As the topic says, i request nerf on cavalrys alternative attack, couched lance.if any lancer attack should be nerfed, it's the thrust, not the couching option, thrusting with a lance was thrown overboard in the later medieval times anyway because your arm isn't very sturdy when stretched. and i'm dedicated cav
Or then nerf their speed bonus uber damage with primary attack.
I think it is very unfair that lancing cavalry has 2 very very effetive attacks, couched always 1 hits, Heavy Lance strike very often 1 hits.
And as many people have seen in the past months, cavalry numbers has been overwhelming, it ain't hard to think why.
If not nerf attacks, i ask to raise damage done to horses, so they also die in 1 hit.(click to show/hide)
If not nerf attacks, i ask to raise damage done to horses, so they also die in 1 hit.You must be one of the dumbass who didn't notice the difference after the patch, all horses can actually die from 1 hit now (To the legs), why don't you try suicide charging for 30 rounds and see how all horses can get 1 hit-instant death? Plate charger cannot go solo anymore, those heavy horses are only good against ranged and suck versus infantry
I play cav with my alt and i think it is way too easy and way too powerful: Not everyone is good at lancing , if you think couch lance is OP why don't you try the build of 12/33 with 0 PS to see how OP you are? You will probably get 1 shoted by ranged or melee players. Couching is kinda like a backup and it is not a main weapon of lancers, thrusting is. THIS IS MOUNT AND BLADE , CAV IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE CLASS IN CRPG
Heavy lance has already been nerf, heavy horses got nerf very badly, what else do you want?
I know people think couching is fine but yesterday a guy with 11 riding and a couch only spear proved it's not so "weak" or "THAT risky" as people make it look like.
Heavy lance has already been nerf, heavy horses got nerf very badly, what else do you want? Please stop making useless threads just because you got raped by Cav
i suggest cav can hit with lance only in right side, not this unrealistic lance move in left thru horse head !!!! :evil:
I know people think couching is fine but yesterday a guy with 11 riding and a couch only spear proved it's not so "weak" or "THAT risky" as people make it look like.
This guy kept on getting kills after kills and having 11 riding made him able to escape everyone. He was almost all the time at the top 5 in kills and even if he had 2-3 PS at most thanks to the couching high damage he wasn't so "weak".
I don't think couching should be removed but it definitely needs a penalty if used.
Buff cavalry
And you do not need «high level» char for this.
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 12
Agility: 33
Hit points: 47
Skills to attributes: 20
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 0
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 11
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 114
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
The problem with a build like this though (also what makes it balanced) is that a stiff breeze could kill you. You need to get relative close to lance which puts you in range of archers, xbows, throwers, pikes, etc. Every one of those have the potential of 1-shotting you as you approach. Especially 'cause you'll be moving pretty damn fast with 11 riding.
Yes, but also with this speed you can choose unaware targets. And 70% of players is unaware. Reloading xbowers, aiming archers, charging shielders etc...
And this speed is very good if you prefer Boom-zoom tactics - only possible tactics with great lance.
So let me get this straight, a horse at full gallop which is going 40-50 MPH (64-80 KPH) (or an armored horse which is going about 30 MPH 48KPH) and a couched lance with all the force and speed of the horse behind it, you think wouldnt one hit your horse/rider/infantryman? It would go straight through that fucking horse or infantryman.
DERP DERP DERP DERPI DERP DERP
Today I saw an ally of mine be couched by a guy on a destrier. My ally was standing pretty much still, took it in the chest, but survived. I stood there dumbfolded, thinking "the FUCK did they do with couch damage?". Buff it.i can survive couched lance, i got 7 if and 30 str with 58 body armor/52 head/53 leg ,no need to buff or nerf
Also useless poll is useless. Two options for "No, but increase damage to horse" but NO options for the simple, and pretty obvious choice "No, buff them". Even if you don't AGREE that it should be buffed, you'll have to agree that it should be in the poll. What we have no is a poll between "keep it as it is" and different variations of nerfing cav. Biased like a bawse!
PS: I like the "lance is 0slot, x% chance of breaking" idea.
Game balance > realism.
Any Cav player that picks Infantry should have their riding skill converted into athletics so they can still compete properly. Like in Rageball.there will be no reason for athletics then
imo couches are abit OP.. if you do them right there is basically only 1 way to not get hit by the couch and you can't even reach the horse/rider unless you have a very long weapon
how many fucking time do I have to say it doesnt take much for a fucking 2,000 lb warhorse to knock your shit onto the fucking ground, get serious people, you are all acting like fucking idiots
Its true, only the armoured horses would tip the 2k lb mark. But ONE THOUSAND POUNDS OF HORSE is still a lot of horse, i agree with his sentiment.
imo couches are abit OP.. if you do them right there is basically only 1 way to not get hit by the couch and you can't even reach the horse/rider unless you have a very long weapon
Unless the player has athletics and pays attention.
uhh not true really, most players don't know how to couch correctly and they do it in a way that makes them think couching is useless.No. You are wrong. There is no "right" way to couch. It sucks and is suicide. That's the end of it. Stop spreading this bullshit.
if you couch the "right" way it's actually quite hard to dodge the couch and almost impossible to outreach it unless with a very long weapon awlpike length+.
Medieval horse weight about 800-1100lb.
No no, thats the weight of bullshit you spout when you make up figures based on the air produced by your own ass.
Heavy-weight
Large, heavy horses, weighing from 1,500 to 2,000 pounds (680 to 910 kg), the ancestors of today's draught horses, were used, particularly in Europe, from the Middle Ages onward.
Some historians believe they may have carried the heaviest-armoured knights of the European Late Middle Ages though others dispute this claim, indicating that the destrier, or knight's battle horse, was a medium-weight animal
No, but remove forcefield on horse caused by shield.
Too bad this option of the poll came late, it seems, since so many people are voting the "no, it's perfectly balanced".
Don't leave this out:
In other words, actual historians argue about it.
So argue about game balance and leave the history to historians to argue over :shock:
1: horses die eazely very very very eazely, 2: couching is fuckin eazy to dodge if you know they comming 3: people cant block after they have hit a couch for a split second. 4: cav pays highest upkeep 5: even if cav blocks most of the time theyr horse still receives damage 6: probably 50% of the time a rider gets dehorsed he will be killed before he can stand up> look back at point 1.
i am not a cavman, and i tell you if you think couching or eny cav in that aspect is op, i have some advice for you:(click to show/hide)
fail edit is fail damn quote button :oops:Lies. We know you are really talking to yourself like Abay!
1: horses die eazely very very very eazely, 2: couching is fuckin eazy to dodge if you know they comming 3: people cant block after they have hit a couch for a split second. 4: cav pays highest upkeep 5 even if cav blocks most of the time theyr horse still receives damage
i am not a cavman, and i tell you if you think couching or eny cav in that aspect is op, i have some advice for you:(click to show/hide)
yes yes, but i still think archery is to powerfull
L2P.
haha says you, you have brain damage? you forget your thoughtalk ? and us steamrolling you ? if u want 1vs1 name a time. freakin new scrub tough talking, meh piece of shit.Umad? also trölled
Umad? also trölled
With my two handed, it is easy to kill horses. When you jumped to their left, they can't stab you and therefore dead. 90% of cav players tend to fall for this. Beat it cavalry is a class required skill, and when there is a good cavalry on the server; they are only as effective as other classes. No more, no less.
haha says you, you have brain damage? you forget your thoughtalk ? and us steamrolling you ? if u want 1vs1 name a time. freakin new scrub tough talking, meh piece of shit.
Bitches, bitches! Calm your eggs! Take it to the dueling den and get it over with.(click to show/hide)
Rufio you a crybaby?
yes yes, but i still think archery is to powerfull
I think polestagger on sideswing is too powerful.