Nerf Couched!

[Haze_The_Hobo]

[Glyph]

As the topic says, i request nerf on cavalrys alternative attack, couched lance.

Or then nerf their speed bonus uber damage with primary attack.

I think it is very unfair that lancing cavalry has 2 very very effetive attacks, couched always 1 hits, Heavy Lance strike very often 1 hits.

And as many people have seen in the past months, cavalry numbers has been overwhelming, it ain't hard to think why.

If not nerf attacks, i ask to raise damage done to horses, so they also die in 1 hit.

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What is the point of wearing armor, if you die in the same amount of hits anyways?

if any lancer attack should be nerfed, it's the thrust, not the couching option, thrusting with a lance was thrown overboard in the later medieval times anyway because your arm isn't very sturdy when stretched. and i'm dedicated cav

[_Tak_]

Heavy lance has already been nerf  (Damage of heavy lance has been reduce after patch) , heavy horses got nerf very badly (They can die from one or 2 hit if it hit in the legs), what else do you want? Please stop making useless threads just because you got raped by Cav, what a hobo

If not nerf attacks, i ask to raise damage done to horses, so they also die in 1 hit.

You must be one of the dumbass who didn't notice the difference after the patch, all horses can actually die from 1 hit now (To the legs), why don't you try suicide charging for 30 rounds and see how all horses can get 1 hit-instant death? Plate charger cannot go solo anymore, those heavy horses are only good against ranged and suck versus infantry

I play cav with my alt and i think it is way too easy and way too powerful

: Not everyone is good at lancing , if you think couch lance is OP why don't you try the build of 12/33 with 0 PS to see how OP you are? You will probably get 1 shoted by ranged or melee players. Couching is kinda like a backup and it is not a main weapon of lancers, thrusting is. THIS IS MOUNT AND BLADE , CAV IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE CLASS IN CRPG

BTW here is another useless thread you have made: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,28576.0.html

Fail thread is fail : http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,27395.0.html

Edit: most of the time when i couched someone they still surrive, but then my bump kills them.

[Old_Sir_Agor]

i suggest cav can hit with lance only in right side, not this unrealistic lance move in left thru horse head !!!!

[Leshma]

Heavy lance has already been nerf, heavy horses got nerf very badly, what else do you want?

I want to see shield forcefield removed while you're on horse so I can kill you without having to chop off your horses legs

[Vexus]

I know people think couching is fine but yesterday a guy with 11 riding and a couch only spear proved it's not so "weak" or "THAT risky" as people make it look like.

This guy kept on getting kills after kills and having 11 riding made him able to escape everyone. He was almost all the time at the top 5 in kills and even if he had 2-3 PS at most thanks to the couching high damage he wasn't so "weak".

I don't think couching should be removed but it definitely needs a penalty if used.

[_Tak_]

I know people think couching is fine but yesterday a guy with 11 riding and a couch only spear proved it's not so "weak" or "THAT risky" as people make it look like.

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Well who is this guy you mention yesterday? This is the screenshot of me yesterday lol

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Couching is not overpowered, it is very risky too, with these builds you can get one shot from throwing / arbalest, also i do not use heavy lance

[Vexus]

Zoomzoom on eu_1.

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Like I said, I'm not proposing a damage nerf or anything but stating that there should be some drawback on couching which currently there ISN'T (You can stop the couch whenever you want, so no you can block.). The crossbow while very powerful it has many drawbacks. It's the only weapon that can break, get's severe damage/accuracy loss during the rain (40% of crpg maps)  and slow ass reloading.

[Haze_The_Hobo]

Heavy lance has already been nerf, heavy horses got nerf very badly, what else do you want? Please stop making useless threads just because you got raped by Cav

I play cav with my alt and i think it is way too easy and way too powerful. I can even make hybrid 1h cav with shield and heavy lance on top, that thing is killer even unmounted.

P.S. MODIFIED POLL, VOTES RESETED PLEASE REVOTE!

[Cup1d]

i suggest cav can hit with lance only in right side, not this unrealistic lance move in left thru horse head !!!!

Have you ever seen how it's working IRL?
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On the other hand lances should be breakable (50% chance at every hit) 0 slot weapons.

I know people think couching is fine but yesterday a guy with 11 riding and a couch only spear proved it's not so "weak" or "THAT risky" as people make it look like.
This guy kept on getting kills after kills and having 11 riding made him able to escape everyone. He was almost all the time at the top 5 in kills and even if he had 2-3 PS at most thanks to the couching high damage he wasn't so "weak".
I don't think couching should be removed but it definitely needs a penalty if used.

AFAIK your powerstrike do not affect «Couche» damage. Only your speed and base damage of weapon do this «wonders». So build with 11 riding and hard to kill horse is very well suited for 50\3 results.

[Cup1d]

And you do not need «high level» char for this.

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 12
Agility: 33
Hit points: 47
Skills to attributes: 20
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 0
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 11
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 114
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

[obitus]

Buff cavalry

[Haze_The_Hobo]

Buff cavalry

I think this is kinda same with No, it is perfectly in balance.

 

[rustyspoon]

And you do not need «high level» char for this.

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 12
Agility: 33
Hit points: 47
Skills to attributes: 20
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 0
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 11
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 114
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

The problem with a build like this though (also what makes it balanced) is that a stiff breeze could kill you. You need to get relative close to lance which puts you in range of archers, xbows, throwers, pikes, etc. Every one of those have the potential of 1-shotting you as you approach. Especially 'cause you'll be moving pretty damn fast with 11 riding.

[Cup1d]

The problem with a build like this though (also what makes it balanced) is that a stiff breeze could kill you. You need to get relative close to lance which puts you in range of archers, xbows, throwers, pikes, etc. Every one of those have the potential of 1-shotting you as you approach. Especially 'cause you'll be moving pretty damn fast with 11 riding.

Yes, but also with this speed you can choose unaware targets. And 70% of players is unaware. Reloading xbowers, aiming archers, charging shielders etc...
And this speed is very good if you prefer Boom-zoom tactics - only possible tactics with great lance.