FCC vassal.

Also yes i was very sad when i couldn't say bad things to the bad evil ppl on the forumz.

Yo man lets face it, you are gay and a bundle of sticks LOL

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: oprah_winfrey on January 24, 2013, 03:16:49 pm

1) This castle gave me flashbacks to Tilbaut Castle.
2) Fuck BobWeaver for making +3 clown armor (blue&red tranny)
3) Why wasn't Vovka there to open the gate?

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Equal on January 24, 2013, 11:54:33 pm

Pardon my score - only 1 WPF in Crossbow  :lol:

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Honestly though that castle must be a bitch to attack. Defense ftw

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Keshian on January 25, 2013, 02:23:05 am

Quote from: Equal on January 24, 2013, 11:54:33 pm

Pardon my score - only 1 WPF in Crossbow  :lol:

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Honestly though that castle must be a bitch to attack. Defense ftw

bANGbROS!!!!

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Artyem on January 25, 2013, 08:51:53 am

Nice fucking night time settings, Occitan.

5:00 AM PST, despicable.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Gmnotutoo on January 25, 2013, 09:00:17 am

Quote from: Equal on January 24, 2013, 11:54:33 pm

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Defending as an archer in a castle is heaven but anything else is just misery. I have nightmares about Cavalry when I sleep.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: SHinOCk on January 25, 2013, 09:18:47 am

Quote from: Artyem on January 25, 2013, 08:51:53 am

Nice fucking night time settings, Occitan.

5:00 AM PST, despicable.

I'm gonna clear this now and only this time... We live in Quebec (eastern time) and 90% of the members have jobs and other responsibilities they prioritize over this game that seems to be played by way too many fat whiny bitches on welfare according to what i read most of the time on this forum(Pardon my language). With that being said, our night time is set at something we think as a clan is decent which is midnight to 8am. It won't change for anyone and too bad for all the west coasters out there but we really don't give a damn about your needs... Clan members > You.

 Also, if the night time system was not so retarded, it would be set from midnight to fucking 5pm so we would have time to sleep, deal with our god damned work day and wash and eat before we HAVE to get into the game and defend ourselves against people that decide to attack at 12:30am est

You want prime time? prime time is between 7pm and 11:30pm EST because I AND MY CLAN are eastern and I'm pretty sure most people in the same time zone agree with the time. You wanna attack when everybody is sleeping and fight against half a roster? Keep attacking after midnight and reap the benefits of a wonderful tactic given on a silver platter by a flawed (terrible) night time system and we will deal with it the only way we should which is by not giving a fuck anymore.


Remember strat 2..... remember Yruma castle -_-

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 25, 2013, 10:07:17 am

We didn't look at the nighttime, we were pretty gung-ho about it. That's our bad, I guess. Although we wanted him very close to rindyar and he was hoofing it out of there. Sure, 1k crates slows him down, but shik could have a 3k shiny in the forest next to rindyar for all I know.

Although, please consider, isn't a fight at 2am in which only a few of you guys can show up with tons of NA mercs better than an 8am fight with EU, chinese mercs? We're profiting from this although we don't want to....we have odd sleep schedules, 3rd shifters, insomniacs, and hardcore nerds.

Please consider setting your nighttime from 2am-10am. Please consider the community as a whole with these night-times. We won't set our nighttimes to get us battles at our nerdsperg time, either. We'll do 2am-10am mostly.

We are not unsympathetic nor are we all no-job vidja game all day nerds. We've got shit to do as well; no way to tell if we have more or less shit to do than you.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Malaclypse on January 25, 2013, 01:17:47 pm

Everybody should honestly just turn off their night-time. It's a dumb, magical feature. Who cares if you can't make it to your own fight, somebody will pick up the pieces.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Keshian on January 25, 2013, 03:05:18 pm

Quote from: SHinOCk on January 25, 2013, 09:18:47 am

You want prime time? prime time is between 7pm and 11:30pm EST because I AND MY CLAN are eastern and I'm pretty sure most people in the same time zone agree with the time. You wanna attack when everybody is sleeping and fight against half a roster? Keep attacking after midnight and reap the benefits of a wonderful tactic given on a silver platter by a flawed (terrible) night time system and we will deal with it the only way we should which is by not giving a fuck anymore.


Remember strat 2..... remember Yruma castle -_-

A bunch of us are eastern, with only 8 hours for nighttime you have to consider what is prime time isn't only 4 hours but extends slightly on either side.  So 5 pm EST to 2 am EST you can still fill rosters with NA players including east coasters.  3 am to 10 am is a death sentence for getting NA mercs and even somewhat difficult for eu mercs.  10 am to 5 pm you can get a few more NA mercs but EU mercs even easier to get and then back at 5 pm you can start getting almost all NA mercs for your roster.  I highly doubt your "eastcoasters" prefer fighting at 8 am then at midnight, especially if they work, they likely just won't show, so your nighttime setting obviously doesn't work for what its supposed to do - avoid the periods where roster filling is very difficult. 

(Though i have to admit all the 6-8 am battles we have had hospitallers and occitan usually have half again as many mercs show up and its mostly there na fighters not eu mercs - i guess you are right shincock - your clans are more full of those "fat whiny bitches on welfare" that can make those shitty time slots).   For those of us that work 8 am is a shitty shitty time slot, 12 am not really that bad - its a choice between a little less sleep and showing up for late for work - yeah you are going to either get less sleep or not show up at all - no one in their right mind will show up late for work for this silliness.


P.S. Remember Yruma castle???  Isn't that the one where we were attackers of a castle and we did better than a 1:1 k/d with 1/3rd as expensive gear??  yeah lets remember Yruma, the opposite of Rindyar!

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Elindor on January 25, 2013, 05:11:11 pm

Imho...

PRIME TIME for NA is around 8 PM - 1 AM EASTERN (5 PM - 10 PM PACIFIC)

Too much earlier and pacific is at work/class still, too much later and eastern players show up to work/class the next day like zombies.
Honestly, they just need to have a SET WINDOW OF TIME that battles happen in for NA and one for EU based on this principle.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Turboflex on January 25, 2013, 05:38:02 pm

Yeah but battles that start at midnight can run 2 hours.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 25, 2013, 05:38:58 pm

In addition to my arguments, "not giving a fuck" doesn't fix the problem, while it is good for making a point that you REALLY think you're right. Problem is, I think we're in the right. Simple as 2am>8am. Hell, not even 2am because sure that's quite late. 1am>8am too.

Remember, this is coming from a guy that has 4 of his very best confirmed as showing up to this battle with plenty of EU help. We hate these fights just like you do; we just consider us to be free of blame. What I think are poor nighttime settings will not render you invulnerable during those hours....we felt we had to attack to prevent your man from fleeing further.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: MURDERTRON on January 25, 2013, 05:44:37 pm

Quote from: SHinOCk on January 25, 2013, 09:18:47 am

You want prime time? prime time is between 7pm and 11:30pm EST because I AND MY CLAN are eastern and I'm pretty sure most people in the same time zone agree with the time. You wanna attack when everybody is sleeping and fight against half a roster? Keep attacking after midnight and reap the benefits of a wonderful tactic given on a silver platter by a flawed (terrible) night time system and we will deal with it the only way we should which is by not giving a fuck anymore.


Remember strat 2..... remember Yruma castle -_-

It's kind of shitty that you are employing a scorched earth policy.  You are admitting that you are not likely to make any battles at 8am, yet you set your night time just to spite everyone else.  A more effective night time that would benefit you is ending it when you get home from work so you can enjoy more battles.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Haramir on January 25, 2013, 07:02:38 pm

Quote from: Artyem on January 25, 2013, 08:51:53 am

Nice fucking night time settings, Occitan.

5:00 AM PST, despicable.

Seriously Artyem show some respect, its not like we mess up our night time to avoid a battle.  Many of the eastern player got there setting around these hours maybe one or two hours difference at maximum.  The night time is no secret and you cant be mad at us for not wanting to fight from 1 am to 3 am .  Keep in mind that it is intend to do the battle in the evening and to finish around midnight for us.

Furthermore, even if we got our ass totally kicked at the siege ( i was part of the failure with the catapult) We made sure to fight at a convenient time for everyone so we could all be present on both sides for this big siege.       Please just think about all the big battle that occur around 2 am to 6 am before in this round of start.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 25, 2013, 07:11:26 pm

Quote from: Haramir on January 25, 2013, 07:02:38 pm

Seriously Artyem show some respect, its not like we mess up our night time to avoid a battle.  Many of the eastern player got there setting around these hours maybe one or two hours difference at maximum.  The night time is no secret and you cant be mad at us for not wanting to fight from 1 am to 3 am .  Keep in mind that it is intend to do the battle in the evening and to finish around midnight for us.

Furthermore, even if we got our ass totally kicked at the siege ( i was part of the failure with the catapult) We made sure to fight at a convenient time for everyone so we could all be present on both sides for this big siege.       Please just think about all the big battle that occur around 2 am to 6 am before in this round of start.

Although I tend to support damn near everything Artyem said, that was quite off-colour. Respect to haramir for not retorting with something similar. I think your battle-times are pretty silly, but I KNOW you guys aren't doing it on purpose to fuck anyone over...I don't think many if any people have done that in this strat. Still, you're fucking plenty of people over...fortunately for us I guess, I think most of those people are yours. I guess we'll see who it fucks the hardest at EIGHT IN DA MO'NING SATURDAY

As far as I remember, the nighttime said 8:00-16:00 when we attacked him...although we didn't even talk about the nighttime before attacking. Just stating what I remember; memory is unreliable. The court system will barely pass sentence on testimony of eye-witnesses anymore, heh. Do trust me that our intent is not to make shitty battles. I want to win by being a BETTER nerd, not a BIGGER nerd.

It's hard to go to you guys and make sure the battle will be at the correct time due to the dynamic of INTERNET WAR...but we'll do our best, guys. I still recommend you set nighttime to begin at 2am, but even setting it at 12:30 would be better than what it is now. I do not ask you to set your nighttime later than 2am, that would be silly. But the nighttime you have DOESNT WORK for what you want. It just makes us have 8am battles sometimes. If the nighttime could last for 12 hours or more it would work. It doesn't, sadly.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sir_Mahtin on January 25, 2013, 07:49:07 pm

Dunno why people get so butthurt about time... if you have a family, pretty sure that takes priority over games.  If you can make the time good for you, but if you can't and complain... shame on you.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: MURDERTRON on January 25, 2013, 08:02:58 pm

Quote from: Sir_Mahtin on January 25, 2013, 07:49:07 pm

Dunno why people get so butthurt about time... if you have a family, pretty sure that takes priority over games.  If you can make the time good for you, but if you can't and complain... shame on you.

No one is saying you can't or shouldn't.  The issue is you guys are saying "if we can't play the battle, neither should the rest if NA".  This is NA strat, let NA players fight the battles on NA ping.  Let your map clicks generate exp for your NA bretheren, even if its bot for yourself.  Your allies have enough players to fill the roster and I imagine that one out of 50 LCO can control the roster after midnight.

I mean if you really want to scorch the earth, I will just ask everyone to have their night time to end at midnight and then boom, all your strat clicks were for nothing.  Most people here are asking for a reasonable compromise, so we can all play this fun game together.  What you're doing is bad for strategus and bad for the NA community.  Terrible night time settings can go both ways, but lets not resort to that.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 25, 2013, 08:05:33 pm

If they can't play the battle, why would they want the people attacking them to have their full roster, while they have all mercs?

You people have some very rosy colored glasses.  Take a deep breath, and try to put yourselves in their shoes.  I'd prefer to have a battle go to 8am than have all of us miss a late night battle, while all the jobless/west coasters are able to make it for the enemy team.

What Shinock said would be best, if we could set a 16 hour "nighttime" window, that would cover sleep and work. 

You tried to attack at 12:30am, that would work for you, but not for the defenders...why would they want you to be able to have all your players in the battle, and they would be sleeping?  Wouldn't it be better to have it at 8am where now BOTH sides (instead of one) have to hire other mercs?  I know you guys are all extremely biased, but this is basic logic here.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Keshian on January 25, 2013, 08:18:44 pm

Quote from: CrazyCracka420 on January 25, 2013, 08:05:33 pm

If they can't play the battle, why would they want the people attacking them to have their full roster, while they have all mercs?

You people have some very rosy colored glasses.  Take a deep breath, and try to put yourselves in their shoes.  I'd prefer to have a battle go to 8am than have all of us miss a late night battle, while all the jobless/west coasters are able to make it for the enemy team.

Fail logic = fail.  Every 1 -2 am battle we have had involving your alliance since strat started - 10 or more hospitallers and occitan have been able to show up - same with 9-10 am, the only time not was a 6 am one and you still had 5-6 from each of your clans.

In the midwest its only midnight, mounatin time only 11 pm, west coast 10 pm - 3/4ths of the U.S. players  can still show up - 8 am is 5,6, 7 am at these other time zones - you only get EU mercs to fill rosters instead of NA mercs and often you cant even do a rollcall because you can barely fill a roster unlike 1 to 2 am.  Why not have battles where both side can have a full roster instead of trying to fight with partial rosters filled with eu mercs - 8 am is far worse for everyone than 1 am even eastcoasters unless you work a nightshift because most people leave for work 7-8 am .   a lot easier to go to bed 1 hour late than skip work or show up late.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on January 25, 2013, 09:06:00 pm

Fact or Frisian? We report, you decide.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Dach on January 25, 2013, 09:28:40 pm

prime time for NA is 7pm to 2am East Coast or 6pm to 1am Central or 5pm to 12pm West Coast.

Just saying...  :wink:

You guys are just being selfish like if NA was only ET.

Fun fact for you, IT'S NOT.

Deal with it, you just look like douche now....  :|

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on January 25, 2013, 09:49:52 pm

I work a third shift job and this battle time munches asscocks even for me... as far as I can tell it's late enough that people with first shift jobs have to be at work, and people on the third shift don't want to be awake anymore because they will be staying up into the day light hours and fucking with their circadian rhythm. The night time setting Jean_Charest was running just doesn't seem very good, and a lot of people are running this night time without really thinking about it.

And Cracka the problem with your thought about late night battles is that NOT JUST FIMBULVETR MERCENARIES ARE AWAKE AT THAT TIME. Occitan and their allies also have players awake at that time naturally. However, NEITHER SIDE normally has any players in the game at 8:00 AM EST like this battle time.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: oprah_winfrey on January 25, 2013, 09:51:15 pm

Quote from: Dach on January 25, 2013, 09:28:40 pm

prime time for NA is 7pm to 2am East Coast or 6pm to 1am Central or 5pm to 12pm West Coast.

Just saying...  :wink:

You guys are just being selfish like if NA was only ET.

Fun fact for you, IT'S NOT.

Deal with it, you just look like douche now....  :|

When your entire clan is Eastern and work, then their prime time is whatever works for best for them.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Artyem on January 25, 2013, 10:11:17 pm

I apologize for the rudeness, I should probably mention I'm in the middle of a very painful surgery recovery and the meds they put me on tend to make me get loopy, and occasionally pissy.

So, no disrespect intended, just in pain and pissed at stupid night time settings.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Duster on January 25, 2013, 10:37:59 pm

Quote from: Artyem on January 25, 2013, 10:11:17 pm

I apologize for the rudeness, I should probably mention I'm in the middle of a very painful surgery recovery and the meds they put me on tend to make me get loopy, and occasionally pissy.

So, no disrespect intended, just in pain and pissed at stupid night time settings.

I'm glad you got rid of that third nipple, though.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Haramir on January 25, 2013, 10:43:28 pm

Its ok Artyem, its just that i don't understand why people are on our back just after we have been totally raped in a siege assault.

I think we can all agree that the current system is badly implement, it would be better to select a prime time instead of only a eight hour protection.  we don't like it either to fight early in the morning.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Thax on January 25, 2013, 10:45:20 pm

People seem to misunderstand that night settings are personal and don't require community approval. Constantly complaining about someone setting their own night to what they deem appropriate seems petty, childish, and tiresome.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Artyem on January 25, 2013, 10:54:18 pm

Quote from: Duster on January 25, 2013, 10:37:59 pm

I'm glad you got rid of that third nipple, though.

It will forever be missed :(

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Goretooth on January 25, 2013, 11:00:23 pm

Their night time settings deal with it. They are keeping it so stop crying and adjust to their settings or get better jobs.  :mrgreen:
Heaven forbid kesh misses one strat battle  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on January 25, 2013, 11:04:08 pm

Quote from: Thax on January 25, 2013, 10:45:20 pm

People seem to misunderstand that night settings are personal and don't require community approval. Constantly complaining about someone setting their own night to what they deem appropriate seems petty, childish, and tiresome.

Frisia ain't complainin' m8 we deal wit it u no we spit dat sick strat flow 24/7 420 420 420 bring it on assitan

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Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 25, 2013, 11:08:52 pm

Hey, can't hurt a guy for asking. I'm not going to make a stink about it if they hold steady with their current nighttime. I don't think I've made a stink with my previous posts either, I was very careful to be polite!

We won't seek to initiate battles that take place in your nighttime; at least we're aware of it now. Only one way to learn when you're as new as I am. Your night time is, of course, YOUR choice. I'm big on personal property rights, of course you're entitled to your own night-time settings. However, I think a considerable amount of community members won't be too happy to see more than one large-ass battle at 8am.

Do try to keep your tasty targets hidden until daytime. We won't make a specific effort to catch them during nerd hours, but if we see prey and we're a capable predator, we'll pounce on yer ass at the best time to do that strategically. We ain't following you until noon to get a good battle, we'll do what we have to.

I will try to standardize our night-times to 2am for 8 hours, with battles being able to take place at 10 and later.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Tunderbid on January 25, 2013, 11:11:00 pm

Can someone bring some croissant or a omelette du fromage?
I think we should eat breakfast before the battle  :D

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on January 25, 2013, 11:13:11 pm

My perception of the world was crushed when I learned that cheese omelette is actually omelette au fromage rather than omelette du fromage.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Dach on January 25, 2013, 11:34:28 pm

Quote from: Goretooth on January 25, 2013, 11:00:23 pm

Their night time settings deal with it.

Well even if they still want to be selfish...

I guarantee you that I see more Occitan playing at 1am than 8am... Just pointing out the obvious fail in their night time setting... :rolleyes: :P

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Goretooth on January 26, 2013, 12:09:40 am

Quote from: Dach on January 25, 2013, 11:34:28 pm

Well even if they still want to be selfish...
 their night time setting... :rolleyes: :P

:mrgreen: yes it is their setting and they aren't going to change it how selfish of them....

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Rhalzo on January 26, 2013, 12:26:41 am

Quote from: Daruvian on January 25, 2013, 11:13:11 pm

My perception of the world was crushed when I learned that cheese omelette is actually omelette au fromage rather than omelette du fromage.

How could Dexter's Lab have been wrong?!? Now the one French phrase I knew is out the window. What is this thread about again?

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Relit on January 26, 2013, 12:34:20 am

Quote from: SHinOCk on January 25, 2013, 09:18:47 am

blah blah blah only my clan matters fuck everybody else blah blah

I like how you act as if everybody else does not have jobs or families/obligations. Guess what... the vast majority of us are in the same boat. This kind of night time setting is bad for everybody and your pompous attitude does not help your case.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 26, 2013, 12:44:03 am

It would Be nice if we could change night time in HALF HOUR increments rather than hour increments.

My night time is 12-8 because 1 is to late for me, generally, And I don't trust anyone else in faction to deal with hiring, etc as they are all pretty transient when it comes to strat.

But if we could do 12:30, I'd set it to that because I can make that.

(also you have to remember, a decent strat battle lasts for 1 HOUR after battle start so while 1 EST might be niceish, it ends at 2-2:30 and that's ghastly.)

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Artyem on January 26, 2013, 12:44:51 am

Hey, Kaoklai (and Kirby), instead of -'ing everything I say, how about you nut up and voice your opinion, that way I can acknowledge you're a human being and not a saliva spewing goblin with a 2 ft stick lodged firmly up it's ass.


EDIT:

Also, I do apologize for disrespecting Occitan, but my unfavorable stance remains towards their selfish, immature, hypocritical view point of "We're from Quebec, we have jobs and we're better than you

Quote from: SHinOCk on January 25, 2013, 09:18:47 am

fat whiny bitches on welfare

because no one else in this community has kids, jobs, or school."

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: oprah_winfrey on January 26, 2013, 12:49:35 am

Quote from: Relit on January 26, 2013, 12:34:20 am

I like how you act as if everybody else does not have jobs or families/obligations. Guess what... the vast majority of us are in the same boat. This kind of night time setting is bad for everybody and your pompous attitude does not help your case.

Luckily, there is an easy work around your problems. Dont attack them after midnight est.

To everyone else that says they see occitan on late at night, habe you ever played at 6-8ish, like 1/2 the server has an lco banner.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 26, 2013, 12:50:03 am

You guys should be like me. Get a job that starts at 10 and goes until(latest) 8 unless you get second shift(1-10 or so) and not have classes start until 1! 8-)

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Fringe on January 26, 2013, 12:52:05 am

Quote from: Artyem on January 26, 2013, 12:44:51 am

Hey, Kaoklai, instead of -'ing everything I say, how about you nut up and voice your opinion, that way I can acknowledge you're a human being and not a saliva spewing goblin with a 2 ft stick lodged firmly up it's ass.

Take more pills o.o? Shoulda kept the third nipple, it will indeed be sorely missed.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 26, 2013, 01:05:45 am

Quote from: oprah_winfrey on January 26, 2013, 12:49:35 am

Luckily, there is an easy work around your problems. Dont attack them after midnight est.

To everyone else that says they see occitan on late at night, habe you ever played at 6-8ish, like 1/2 the server has an lco banner.

That gives them free reign to move as they please for 8 hours. At a fourth of the day, that's too considerable. If they had a 4 hour night time, maybe we could refrain from attacking them.

As I have said, it is (in my opinion, we'll see after this one) that 8am battles give us more of an advantage. I'm sorry that your own nighttime may hurt you, but I tried to get you to change it. Every 8am battle that occurs is going to make us look like the bad guy, but ultimately, I'm too much of a nerd to give you 8 whole hours to trot about the map when I want to attack.

If I'm moving somewhere and sleeping, then fuck me up, I'll probably be afk on strat because I sleep 16 hours at a time. I tell you, it isn't fun having 8 hours of sleep for 5 days and then crashing for another 16-20 on the weekend when exhaustion sets in. But I wake up (if I was able to catch an hour or two that night) feeling half-dead, grab some caffeinated booty-chatter beverage and a black n' mild, and do the day.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Keshian on January 26, 2013, 01:20:38 am

Quote from: oprah_winfrey on January 26, 2013, 12:49:35 am

Luckily, there is an easy work around your problems. Dont attack them after midnight est.

To everyone else that says they see occitan on late at night, habe you ever played at 6-8ish, like 1/2 the server has an lco banner.

You mean all 3 of 6 on the server.

And sandersson 8 am doesn't favor you guys - every battle forced around that time you will get 20 occitan and hospitallers to show up even though its  bad time for them - they put other strat nerds to shame - plus they can get all the UIF guys since occitan was DRZ vassals for 2 and a half strats.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: oprah_winfrey on January 26, 2013, 01:36:33 am

Quote from: Keshian on January 26, 2013, 01:20:38 am

You mean all 3 of 6 on the server.

I don't know how you could possibly answer this, you don't even play crpg.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Kirbyy on January 26, 2013, 02:05:11 am

Quote from: Artyem on January 26, 2013, 12:44:51 am

Hey, Kaoklai (and Kirby), instead of -'ing everything I say, how about you nut up and voice your opinion, that way I can acknowledge you're a human being and not a saliva spewing goblin with a 2 ft stick lodged firmly up it's ass.


EDIT:

Also, I do apologize for disrespecting Occitan, but my unfavorable stance remains towards their selfish, immature, hypocritical view point of "We're from Quebec, we have jobs and we're better than you because no one else in this community has kids, jobs, or school."

You know, in order for someone to gain their request from another, you don't act like a complete asshole and a hypocrite.  I find your name on most of my recent -'s.  Zip it, I don't like your standings on most things, sure you're a cool guy, but I also see you as an asshole.  There's my opinion, back to diplomacy. 

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Smoothrich on January 26, 2013, 02:09:07 am

breaking news:  whiny nerds ITT

you won't ever be able to be on the opposite side of an FCC or FCC vassal faction without them making threads before during and after every attack whining about something, usually full of slander, hyperbole, insults, and accusations of cheating exploiting and "being unfair"

seriously the most annoying fuckers to be friends or foe with, just shut up sometime please thanks

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 26, 2013, 02:12:09 am

Quote from: Smoothrich on January 26, 2013, 02:09:07 am

breaking news:  whiny nerds ITT

you won't ever be able to be on the opposite side of an FCC or FCC vassal faction or NH vassal faction without them making threads before during and after every attack whining about something, usually full of slander, hyperbole, insults, and accusations of cheating exploiting and "being unfair"

seriously the most annoying fuckers to be friends or foe with, just shut up sometime please thanks

fixed

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Artyem on January 26, 2013, 03:00:27 am

Quote from: Smoothrich on January 26, 2013, 02:09:07 am

breaking news:  whiny nerds ITT

you won't ever be able to be on the opposite side of an FCC or FCC vassal faction without them making threads before during and after every attack whining about something, usually full of slander, hyperbole, insults, and accusations of cheating exploiting and "being unfair"

seriously the most annoying fuckers to be friends or foe with, just shut up sometime please thanks

Can you just get muted again already?

Quote from: LookItsMountNBladeMan on January 26, 2013, 02:05:11 am

You know, in order for someone to gain their request from another, you don't act like a complete asshole and a hypocrite.  I find your name on most of my recent -'s.  Zip it, I don't like your standings on most things, sure you're a cool guy, but I also see you as an asshole.  There's my opinion, back to diplomacy. 

And that's what I want to see, if you have a poor opinion of me than please tell me upfront, if you disagree with me, great!  You're an alright guy, but by -'ing all of my posts, you do nothing but empower me and make me want to defend my stance more.

This thread is good for everyone, really lets us get heart to heart, like an intervention.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: arowaine on January 26, 2013, 03:50:15 am

About our nigth time yeah we set it that way Cause our clan is 1: mature 2: 18+ 3: most of us have faimily and kids 4: we go to school to learn stuff compare to some other people who stay home 24/24 and arent doing anything!5: some of us go to college/university so yeah we set our nigth time properly so if a figth happen at 11h59 easter time the worst case scenario would be a battle finishing around 1:45 am eastern time wish is pretty late already! thanks for the drama pretty funny to see you all raging about your nigth time at least we arent abusing it compare to some other faction.You guys just had to pick a look on the guys who you were attacking first, so blame yourself for not being smart enough to check nigth time before attacking.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Keshian on January 26, 2013, 04:23:17 am

Quote from: arowaine on January 26, 2013, 03:50:15 am

About our nigth time yeah we set it that way Cause our clan is 1: mature 2: 18+ 3: most of us have faimily and kids 4: we go to school to learn stuff compare to some other people who stay home 24/24 and arent doing anything!5: some of us go to college/university so yeah we set our nigth time properly so if a figth happen at 11h59 easter time the worst case scenario would be a battle finishing around 1:45 am eastern time wish is pretty late already! thanks for the drama pretty funny to see you all raging about your nigth time at least we arent abusing it compare to some other faction.You guys just had to pick a look on the guys who you were attacking first, so blame yourself for not being smart enough to check nigth time before attacking.

So of course you guys don't work though - because 8 am you can get 9 occ-chevs already signed up and willing to show up for it.  Most adult, over 18+ with kids and family need to go to work at that time.  Or you are just a bunch of nerds who can play 24/24 and aren't doing anything (aren't?? thats not even a word) so 8 am is great for you because your nerds outnumber ours.  I would much rather be sleeping on a saturday morning, but I don't want to see bad cav players do well just because they can ride around on champion destriers and plate armor bumping (can't hit broad side of barn with weapons) and not be shot to pieces by me.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Casimir on January 26, 2013, 04:28:41 am

Quote from: Keshian on January 26, 2013, 01:20:38 am

plus they can get all the UIF guys since occitan was DRZ vassals for 2 and a half strats.

This is so far the truth i am physically sickened.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: oprah_winfrey on January 26, 2013, 04:35:47 am

Quote from: Keshian on January 26, 2013, 04:23:17 am

(aren't?? thats not even a word)

Lol What? Its a contraction for are not. If anything you should be picking on 24/24

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Keshian on January 26, 2013, 05:03:00 am

Quote from: oprah_winfrey on January 26, 2013, 04:35:47 am

Lol What? Its a contraction for are not. If anything you should be picking on 24/24

Lol did no one ever learn that aren't is not a legitimate contraction (unless you are speaking redneck). Isn't is a legitimate contraction, aren't is a non-existent word used by people with bad english that like Jerry Springer.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 26, 2013, 05:11:13 am

Quote from: Keshian on January 26, 2013, 05:03:00 am

Lol did no one ever learn that aren't is not a legitimate contraction (unless you are speaking redneck). Isn't is a legitimate contraction, aren't is a non-existent word used by people with bad english that like Jerry Springer.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/aren%27t
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/aren%27t

Need more?

Yawn, almost forgot about the 8 EST battle, early bedtime to wake up early!

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Fringe on January 26, 2013, 05:12:57 am

Quote from: oprah_winfrey on January 26, 2013, 04:35:47 am

Lol What? Its a contraction for are not. If anything you should be picking on 24/24

Beat me to it.


On a diplomacy thread for the past few pages it has been nothing but shitty battle times. At first it almost turned into another discussion about how shit FCC and how shit HP is. Half of the thread was random posts that trailed off into trolling. I have yet to see something relatively intelligent. Shitty wars are shit. They also suck dick with laggy servers and constant bitch fights. I must admit Rice Eaters has something going with their little RP forum. I especially like the little maps that they have :)

Back to point, while the incessant bitching is tolerable, change the fucking subject. One page mostly consisted of what people considered to be prime-time for a battle. Get creative dammit. Insert RP, shitty or not.

Anyways, hope you guys enjoy the battle at 7:00 CST. With that said bitch about something else.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 26, 2013, 05:17:13 am

Quote from: arowaine on January 26, 2013, 03:50:15 am

About our nigth time yeah we set it that way Cause our clan is 1: mature 2: 18+ 3: most of us have faimily and kids 4: we go to school to learn stuff compare to some other people who stay home 24/24 and arent doing anything!5: some of us go to college/university so yeah we set our nigth time properly so if a figth happen at 11h59 easter time the worst case scenario would be a battle finishing around 1:45 am eastern time wish is pretty late already! thanks for the drama pretty funny to see you all raging about your nigth time at least we arent abusing it compare to some other faction.You guys just had to pick a look on the guys who you were attacking first, so blame yourself for not being smart enough to check nigth time before attacking.

Try to explain who you're talking to; I don't feel that anyone was whining other than Artyem (who apologized) and Kesh (who is obligated to, really). I keep saying that I feel we'll benefit more than you. Hell, I'm really trying to make it better for you guys and the community...not us. We're on up to 6am EST and later en masse. HP has a bad rep with many EU factions and you're associated with them. Seriously guys, if I wanted to profit from this, I would keep my mouth shut on the forums and attack at 12:01 repeatedly.

Please do stop accusing everyone besides yourselves of having no lives. It's rude. It is even more rude to speak on issues of respect and say these things. Arguments of "they started it" or "they deserve it" or "its true" are simply juvenile. We don't have a member below 18 (okay, so we do have some afks that were below 18 and one new member that's younger), I'm not aware of anyone that's not in university or employed in our clan; most take part in both as far as I know. However, I'm not one to give even a quarter of a fuck about someone's IRL. It's the interbutts. Lowlife "welfare" scum are equal to anyone else. I'm good friends with my clanmates, and I'd tell you guys exactly what the fuck they do, but that's a bit too much irl information.

And by the way, I don't know how it is in other places, but folks on welfare are generally NOT playing video games. There are a few 19-20 year old kids I know that went from barely graduating highschool to playing games and getting stoned and shit all day....and they're not in my clan. I also don't speak to them because they're shitty people.

Title: Re: The facts and Frisia's current position
Post by: Smoothrich on January 26, 2013, 06:27:17 am

Quote from: Keshian on January 26, 2013, 05:03:00 am

Lol did no one ever learn that aren't is not a legitimate contraction (unless you are speaking redneck). Isn't is a legitimate contraction, aren't is a non-existent word used by people with bad english that like Jerry Springer.

You are thinking of "ain't"  i.e. "Ain't that Kesh a fucking loon?"  That is merely a colloquialism though, and not "redneck." 

Perhaps you are thinking of "amn't" as being the proper contraction of "am not", but that is an archaic inscrutable use of language.  Aren't has been established as serving both Am Not and Are Not.

Unless you think that "Are not" is invalid as a contraction? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aren't_We_All%3F   English play Aren't We All, clearly a work of American rednecks circa 1922.