Why?
Without UIF you wouldn't have a single fight in EU zone to gain experience.
Thinking of EU clans and their accomplishments on last strategus series.
HRE takes narra then goes afk
Fallen takes lands in NA territory behind HRE , goes afk
Kapikulu takes lands in NA territory , goes afk
Mercs spoke much but done nothing
Guards ???
Ninjas ???
Deserters???
Byzantium & New Shogunate ??? (Not zeh old one)
Wolpers ???
SoA ???Any other eu clan that i forgot ?
Only active factions that played and found whole BUGS in this game are factions in UIF.
I don't understand why do people create textwall of "features" and shit to scatter UIF.
I would understand if those guys have actually done something in strategus...
Were you asleep at the beginning of Strat 3.0?? HRE and Fallen were in massive war with ATS, Occitan, Hospitallers and were winning then the desert alliance fought a bunch of battles in the desert and came up and saved Hospitallers with overwhelming numbers and fireballs from the sky, meanwhile UIF sat around doing nothing but stroking each other's carebear fur. Eventually these battles ended and UIF still had no wars other than a 50:1 war against mercs with overwhelming numbers that didn't risk anything. Then EU became completely dead because UIF was just 1 big circle jerk, with NA having all the fights.I don't give a single fuck about what happens in NA territory.
So yes, a lot more fights and fiefs to fight over if 70% of EU didn't ally together and sit around and do nothing but trading and taking neutral fiefs (now in strat 4 - randomly assigned fiefs that are not defended).
ignore crusader alliance, their main opponent, we liek all the fights and xps to ourselves!Templar Alliance sounds better that Crusader Alliance and you know it !!!
Eventually these battles ended and UIF still had no wars other than a 50:1 war against mercs with overwhelming numbers that didn't risk anything.
Ninjas ???We're rocking NA. That's where the party is.
We're rocking NA. That's where the party is.
What will you do if UIF quits the game ?Ehm, I don't know. Maybe have a very interesting game of Strategus without mega alliances and interesting diplomacy. UIF killed Strategus, don't you ever think that UIF did the game mode any good.
What does UIF prevent you to do ?Me? Nothing. I am having an awesome, albeit short, round in Strategus. Sadly, it prevents most of the other clans from fighting on their own in Strategus, thus they have formed the counter UIF alliance, which created the worst round of Strat yet, the current one. While the mechanics in Strat got so much better, the community ruined it, a trend started by the forming of the UIF and especially it's continuation in the next three Strat rounds.
This guy's a fucking idiot. And I came to say what Kesh already said.So you just gonna ignore the part where UIF invaded and took over 50% of NA?
HRE and Fallen didn't take lands and go AFK...they might have wiped Hospitallers if it wasn't for Templars coming in to support.
Hospitallers and allies pushed Fallen out of the desert (at which point they went AFK after losing territory). And HRE's lands were taken over and then given (or taken) by the Caravan guild.
UIF did push out the Templars, and Mercs, and Kapikulas from their territory, but that was before the half-way point in strat. After that it was 95% sitting around trading/turtling, and 5% defending border skirmishes from those EU factions that left.
With all that peaceful and secure borders, they still didn't even manage to take every AI castle or city, not until Strat 4 was announced, and I still don't even know if Ahmerrad was ever taken over.
I'm pretty sure last strat that most NA cities were taken over before the announcement of Strat 4, and some of the northern factions weren't able to, because of the lingering threat from Hospitallers.
We took our claims , went to kill kapikulu and killed kapikulu
BashiBazouk - took their claims, went to kill Kapikulu but Wolves/Templars did it for them in the end, formed the Empire and then did ?
So you just gonna ignore the part where UIF invaded and took over 50% of NA?
Druzhina you mean? Because they would rather fight on NA ping than risk upsetting their neighbors in a video game? There was no incentive to expand, and no punishment for not, so I don't blame large alliances, but the UIF was mainly playing the trading simulator game last strat.Except all their enemies fled to NA, got welcomed by NA as their overlords, given fiefs, troops, gold and equipment and settled down nicely; then yes, they really did not have a reason to invade NA.
shitpostSiktir git .
Siktir git .That made me laugh for at least 10 mins
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Don't you UIF boys see anything retardedly boring in having the same fucking alliance for 4 Strategus rounds? Mostly the same claims aswell.Not as boring as GTXing Strat 2 just because you got your asses handed to you.
Not as boring as GTXing Strat 2 just because you got your asses handed to you.
At least they still have battles. What have byzantium/shogunate been doing?
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Not as boring as GTXing Strat 2 just because you got your asses handed to you.Having the time of our life, not wasting valuable time on the boring turd that is post-UIF strat. Really fucking mature by the way, to ignore any valid points of discussion by bragging about a victory brought about by an enormous alliance more than a year ago, a victory that has nothing to do with me as, like Cicero mentioned, I wasn't even there.
At least they still have battles. What have byzantium/shogunate been doing?
Having the time of our life, not wasting valuable time on the boring turd that is post-UIF strat. Really fucking mature by the way, to ignore any valid points of discussion by bragging about a victory brought about by an enormous alliance more than a year ago, a victory that has nothing to do with me as, like Cicero mentioned, I wasn't even there.
Posts like these, which you and a few others have been posting for a year now, have formed a certain image of Risen in my clan, it ain't pretty. As an outsider who is not influenced by feelings of rage because of losing, I wholeheartedly agree with that image. Good job.
Having the time of our life, not wasting valuable time on the boring turd that is post-UIF strat. Really fucking mature by the way, to ignore any valid points of discussion by bragging about a victory brought about by an enormous alliance more than a year ago, a victory that has nothing to do with me as, like Cicero mentioned, I wasn't even there.He is telling you that we had equal numbers even we had less people UIF didnt help us we were legio risen bashi only union attacked pillagers because they hated them long time ago.
Not as boring as GTXing Strat 2 just because you got your asses handed to you.This is retarded beyond measure, claiming we all ally and then once in a while gank some single clan with our 10 clans is ok 'cause you "hav da big battlz an da expz s giv 2 da pplz fromz os" is a decent reason for fucking strat up and gayifying it like crazy is stupid beyond measure, and if the only reason you guys play strat is to once in a while leech exp when ganking someone who didn't wanna join a gigantic allience then you're seriously WAY to addicted to this shit, I know it's crazy to think strat should be played for fun and not exp but yea'...
At least they still have battles. What have byzantium/shogunate been doing?
Do you fuckin know how many times Ujin tried to take me their side by using my motions on being ex-shogunate member ?Now, what does that have to do with Teeth exactly? Ujin is not the leader of his strat clan and I'm pretty sure Ujin isn't even in it...
Do you fuckin know ujin offered me to share union lands ?
No ; gtfo please
Having the time of our life, not wasting valuable time on the boring turd that is post-UIF strat. Really fucking mature by the way, to ignore any valid points of discussion by bragging about a victory brought about by an enormous alliance more than a year ago, a victory that has nothing to do with me as, like Cicero mentioned, I wasn't even there.visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Posts like these, which you and a few others have been posting for a year now, have formed a certain image of Risen in my clan, it ain't pretty. As an outsider who is not influenced by feelings of rage because of losing, I wholeheartedly agree with that image. Good job.
Now, what does that have to do with Teeth exactly? Ujin is not the leader of his strat clan and I'm pretty sure Ujin isn't even in it...
Hihi, Teeth.Who is you? I was in Ninja. It's clear that you don't care about what anyone thinks of you, cause you, well mostly Zapper, are reinforcing the image right here. There was no GTXting Strategus, afaik nobody really cared except for Ujin, who somewhat succeeded in getting people to put some effort into it. When Ujin quit leadership, nobody simply gave a fuck. Again, I wasn't there, but this is what I heard when I asked about Strategus. I could completely understand, cause I played Strat 2 in a carebear alliance with 22nd as a Ninja, and god it was boring.
We're having the time of our life playing both cRPG & Strategus, its some awesome variety while playing, strat 3 was just plain bad sadly.
Strat 1,2 were great, we had our alliance vs your alliance, and you blew it, and GTX strategus. We had no support from DRZ/Grey besides Mercs, but you guys had full rosters too so that shouldn't be an issue?
Also make sure not to tell your plans to everyone next time you plan backstabbing the Union. Odd move, I figured you folks knew the Risen was UIF back in the days. :rolleyes:
You folks can think of us(/previous us) whatever you want to think, but honestly the amount of fucks I, or any of us give about that is pretty damn low. :P
I don't know with the rest of you, but I've had a great time with all the battles DRZ, Empire, Union and Grey have had through Strat 3. Lots of XP for everyone. Even the NA ones where good, thanks to the competent command of Hetman, Harpag, Nebun, Vovka, Cicero, Ivan Grozny, Harun and all the other UIF commanders.I tell you that I think doing the same shit for 4 Strats in a row is boring and you respond 'atleast we have battles'. Wow, great fucking response. For me this entire discussion is about UIF sparking the need to for mega-alliances which ended us up in the undesirable, boring Strategus set up we have now.
And the reason why I don't respond to your "valid points" is that, well, you don't actually have many, and the few you do, I actually respond to. In the post I quoted you werecomplainingwhining about how boring the UIF guys must be for having the same alliances and claims all the time. I responded with a "well, at least they have battles unlike you guys". Exactly where did I "ignore any valid points of discussion" when I just fucking did? You are pulling stuff out your arse and, sorry, but I have to call you on it. Stop making shit up.
Byzantium has no strat clan, but it used to be Ujin for Shogunate in strategus 2 (their last), Teeth is trying to post stuff about strat 2 which he didn't attend and has absolutely no clue about so its kind of amusing.Actually I read a lot of stuff on the forums and if there is one thing I know for sure it's that Risen were being a bunch of retards on it, atleast Zapper hasn't lost his Risen roots, that's for sure.
Quoting all this delicious whine :D(click to show/hide)
Quoting all this delicious whine :DGlad that I can count on you to prove my point over and over.
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I don't know with the rest of you, but I've had a great time with all the battles DRZ, Empire, Union and Grey have had through Strat 3. Lots of XP for everyone. Even the NA ones where good, thanks to the competent command of Hetman, Harpag, Nebun, Vovka, Cicero, Ivan Grozny, Harun and all the other UIF commanders.
K, so once again you talk as if exp is the only reason to play strat, and as if you having fun pathetically ganking everyone is particularly surprising... 10vs1 can occasionally be fun... ...as long as you're the 10...
And the reason why I don't respond to your "valid points" is that, well, you don't actually have many, and the few you do, I actually respond to. In the post I quoted you werecomplainingwhining about how boring the UIF guys must be for having the same alliances and claims all the time. I responded with a "well, at least they have battles unlike you guys". Exactly where did I "ignore any valid points of discussion" when I just fucking did? You are pulling stuff out your arse and, sorry, but I have to call you on it. Stop making shit up.
Also your "Well at least they have battles unlike you guys" is utter bs as UDNWSFLC pretty much has had more battles than you guys, and unlike yours these where real battles, not exchanging fiefs or ganking someone 10:1.
Actually I read a lot of stuff on the forums and if there is one thing I know for sure it's that Risen were being a bunch of retards on it, atleast Zapper hasn't lost his Risen roots, that's for sure.
Sure, you lads might've been so mad at some of us, some of them don't change (Zapper has, just not because the amount of braindead activity going on here).Fixed.
But we had all right to stroke the large e-peen after succesfullymaking Shogunate GTX for 2 strat rounds so far, so please do consider some of us as morons whenever you want because we can be morons.allying with everyone you could and ganking the rest.
But what I consider you or your clan, is what I keep for myself, no need for getting pointless strat 2 personality arguments in 'ere, this is long ago, lets just discuss shall we?
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Oh and Zlisch,What I meant was that you'd have 10 times the actual armies and players in your faction doing shit in strat, all UIF wars involves UIF ganking the other faction with 10 times the armies, I don't fucking care about your battles having the same amount of people in the rooster or your exp per battle, point is every war is fixed due to you having endlessly more troops than whoever you bother fighting and that the only solution to that is everyone who isn't you allying against you leading to entire strat becoming one huge gay coalition vs uif as we're seeing now.
There is no ganking 1 on 10 because all rosters were 24/7 filled, please stop with the bullshit. Also we had plenty of real battles, if only you'd keep track of the battle list.
What I meant was that you'd have 10 times the actual armies and players in your faction doing shit in strat, all UIF wars involves UIF ganking the other faction with 10 times the armies, I don't fucking care about your battles having the same amount of people in the rooster or your exp per battle, point is every war is fixed due to you having endlessly more troops than whoever you bother fighting and that the only solution to that is everyone who isn't you allying against you leading to entire strat becoming one huge gay coalition vs uif as we're seeing now.
stop playing strategus if you hate losing so much, or join one of the carebear alliances. :wink:
stop playing strategus if you hate losing so much, or join one of the carebear alliances. :wink:I'm losing with a smile, that is because I see Strategus as just another game, where winning is not a necessity for having fun, which is the main goal. I only hate that some people cannot seem to stop talking to me about a year old victory over a clan that I was not in, instead of discussing the negative effect that a 4 rounds old alliance might have had on Strategus.
I'm losing with a smile, that is because I see Strategus as just another game, where winning is not a necessity for having fun, which is the main goal. I only hate that some people cannot seem to stop talking to me about a year old victory over a clan that I was not in, instead of discussing the negative effect that a 4 rounds old alliance might have had on Strategus.
Who is you?Quit reading after this.
Quit reading after this.I am referring to the fact that he says 'you' when talking about the Shogunate in Strategus 2, like I had anything to do with that.
Even my turkish guys without any knowledge of english know when to put "is" and when to put "are" -_-'
I can stop if you want to. It just depends if you keep on talking a load of trash about us or not mate. By now people should know I can also post on the forums to stop people like you spreading a load of crap about strat 2 or my old clan.I never mentioned Strat 2 or your old clan, I only expressed my thoughts about the stale state Strategus is in due to the same diplomacy and claims inside UIF. Whereupon Zapper starts bragging to me, someone who wasn't ever in Shogunate, about a year old victory and attacks my clan's decision to not participate in Strategus, which also happened before I joined. Which is therefore completely irrelevant, cause it has effectively nothing to do with the issue at hand or me.
I am referring to the fact that he says 'you' when talking about the Shogunate in Strategus 2, like I had anything to do with that.
I never mentioned Strat 2 or your old clan, I only expressed my thoughts about the stale state Strategus is in due to the same diplomacy and claims inside UIF. Whereupon Zapper starts bragging to me, someone who wasn't ever in Shogunate, about a year old victory and attacks my clan's decision to not participate in Strategus, which also happened before I joined. Which is therefore completely irrelevant, cause it has effectively nothing to do with the issue at hand or me.
Read the progression of the conversation attentively and tell me how this is not an example of immature and retarded behaviour on the account of Zapper and subsequently you. I don't expect you to be able to, as you are still too occupied about wanking over winning against a clan I wasn't in in Strat 2. You are both exactly displaying the same behaviour on the forum as you did during Strategus 2.0, which I as an outsider, watched with disgust. You weren't diplomatic or mature enough to lead a clan back then, which made Risen into what it was. Shame that you weren't able to change after all.
Read the progression of the conversation attentively and tell me how this is not an example of immature and retarded behaviour on the account of Zapper and subsequently you. I don't expect you to be able to, as you are still too occupied about wanking over winning against a clan I wasn't in in Strat 2. You are both exactly displaying the same behaviour on the forum as you did during Strategus 2.0, which I as an outsider, watched with disgust. You weren't diplomatic or mature enough to lead a clan back then, which made Risen into what it was. Shame that you weren't able to change after all.
All you do is reflecting the image of what you think about me or Zapper to an entire clan, I don't care what you think about us, but don't involve people that have nothing to do with it. I'm calling you a braindead whiner, doesn't mean I call Byzantium a clan full of whiners.And yet you are still dickwaving at a person that wasn't in the clan you beat. You are projecting your victory on me. Which is utterly ridiculous. The thing with leadership is Thovex, you are a representative for your clan. I reflect the image I have of you on your entire clan, because you are the leader. Your behaviour as leader made lots of Risen act the way they did. That is why leaders mostly try to act diplomatic and make sure their members don't go too far, and oh boy did you fail in that regard.
We shoved our sword up Shogunates ass, we won, they lost, we started dickwaving, they started whining. It ALWAYS happens like this, please do fucking think for a second will you.
The only thing I said about the events in Strat 2, is that Risen brag about their victory like they accomplished it alone, instead of the multi-clan effort it was, which you as one of those clans can probably agree upon. Similarly to your statement here, they do not have rights to associate me with something I didn't have anything to do with, something I have outlined in every one of my posts but yet it hasn't come through.(click to show/hide)
And yet you are still dickwaving at a person that wasn't in the clan you beat. You are projecting your victory on me. Which is utterly ridiculous. The thing with leadership is Thovex, you are a representative for your clan. I reflect the image I have of you on your entire clan, because you are the leader. Your behaviour as leader made lots of Risen act the way they did. That is why leaders mostly try to act diplomatic and make sure their members don't go too far, and oh boy did you fail in that regard.
Oh really, so Byzantiums are all backstabbers since Ujin wanted to backstab the Union is what you're saying?It's all in the game, move on. The behaviour of you and some of your clan members on the forums had nothing to do with the game anymore, and was just completely immature.
It's all in the game, move on. The behaviour of you and some of your clan members on the forums had nothing to do with the game anymore, and was just completely immature.
Oh really, so Byzantiums are all backstabbers since Ujin wanted to backstab the Union is what you're saying? Fair enough, then I know that now. :?
Give me a clan that ISN"T a backstabber. Name 1 clan that doesn't have a negative stigma that you can apply to the whole clan.
At the same time, even though they won or w/e you wanna call it, I never see union post on the forums here usually. So I only know them based on their strat actions, and that's not much. But on the reverse, you got GO who now have the dirty reputation as multi keying amongst others that you find out because of their forum actions. 2 sides of the same coin.
No no no, just stating that's another type of stigma. Using the (oft used) example of Grays and there cheating ways versus Union which you don't hear much about other than their armies marching around taking stuff. Just stating the fact that the forum presences of Gray Leaders leads to a lower reputation continually versus the 0 presences of Union who you only Riff on for being UIF.
Right, but people don't see them so they don't say anything more than UIF bastards or some variation about Union.
Grays have far more stigmas attached to them mainly cause of Harpag and Erasmus(the leaders) and what they say or do, even if 90% of clan doesn't.
Just all i'm saying. Oh and I also said name me a clan that doesn't have a stigma.
I hope. SWF did a good job in the beginning at making drama.
NA factions aren't big enough yet...
Well, I guess we kinda are with the Locked down borders, attack on sight stuff.
Give me a clan that ISN"T a backstabber. Name 1 clan that doesn't have a negative stigma that you can apply to the whole clan.
At the same time, even though they won or w/e you wanna call it, I never see union post on the forums here usually. So I only know them based on their strat actions, and that's not much. But on the reverse, you got GO who now have the dirty reputation as multi keying amongst others that you find out because of their forum actions. 2 sides of the same coin.
Give me a clan that ISN"T a backstabber. Name 1 clan that doesn't have a negative stigma that you can apply to the whole clan.DRZ :) Never heard that we backstabbed someone.
DRZ :) Never heard that we backstabbed someone.
Were you asleep at the beginning of Strat 3.0?? HRE and Fallen were in massive war with ATS, Occitan, Hospitallers and were winning then the desert alliance fought a bunch of battles in the desert and came up and saved Hospitallers with overwhelming numbers and fireballs from the sky, meanwhile UIF sat around doing nothing but stroking each other's carebear fur. Eventually these battles ended and UIF still had no wars other than a 50:1 war against mercs with overwhelming numbers that didn't risk anything. Then EU became completely dead because UIF was just 1 big circle jerk, with NA having all the fights.
So yes, a lot more fights and fiefs to fight over if 70% of EU didn't ally together and sit around and do nothing but trading and taking neutral fiefs (now in strat 4 - randomly assigned fiefs that are not defended).
I like to think FCC has kept a pretty clean record. We've been the target of some vicious propaganda in the past, but I like to think we have kept our noses pretty clean.
But you have a negative stigma. The point was, name 1 clan that has not done something to get a negative stigma attached to it.
But in terms of backstabbing, absolutely not.
Well, at first you said name a clan that didn't backstab, after that something about negative stigma's. :)
FCC started as a anti clan /anti EU group.
Bands toghether multiple clans under FCC banner, attack NA (quite successfuly with help from Fallen/Mercs *strat 2)
2nd largest clan in Na. Congrats!
FCC started as a anti clan /anti EU group.
Bands toghether multiple clans under FCC banner, attack NA (quite successfuly with help from Fallen/Mercs *strat 2)
2nd largest clan in Na. Congrats!
huh? we started as an anti-eu group? FCC has been around since strat 1 and has had a lot of dealings with a lot of clans.
as for strat 2, we fought against mercs for land, we weren't "anti-eu" or "anti-clan" FCC came around as a cooperative faction when BRD and Cavalieres decided to work together in strat 1. If we were "anti-clan" why would we be in clans to begin with? we have been against permanent mega-alliances I guess... as for "anti-eu" we fought mercs, then made peace with them and worked with EU groups to fight against the biggest NA alliance, then we ended up fighting DRZ and Chaos (a big EU and NA clan) with support from many NA clans and some EU clans. I don't really see where you are coming up with "anti-clan" or "anti-eu" we have always been more interested in fighting low ping battles vs other NA clans wherever possible, in strat 4 we have 0 interest in the EU side of the map and aren't even near the border.
well just from bits and pieces I hear you say either way its good to know a little more about my enemy.
I look forward to reduce your fief numbers!
well just from bits and pieces I hear you say either way its good to know a little more about my enemy.
I look forward to reduce your fief numbers!
When you kneel and kiss the Holy Lepers clawed up maws and swear to never lay a finger on any of the righteous ever again then perhaps we shall have peace between our lands.. As for now your wicked transgressions will never be erased from my memory or any other man of good faith. That goes double for any one trying to gain our favor and betraying it! God forgives but I dont.