Nerf Couched!

[Herkkutatti]

Today I saw an ally of mine be couched by a guy on a destrier. My ally was standing pretty much still, took it in the chest, but survived. I stood there dumbfolded, thinking "the FUCK did they do with couch damage?". Buff it.

Also useless poll is useless. Two options for "No, but increase damage to horse" but NO options for the simple, and pretty obvious choice "No, buff them". Even if you don't AGREE that it should be buffed, you'll have to agree that it should be in the poll. What we have no is a poll between "keep it as it is" and different variations of nerfing cav. Biased like a bawse!


PS: I like the "lance is 0slot, x% chance of breaking" idea.

i can survive couched lance, i got 7 if and 30 str with 58 body armor/52 head/53 leg ,no need to buff or nerf

[Argoth]

how many fucking time do I have to say it doesnt take much for a fucking 2,000 lb warhorse to knock your shit onto the fucking ground, get serious people, you are all acting like fucking idiots

[v/onMega]

Cavalary has never been a problem basiclly.

There was a short period when cav felt too strong, at the moment,
this class requires a lot of awareness and timing.

Nerf is a suggestion to laugh about. In every possible way.

L2P, really.

[Molly]

Funny when you're called an idiot by a guy using font-size 72 und bold... 

And to make it clear... I'd rather see them do damage but just being less in numbers. I dont wanna troll tbh but... maybe raise the upkeep? 

[Tomas]

I'm not sure I agree with what I am about to suggest but it could help

Limit Cav to 15% of each team.   First come first served. 

Vikingr does this (but with ranged) at the point you would normally choose your class on the menu screens.  If there aren't enough Inf already on the server then you can't pick Cav.  If you manage to pick Cav then you get to use a horse and can select any weapons.  Cav includes HAs and HCs

Any Cav player that picks Infantry should have their riding skill converted into athletics so they can still compete properly.  Like in Rageball.

Whenever the server is balanced it will do Cav and Inf seperately so that you don't have to fight for the Cav places after each round.  Just for each Map.

Finally specs should be automatically kicked from servers now the passwords have been removed.  Spend 5 mins as a spectator and you get auto kicked. So no hanging around waiting for the Cav slots to open whilst someone else could actually be fighting.

Do the above, and it might actually be a bit easier to balance Cav without having to worry about it becoming OP due to large numbers.

[Vexus]

Game balance > realism.

[Leshma]

Game balance > realism.

Always.

[BADPLAYERold]

imo couches are abit OP.. if you do them right there is basically only 1 way to not get hit by the couch and you can't even reach the horse/rider unless you have a very long weapon

[Argoth]

Any Cav player that picks Infantry should have their riding skill converted into athletics so they can still compete properly.  Like in Rageball.

there will be no reason for athletics then

[Mr_Oujamaflip]

I recently made a Cavalry alt, I'm only level 17 and I've gotten a few solid scores with it now I've actually been able to afford a horse, I'm using a rouncey and a light lance. From what I've experienced it feels like when I'm riding at low speeds I do too much damage but also receive too much damage, I'd like to see lance's general damage lowered but a bigger speed increase so riding flat out does similar damage to now, same thing would apply to recieving damage. I'd also like to see shield skill lowered in some way. It makes me lol when I attack the flank of a horse only to have it blocked by a shield facing entirely the wrong way. Perhaps give shields -2 shield skill when on horseback. I understand their necessity with 1h cav but with lancers I think they're a bit OP. I'd also like to see the bump width reduced on unarmoured horses because when I get clipped by the flank of the horse half of the time it didn't actually hit me, this in conjunction with low speed survivability should balance each other out.

Just rambling some ideas.

[rustyspoon]

imo couches are abit OP.. if you do them right there is basically only 1 way to not get hit by the couch and you can't even reach the horse/rider unless you have a very long weapon

Unless the player has athletics and pays attention.

[Leshma]

Athletics is gimped when its raining which is 80% of the time...

[Gurnisson]

Couching is mostly fine, though I'm not a fan of lance users managing to stop their couch by blocking. Only true couchers are the great lance cav. As for the damage on thrusts, I don't mind that too much either. I feel it's silly that a cav can do great damage while standing almost completely still, but it's not that much of a hassle. However, I would've liked if cav had to up the speed a bit to knockdown to make the bumping for allies a bit harder than an insta-win button.

[BlindGuy]

I dont get it. Cav is so weak now. I fucking love them, they are unable to instantly change direction, cannot fight or block half of themselves, get disabled whenever they move into anything at speed, and have NO way to block attacks to half of their model. Combine that with the pistake lance angle nerf, they are pathetic. L2P if you dont find killing lancers as infantry EASY: SURE they can charge you down, but since we dont play each round on perfectly flat maps with no terrain of any sort, its really not hard to use your most powerful weapon against them. THATS YOUR BRAIN. Use it.


Also: if you have walked/run into a place where they can rapetrain you, thats YOUR FAIL not cav being OP. Again, Brain, use it.

[Cup1d]

how many fucking time do I have to say it doesnt take much for a fucking 2,000 lb warhorse to knock your shit onto the fucking ground, get serious people, you are all acting like fucking idiots

2000lb horse live only in your imagination. Together with 5000lb horses and 10000lb horses.