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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: zagibu on October 18, 2012, 06:59:55 pm

Title: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: zagibu on October 18, 2012, 06:59:55 pm
Note: Despite the devs at first having encouraged the development of this pack, there has been no new information from their side in months, which probably means this won't be implemented in the near future. I am sorry to have risen false hope in some people.

Using the tableaus technique also used for heraldic armors, it's possible to dynamically colorize most armors with a suitable area using the backside color of the player's chosen banner. With this, if your armor is out of fashion, simply choose a new banner with the color that is currently en vogue, and you can show yourself again in the feasting hall.

Below are some examples. They are using banners from native, namely:

- red with black lion
- yellow with black eagle
- green with yellow boars
- blue with yellow lilies
- white and blue checker pattern with red lion
- black and white vertical sawline

These are only examples. The color of your own armor will depend on your banner's scripted backside color.

I have already talked to chadz on IRC and chances seem good that some or all of the armors will be integrated into cRPG.

Tabard:
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Gambeson:
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Brigandine:
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Coat of plates:
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Vaegir elite armor:
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Lamellar vest:
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Scale armor:
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Churburg cuirass:
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Gilded Churburg cuirass:
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Corrazina armor:
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Mail shirt:
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Byrnie:
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Sarranid Elite Armor:
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Kaftan:
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Padded Cloth:
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Transitional armor:
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Surcoat over Mail with Hood:
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Mail with long surcoat:
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Native Aketon:
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Linen tunic:
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Leather vest:
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Padded Leather:
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Cuir Bouilli:
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Haubergeon:
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Clibanarius Armor:
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Leather Armor:
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Padded Jack:
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Heavy Jawshan:
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Katafraktoi Armor:
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Druzhina Mail Shirt:
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Rus Lamellar Cuirass:
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Rus Scale Armor:
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Black and White Slashed Armor:
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Druzhina Lamellar Armor:
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Peltastos Armor:
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Varangopoulos Armor:
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Sipahi jawshan:
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Palace Guard Armor:
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Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Firebrand on October 18, 2012, 07:03:01 pm
YES
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Miwiw on October 18, 2012, 07:03:16 pm
hm, aint looking bad. Can you also do those in a nice blue (like dark blue as the Nordmen use their banner)? That is not a bad idea, the more armors in many colours the better.

You know it would also be amazing if there was a way to trade the same item's colours. Example, trading Blue Coat of Plates +3 (+0,+1,+2) for Green Coat of Plates for example (npc-wise, for a little gold fee, Im not talking about trading an armor for another item).
What I always missed were more colours. When I was in HRE, I missed some heavier gear in yellow for example. :)

e: good idea
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Lichen on October 18, 2012, 07:04:36 pm
WOW, talk about an efficient and no performance cost way to add more variety. Well done!
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Firebrand on October 18, 2012, 07:04:53 pm
Quote from: Miwiw99 on October 18, 2012, 07:03:16 pm
You know it would also be amazing if there was a way to trade the same item's colours. Example, trading Blue Coat of Plates +3 (+0,+1,+2) for Green Coat of Plates for example (npc-wise, for a little gold fee, Im not talking about trading an armor for another item).
NO
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 18, 2012, 07:22:52 pm
Quote from: Miwiw99 on October 18, 2012, 07:03:16 pm
hm, aint looking bad. Can you also do those in a nice blue (like dark blue as the Nordmen use their banner)? That is not a bad idea, the more armors in many colours the better.

You know it would also be amazing if there was a way to trade the same item's colours. Example, trading Blue Coat of Plates +3 (+0,+1,+2) for Green Coat of Plates for example (npc-wise, for a little gold fee, Im not talking about trading an armor for another item).
What I always missed were more colours. When I was in HRE, I missed some heavier gear in yellow for example. :)

The armor uses the background color of your current banner, so there is only 1 armor, called "Colored Tabard". The yellow one in the screenshot uses the native HRE banner. However, the color will not exactly be the one of the banner, because a) it uses the BACK_COLOR of the banner, which is sometimes different than the banner's background color (confusing, I know), and b) the blending process can produce slightly different results, because it's hard to make it look good for both dark and light colors.

The reason why I didn't make it heraldic, btw, is because if you add the heraldic symbol, it also adds another layer of the banner background color, which produces visible seams in the colored area. Also, there are many armors that could be colorized using this technique, but that don't have an appropriate area to display the symbol.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Miwiw on October 18, 2012, 07:25:05 pm
Ah, I missed the two words "banner background".  :oops:
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Casimir on October 18, 2012, 07:32:53 pm
Nice work man
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on October 18, 2012, 07:50:55 pm
ADD THEM!
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 18, 2012, 09:05:15 pm
Updated OP with gambeson. I also had an idea how heraldics could still work, but it would probably require a change of the banners. Might look into it later.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Miwiw on October 18, 2012, 09:07:45 pm
Nice work! What banner you used for the blue one? It looks amazing.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 18, 2012, 09:10:08 pm
The native pecores banner, i.e. the four yellow fleur de lys on blue.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Haboe on October 18, 2012, 11:58:12 pm
How would this work with custom banners? For example those that don't have 1 background color?
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Casimir on October 19, 2012, 12:00:10 am
With the ladder custom banners you select the colour don't you?
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zottlmarsch on October 19, 2012, 12:20:16 am
awesome, good job  :)
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 19, 2012, 12:28:01 am
Quote from: Haboe on October 18, 2012, 11:58:12 pm
How would this work with custom banners? For example those that don't have 1 background color?

This is the confusing part. It's not about the actual background of the banner, but the back color of the banner. This is one color that has to be specified when creating the banner. If we're talking about a heraldic mail armor, it's the color that is on the back of the armor. For some banners, this is completely different than the background color of the banner. E.g. the native khergit banner has a purple background, but the color on the back of the armor is black. So your tabard would be black, if you used the native khergit banner.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Teeth on October 19, 2012, 12:43:05 am
But, but, I would not be able to escape the ugly Byzantium red.  :cry:
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Viriathus on October 19, 2012, 12:45:58 am
I hope i wont see many hot pink tunics out there, or a light cyan gambson.

Make sure you add this too the coat of plates armor.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 19, 2012, 01:27:16 am
Updated OP with brigandine. Coat of plates is next.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zottlmarsch on October 19, 2012, 01:44:08 am
nice brigandines! green and black especially.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Knitler on October 19, 2012, 01:45:04 am
Quote from: zottlmarsch on October 19, 2012, 01:44:08 am
nice brigandines!

the yellow is a bit too harsh, or atleast all are abit too bright - but good one ;)
Yellow coat of plates .... nice thingy.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Dalfador on October 19, 2012, 02:07:48 am
imo they need to be desaturated just a little bit, otherwise it looks AWESOME!
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Firebrand on October 19, 2012, 02:18:06 am
Quote from: Dalfador on October 19, 2012, 02:07:48 am
imo they need to be desaturated just a little bit, otherwise it looks AWESOME!
This
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 19, 2012, 03:20:59 am
Better now?

By the way, the idea I had for the heraldics without seams worked:

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I'm just using a transparent banner that is only opaque around the heraldic symbol, and fades out to completely transparent quickly towards the edges. This leads to problems whenever the banner is displayed in non-blended mode, however, as you can see in the screenshot of the overland map. I have no idea where else this problem could appear. A quick test on shields seemed to be fine.

I've also uploaded screenshots of the coat of plates and vaegir elite armor.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Sagar on October 19, 2012, 08:54:27 am
Nice. Remember this from M&B Persistent mod.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 19, 2012, 09:15:03 am
Lamellar vest is up.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Winterly on October 19, 2012, 09:20:30 am
Lamellar is so orgasmic...crayon Rangers ROLL OUT!
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Moncho on October 19, 2012, 09:20:51 am
This is great, hope it gets into the mod at some point other than December 2010 though
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 19, 2012, 09:22:16 am
Yeah, those pastel colors do not fit so well with lamellar vest. But you can always choose a banner with a more suitable background, some brown tones or cream or what have you.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: baybars on October 19, 2012, 10:34:36 am
Upvoted for great justice.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 19, 2012, 11:09:57 am
Added scale armor.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Firebrand on October 19, 2012, 11:12:31 am
Quote from: zagibu on October 19, 2012, 11:09:57 am
Added scale armor.
Great job man! But wonder if devs check this thread! :cry:
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: F i n on October 19, 2012, 12:10:27 pm
They really should. Way to go mate.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Elmokki on October 19, 2012, 12:30:18 pm
This is potentially pretty great
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Felix_Iron on October 19, 2012, 12:32:10 pm
YES. It is awsome  :D
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Teeth on October 19, 2012, 12:38:27 pm
Single best thing ever. I am convinced. No more staring desperately at the market at that one armour you want, which happens to be on there 12 times in the colour you do not want and not once with the colour you do want.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zottlmarsch on October 19, 2012, 12:40:20 pm
Can't wait to see the Corrazinas and Churburgs  :wink:
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Felix_Iron on October 19, 2012, 12:43:42 pm
Quote from: Felix_Iron on October 19, 2012, 12:32:10 pm
YES. It is awsome  :D
and pls add this as colored
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and someone of this as heraldic
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Pls, PLs, PLS!  :D
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Knitler on October 19, 2012, 01:05:07 pm
Quote from: zottlmarsch on October 19, 2012, 12:40:20 pm
Can't wait to see the Corrazinas and Churburgs  :wink:

corrazina will be awesome :-)
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Callan on October 19, 2012, 02:08:32 pm
ADD THEM NOU!
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 19, 2012, 06:48:39 pm
Churburg up now. It's really hard to get a consistent saturation across all armors, because the starting colors lead to very different blending masks. Will probably have to fiddle with them a bit more. Should be no problem, since I saved all textures in .xcf format with layer masks and everything.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Anuran on October 19, 2012, 07:23:57 pm
A heraldic tabard would be either nice :D
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Lactating Vegetables on October 19, 2012, 07:26:46 pm
Looks good, wish it was already in game
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: sF_Guardian on October 19, 2012, 09:20:10 pm
Pls add it for ugly Kuyaks so we have at least a bit diversity for all the 2H and Pole spergs :D
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Lactating Vegetables on October 19, 2012, 10:24:35 pm
Don't, that way they will dispise their bad choice and add more diversity, then all we need is 2h nerfing to glances and the 2h kuyak spam will be clensed  :twisted:
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 19, 2012, 10:51:58 pm
There isn't much color that could be used on kuyaks. They are mostly metal, fur or leather.

Corrazina uploaded. Probably still too flashy for most of you. I somehow like flashier colors better in M&B. If I want grit, I can play one of the tenthousand other games that caters to that style. It's up for discussion, though, and can easily be changed. It will probably need a lot of tweaking, still, anyway, because there might be colors that don't work at all with the current set up (I wonder what white will look like).

[EDIT]
White seems to be okay. Looks a bit weird on most armors, but on some, it even works quite well:
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Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Lactating Vegetables on October 19, 2012, 11:24:49 pm
What about the brigadean over gambison?

That would be a explosion of colour :D
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Lange on October 19, 2012, 11:32:43 pm
The new Brigantines... yes please!  :D
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Firebrand on October 20, 2012, 12:31:39 am
I want them now!

Anyway


NO ONE CARES!
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 20, 2012, 12:32:03 am
Yeah, it's planned, but at the moment I don't feel like masking all those little rivets.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Knitler on October 20, 2012, 12:17:23 pm
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This would also deserve recolor, i mean there are palaces with a red banner ... ^^
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 20, 2012, 03:53:54 pm
Agreed, but like the brigandine, it's a bitch to mask, due to those little pattern thingies on it. I might do it eventually.

Uploaded the gay pride knights, I mean colored surcoat over mail, in OP. Here is a heraldic version:

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Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Adamar on October 20, 2012, 04:32:02 pm
Lol, who voted no? chadz?
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zottlmarsch on October 20, 2012, 04:38:07 pm
Quote from: Adamar on October 20, 2012, 04:32:02 pm
Lol, who voted no? chadz?

most likely some weaboo prick  :evil:
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: HarunYahya on October 20, 2012, 05:06:13 pm
Can't even imagine how would it be with Sarranid Mail Shirt
Green and black version would be awesome .
I dislike the orange color from start, a big + from me.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Christo on October 20, 2012, 06:26:48 pm
Amazing.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Iymore on October 20, 2012, 06:46:14 pm
What if i have +3 black lamellar and i want red one?
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on October 20, 2012, 06:56:03 pm
Traditional way is to sell it and buy a red one or buy the loompoints for one.

But yeah. This is a really cool idea as long as I don't loose my black lamellar and white lamellar. I don't want to be limited to one coloured lamellar due to my banner.

This allows for a ton of customization though.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Felix_Iron on October 20, 2012, 07:00:26 pm
Quote from: Iymore on October 20, 2012, 06:46:14 pm
What if i have +3 black lamellar and i want red one?
You may make a color of your banner back side as you like, so...
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on October 20, 2012, 07:12:46 pm
Quote from: Felix_Iron on October 20, 2012, 07:00:26 pm
You may make a color of your banner back side as you like, so...
I assumed he meant that he has a black lamellar vest, but he'd like to have a vest that changes colours(his being red).
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 20, 2012, 07:21:34 pm
Quote from: koyama on October 20, 2012, 05:06:13 pm
Can't even imagine how would it be with Sarranid Mail Shirt
Green and black version would be awesome .

I will give it a try, but my experiments with cavalry robe, which also has a pattern on the cloth, were disappointing. The straightforward way I use for the other armors didn't work.

Quote from: Ninja_Khorin on October 20, 2012, 06:56:03 pm
Traditional way is to sell it and buy a red one or buy the loompoints for one.

But yeah. This is a really cool idea as long as I don't loose my black lamellar and white lamellar. I don't want to be limited to one coloured lamellar due to my banner.

This allows for a ton of customization though.

Yep, I guess there would be a new item "Colored Lamellar Vest", and if you wanted +3 of that, you'd have to start looming it again. I don't think the fixed color armors should be removed, though, because, as Khorin said, there might be situations when you don't want the same color as your banner back color.

Uploaded mail shirt and byrnie.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Iymore on October 20, 2012, 07:24:16 pm
So we can choose any colour any time with that "Colored Lamellar Vest" right?
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 20, 2012, 07:35:44 pm
Well, you are limited to the back colors of the available banners, but since it's possible to create a custom banner and specify the back color, you can indeed choose any color you want.

These are the back colors from native:
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      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 0, 0xFF8f4531),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 1, 0xFFd9d7d1),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 2, 0xFF373736),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 3, 0xFFa48b28),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 4, 0xFF497735),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 5, 0xFF82362d),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 6, 0xFF793329),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 7, 0xFF262521),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 8, 0xFFd9dad1),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 9, 0xFF524563),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 10, 0xFF91312c),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 11, 0xFFafa231),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 12, 0xFF706d3c),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 13, 0xFFd6d3ce),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 14, 0xFF521c08),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 15, 0xFF394584),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 16, 0xFF42662e),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 17, 0xFFdfded6),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 18, 0xFF292724),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 19, 0xFF58611b),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 20, 0xFF313a67),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 21, 0xFF9c924a),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 22, 0xFF998b39),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 23, 0xFF365168),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 24, 0xFFd6d3ce),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 25, 0xFF94a642),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 26, 0xFF944131),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 27, 0xFF893b34),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 28, 0xFF425510),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 29, 0xFF94452e),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 30, 0xFF475a94),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 31, 0xFFd1b231),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 32, 0xFFe1e2df),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 33, 0xFF997c1e),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 34, 0xFFc6b74d),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 35, 0xFFad9a18),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 36, 0xFF212421),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 37, 0xFF8c2021),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 38, 0xFF4d7136),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 39, 0xFF395d84),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 40, 0xFF527539),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 41, 0xFF9c3c39),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 42, 0xFF42518c),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 43, 0xFFa46a2c),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 44, 0xFF9f5141),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 45, 0xFF2c6189),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 46, 0xFF556421),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 47, 0xFF9d621e),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 48, 0xFFdeded6),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 49, 0xFF6e4891),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 50, 0xFF865a29),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 51, 0xFFdedfd9),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 52, 0xFF524273),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 53, 0xFF8c3821),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 54, 0xFFd1cec6),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 55, 0xFF313031),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 56, 0xFF47620d),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 57, 0xFF6b4139),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 58, 0xFFd6d7d6),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 59, 0xFF2e2f2c),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 60, 0xFF604283),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 61, 0xFF395584),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 62, 0xFF313031),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 63, 0xFF7e3f2e),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 64, 0xFF343434),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 65, 0xFF3c496b),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 66, 0xFFd9d8d1),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 67, 0xFF99823c),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 68, 0xFF9f822e),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 69, 0xFF393839),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 70, 0xFFa54931),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 71, 0xFFdfdcd6),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 72, 0xFF9f4a36),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 73, 0xFF8c7521),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 74, 0xFF9f4631),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 75, 0xFF793324),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 76, 0xFF395076),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 77, 0xFF2c2b2c),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 78, 0xFF657121),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 79, 0xFF7e3121),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 80, 0xFF76512e),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 81, 0xFFe7e3de),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 82, 0xFF947921),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 83, 0xFF4d7b7c),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 84, 0xFF343331),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 85, 0xFFa74d36),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 86, 0xFFe7e3de),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 87, 0xFFd6d8ce),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 88, 0xFF3e4d67),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 89, 0xFF9f842e),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 90, 0xFF4d6994),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 91, 0xFF4a6118),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 92, 0xFF943c29),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 93, 0xFF394479),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 94, 0xFF343331),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 95, 0xFF3f4d5d),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 96, 0xFF4a6489),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 97, 0xFF313031),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 98, 0xFFd6d7ce),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 99, 0xFFc69e00),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 100, 0xFF638e52),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 101, 0xFFdcdbd3),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 102, 0xFFdbdcd3),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 103, 0xFF843831),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 104, 0xFFcecfc6),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 105, 0xFFc39d31),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 106, 0xFFcbb670),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 107, 0xFF394a18),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 108, 0xFF372708),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 109, 0xFF9a6810),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 110, 0xFFb27910),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 111, 0xFF8c8621),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 112, 0xFF975a03),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 113, 0xFF2c2924),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 114, 0xFFaa962c),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 115, 0xFFa2822e),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 116, 0xFF7b8a8c),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 117, 0xFF3c0908),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 118, 0xFFFF00FF),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 119, 0xFF671e14),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 120, 0xFF103042),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 121, 0xFF4a4500),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 122, 0xFF703324),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 123, 0xFF24293c),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 124, 0xFF5d6966),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 125, 0xFFbd9631),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 126, 0xFFc6b26b),
  (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 127, 0xFF394918),

      #Default banners
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 128, 0xFF212221),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 129, 0xFF212221),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 130, 0xFF2E3B10),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 131, 0xFF425D7B),
      (troop_set_slot, "trp_banner_background_color_array", 132, 0xFF394608),

The last six digits are red, green, blue in hexadecimal, if you wanna try some in a paint program.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: HarunYahya on October 20, 2012, 07:43:07 pm
Quote from: zagibu on October 20, 2012, 07:21:34 pm
I will give it a try, but my experiments with cavalry robe, which also has a pattern on the cloth, were disappointing. The straightforward way I use for the other armors didn't work.
Thanks man , Allah will help you for making good looking mujahideens for him  :lol:
Can i see how fail it was on cavalry robe ?

I hope Devs will care to look at this thread and implement it , because this is a great idea !
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 20, 2012, 08:12:46 pm
Quote from: koyama on October 20, 2012, 07:43:07 pm
Thanks man , Allah will help you for making good looking mujahideens for him  :lol:
Can i see how fail it was on cavalry robe ?

I hope Devs will care to look at this thread and implement it , because this is a great idea !

Here it is:
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The main problem with it is that the cloth itself doesn't have much structure besides the pattern, which produces a rather dull blending result. There are several things I could try, though, e.g. masking the pattern, so that it stays at a fixed color and has better contrast, or I could try to paint some structure into the cloth myself. Both things are quite a bit of work, and I will tackle them only after I've done the easy things.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 20, 2012, 10:06:58 pm
Uploaded Sarranid Elite Armor.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Moncho on October 20, 2012, 10:14:12 pm
Would there be any way to get those in game without a patch?
I fell in love with the byrnie. (all the others are great, but I just love the byrnie especially)
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 20, 2012, 10:20:29 pm
Unfortunately not, because the scripts have to be modified. But if it's a special color you like, just open the Mount&Blade Warband\Textures\byrnie_a.dds in Paint.NET, select the colored areas with the lasso tool, then go to Adjustments->Hue/Saturation and play around with the sliders until you get the color you want, then overwrite it.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: HarunYahya on October 20, 2012, 11:59:52 pm
Quote from: zagibu on October 20, 2012, 08:12:46 pm
Here it is:
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The main problem with it is that the cloth itself doesn't have much structure besides the pattern, which produces a rather dull blending result. There are several things I could try, though, e.g. masking the pattern, so that it stays at a fixed color and has better contrast, or I could try to paint some structure into the cloth myself. Both things are quite a bit of work, and I will tackle them only after I've done the easy things.
Hmmmm i c , yeah it looks shit derp.
Anyway im sure black sarranid mail shirt would be win.
I hope flowers and other patterns will remain being red tho :D
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 21, 2012, 10:08:25 pm
Uploaded Kaftan.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Knitler on October 21, 2012, 11:35:19 pm
Quote from: zagibu on October 21, 2012, 10:08:25 pm
Uploaded Kaftan.

good one, like the white one
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo on October 22, 2012, 05:27:54 am
Those Byrnie's look great! I really like these because they could help alot of people matching their clan's colors/themes, I don't see why they shouldn't be added.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Teeth on October 22, 2012, 10:38:45 am
Quote from: Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo on October 22, 2012, 05:27:54 am
Those Byrnie's look great! I really like these because they could help alot of people matching their clan's colors/themes, I don't see why they shouldn't be added.
Nobody does, now all that is left to do is bump this thread or whine on IRC for about 4 more months.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 22, 2012, 12:15:56 pm
Added padded cloth.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 22, 2012, 04:03:42 pm
I have spoken to chadz today in IRC, and chances seem to be good that it will be included.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Miwiw on October 22, 2012, 05:30:34 pm
Quote from: zagibu on October 22, 2012, 04:03:42 pm
I have spoken to chadz today in IRC, and chances seem to be good that it will be included.

I'm starting to save up loompoints now. :D
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Casimir on October 22, 2012, 05:44:15 pm
Don't trust anything that donkey says!
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Dezilagel on October 22, 2012, 05:45:50 pm
fap.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Firebrand on October 22, 2012, 05:47:32 pm
Why dont you release it like mod? And let ppl install it (who want)! Or we will wait till eternity... :(
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Phew on October 22, 2012, 06:03:06 pm
This would only be bad for people that want a different color than their banner background on their armor. These people are probably rare.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Miwiw on October 22, 2012, 06:08:26 pm
Armors shouldnt be replaced tho.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 22, 2012, 06:09:31 pm
Quote from: Firebrand on October 22, 2012, 05:47:32 pm
Why dont you release it like mod? And let ppl install it (who want)! Or we will wait till eternity... :(

Hmmm, maybe I could release modified item_kinds1.txt, tableau_materials.txt and meshes.txt along with the textures. Might work. Will have to try tomorrow. Maybe chadz' anti-cheat detection will go havoc, though.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Firebrand on October 22, 2012, 06:13:28 pm
Quote from: zagibu on October 22, 2012, 06:09:31 pm
Hmmm, maybe I could release modified item_kinds1.txt, tableau_materials.txt and meshes.txt along with the textures. Might work. Will have to try tomorrow. Maybe chadz' anti-cheat detection will go havoc, though.
If it will work i will install your mod, i love variety and hate clones! :)
Btw. Some default armor colors are soooo dull, your mod fixes it ...

Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: HarunYahya on October 22, 2012, 08:29:02 pm
This thread is full of WIN.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Uumdi on October 22, 2012, 08:35:49 pm
Holy shit, my friend, this is revolutionary
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Inglorious on October 22, 2012, 08:43:30 pm
You are awesome! Keep up the amazing work!


I hope this is implemented
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zottlmarsch on October 22, 2012, 09:02:24 pm
sooo awesome dude, you are doing a fine job!
just out of interest, is this possible with certain head armors or certain gloves (e.g wisby gauntlets) too?

ps. the 5 idiots who voted no should be burnt at the stake  :evil:  :twisted:  :lol:
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Miwiw on October 22, 2012, 09:08:06 pm
Quote from: zottlmarsch on October 22, 2012, 09:02:24 pm
just out of interest, is this possible with certain head armors or certain gloves (e.g wisby gauntlets) too?

Like?

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Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zottlmarsch on October 22, 2012, 09:17:36 pm
yea and maybe things like

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but its not so important, the armors are more than enough  :D
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on October 22, 2012, 10:58:50 pm
Padded Armor.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: HarunYahya on October 22, 2012, 11:01:10 pm
You guys are aware that if this gets implemented there will be lots of people wearing medieval armors colored as:
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Aswell?

I hope they'll be instapermaban in EU .
NA will probably like the idea to be a rainbowmy old friend.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Sable Keech on October 22, 2012, 11:14:34 pm
I like the black scale mail.  :D
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Moncho on October 22, 2012, 11:36:54 pm
Quote from: koyama on October 22, 2012, 11:01:10 pm
You guys are aware that if this gets implemented there will be lots of people wearing medieval armors colored as:
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Aswell?

I hope they'll be instapermaban in EU .
NA will probably like the idea to be a rainbowmy old friend.
Do you realise that the colour will be taken from the back colour of the banner and that it will be a solid one? (It might be fucsia or bright orange though)
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 23, 2012, 01:18:41 pm
Added transitional armor. Updates will slow down now, because I have to do some military service the next 4 weeks. I'll try to get something done at the weekends.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: HarunYahya on October 23, 2012, 02:12:56 pm
Quote from: Moncho on October 22, 2012, 11:36:54 pm
Do you realise that the colour will be taken from the back colour of the banner and that it will be a solid one? (It might be fucsia or bright orange though)
It can be any color.
Just few examples of hex color codes:
It does not have to be "solid one" . you can put any color as banner back color.
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http://www.2createawebsite.com/build/hex-colors.html


I hope this will clean your illitracy.

Quote from: zagibu on October 23, 2012, 01:18:41 pm
Added transitional armor. Updates will slow down now, because I have to do some military service the next 4 weeks. I'll try to get something done at the weekends.
Hope you come back with 1 piece   :twisted: gl and "have fun" .
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Narestel on October 23, 2012, 07:44:30 pm
+1
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 23, 2012, 07:46:26 pm
He probably meant that it will be only 1 color on the armor, not a rainbow of colors like in your example. But yeah, cyan or magenta would be a problem, I guess.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Moncho on October 23, 2012, 07:46:40 pm
Quote from: koyama on October 23, 2012, 02:12:56 pm
It can be any color.
Just few examples of hex color codes:
It does not have to be "solid one" . you can put any color as banner back color.
http://www.2createawebsite.com/build/hex-colors.html
I hope this will clean your illitracy.

That is exactly what I meant, I was just pointing that gradients would not be possible.
Plus, this sort of thing is being done from long ago (remember the bright pink my old friends banner?), and this would not affect it that much...
Also, it is illiteracy.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Teeth on October 23, 2012, 07:53:48 pm
Quote from: zagibu on October 23, 2012, 07:46:26 pm
He probably meant that it will be only 1 color on the armor, not a rainbow of colors like in your example. But yeah, cyan or magenta would be a problem, I guess.
Well, they are a similar problem now because they exist already as the back of heraldic armors. There hasn't been a lot of uproar about that. We have some funky coloured banners as well which they wear proudly on their heraldics, so I do not see how this would prove a bigger problem.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: chadz on October 23, 2012, 07:54:34 pm
we could also limit certain colors serverside if it's gonna be a problem.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Miwiw on October 23, 2012, 07:55:39 pm
But I want a pinkish Nordmen banner!  :|
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Tayzzer on October 23, 2012, 08:22:45 pm
This addition defiantly needs to be seriously considered. I love the idea of the clan unity it could bring, like as a member of the FCC which has a yellow flag there is only one or two armors which could match our banner that are not heraldic.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Iymore on October 23, 2012, 08:55:54 pm
Add an option what colour you want to buy or something?
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Teeth on October 23, 2012, 09:09:42 pm
Quote from: Iymore on October 23, 2012, 08:55:54 pm
Add an option what colour you want to buy or something?
Nope, just a colour that dynamically changes based on the back colour of the banner you have. If I understand correctly. Which would be red in my case, but that black Brigandine looks way more awesome.  :cry:
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Kansuke on October 23, 2012, 09:10:03 pm
Please no fluo color like the current SoA background, I feel like playing Halo when I'm on siege and SoA too.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Inglorious on October 23, 2012, 09:31:30 pm
I love the idea of using the BG colors for heraldic items (Just like the Final boss/Warham mod up-loader) For example: the great helm being colored yellow due to the FCC BG color is pretty neat-o when worn with plate.

Good luck with your military service, & hope you can keep the updates coming. Maybe even a mod of your own?  :wink:
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Knitler on October 23, 2012, 10:05:29 pm
Quote from: Kansuke on October 23, 2012, 09:10:03 pm
Please no fluo color like the current SoA background, I feel like playing Halo when I'm on siege and SoA too.

They just have to change it, its not that difficult ....
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on October 24, 2012, 02:50:54 pm
I came, and I'm proud.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Miwiw on October 24, 2012, 05:39:14 pm
Can you also check this armor, possible with it?  :D

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Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Largg on October 24, 2012, 05:58:14 pm
I really like these, I hope most of them make it to the patch. Since you're at it maybe you could also do a few helmets? There's plenty of hats that have multiple different items just for the different colors. I think most of the players will want to pick one to match their other equipment any way. With this type of heraldic bg color type the choice would be a lot easier and I think better in most cases. Also some excess items could be then removed making more room for other items and/or reducing the stress.

Just some helmets that could fit:

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Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: HarunYahya on October 24, 2012, 06:20:23 pm
Quote from: Moncho on October 23, 2012, 07:46:40 pm
I was just pointing that gradients would not be possible.
My fucking god...
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Quote from: Moncho on October 23, 2012, 07:46:40 pm
Plus, this sort of thing is being done from long ago (remember the bright pink my old friends banner?), and this would not affect it that much...
Yeap i remember them and their banner and i think they were fucking up the game's atmosphere .
Quote from: chadz on October 23, 2012, 07:54:34 pm
we could also limit certain colors serverside if it's gonna be a problem.
That sir , would be perfect.
Quote from: Kansuke on October 23, 2012, 09:10:03 pm
Please no fluo color like the current SoA background, I feel like playing Halo when I'm on siege and SoA too.
Couldn't agree more they are like these:
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Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Firebrand on October 24, 2012, 06:37:10 pm
Let ppl use colors they like! :evil: No censur! :twisted:
Btw i wonder if noone still didn't made porno banner(or anime banner) and didn't ran around maps to troll people. But they could! So lets leave all color palitre! :D
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Casimir on October 24, 2012, 06:41:23 pm
Actually there is already a censoring of banners and inappropriate or unfitting banners are removed by the admin/dev team.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 24, 2012, 07:46:40 pm
Quote from: Miwiw99 on October 24, 2012, 05:39:14 pm
Can you also check this armor, possible with it?  :D

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I will give it a try. However, the texture is only 512x512 px, so it will be hard to mask this pixel porridge.
I've already thought about helmets, and agree that it should work great for some. And maybe even Wisby gauntlets could be done.

Posting this out of a jeep while my fellow soldiers sleep next seat.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Youhou on October 25, 2012, 09:39:21 pm
This is very nice. More variety and finally matching armor colors
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Dalfador on October 27, 2012, 08:17:15 pm
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Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 28, 2012, 02:46:59 am
Added the other mail with surcoat.

I've also tried to colorize the native heraldic mails. Did you know that their textures are VERY sloppily done? They are a complete mess. There is no underlying cloth structure at all, just a mess of red and black. I'll probably have to copy some cloth structure over from other armors. If I can get that done, it would also make the heraldic version look much better.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 28, 2012, 01:33:15 pm
More bad news: I can't get Narf's brigandine to work, because it is a multi-part model. The colorization for the torso works as usual, but then it applies this torso tableau also for the arms and legs :evil:. Why did Narf have to make this model multipart, WHY?
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 28, 2012, 03:11:58 pm
Added native aketon.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Weewum on October 28, 2012, 03:31:03 pm
Almost to 100 +, good job on the armors, hope they get added.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on October 28, 2012, 04:54:50 pm
Added linen tunic. 2 hours until I have to put on the camouflage again :(.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Dach on October 28, 2012, 09:28:49 pm
Can you try with the steppe armor! plz plz :)
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Ohayashi on October 30, 2012, 02:43:20 am
Top notch stuff here.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Gawin on October 30, 2012, 03:55:31 am
wooh im the 100th like!
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Lichen on November 03, 2012, 10:02:31 pm
Another excellent benefit of this: Increase game performance by eliminating redundant textures.

textures:                  before -----  after

tunic                           5                 1
gamebeson                3                 1
lamellar vest               3                 1
brigadine+aketon       3                 1
tunic over mail            5                 1
surcoat over mail        5                 1
brigadine over mail     3                  1
coat of plates             4                  1
corrazina                    3                  1
transitional armor       4                  1
churburg cuirass         3                  1

textures total:            41                 11
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Jarlek on November 04, 2012, 01:09:38 am
I can't wait to see more goddamn colour on the battlefield :D
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Snow Gibbon on November 04, 2012, 11:13:35 am
Perhaps we could get this for shields as well? I've always wanted a plain green round shield since day one.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on November 04, 2012, 11:36:59 am
Yeah, might give it another try some day (I've already tried some months ago and failed).

Added steppe armor.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on November 04, 2012, 12:54:22 pm
Added leather vest and gilded churburg cuirass.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Snow Gibbon on November 06, 2012, 07:55:41 am
Could I see a mail hauberk like this pretty please? with the sleeves coloured.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Voso on November 06, 2012, 08:14:57 am
My god yes.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Knitler on November 07, 2012, 12:20:24 pm
Hey theres also 4kind of one stuff with different colours, you could make it like with the armor probably, guess what thing;

(click to show/hide)

Hmm green and blue are more round.


PS: What do you think about the idea that in strat battles everyside has the banner of the "Faction" fightin for, so there would 2 banners on the field, cause of that colourcode if someone has the same in the enemy team its really weird. Also it gives you more unity ^^
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Segd on November 07, 2012, 12:36:43 pm
Quote from: Knitler on November 07, 2012, 12:20:24 pm
Hey theres also 4kind of one stuff with different colours, you could make it like with the armor probably, guess what thing;
Yes plz. Trading some things on the marketplace could be easer if you don't need to specify exact color of the armor. & there would be easer to manage strat inventory if you will have just lammellar vest without "white", "black" or "khergit" tags
Quote from: Knitler on November 07, 2012, 12:20:24 pm

PS: What do you think about the idea that in strat battles everyside has the banner of the "Faction" fightin for, so there would 2 banners on the field, cause of that colourcode if someone has the same in the enemy team its really weird. Also it gives you more unity ^^
This is bad for coordination & discipline. Right now you could visually count faction members & give them separate orders(like: Bashis go left, DRZ defend the spawn point, "who is this fucking DRZ guy charging directly on the enemy shieldwall alone?").
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Knitler on November 07, 2012, 03:01:56 pm
Quote from: Segd on November 07, 2012, 12:36:43 pm
This is bad for coordination & discipline. Right now you could visually count faction members & give them separate orders(like: Bashis go left, DRZ defend the spawn point, "who is this fucking DRZ guy charging directly on the enemy shieldwall alone?").

For the coordination, they still would be Bashibazouk, Templars etc. ;) ... well if he comes back or dies you see the name anyway. It would be more funnier, except you use an armor like Yawshan or something without heraldic. But its look shitty when the whole army is usin heraldic, some of em are yellow, some black, some brown. And on the enemy side aswell? Maybe the same banner like on of these. I mean its not irritating me actually but it would look better.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Voso on November 11, 2012, 04:23:03 am
I am going to have to redo my looms for these aren't I? :[
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on November 17, 2012, 03:06:48 pm
Military service is over; updates should become more frequent again.

Added padded leather to OP.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on November 17, 2012, 06:29:17 pm
You should recolor some of the hats that go with these armors.
Like the padded coif and such.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Troublion on November 17, 2012, 06:29:48 pm
Any pink armor ? Think about gays players, they would be so disappointed by that lack  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Miwiw on November 17, 2012, 06:38:19 pm
Quote from: Troublion on November 17, 2012, 06:29:48 pm
Any pink armor ? Think about gays players, they would be so disappointed by that lack  :mrgreen:

That will depend on your banner.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on November 17, 2012, 08:52:46 pm
Quote from: Froto_the_Loc on November 17, 2012, 06:29:17 pm
You should recolor some of the hats that go with these armors.
Like the padded coif and such.

Yeah, I'll first convert as many armors as I can, then I will try out head gear and shields

Added cuir bouilli.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Inglorious on November 17, 2012, 09:56:36 pm
Hey could you make a re-coloration render for the Haubergeon? That cloth around the neck being the target of interest  :wink:
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on November 17, 2012, 10:54:55 pm
Haubergeon added.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Inglorious on November 17, 2012, 11:08:32 pm
You're awesome bud. Looks great
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: no_rules_just_play on November 18, 2012, 03:57:25 am
fallens will probably have pink banner, their heraldic horses (heirloom pack) do have pink too :P
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on November 18, 2012, 04:03:56 pm
Added Clibanarius armor.

Also, here are some screenshots of a girl with a violet banner:

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Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Jarlek on November 18, 2012, 04:19:04 pm
Quote from: no_rules_just_play on November 18, 2012, 03:57:25 am
fallens will probably have pink banner, their heraldic horses (heirloom pack) do have pink too :P
Oh God. I didn't think of the heraldic horses pack. These two together would be SO BADASS I might die from a badass overdose!

And lucky me for having a clan with a Blue clan colour :D
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 18, 2012, 09:49:37 pm
Have you  considered trying that one leather armor? Talking about the skirt and the scarf. It's my favorite light armor, only thing holding it from being the best looking armor in game is the horrible green on said skirt and scarf.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Jarlek on November 18, 2012, 11:24:40 pm
Quote from: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 18, 2012, 09:49:37 pm
Have you  considered trying that one leather armor? Talking about the skirt and the scarf. It's my favorite light armor, only thing holding it from being the best looking armor in game is the horrible green on said skirt and scarf.
This one?
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on November 18, 2012, 11:47:04 pm
Added leather armor to OP.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Miley on November 18, 2012, 11:56:13 pm
How long did it take to do this? Lulllllllz...
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 19, 2012, 12:12:04 am
Amazing, I've 1+'d every one of your posts in this thread!
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on November 19, 2012, 12:18:02 am
Quote from: Miley on November 18, 2012, 11:56:13 pm
How long did it take to do this? Lulllllllz...

About 30 minutes, maybe a bit less. The colored areas were pretty easy to mask on this one.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on November 19, 2012, 08:27:45 pm
Updated OP with padded jack, but imageshack has some problems ATM.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Firebrand on November 20, 2012, 08:08:47 am
Dear zagibu do you plan to share your awesome work with ppl? We want these colored armors! Can't wait while devs will implement(it may take ages).
gimme!
 :D
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on November 20, 2012, 08:34:10 pm
Yeah, I'm going to do 5-10 more and then I will post it in the OP, and hopefully, the devs will be able to include it soon.

Added heavy yawshan.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Firebrand on November 21, 2012, 08:23:02 am
Quote from: zagibu on November 20, 2012, 08:34:10 pm
Yeah, I'm going to do 5-10 more and then I will post it in the OP, and hopefully, the devs will be able to include it soon.

Added heavy yawshan.
You are awesome! :)
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Inglorious on November 21, 2012, 09:01:07 am
Yashawn looks great. Would use!
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on November 21, 2012, 08:50:34 pm
Katafraktoi Armor added.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: LastKaze on November 21, 2012, 09:08:45 pm
I approve this idea!
+1
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Firebrand on November 22, 2012, 04:11:58 pm
7 ppl in this thread are daltonians! :evil: :twisted:
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on November 22, 2012, 08:30:04 pm
Added Druzhina Mail Shirt.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: LastKaze on November 22, 2012, 09:57:49 pm
Is it possible to changed the color of the lamellar vest (like the vest itself not the shirt) to some other color like red or so.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on November 22, 2012, 10:09:07 pm
Red metal? You would have to add a "painted" effect, and I can't do that. Simply tinting it red, as I'm doing here, would be quite unrealistic.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on November 22, 2012, 11:33:54 pm
Maybe I should have said something when you first started, but the red looks a little too orange.
Title: Re: Colored armors
Post by: zagibu on November 22, 2012, 11:46:28 pm
Then just take a banner that has a darker red as background. The colors are not fixed, they are dynamic. Maybe I should update the thread title...
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: Inglorious on November 24, 2012, 01:18:07 am
Black armour!? Replace the red stripes with the coloring technique. Opens up the armor for many people.

Sarranid mail shirt - If possible, I think it could work very nicely with your technique.

Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: Knitler on November 24, 2012, 12:22:55 pm
I want it in, NAUW!!!
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: zagibu on November 24, 2012, 01:19:49 pm
I will see what I can do with the black armor. Sarranid mail shirt is patterned, so it will be hard to make it look good, but I will give it a try after all the easy armors are converted.

Added Rus Lamellar Cuirass.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: Shpritza on November 24, 2012, 01:43:03 pm
awesome so faqing awesome me like me want nau
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: zagibu on November 24, 2012, 06:04:40 pm
Me, too, man.

Added Rus Scale Armor.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: Elmetiacos on November 24, 2012, 06:23:01 pm
I personally don't like this idea. It would make battlefields a riot of colour, like some kind of Caribbean carnival, which I don't think is what we want.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: Iymore on November 24, 2012, 06:34:25 pm
omg i want that heavy yawshans
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: zagibu on November 24, 2012, 09:43:57 pm
Added black and white slashed armor.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: Inglorious on November 25, 2012, 03:03:51 am
It worked perfectly! Wonderful work as always Zagibu!
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: zagibu on November 25, 2012, 06:17:58 pm
Added Druzhina Lamellar Armor and Peltastos Armor.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: arowaine on November 25, 2012, 10:00:59 pm
YES YES YES AMAZING
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: Gash on November 25, 2012, 10:08:16 pm
Should have the Shop have one example of the armor, and after clicking on it, brings you to a new page with the various colors for that armor.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: Casimir on November 25, 2012, 10:32:10 pm
Hope to see light leather soon :D
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: zagibu on November 25, 2012, 11:11:15 pm
Quote from: Gash on November 25, 2012, 10:08:16 pm
Should have the Shop have one example of the armor, and after clicking on it, brings you to a new page with the various colors for that armor.

There is no "the various colors for that armor", all armors in this thread can have any color that you choose as banner background. The full RGB spectrum is possible, or at least close to it.

I already started the light leather, but the results were disappointing, because the contrast between the black robe and the bright leather creates problems at the transitions. I haven't completely given up on it, yet, but it probably won't make it in the first release. Same goes for the (light) mail and plate. These armors have a texture that is only 512x512, which makes it very blurry at the color transitions, and hard for me to extract a proper mask. Steppe armor is the same thing. I've already posted it, but I am not happy with the result, and I will probably not release it together with the other armors in the OP.

The following armors are still planned for the first release (in addition to those in the OP with exclusion of Steppe Armor):
- Varangopoulos Armor
- Sipahi Yawshan
- Palace Guard Armor
- Byrnja

This means the first release should be ready before friday, so that maybe one of the devs can incorporate it into cRPG over the weekend. Yeah, right.

I know that there are more armors with potential, but most of them are problematic in some way and take a lot of time to convert, and I think it's best to get the bulk of them out as soon as possible, to see whether it really adds benefit to cRPG or not.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner background color)
Post by: Casimir on November 25, 2012, 11:21:58 pm
Quote from: zagibu on November 25, 2012, 11:11:15 pm
There is no "the various colors for that armor", all armors in this thread can have any color that you choose as banner background. The full RGB spectrum is possible, or at least close to it.

I already started the light leather, but the results were disappointing, because the contrast between the black robe and the bright leather creates problems at the transitions. I haven't completely given up on it, yet, but it probably won't make it in the first release. Same goes for the (light) mail and plate. These armors have a texture that is only 512x512, which makes it very blurry at the color transitions, and hard for me to extract a proper mask. Steppe armor is the same thing. I've already posted it, but I am not happy with the result, and I will probably not release it together with the other armors in the OP.

The following armors are still planned for the first release (in addition to those in the OP with exclusion of Steppe Armor):
- Varangopoulos Armor
- Sipahi Yawshan
- Palace Guard Armor
- Byrnja

This means the first release should be ready before friday, so that maybe one of the devs can incorporate it into cRPG over the weekend. Yeah, right.

I know that there are more armors with potential, but most of them are problematic in some way and take a lot of time to convert, and I think it's best to get the bulk of them out as soon as possible, to see whether it really adds benefit to cRPG or not.

Excellent news mate. :)
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Inglorious on November 25, 2012, 11:35:52 pm
Can't wait ! You're officially going to have your work incorporated into cRPG! Congratulations!
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: zagibu on November 25, 2012, 11:46:08 pm
Misclicked, sorry.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Miwiw on November 25, 2012, 11:53:15 pm
As you are able to create that kind of stuff, you can missclick as often as you want!!  :wink:
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Jarlek on November 26, 2012, 12:01:04 am
I dunno with you guys, but I'm thinking of giving 1 of my LP's when I retire to this man :D
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Inglorious on November 26, 2012, 12:05:32 am
Quote from: Zapper on November 26, 2012, 12:01:04 am
I dunno with you guys, but I'm thinking of giving 1 of my LP's when I retire to this man :D

A fair trade if I say so myself
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Callan on November 26, 2012, 12:22:26 am
HURRY AND ADD IT ALREADY!
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: zagibu on November 26, 2012, 01:17:57 am
Quote from: Zapper on November 26, 2012, 12:01:04 am
I dunno with you guys, but I'm thinking of giving 1 of my LP's when I retire to this man :D

Kickstarter with loom points :o. Only 19 loom points left until project completely funded ;).

Just kidding, keep your points, I'm doing this mostly for myself.

Added Varangopoulos armor.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: zagibu on November 26, 2012, 12:36:28 pm
Added Sipahi Jawshan. Yes, with J. I think it's correct with J, not with Y.

Two to go.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Jarlek on November 26, 2012, 03:02:55 pm
Quote from: zagibu on November 26, 2012, 12:36:28 pm
Added Sipahi Jawshan. Yes, with J. I think it's correct with J, not with Y.

Two to go.
Damn. That armour fits REALLY well with the different colours!
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Casimir on November 26, 2012, 03:20:24 pm
Will you do any of the light armour / pesant clothes e.g. Tunic with Green Cape, Red Shirt etc. ?
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Miwiw on November 26, 2012, 03:24:14 pm
He made Linen Tunic already. What I also would like to see are for example "Tunic with Vest" or some Lady Dress (e.g.  Red/Brown/Green Dress). Otherwise you did really cover all other armors. That's amazing work!
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Knitler on November 26, 2012, 03:26:17 pm
still, one thing.

Its based on backgroundcolor, but what if someone doesnt like the backgroundcolor on a armor like Yawshan. or Cuir Bouilli.?

So i hope there will be a normal version and your "heraldic" one.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Firebrand on November 26, 2012, 04:04:59 pm
If you don't like color variations in armor - pass by and don't fucking download this pretty mod and play with dull same clones armor!
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Miwiw on November 26, 2012, 04:07:56 pm
Quote from: Firebrand on November 26, 2012, 04:04:59 pm
If you don't like color variations in armor - pass by and don't fucking download this pretty mod and play with dull same clones armor!

read OP:

Quote
I have already talked to chadz on IRC and chances seem good that some or all of the armors will be integrated into cRPG.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Knitler on November 26, 2012, 04:09:59 pm
Quote from: Firebrand on November 26, 2012, 04:04:59 pm
If you don't like color variations in armor - pass by and don't fucking download this pretty mod and play with dull same clones armor!

stop fucking around.

I like it but still. For me especially Yawshan looks better without that, so im asking if its get implemented, it would be pity when youre saracen with yellow backgroundcolor and like the brown one/or normal one better.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 26, 2012, 04:12:19 pm
Quote from: Knitler on November 26, 2012, 03:26:17 pm
Its based on backgroundcolor, but what if someone doesnt like the backgroundcolor on a armor like Yawshan. or Cuir Bouilli.?
Then one can switch banner and stop clan-stacking siege.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Knitler on November 26, 2012, 04:13:28 pm
Quote from: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 26, 2012, 04:12:19 pm
Then one can switch banner and stop clan-stacking siege.

Then the others or normal heraldic with banner in front would be fucked ;)
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: zagibu on November 26, 2012, 04:47:45 pm
I also think that the fixed color armors should not be removed. There are two reasons:

a) Maybe you want a certain color, but have a fixed clan banner.
b) The fixed color looks slightly better than the dynamically colored one, because the blending method is not perfect.

Added palace guard armor. It's not perfect for bright colors, but dark colors look very good. Maybe I will try to improve it for the second release.

Byrnja can't be converted, unfortunately, because it uses submodels. Same problem as with Narf's brigandines and the heavy aketon. Someone would have to merge all textures of the submodels into one texture, and make new texture coordinates for the models. Unfortunately, I don't know how to do that.

I'm now going to prepare everything for the first release.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Firebrand on November 26, 2012, 08:23:26 pm
 Black background color looks perfect on models! And i love black colored armor! Lets the pussies and gays use pastel tones like pink!
 Also u should relese oiled plate armor! :)
 Here is my magic "+" from Valhalla! :)
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Moncho on November 26, 2012, 09:24:29 pm
Wow, that palace guard armor in white sure looks sweet. Great job man.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Firebrand on November 26, 2012, 09:27:58 pm
With this mod i will have motivation to buy few armors, and maybe even loom some! Great job! :D
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 26, 2012, 10:43:59 pm
Quote from: Knitler on November 26, 2012, 04:13:28 pm
Then the others or normal heraldic with banner in front would be fucked ;)
Change banner every three minutes?  :D
Edit: Forgot to 1+ a few posts, sorry great demigod of color, please forgive me, I promise you're right bellow Mork in my eyes.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: zagibu on November 26, 2012, 10:46:35 pm
Alright, I have sent it to the devs. Cross your fingers for an integration before christmas 2010. Oh, wait!
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Havoco on November 27, 2012, 02:53:43 am
I sure hope this will be added. It's probably the closest thing we'll ever have to heraldic cloth and leather armors.


Btw, WHY NO LEATHER JERKIN??   :( :cry:
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Knitler on November 28, 2012, 12:19:15 am
They will make a smart solution, im sure.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Carthan on November 29, 2012, 02:06:34 am
Will there be a way to select a banner for your armor that differs from your clan banner?
It would be nice for people who still want to use their clan banner yet, have a certain outfit design in mind.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Inglorious on November 29, 2012, 03:01:19 am
Any release date set in stone zagibu!?

I'm looking forward to it greatly
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: zagibu on November 29, 2012, 03:10:00 am
Quote from: Havoco on November 27, 2012, 02:53:43 am
Btw, WHY NO LEATHER JERKIN??   :( :cry:

Yeah, I can do that in the next release (if the current release ever goes live).

Quote from: Nazgull on November 29, 2012, 02:06:34 am
Will there be a way to select a banner for your armor that differs from your clan banner?
It would be nice for people who still want to use their clan banner yet, have a certain outfit design in mind.

That would be great, and maybe it's possible, but I have no idea how it could be achieved, sorry.

Quote from: IngloriouslyBad on November 29, 2012, 03:01:19 am
Any release date set in stone zagibu!?

I'm looking forward to it greatly

Me, too. Unfortunately, I know of nothing. While I was in cRPG IRC, cmpx has quickly taken a look at it, and we have talked a bit about performance implications, but I have no idea if, or when it will be included. He was of the opinion, that 80 ppl using dynamically colored armors could be a big performance problem for older computers. I'm sure they are testing that somehow before forcing it unto people.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Dooz on November 30, 2012, 02:28:02 pm
Quote from: zagibu on November 26, 2012, 04:47:45 pm
I also think that the fixed color armors should not be removed. There are two reasons:

a) Maybe you want a certain color, but have a fixed clan banner.
b) The fixed color looks slightly better than the dynamically colored one, because the blending method is not perfect.

Added palace guard armor. It's not perfect for bright colors, but dark colors look very good. Maybe I will try to improve it for the second release.

Byrnja can't be converted, unfortunately, because it uses submodels. Same problem as with Narf's brigandines and the heavy aketon. Someone would have to merge all textures of the submodels into one texture, and make new texture coordinates for the models. Unfortunately, I don't know how to do that.

I'm now going to prepare everything for the first release.

I wear a Byrnja and I love everything about this post. Now I can look forward to this without fear and enjoy all the new pretty colors on everyone else without losing my wife of a color. It's gonna be a fun battlefield out there pretty soon I'm guessing, nice work.  :D
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: BlueKnight on December 03, 2012, 12:42:43 am
BTW guys, is it possible to make dynamically coloured armours with bodyparts, so that your armour would always match your skin? (I am talking about the armours that weren't added because there was a ready-made skin colour and having a head of an afro-american and the rest of the body of a pale european is not meant to be in the mod). So is there any way to make body armour parts' colour, depend on the skin colour of a character? If yes, we could use this technique and repair with it the highlander armours or create new armours (like chainmails with short sleeves [where you can see forearms etc])
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Inglorious on December 07, 2012, 07:11:51 am
Keeping the dream alive with a bump
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: zagibu on December 12, 2012, 09:58:25 pm
Pinkey:

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Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 15, 2012, 01:36:17 pm
Bump for greatness.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Vaughn on December 16, 2012, 09:53:36 pm
This is glorious
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Augustus on December 19, 2012, 03:41:45 am
Finally my Tabard will display my true colours! The colors of True Sons of Skyrim!
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 27, 2012, 12:39:31 pm
Add please.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: sF_Guardian on December 27, 2012, 03:46:36 pm
This... looks... just... FUCKIN AMAZING!
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Soldier_of_God on December 31, 2012, 06:04:01 pm
I've been waiting forever for this, i've always been baffled as to why they never included this. I'm glad they finally will be doing this.

Only thing, on some armors i want my banner insignia to show, instead of just the color. so long as there is a heraldic tabard, surcoat, and transitional, im 100% for this.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Carthan on January 01, 2013, 06:10:24 am
Only way this could be better was if there were Dynmaically colored hoods too  :D
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Knitler on January 01, 2013, 12:22:24 pm
Quote from: Nazgull on January 01, 2013, 06:10:24 am
Only way this could be better was if there were Dynmaically colored hoods too  :D

Ye, some items like practice shield, blue hose, hoods, wisby gauntlets, also need to have that.

Quote from: Soldier_of_God on December 31, 2012, 06:04:01 pm
Only thing, on some armors i want my banner insignia to show, instead of just the color. so long as there is a heraldic tabard, surcoat, and transitional, im 100% for this.

In the mod of persistant world they have, tabards, brigandine, coat of plates and some more with heraldic and also with the banner.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: zagibu on January 01, 2013, 06:26:30 pm
I wonder how they did the coat of plates, though, because this one only got half a texture that is mirrored to the other side...not good for banners.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Dark_Blade on January 04, 2013, 09:05:22 pm
long time no bump
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on January 04, 2013, 09:36:33 pm
Quote from: zagibu on January 01, 2013, 06:26:30 pm
I wonder how they did the coat of plates, though, because this one only got half a texture that is mirrored to the other side...not good for banners.
I know next to nothing about modelling and all I know is from editing Morrowind meshes but wouldn't editing the UV map and making a new texture be enough to do it?
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: zagibu on January 05, 2013, 04:34:59 am
I guess. Wanna give it a try? We also need that for the Narf's men at arms stuff and dejawolf's byrnja.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on January 05, 2013, 01:12:56 pm
Quote from: zagibu on January 05, 2013, 04:34:59 am
I guess. Wanna give it a try? We also need that for the Narf's men at arms stuff and dejawolf's byrnja.
I suppose I could, will post here if I give up or succeed.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Lactating Vegetables on January 05, 2013, 02:25:23 pm
You gotta do Eastern Lamellar with Jacket :D
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on January 07, 2013, 04:49:07 pm
spectacular
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Haze_The_Hobo on January 07, 2013, 06:44:43 pm
Please chadz?!
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Zaar on January 11, 2013, 12:45:13 pm
Bump for great idea  :oops: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: iDazedi on January 12, 2013, 01:27:52 am
Why isn't this ingame yet? Could care less if they added any more armor, all I want is this.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on January 20, 2013, 02:06:47 pm
This is by far the best of the current new armor suggestions, and there are quite a few good ones atm.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Korgoth on January 20, 2013, 05:53:30 pm
I've had the same idea for a long time. Would love this in the game.
Title: Re: Dynamically colored armors (using banner backside color)
Post by: Firebrand on January 20, 2013, 06:10:35 pm
Still not implemented? Good!

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