Nerf Couched!

[BlindGuy]

Its true, only the armoured horses would tip the 2k lb mark. But ONE THOUSAND POUNDS OF HORSE is still a lot of horse, i agree with his sentiment.

[mcdeath]

I hate cav just as much as the next person if not more but at the moment I feel they are perfectly balenced and no changes are nessicary. The fact that your complaining over a couch is pathetic because it is meant to 1 hit ppl

[Cup1d]

Its true, only the armoured horses would tip the 2k lb mark. But ONE THOUSAND POUNDS OF HORSE is still a lot of horse, i agree with his sentiment.

Medieval horse weight about 800-1100lb. Armor for horse weigh 80-140lbs. Tell us little more about 2k lb armored horse.
Also let's compare this horse with Elephant. Elephant weight - 4000-4500lb.

[Haze_The_Hobo]

imo couches are abit OP.. if you do them right there is basically only 1 way to not get hit by the couch and you can't even reach the horse/rider unless you have a very long weapon

This. We need to have roll feature, so couched can be dodged in two ways. 

Nice conversation going on here, keep it up. This poll was ment to raise the heat.

[CrazyCracka420]

I wouldn't mind seeing a cav limit of 20 or 25%.  15% would be too low.

Think of it this way.  If you're putting together a 60 man army would you want 1 out of 5 people on horse?  I'd probably want 1 out of 4 people on horse.  So when there's 120 people on the server and 25 cavalry total for both teams, I'd say that's not too many cavalry on the map.  Even though it may "feel" like there's a lot.

Last night I was on a team with 16 cavalry, but a lot of them are rouncys and not really dedicated cavalry.  But it seemed like quite a bit. That being said, you have ways to avoid cav, don't run around in the open without some pikes or lances near you. 

[BADPLAYERold]

Unless the player has athletics and pays attention.

uhh not true really, most players don't know how to couch correctly and they do it in a way that makes them think couching is useless.
if you couch the "right" way it's actually quite hard to dodge the couch and almost impossible to outreach it unless with a very long weapon awlpike length+.

[Jarlek]

uhh not true really, most players don't know how to couch correctly and they do it in a way that makes them think couching is useless.
if you couch the "right" way it's actually quite hard to dodge the couch and almost impossible to outreach it unless with a very long weapon awlpike length+.

No. You are wrong. There is no "right" way to couch. It sucks and is suicide. That's the end of it. Stop spreading this bullshit.

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THE FUCK, DUDE? DON'T TELL THEM!

[BlindGuy]

Medieval horse weight about 800-1100lb.

No no, thats the weight of bullshit you spout when you make up figures based on the air produced by your own ass.

[bredeus]

I guess you tested it by your hands  Blind one ;)

[Cup1d]

No no, thats the weight of bullshit you spout when you make up figures based on the air produced by your own ass.

Ok. You can continue to live in juvenile dreamland, like first 12 year's old guy. I like those forum «specialists» with 2000lb horses, 20lb flamberges, 5000lb arbalests and so on.

[BlindGuy]

So Cupid: horses have DOUBLED in weight since they were being bred for their size and strengh and in battle?

[Rumblood]

Here you arguing bitches, if its on Wikipedia it must be true. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_in_warfare

Also, don't use Bing for shit. I asked it how much a Destrier weighs and it gave back a fullpage of links to how much a fucking Kardashian or a Beyonce weighs. 

[BlindGuy]

From that wiki: I know wiki is as scientific as licking paint to see if its dry but:

Heavy-weight

Large, heavy horses, weighing from 1,500 to 2,000 pounds (680 to 910 kg), the ancestors of today's draught horses, were used, particularly in Europe, from the Middle Ages onward.

Thats the horses. Now add the armour.

Thats for, as I said, the larger horses cupid. Now eat your words and rage cause you are chatting shit and cant do fuck all about it.

And now, back on topic: While it is NOT always possible to kill a cavman as he attemps to couch you, it is fairly easy to avoid his couch also, unless of course he catches you unaware, but if HE DOES catch you unaware, why do you care what killed you? Backstabbed is backstabbed, the result from both is dead.

UNLESS of course the crying is because you think that your ARMOUR should allow you to take a couch in the back and let you turn around and kill the guy, but if so: 1/ Cav have had so much taken from them, dont try to take their only nuke.

2/ Any discussions about being able to survive a couch belong in a thread about armour values.

[Rumblood]

Don't leave this out:

Some historians believe they may have carried the heaviest-armoured knights of the European Late Middle Ages though others dispute this claim, indicating that the destrier, or knight's battle horse, was a medium-weight animal

In other words, actual historians argue about it.

So argue about game balance and leave the history to historians to argue over 

[Bulzur]

No, but remove forcefield on horse caused by shield.

Too bad this option of the poll came late, it seems, since so many people are voting the "no, it's perfectly balanced".