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Title: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 04:42:55 pm
A FUE NAMED RICKY

Hey guys this is ricky, some of you might know me as 777, others archer or cav. I tend to have strait forward names  :P
So let me explain what i did first. About 1 month ago, i have not been counting i decided to fall under the influence of friends and at the same time be very stupid, (i am not trying to put blame on anyone or make excuses for my actions). You might know kaoklai, he is the last black-rose. So we were on the HoC server one day in like a 5 person battle we were just messing around. So everyone left except me, kaoklai and then my other friend allers. Kaoklai decided to show us how to get a free x5 , he voted poll 5 bots on each team, and he told me to stand completely still and not press anything, and he (qml) me and i guess if your afk or something and it works within 30 seconds you get a free multiplier. I had no idea what a qml was until this day. So kaoklai stayed on for about 1-2 hours with free x5 or that's at least what he told me i have no evidence except the steam messages. So the next day , i was very close to retiring, so i decided to jump on the HoC server when no one was on, and out of my own stupidity without thinking i decided to try it out myself and use an x5 for about 30-40 minutes. The worst thing about this is that i dragged in my friends , egad and dino. I got them to let me qml them, luckily meow was nice enough to unban them a while ago. So i stayed on the HoC server for about 40 minutes , i think it was around 300k XP i got for free. Then i thought to myself, what if someone comes into the server and sees my score 73-0 because bots are one, and me having a x5. but i was to stupid to think of that 40 minutes ago when i was messaging egad and dino on the server how safe it is, because no one will find out. Kaoklai told me on steam it would be impossible for a admin/dev to catch us because they don't know we have an x5 ( but again my own stupidity, i should have realized that getting a free x5 for 40 min is obviously a fucking death trap). This was more of anxiety and actually seeing if there was a way to get around the crpg system. After that , i did not do it again, and there was a whole day of time before i got unbanned, and i could have been on there getting free xp, but i was scared to death. So the next day, i about 7pm my time, i logged onto crpg, and pressed connect on na_community. "YOU ARE BANNED FROM THIS SERVER" came up, and i think i had an idea why  :shock: . So i quickly message kaoklai saying, are u sure we cant be caught for the qml stuff, and he responded yes, i told his i was banned from all servers, but he assured me it was for something else because no one else was banned at that moment except me.

Again not anyone else fault but my own stupidity, i go on irc chat and i start lying to meow about everything, and tell him i have no idea about HoC server (this was very stupid and i want to say im sorry meow, lying to a dev that has full access to the logs honestly was the stupidest thing i could ever do). so i understood he knew, so i asked him if i could start over, and i started to tell him the truth, but it was really stupid to lie, and it taught me a valuable lesson.

So , i basically argued with meow that it was not my fault, but kaoklai's (stupid, i know now that it was my own fault, and i have to take responsibility for my action, no matter what anyone says, if kaoklai jumped in a fire i wouldn't also, if he cheats i should come to my senses not to, so this is 100% MY FAULT)

So the next day. ME, KAOKLAI , ALLERS, DINO, AND EGAD WERE perma banned , all of us freaking out because we had looms, high gens, and our nice builds. So i took the blame for what happened immediately , i told them if they stayed banned, its my fault , and i would buy them new accounts and grind xp to retire and get them all their looms back. So kaoklai decided to go talk to meow ( kaoklai is the most mature out of all of us, he did most of the talking with moew, and sort of formed a relationship with moew, showing him hes a nice guy, which is think helped kaoklai alot) so he told kaoklai the ban would be atleast 3 months because there were a few russians that did the same thing except they qml for 40 gens worth of looms. So he suggested to buy new acounts because the investigation for the others has not started even after 3 months.

So me and allers went ahead and bought new accounts, along with kaoklai a week later, and dino a week later.

So now, it has been 1 month , and last week , kaoklai got unbaned, but me and allers stay banned.

The reason i as banned still, is because on my new acount i caused drama, because the leader of LL Killer_Flowers scammed me out of the looms my friend who quit the game gave me , so i made a thread. (And im sorry for causing drama where i should have just kept low and stfu)

So this is not really an unban essay , apposed to me apologizing to the devs/admins/players . What i did was completely unacceptable and was very stupid. And i would like to say I AM TRULY SORRY FOR MY ACTIONS AND WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR A SECOND CHANCE

I know for some people, they where happy because of my ban, i will admit i was a hardcore market player, i basically played the market way more than i did play the game. and i annoyed some people.

I have never been banned before, except the one time i died in the begining of a round, then re-entered but that was in the first days of me playing, and i was unaware of the rule. I have been scammed once before, but again this was because i played the market way to much. AND YES I WILL ADMIT TO WHAT HAPPENED WHEN I WAS IN THE HAVEN CLAN. a bunch of no good trolls offered me some gold in crpg if i would buy them a 20 dollar game on steam , and again this was when i first started playing, and i had no idea of the rule. (I ADMITTED THIS TO MEOW, AND BRAEDON THAT I BOUGHT GOLD IN CRPG FOR MONEY IN RL. 200K ) and they forgave me.

I know what moew did was only his job, and i thank him for teaching me a valuable lesson , not only in crpg, but in life. if you cheat kinds, you will be fucked basically. And im sorry again to everyone , cheating was not fair to you guys, i should have earned that xp not cheat.

I know alot of you will laugh at this essay, because of the lack of grammar. but i have not been American for long, English is not my first language. (DONT THINK OF THIS AN UNBAN ESSAY, BUT AN APOLOGY LETTER. and i hope i get good comments, and show the admins/meow that im not a bad guy, and im trully sorry and i would love a second chance.)

This essay was strait out of my heart  :)
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Lamk on March 12, 2012, 05:18:44 pm
I'm sure he will not do it again
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Sergee on March 12, 2012, 05:21:07 pm
UNBAN RICKY
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Blade on March 12, 2012, 05:23:46 pm
Hell give him another chance, people need to learn from their mistakes just as I learned from mine.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: BADPLAYERold on March 12, 2012, 05:24:36 pm
I think he should be unbanned, he made a mistake but has taken full responsibility for it and seems to be telling the truth when he says he won't do anything like it again. Everyone deserves a 2nd chance.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Allers on March 12, 2012, 05:26:18 pm
Hell give him another chance, people need to learn from their mistakes just as I learned from mine.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Meow on March 12, 2012, 05:28:19 pm
I told him at least three times that an essay before it's decided if he gets an essay ban or stays permabanned will do nothing so I'm pretty sure so far he learned nothing.

Also we did not "forgive" you for buying stuff with rl money/games but I told you that I will not ban you 6 month after it happened because someone brought it up against you when he got pissed.

Also there was no proof.

Just saying since you always seem to turn that one around as if it was ok for you to do so from our side and still did not get that it was not.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 05:29:16 pm
^ i said in the essay its not an unban essay? this is me saying sorry to the community. i included that about 3 times. this is to apologies.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: LUBU on March 12, 2012, 05:30:29 pm
about 1,350 words of sorrow, i hate writing papers for school but you do so for cRPG, nice x]
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Meow on March 12, 2012, 05:31:11 pm
^ i said in the essay its not an unban essay? this is me saying sorry to the community. i included that about 3 times. this is to apologies.

Then it is the completely wrong forum.

Also might wanna read my edit in the last post.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 05:32:56 pm
Then it is the completely wrong forum.

Also might wanna read my edit in the last post.

oh ok, so where i do i post it, or could u move this to the write thing, i did include at-least 3-4 times in the essay that its an apology.


Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Meow on March 12, 2012, 05:40:40 pm
oh ok, so where i do i post it, or could u move this to the write thing, i did include at-least 3-4 times in the essay that its an apology.

No worries, didn't bother reading it.

Just randomly saw the RL money stuff and thought I should clarify that it was in no way ok nor forgiven.

Moving this to general discussion.

No need to comment "he should be unbanned" and stuff since this is not an essay about getting unbanned.

Decision on perma ban is still pending.

Feel free to write stuff like "I accept your apology." since it seems that is what he wanted to do with this :wink:

Edit: After reading it - might wanna make sure the information flow between you and the other guys works, obviously either you or kaoklai got something very very wrong about you still being banned.

Guess the information flow between you and the others did not work that well.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 05:42:22 pm
ok moew thanks. sorry for confusing you with that. if you could enable comments i would appreciate it, i would love to get comments, bad or good, hell i would even like a poll. i honestly just want to see what people think. thanks

edit: im also done with crpg untill the decision, and wont be on irc bothering anymore lol

Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Allers on March 12, 2012, 05:45:10 pm
Can i get one question answered? --- What is the point of a permaban from a admins view?
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Gonreipu on March 12, 2012, 05:48:40 pm
This member of the community accepts your apology
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Meow on March 12, 2012, 05:51:36 pm
Can i get one question answered? --- What is the point of a permaban from a admins view?

Removing people from the mod that we do not want in the community?
Like people that exploit and invite their friends to exploit with them, then lie about it when being called out for it.

Or people that manage to get banned alot, and start using a second account to avoid those bans, especially if it is presumably not their own account.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Allers on March 12, 2012, 05:53:45 pm
Come on say the names

Also-- When did you start this mod meow?








z0rz
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Stabby_Dave on March 12, 2012, 05:58:06 pm
Out of curiosity, is English your first language Ricky? I'd assume not but im not sure.

Even if not, you could at least spell Meow's name right.

Aside from that, it seems you've learnt you lesson and the apology seems genuine.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Malaclypse on March 12, 2012, 06:00:24 pm
Ricky is a straightforward trader, and overall a decent kid who happens to get mixed up with some more rotten apples due to his naivety.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: B3RS3RK on March 12, 2012, 06:01:34 pm
I think this was a very good text, and in my personal humble opinion you should be unbanned.I know this is not an unban essay thread, just stating my opinion.It won´t matter but I post it nonetheless.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: polkafranzi on March 12, 2012, 06:03:52 pm
lying to a dev that has full access to the logs honestly was the stupidest thing i could ever do).

I dunno man, all those times you got scammed were pretty damn out of your own stupidity...i'd say they are up there with telling porkies to devs.

If I was in charge i'd delete your 2nd key, take 50% of your looms and gold from your original key and then unban it. :)
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 06:05:27 pm
I dunno man, all those times you got scammed were pretty damn out of your own stupidity...i'd say they are up there with telling porkies to devs.

If I was in charge i'd delete your 2nd key, take 50% of your looms and gold from your original key and then unban it. :)

well we all know your the kindest person out there lol ( love u to)
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ganner on March 12, 2012, 06:09:11 pm
My question in all this...

Who the hell is Moew?
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Miley on March 12, 2012, 06:13:27 pm
I'm sorry for how this essay is written LOL.

Unban Ricky and Allers. They won't do it again; I know it!
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: dado on March 12, 2012, 06:14:07 pm
My question in all this...

Who the hell is Moew?
ban moew !!
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 06:14:41 pm
ban moew !!


i lol'd
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Meow on March 12, 2012, 06:22:30 pm
Sounds like my evil twin had a triangle relationship with them, I support this ban!
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Miley on March 12, 2012, 06:24:52 pm
Sounds like my evil twin had a triangle relationship with them, I support this ban!

I saw your avatar on google images last night... not as original as I thought!
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Meow on March 12, 2012, 06:28:09 pm
Well guess you did not read the feedback thread where I got it from then :mrgreen:
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Tyrell on March 12, 2012, 06:28:53 pm
Using our server for your ill-fated deeds will not be forgotten!
But seriously, because you tried to bullshit our way out of it and drag one of the Hounds down with you gets you no forgiveness from me.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Gnjus on March 12, 2012, 06:29:40 pm
Also-- When did you start this mod meow?

Much later then the most of em but he crept into the admins quarters with his false smile of decency. I love it how people see him as a calm and helpful person while we witnessed on more then one occasion him getting enraged much faster then an admin should be (Didn't take him long to show his real face once he grabbed his admin powers). True example of how false decency (and ass-licking) does wonders and gets you far (hell, just like in real life).   :wink:
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Allers on March 12, 2012, 06:29:52 pm
look who i saw NOT DOING THEIR JOB :

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Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 12, 2012, 06:31:43 pm
Oh wow Allers is involved in some shady, outright cheating, shit??

Color me shocked, he always seemed like such a nice, honorable guy.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Meow on March 12, 2012, 06:43:20 pm
Much later then the most of em but he crept into the admins quarters with his false smile of decency. I love it how people see him as a calm and helpful person while we witnessed on more then one occasion him getting enraged much faster then an admin should be (Didn't take him long to show his real face once he grabbed his admin powers). True example of how false decency (and ass-licking) does wonders and gets you far (hell, just like in real life).   :wink:

*yawn*

I liked you back when you were decent at trolling =(
Then you became one of the randoms.
Now you obviously even fail to understand what I mainly do - it sure isn't being a server admin.

Also brownnosing sounds like it would be one of your strengths.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Gnjus on March 12, 2012, 06:49:09 pm
bla bla random bla

The point is - I'm not trolling at all. I remember you from the days when you weren't admin yet, always so damn nice & friendly & pleasant but as soon as you got your much desired adminship i saw a few outbursts that showed your true form. You can fool those ignorant developers maybe but some of us know exactly what kind of person you are and what we can expect from you (and some already felt your "generosity").  :wink:

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Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 06:52:28 pm
I feel like this thread is getting way off subject. Bandits make your own thread, I have my own problems to deal with this one. And leave meow aka moew alone he has enough stuff to deal with


Fixed it I fail
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 12, 2012, 06:52:40 pm
I've seen Meow get defensive and even talk shit once in a great while, but he seems like one of the more level-headed admins, and generally seems like he's trying to help players when he's in a position to do so.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: polkafranzi on March 12, 2012, 06:53:17 pm
meow aka meow

?
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 06:54:23 pm
Using our server for your ill-fated deeds will not be forgotten!
But seriously, because you tried to bullshit our way out of it and drag one of the Hounds down with you gets you no forgiveness from me.

I understand, I hope in future I can get on your better side.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Allers on March 12, 2012, 06:57:44 pm
z0rz
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Meow on March 12, 2012, 07:12:04 pm
The point is - I'm not trolling at all. I remember you from the days when you weren't admin yet, always so damn nice & friendly & pleasant but as soon as you got your much desired adminship i saw a few outbursts that showed your true form.

So my true form are outbursts and not the rest of the time?
Makes sense. Would also explain some other problems that came up lately.

I mainly remember getting banned before I started dev stuff and then later became admin.
Must have forgotten about that whole being nice thing, I blame my memory.
Still love trash talk - admin rights didn't cure that, I just try to contain it.

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Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: HELM on March 12, 2012, 07:14:16 pm
This letter is permeated with despair, almost like a junky unsure of when or where the next fix is coming from. As much as I would like to think this is sincere, there something about dealing with online delinquents  that just leaves a putrid taste in my mouth and therefore makes me not want to accept this as an apology to the community of cRPG. Conscious exploiting is something someone with no respect for the devs would do. I'm quite certain it will happen again in a more refined and less detectible fashion.

I trust Meow and his cohort will make a reasonable decision no matter the outcome.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Penguin on March 12, 2012, 07:29:37 pm
Quick question: Why not remove all their money and looms as punishment for what they did? And I mean everyone involved in this fiasco. Such measures would ensure they would not try it again. Keeping them banned, and possibly unbanning them in the future would teach them nothing, let them live as a peasant before they reenter crpg society!
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 07:44:32 pm
Quick question: Why not remove all their money and looms as punishment for what they did? And I mean everyone involved in this fiasco. Such measures would ensure they would not try it again. Keeping them banned, and possibly unbanning them in the future would teach them nothing, let them live as a peasant before they reenter crpg society!


Thats easy for you to say. You where not the one who grinded about 20 gens and have over 15 looms , why would loosing everything over 300k xp do. I clearly learnt my lesson. Make me start my gen over I'm nearly level 31. But lossing like 9 million gold of things over 300k xp and like 10k gold . Idk dude sounds harsh to me..
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 07:46:38 pm
This letter is permeated with despair, almost like a junky unsure of when or where the next fix is coming from. As much as I would like to think this is sincere, there something about dealing with online delinquents  that just leaves a putrid taste in my mouth and therefore makes me not want to accept this as an apology to the community of cRPG. Conscious exploiting is something someone with no respect for the devs would do. I'm quite certain it will happen again in a more refined and less detectible fashion.

I trust Meow and his cohort will make a reasonable decision no matter the outcome.

I understand where you are coming from. But you are being harsh and judging me.. If u get to know me I'm sure your opinion will change
 


Edit: I have also been banned for a month
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on March 12, 2012, 07:48:52 pm
Now, I'm merely a piece of deliciously fried pig meat cut into slathers, but it seems to me like responsibility is not being accepted here, despite what people may think. I could easily type out an apology to every person I've ever flipped out on in my entire life (if I could remember the times) while meanwhile in my head not a single fuck is given. If I was really adamant to apologize, I'd accept whatever punishment I was given. As far as I can see, rules were broken while the perpetrators were of knowledge that they existed. And don't get me wrong, I think Ricky is an okay dude, I think Allers isn't as bad as they say, and Kaoklai is pretty chill some of the time. The other two I don't know well enough to say anything about. But seriously, there are rules for a reason. If we bend them for every person who breaks one then there is no point at all to having them.
Now I do have more to say on the topic, but I got bored reading through it, so I doubt anyone else would be excited to see it, so I'll leave it at that, because what I say literally has no sway on anything no-how.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 07:52:13 pm
Now, I'm merely a piece of deliciously fried pig meat cut into slathers, but it seems to me like responsibility is not being accepted here, despite what people may think. I could easily type out an apology to every person I've ever flipped out on in my entire life (if I could remember the times) while meanwhile in my head not a single fuck is given. If I was really adamant to apologize, I'd accept whatever punishment I was given. As far as I can see, rules were broken while the perpetrators were of knowledge that they existed. And don't get me wrong, I think Ricky is an okay dude, I think Allers isn't as bad as they say, and Kaoklai is pretty chill some of the time. The other two I don't know well enough to say anything about. But seriously, there are rules for a reason. If we bend them for every person who breaks one then there is no point at all to having them.
Now I do have more to say on the topic, but I got bored reading through it, so I doubt anyone else would be excited to see it, so I'll leave it at that, because what I say literally has no sway on anything no-how.



I know rules where broke, that's why I am baned, been banned for 1 month. I'm on break from school now and would like to play a little more now, and would love to play on my account. I'm merely apolosing for what I did.nothing else
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on March 12, 2012, 07:56:44 pm
I know rules where broke, that's why I am baned, been banned for 1 month. I'm on break from school now and would like to play a little more now, and would love to play on my account. I'm merely apolosing for what I did.nothing else
I find those two statements conflicting. One says you want to play more, and one implies you are only apologizing and don't expect anything out of it.

EDIT: I guess I'm being a bit of a dick here, I've had a shitty day, I apologize.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: SeQuel on March 12, 2012, 08:12:33 pm
Just yesterday you tried to trade me your Red Gambeson for my MW Heavy Lance that your friend was holding for you o.O

You still have looms...some how.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: HELM on March 12, 2012, 08:15:52 pm
I understand where you are coming from. But you are being harsh and judging me.. If u get to know me I'm sure your opinion will change
 


Edit: I have also been banned for a month

One judges another by their actions. Answer one question honestly for me.

If you could have gotten away with it, would have you ever admitted being guilty of doing so to Meow or another Dev?

Now, no matter how you answer this question, the fact is that if you were to answer Yes, then no one will believe you, and should you answer No, then you are admitting that you are an exploiter and my judgment was spot on.

Either way, your trustworthiness is tarnished for an undetermined amount of time.

I find those two statements conflicting. One says you want to play more, and one implies you are only apologizing and don't expect anything out of it.

EDIT: I guess I'm being a bit of a dick here, I've had a shitty day, I apologize.

Also this.. Confirming my junky analogy. Willingness to say anything to get what you want.

Look, I understand you want to play the game, It's a fun game, and you know what, most gamers have exploited bugs and things in all sorts of games. I don't think your judgement should be a per-ma-ban, but I think you should just take your current ban like a man. Go play something else for the time being.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 08:16:09 pm
I find those two statements conflicting. One says you want to play more, and one implies you are only apologizing and don't expect anything.

EDIT: I guess I'm being a bit of a dick here, I've had a shitty day, I apologize.

Ah it's fine I deserve it all. Obviously though I want to play, if you where banned for month then get off school you would also. So yes I would love a second chance but at the same time I honestly want to say sorry to the community for what I did. Stay banned or not I will feel the same way. I Am sorry. This may or may not help me with the ban but either way I feel e same way. So I guess it is conflicting, but I mean it in way that they interconnect 
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 08:18:32 pm
Just yesterday you tried to trade me your Red Gambeson for my MW Heavy Lance that your friend was holding for you o.O

You still have looms...some how.

It's all my friends. I have nothing to do at 10pm, so I helped him trade some stuff since I have around 200 cRPG players' on my steam. I also feel your comment was very lugubrious   
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: AreTreble on March 12, 2012, 08:19:20 pm
I'm sorry to hear about your ban, ricky, and I believe you are truly sorry; I know I'd be.

However, as a member of the cRPG community, I have to agree with the admins call... you took advantage of the community by abusing the system and, if I'm understanding correctly, you lied about it, thereby taking advantage of the devs, and then you attempted to implicate your fellow clansmen--very disgraceful.

We all make mistakes, but lessons are best learned when the punishment serves as reminder.
 
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 08:21:59 pm
One judges another by their actions. Answer one question honestly for me.

If you could have gotten away with it, would have you ever admitted being guilty of doing so to Meow or another Dev?

Now, no matter how you answer this question, the fact is that if you were to answer Yes, then no one will believe you, and should you answer No, then you are admitting that you are an exploiter and my judgment was spot on.

Either way, your trustworthiness is tarnished for an undetermined amount of time.



See all this is a misconception, I exploited the one day, then got caught the next day In the evening. Why was I not on the server getting a free x5 for 5+ hours. I came to my senses and thought what would happen. So the 40 min I was doing I thought I would not have been caught and through my misjudgment and through bad influences from friends I tried getting out of it.

Also this.. Confirming my junky analogy. Willingness to say anything to get what you want.

Look, I understand you want to play the game, It's a fun game, and you know what, most gamers have exploited bugs and things in all sorts of games. I don't think your judgement should be a per-ma-ban, but I think you should just take your current ban like a man. Go play something else for the time being.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Boerenlater on March 12, 2012, 08:24:03 pm
After reading all this only one thing strikes my mind.

HOW THE FUCK CAN PEOPLE BECOME ALL CRAZY OVER THIS? ITS JUST A GAME
Seriously cheating to get more gold and xp? :?
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 08:24:13 pm
Shit sorry  my phone sucks for this stuff I'm sure u can figure out where my comment is.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Tzar on March 12, 2012, 08:25:20 pm
na....
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 08:37:29 pm
U know most of the poeple in this community know me quite well. I really want a response to this thread After you actually read the essay

I forgive you you deserve a second chance
Or
Screw off cheater, I do not forgive you


Good or bad I will accept it, this is why I made it, all of you are misunderstanding the point of this. I'm trying to apologize for my malicious deeds. Either accept or deny  :) thanks again to everyone who has or will post
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: polkafranzi on March 12, 2012, 08:39:17 pm
Obviously though I want to play, if you where banned for month then get off school you would also. Stay banned or not I will feel the same way.

The thing is Ricky, you can play cos you have a 2nd key, with about 5 +3's that some guy gave you...so...it's really not all that bad.  So, just forget the banned key and keep on enjoyin' cRPG.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 08:48:40 pm
I gave all those looms back a while ago and deleted the acount.....
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Earthdforce on March 12, 2012, 08:50:54 pm
People play on the HoC server? (yes, that is all I got from this :P)
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Sergee on March 12, 2012, 09:00:01 pm
I HEART MEOW! HE SAVED ME FROM STF! MY HERO
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 12, 2012, 09:09:29 pm
Read the thing, IMO, remove everything he has (looms don't mater shit, OMG 3+ dmg! This is SO much better than my previous 40 dmg!), then unban him...
...he'll just get/got/I dunno another account anywayz...
...exploiting is bad...
...RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT BITCHES!!!
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Kafein on March 12, 2012, 09:11:11 pm
My general rule about that sort of thing is that apologizing after being caught has very little value.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 09:18:51 pm
Just follow the format lol

I forgive or I dont
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 09:21:18 pm
My general rule about that sort of thing is that apologizing after being caught has very little value.

I know it does. But I learned my lesson, and idk man second chances are always nice. Not like I'm a reconed troll

And everyone who has posted thanks for your feedback
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Boerenlater on March 12, 2012, 09:21:45 pm
Ricky if you want a steady x5, just play Rageball. It isn't impossible to have a legit x5 for 30 minutes.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Malaclypse on March 12, 2012, 09:24:24 pm
I wasn't friends with Ricky before he was banned, and honestly didn't think much of him, not that I had much to go off. After having him on Steam and talking to him about his situation and in general, I think he's a good kid who made a mistake, and that he understands that. When I say kid, I really do mean kid, as in you know. Going to grade school or whatever, studying, etc. It's easy when you're younger to not really understand the implications of things like this until you're forced to, and losing the things you've worked hard for in a game you love seems like it would be more devastating when you're an early teen opposed to being twenty-something and playing the same game. Furthermore the gain from the exploit seems fairly minimal- I can make that amount of xp in a good night, and it didn't directly hurt other players- and he was punished for it.

Let's say, hypothetically, you managed to send a message from a future time to your present self, containing lottery numbers for the next days drawing. Would you use them, even though millions of people have to grind their whole lives to get that amount of xp?
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 09:24:51 pm
Ricky if you want a steady x5, just play Rageball. It isn't impossible to have a legit x5 for 30 minutes.


:P you prob won't believe this. But who cares

Honestly I did not exploit for the x5 , if it was for that I would much rather been on battle. The fact that my friend discovered a whole in cRPG and it worked amazed me and in the moment I thought it was cool, that's why I told lots of people about it. If it was for the xp I would have been on the sever exploiting all night and the whole next day. But I was not :(
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Penguin on March 12, 2012, 09:41:09 pm
Let's say, hypothetically, you managed to send a message from a future time to your present self, containing lottery numbers for the next days drawing. Would you use them, even though millions of people have to grind their whole lives to get that amount of xp?

Now let's say, hypothetically, you managed to find an exploit in the system and can fix the lottery numbers for next days drawing to whatever you set it to, would you use them, even though you have a chance of being caught and serving time?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 09:43:04 pm
Now let's say, hypothetically, you managed to find an exploit in the system and can fix the lottery numbers for next days drawing to whatever you set it to, would you use them, even though you have a chance of being caught and serving time?  :mrgreen:


Seriously dude read my last comment. If it was for the gold/xp Why was I only on there for less than n hour?
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Kafein on March 12, 2012, 09:44:56 pm
I know it does. But I learned my lesson, and idk man second chances are always nice. Not like I'm a reconed troll

And everyone who has posted thanks for your feedback

No hard feelings, I don't know you so that's pretty much everything I have to say about this issue :lol:
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Adrian on March 12, 2012, 09:51:33 pm
Apology not accepted, once a troll always a troll
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on March 12, 2012, 09:54:17 pm
bad idea to make this public, IMO. be nice with the admins, if they say wait, wait and things should settle.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: RandomDude on March 12, 2012, 10:04:10 pm
The point is - I'm not trolling at all. I remember you from the days when you weren't admin yet, always so damn nice & friendly & pleasant but as soon as you got your much desired adminship i saw a few outbursts that showed your true form. You can fool those ignorant developers maybe but some of us know exactly what kind of person you are and what we can expect from you (and some already felt your "generosity").  :wink:

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I have to say, Gnus, that Meow is a helpful guy and is regularly asked to sort stuff out and doesnt complain about it.

I am prone to bursts of rage too but I try not to let it affect what I do as an admin. Just saying this as an example that you can have good guys (like me, obv) who still rage.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: joey_bologna on March 12, 2012, 11:31:46 pm
Unban this man! But seriously Ricky is a good kid. He deserves a second chance more than a lot of trolls that get 3 or 4.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Oggrinsky on March 12, 2012, 11:41:10 pm
I forgive you Ricky  :D
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: B3RS3RK on March 12, 2012, 11:44:53 pm
look who i saw NOT DOING THEIR JOB :

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lololol pz III

That´s fucking bad.

Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Troyicide on March 12, 2012, 11:46:32 pm
typical all his clan mates say unban, most of the rest say ban. What is a perm ban mean now a days lol, plus I've seen this dude on another key before.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: buba on March 12, 2012, 11:46:39 pm
"i go on irc chat and i start lying to meow about everything, and tell him i have no idea about HoC server (this was very stupid and i want to say im sorry meow, lying to a dev that has full access to the logs honestly was the stupidest thing i could ever do).

Dont want to be a dick Ricky, since i dont know you.
But here you sound like you are sorry for getting caught lying.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 12, 2012, 11:50:11 pm
thanks for all the feed back guys appreciate it all bad or good.

I just have one comment to make. TROYSIDE i havent even been home the whole day . and bud most of my friends are about 80% of the NA population. i think hosp have enough of their own problems to deal with and don't need to get into this.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Torp on March 12, 2012, 11:57:47 pm
Playing with Ricky he has always seemed like a nice guy, and after talking to him I am convinced that he regrets what he did, he knows it was wrong and he won't do it again.
In my opinion he has had punishment enough and now deserves a second chance.

 - Torp
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Murchad on March 13, 2012, 12:05:33 am
Plz unban ricky he's a good kid, I have talked with him quite a bit.
I talked to him right after he got banned and he told me about the whole incident. He had never heard of the QML bug and thought it was something new
I told him to come clean and accept the consequenses.
now that he is doing that I hope the high powers of crpg have mercy on him.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Miley on March 13, 2012, 12:07:37 am
Meow is a very helpful person, and he's always answering my questions on irc when I go (or Shik). As far as being an admin, I don't know because I don't play on EU as much as I did in old cRPG days of course. But the few times he came on NA, he was nice and administered well. If there seriously was a problem with him, I think the developers would have surely taken away his adminship/developer(ship?).

As for the subject of the post--I read through all of the comments, and I see many people saying they shouldn't be unbanned [Allers and Ricky] for reasons that Kaoklai, Egad, and whoever else are guilty of as well, which is exploiting, etc. I understand that Ricky lied to a developer arguing his situation, which he totally should not have done, and I see how that will get him a much longer ban than the others. What did Allers do that made the ban (so far) last as long as Ricky's? Anyways, I think all of them should be unbanned sometime--definitely not permabanned.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Cyranule on March 13, 2012, 12:29:27 am
I HEART MEOW! HE SAVED ME FROM STF! MY HERO
I've heard of a few developers doing this for folks, that's just down right nice of them.


Seems like the guy is just a young kid who made some mistakes, then made some more mistakes.
Ricky77 having additional CD keys to play on really shouldn't even be acknowledged, just shows how much he loves this game.
A permanent ban just seems so harsh, something that should reserved for auto-blockers and the like.
 
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 12:35:08 am
cyranule.  if one day i get unbanned i will dress up like your avatar take a pic and put in on forum
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: King_of_the_Juice on March 13, 2012, 12:37:48 am
I think Ricky has learned his lesson and is sincere. Honestly, I meet ricky two days before he got banned. Seemed like an alright guy. He said LOL a bit much, but still nothing really wrong with him. I started talking to him on steam and realized that he just likes messing around a lot.

Ricky is a bit naive, and he made some stupid mistakes. I think he understands the reason why he got banned and why his actions were illegal. He seems to have learned his lesson from being banned. I understand why some people are reluctant to accept his apology, but I feel like he has changed and deserves a second chance.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: isatis on March 13, 2012, 12:41:41 am
My question in all this...

Who the hell is Moew?

Moew = Meow

HOW??

flip Meow = woem

upside down woem = Moew

simple!

and I accept your apologize Ricky.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 12:43:25 am
thank you. i appreciate all these feed backs / opinions good or bad its all helping me learn a lesson i need to learn.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Lizard_man on March 13, 2012, 12:48:09 am
Don't let this turn into another slap on the wrist for cheaters... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on March 13, 2012, 01:03:54 am
I accept your apology on behalf of myself. I do hope you did learn a real lesson. From my end Ricky has always been quiet a nice guy.

Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 01:08:10 am
Don't let this turn into another slap on the wrist for cheaters... :rolleyes:

i understand where you are coming from. trolls and scammers and cheaters dont deserve just to be unbanned. but i have been banned for a month and i understand what i did. second chances in my opinion are always good, they allow you to learn a lesson . if i ever did it again then obviously perma ban
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: LastKaze on March 13, 2012, 01:12:27 am
Apology not accepted, once a troll always a troll
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: B3RS3RK on March 13, 2012, 01:15:08 am
Moew = Meow

HOW??

flip Meow = woem

upside down woem = Moew

simple!

and I accept your apologize Ricky.

Illumi- fucking - nati.

It´s a conspiracy to keep ricky banned
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: PieParadox on March 13, 2012, 01:16:25 am
I think Ricky has learned his lesson and is sincere. Honestly, I meet ricky two days before he got banned. Seemed like an alright guy. He said LOL a bit much, but still nothing really wrong with him. I started talking to him on steam and realized that he just likes messing around a lot.

Ricky is a bit naive, and he made some stupid mistakes. I think he understands the reason why he got banned and why his actions were illegal. He seems to have learned his lesson from being banned. I understand why some people are reluctant to accept his apology, but I feel like he has changed and deserves a second chance.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Lizard_man on March 13, 2012, 01:22:15 am
i understand where you are coming from. trolls and scammers and cheaters dont deserve just to be unbanned. but i have been banned for a month and i understand what i did. second chances in my opinion are always good, they allow you to learn a lesson . if i ever did it again then obviously perma ban

Utter shite, you shouldn't have done it in the first place...
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 01:26:34 am
Utter shite, you shouldn't have done it in the first place...


dude did u even read my post. seriously i understand that. why do u think im asking for a second chance. but i understand your opinion and its ur opinion. so thanks for posting appreciate it.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Lizard_man on March 13, 2012, 01:30:26 am
The fact of the matter is, if you're unbanned, then other people won't think it's such a serious issue. You stay banned, people will think twice before using the QML cheat. I have no time for cheaters...
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Tanken on March 13, 2012, 01:32:18 am
I think Ricky has genuinely learned his lesson.


Back in LL what Ricky did was shitty and immature, but he has done a lot of "growing up" over the past few months and I think that is something that many players respect. Sure he doesn't necessarily always run around with the best crowd and his name is a little infamous among NA servers, but Ricky is doing better for himself and has made a considerable change in his behavior both in public and towards other players in private.


Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Arn De Gothia on March 13, 2012, 01:53:07 am
On one hand, we would all wish to have some leniency if we were involved in this situation. However, at my job, I'm liable for my work and effort. Punishment is swift if I err or do not behave to the standards asked of me.  My time is valuable (and everyone else who plays this game), and when I have the rare moment to play this game at length, I don't want to worry about exploiters preventing me from having fun, because I was not taking advantage of an exploit. While this apology seems somewhat sincere, in the end, this person wants to play this game. Whether he decides to immediately try to exploit is another question. My prediction is that a perma-ban from one's favorite game is pretty upsetting, and demands one's attention. Therefore, Ricky should be allowed to play, but only on parole. If there is any hint of any untoward behavior on his part, he is finished. While the rest of community (to some extent) has played by the rules, and get some leeway to make mistakes, Ricky has no wiggle room if he comes back.

That's my view on this.

Sorry if it's tldr.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 01:56:11 am
On one hand, we would all wish to have some leniency if we were involved in this situation. However, at my job, I'm liable for my work and effort. Punishment is swift if I err or do not behave to the standards asked of me.  My time is valuable (and everyone else who plays this game), and when I have the rare moment to play this game at length, I don't want to worry about exploiters preventing me from having fun, because I was not taking advantage of an exploit. While this apology seems somewhat sincere, in the end, this person wants to play this game. Whether he decides to immediately try to exploit is another question. My prediction is that a perma-ban from one's favorite game is pretty upsetting, and demands one's attention. Therefore, Ricky should be allowed to play, but only on parole. If there is any hint of any untoward behavior on his part, he is finished. While the rest of community (to some extent) has played by the rules, and get some leeway to make mistakes, Ricky has no wiggle room if he comes back.

That's my view on this.

Sorry if it's tldr.

I appreciate this post to the full extent . its exactly what i want, a second chance, and im very thankful that you understand that. thanks
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: sexthriller on March 13, 2012, 02:52:02 am
Ricky is a pretty cool Florida Broskie. It is unfortunate he did what he did, but this is clearly his favorite game and he has put a lot of time into it. It would really suck to get banned from this game, as it is fucking amazing.  Give the kid a second chance, hes a good guy, just a little young and has some growing up to do like we all did(or still do). UNBAN HE
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: ManOfWar on March 13, 2012, 03:30:39 am
I believe has learned his lesson


Give him a chance Meow, I am sure it will go fine


Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: dynamike on March 13, 2012, 03:45:45 am
A second chance starts with zero.

If you are truly sorry for what you did to the community you should have no problem taking a real fresh start.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Camaris on March 13, 2012, 03:48:29 am
I dont know how long you are banned but if you ever get unbanned the admins should make sure you got a big time before and lose all the shit you exploited.
Actually everything under 2-3 months would be a joke.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 03:52:15 am
I dont know how long you are banned but if you ever get unbanned the admins should make sure you got a big time before and lose all the shit you exploited.
Actually everything under 2-3 months would be a joke.

i honestly do now know what your commment means. i exploited for 40-50 min and got around 300k xp from it. i asked for a xp reduction for the whole gen . sorry is i understood your post wrong
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: micah243 on March 13, 2012, 03:54:46 am
Okay guys seriously... The guy messed up a month ago... A month is a long time to be banned for something. He is obviously sorry now for what he did and obviously knows that even if he wanted to try it again he would be caught. Are we forgetting that this mod is really not that large and we really need dedicated players? A one month ban is pretty damn severe regardless of what he did. I highly doubt that the experience he earned from that was as much as he could make during that month. And really if the guy is writing this that long after the fact, you have got to know that he is serious about this game. People make mistakes. A perma-ban is not a suitable punishment for a first offense when it is as minor as this was. If he was to do it again then yes, it would be appropriate to issue a perma-ban. Basically you have to look at the pros and cons of perma-banning this guy. I mean yes he cheated and that deserves to be punished and yes we need examples made, but I think a one month ban from a game is enough to cool anyone down. And if you ask me that sets a hell of an example. I mean how many people here have not exploited something in some game? Would you think it was appropriate to receive a permanent ban for your first offense related to the perma-ban?

Really I think it all comes down to the fact that there is no advantage to keeping the guy banned. We as a community lose out by losing one dedicated player, and, in a community as small as CRPG, that one player can really make a difference.


I rest my case.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 04:00:59 am
Okay guys seriously... The guy messed up a month ago... A month is a long time to be banned for something. He is obviously sorry now for what he did and obviously knows that even if he wanted to try it again he would be caught. Are we forgetting that this mod is really not that large and we really need dedicated players? A one month ban is pretty damn severe regardless of what he did. I highly doubt that the experience he earned from that was as much as he could make during that month. And really if the guy is writing this that long after the fact, you have got to know that he is serious about this game. People make mistakes. A perma-ban is not a suitable punishment for a first offense when it is as minor as this was. If he was to do it again then yes, it would be appropriate to issue a perma-ban. Basically you have to look at the pros and cons of perma-banning this guy. I mean yes he cheated and that deserves to be punished and yes we need examples made, but I think a one month ban from a game is enough to cool anyone down. And if you ask me that sets a hell of an example. I mean how many people here have not exploited something in some game? Would you think it was appropriate to receive a permanent ban for your first offense related to the perma-ban?

Really I think it all comes down to the fact that there is no advantage to keeping the guy banned. We as a community lose out by losing one dedicated player, and, in a community as small as CRPG, that one player can really make a difference.


I rest my case.

thanks man, i appreciate it. i really have learned my lesson and wont do this shit again, its just not worth it
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: micah243 on March 13, 2012, 04:16:20 am
No problem man. I just really feel perma-banning is more about admins showing there power and less about actually helping the community. I mean sure it can be helpful and necessary in some situations but punishing a reformed guy further is not helping anyone. Admins are there to help the community... Perma-banning doesnt do that... After someone suffers a one month ban they know that it is serious, and if done again will obviously result in them getting caught and perma-banned. Unless they are literally retarded.... And in that case you have to show the special kids SOME leniency.....
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 04:19:37 am
No problem man. I just really feel perma-banning is more about admins showing there power and less about actually helping the community. I mean sure it can be helpful and necessary in some situations but punishing a reformed guy further is not helping anyone. Admins are there to help the community... Perma-banning doesnt do that... After someone suffers a one month ban they know that it is serious, and if done again will obviously result in them getting caught and perma-banned. Unless they are literally retarded.... And in that case you have to show the special kids SOME leniency.....

welll i hope so man, its spring break 7 days left :P . but what ever choice meow makes i respect.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: KillerofFlowers on March 13, 2012, 04:20:12 am
A FUE NAMED RICKY
Killer_Flowers
Names KillerofFlowers...
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 04:21:10 am
Names KillerofFlowers...

my bad  :(
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Kaoklai on March 13, 2012, 04:48:51 am
Ricky was banned for exploiting for one hour in an empty server, to the tune of 300k xp.  He was banned about 30 hours later, that single hour being the only time he exploited.  Allers exploited even less, about 30 minutes.  Autoblockers using third party hacks, directly affecting gameplay and other players for orders of magnitude longer, were unbanned within a month.  I think there's this misconception that they were eagerly and gleefully taking advantage of the system to bypass the the game's intended direction.  It's simply not true and that they did not exploit more than the one time after being shown how, even when there was no hint of punishment, demonstrates that fact in no uncertain terms. 

I showed them the exploit, they tried it out for a while, and then they decided the mind-numbing boredom of babysitting bots every round was too much and went to battle.  In fact, I had to hassle them over Steam to even get them to join the server when I first told them about it.  I assumed a very clear leadership role in this ill-conceived endeavor, which, given my seniority and their youth, can be seen as a mitigating factor for them.

Maybe I'm missing some key bit of information or am too focused on legalistic notions of precedence (i.e. contrast to autoblockers), but I feel like a permaban is not warranted when the final decision is made (hasn't been yet). 

disclaimer: I'm friends with both of them and was banned (and unbanned) for QML abuse myself. 
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Allers on March 13, 2012, 05:07:07 am
Do people use autoblock for 1hr< and get banned for over a month?

QML4XP: doesn't hurt anyone
4V70|310<|<: block attacks and most of the time making you win and maybe even making other team lose xp

B3RS3RK thats from closed beta i spotted an eye are see

I was level 32 had like 1.1 mil xp left used QML to get it to 900k xp Ive respecced 2 times and I was gen 2 thats why i was only level 32.

You dont need to unban me, as I dont learn my lesson for a lot of things (for QML, yes I did and I wont do it again obviously) As I can count I number up to 11 Permabans ive had. Just unban el Rickyz0rzz0rz0rz0r0zr0zr0z0rz0r0zr0z0rz0rz

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Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Thanatos on March 13, 2012, 08:52:58 am
Ricky should be unbanned. Hes is a dedicated CRPG player who barely does anything bad..
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: polkafranzi on March 13, 2012, 11:59:53 am
welll i hope so man, its spring break 7 days left :P

Surely there are betting things to do on spring break...like getting laid.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: B3RS3RK on March 13, 2012, 01:04:25 pm
Surely there are betting things to do on spring break...like getting laid.

It´s ricky :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: polkafranzi on March 13, 2012, 01:06:47 pm
It´s ricky :rolleyes:

Then permaban will do him good to get some rl time.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Jambi on March 13, 2012, 03:38:16 pm
People with a mind capable of abusing stuff to take advantage over people that play fair, dont belong in any online gaming community.

There's a user agreement in almost every online game that tells you not too exploit. If you havent learned by now, you will never learn.

Sorry man, but i wont fall for your crocodile tears, nor your misleading excuses.

thanks man, i appreciate it. i really have learned my lesson and wont do this shit again, its just not worth it

You mean its just not worth it, now that youve been caught right?



PERMABAN

Permaban for you is well deserved. Go play Pac-Man and use cheats.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 03:52:58 pm
People with a mind capable of abusing stuff to take advantage over people that play fair, dont belong in any online gaming community.

There's a user agreement in almost every online game that tells you not too exploit. If you havent learned by now, you will never learn.

Sorry man, but i wont fall for your crocodile tears, nor your misleading excuses.

You mean its just not worth it, now that youve been caught right?



PERMABAN

Permaban for you is well deserved. Go play Pac-Man and use cheats.

I understand exactly 100% where you're coming at, i shamed myself by cheating, but i think your taking it a little to far. crpg is basically the only video gave i have ever played except some tf2 and some total war games. never played anything else except pc. but yea i deserve to be thrown tomatoes at the town hall :P . THEN SECOND CHANCE
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Jambi on March 13, 2012, 03:58:17 pm
I understand exactly 100% where you're coming at, i shamed myself by cheating, but i think your taking it a little to far. crpg is basically the only video gave i have ever played except some tf2 and some total war games. never played anything else except pc. but yea i deserve to be thrown tomatoes at the town hall :P . THEN SECOND CHANCE

When you realized you were doing something against the rules, and you had a disicion to keep on doing what you were doing or to stop. That was your 2nd chance.... and you blew up.

Now that you've been caught, you are sorry and ask for a second chance. You knew you were doing something wrong, you already had enough oppertunities and chances to stop.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 04:02:22 pm
When you realized you were doing something against the rules, and you had a disicion to keep on doing what you were doing or to stop. That was your 2nd chance.... and you blew up.

Now that you've been caught, you are sorry and ask for a second chance. You knew you were doing something wrong, you already had enough chances to stop.

dude. i did int even know what qml was until i got showed. then i was on for about 40 min, then got told it was against the rules from one of my friends on steam. Like i said i understand where your coming from, u think once a cheat, always. but being baned for a month from myfav game, basically the only one i ever play. really sucks hard time, but i understand i deserved that. but i think a second chance would be awesome.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Tore on March 13, 2012, 04:03:44 pm
FREE RICKY
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 04:04:19 pm
FREE RICKY

:D . im guessing you accept my apology, thanks and im sorry . it wont happen again
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Jambi on March 13, 2012, 04:15:25 pm
dude. i did int even know what qml was until i got showed. then i was on for about 40 min, then got told it was against the rules from one of my friends on steam. Like i said i understand where your coming from, u think once a cheat, always. but being baned for a month from myfav game, basically the only one i ever play. really sucks hard time, but i understand i deserved that. but i think a second chance would be awesome.

A FUE NAMED RICKY
So the next day , i was very close to retiring, so i decided to jump on the HoC server when no one was on, and out of my own stupidity without thinking i decided to try it out myself and use an x5 for about 30-40 minutes. The worst thing about this is that i dragged in my friends , egad and dino. I got them to let me qml them, luckily meow was nice enough to unban them a while ago. So i stayed on the HoC server for about 40 minutes , i think it was around 300k XP i got for free. Then i thought to myself, what if someone comes into the server and sees my score 73-0 because bots are one, and me having a x5. but i was to stupid to think of that 40 minutes ago when i was messaging egad and dino on the server how safe it is, because no one will find out.

You might have not known what qml was, but from your own words you did realize you were something doing against the rules... and you told you friends how safe it was.

Dude stop bullshitting

Maybe if you make a less "im sooo sorry guys. please forgive me, bullshit thread" and tell us the truth,  i would take you more serious.. and actually excuse your stupidity out of respect - for having the balls too be honest and true to yourself and us.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 04:19:26 pm
You might have not known what qml was, but from your own words you did realize you were something doing against the rules... and you told you friends how safe it was.

Dude stop bullshitting

Maybe if you make a less "im sooo sorry guys. please forgive me, bullshit thread" i would take you more serious.. and actually excuse your stupidity for having the balls too be honest and true to yourself and us.

i know i did. but i didint use it for the x5 most of you dont realize that. all the haters. I ONLY DID THE QML THING BECAUSE IT THOUGHT I FOUND A FLAW , ITS LIKE I GUESS YOU GUYS HACKING FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A VIDEO GAME, YOU PROB THINK ITS AWSOME. I HAV NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE. IF I REALLY WANTED AN X5 AND FREE XP WHY WAS I NOT ON THE SERVER THE WHOLE NIGHT AND WHOLE NEXT DAY BEFORE I GOT CAUGHT? what i did was fucked up and im sorry , just asking for  second chance
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Adrian on March 13, 2012, 04:21:32 pm
I love how almost every person supporting Ricky being unbanned has JUST met him sometime over the past week or are his friends.

Anyone who actually knows Ricky would spot this as a sorry ass attempt at gaining the communities favor to help get his account unbanned. The fact that he exploited then lied about his exploiting just shows his true character. Even after being found guilty he still continued feeding his bullshit to the community, telling many at the time that he was only apart of it for a second and had no idea that what he was doing was wrong or an exploit.

I'm sorry, but last time I checked Ricky is NOT mentally challenged/handicapped so I fail to see how he could have possibly not known what he was doing was wrong.

So once again I applaud the admins for banning this troll and his exploiting friends. IMO justice is served.

I mean ffs this kid was allowed to once again play on his second account.

Ban should stick end of story
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 13, 2012, 04:22:11 pm
I'm sorta with Jambi on this one...
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Jambi on March 13, 2012, 04:23:33 pm
i know i did. but i didint use it for the x5 most of you dont realize that. all the haters. I ONLY DID THE QML THING BECAUSE IT THOUGHT I FOUND A FLAW , ITS LIKE I GUESS YOU GUYS HACKING FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A VIDEO GAME, YOU PROB THINK ITS AWSOME. I HAV NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE. IF I REALLY WANTED AN X5 AND FREE XP WHY WAS I NOT ON THE SERVER THE WHOLE NIGHT AND WHOLE NEXT DAY BEFORE I GOT CAUGHT? what i did was fucked up and im sorry , just asking for  second chance

CRPG user agreements and rules, clearly states that if you find a flaw in the game, or bug. you should report this to an admin or developer. And not take advantage of it. This forum is filled with people that have done exploiting.... and none of them ended in a happy story. If you cant be arsed to read the rules of the game your playing.... then its your own fault.

You have had enough examples, enough chances and enough awareness of what you were doing.

If not a permaban, then i vote for your and your buddies account been reset to square one.

But too be honest, you now typing in caps etc reveals even more about you.... and it wont help you

permaban

I love how almost every person supporting Ricky being unbanned has JUST met him sometime over the past week or are his friends.

Anyone who actually knows Ricky would spot this as a sorry ass attempt at gaining the communities favor to help get his account unbanned. The fact that he exploited then lied about his exploiting just shows his true character. Even after being found guilty he still continued feeding his bullshit to the community, telling many at the time that he was only apart of it for a second and had no idea that what he was doing was wrong or an exploit.

I'm sorry, but last time I checked Ricky is NOT mentally challenged/handicapped so I fail to see how he could have possibly not known what he was doing was wrong.

This people.... please open your eyes. Exploiters have no empathy for you, they want to take advantage over you. As history has taught us many times over..... the only empathy they show, is when they are caught and have there back agaisnt the wall.... and yet, that empathy is fake and misleading.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 04:26:46 pm
I love how almost every person supporting Ricky being unbanned has JUST met him sometime over the past week or are his friends.

Anyone who actually knows Ricky would spot this as a sorry ass attempt at gaining the communities favor to help get his account unbanned. The fact that he exploited then lied about his exploiting just shows his true character. Even after being found guilty he still continued feeding his bullshit to the community, telling many at the time that he was only apart of it for a second and had no idea that what he was doing was wrong or an exploit.

I'm sorry, but last time I checked Ricky is NOT mentally challenged/handicapped so I fail to see how he could have possibly not known what he was doing was wrong.

So once again I applaud the admins for banning this troll and his exploiting friends. IMO justice is served.

I mean ffs this kid was allowed to once again play on his second account.

Ban should stick end of story

WHY IS LL EVEN GETING IN THIS FUCKING THREAD your fucking leader KILLERofFLOWERS , i trusted this man whn i was in LL to keep my looms for me so my friend doesn't loose them . so he kicked me out of the clan and kept them and refused to give them back, so after everyone hated on him he gave them back. seriously get out of here. im trying to apologize to the community, i don't consider you apart of that.

i will accept anyones bad or good comments. but LL get out of here i honestly dont want u in this thread. you have made so many lies/ or trolls on me. just go away please
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 04:31:07 pm
ADRIANS WORDS OF WISDOM TO MY MAN SMOOTH RICH

Lmao at this fat fucking piece of useless shit. Who the fuck are you? You're literally just some lard ass who thinks he's "somebody" in this mod for some reason. OMFG you can manage to maintain some 2-1 KD in battle as a lancer #easymode. And smoothfatfuck aren't you part of LLJK? Last time I checked that clan is literally home to 90% of the trolls in CRPG. Congrats you worthless, obese waste of space. Instead of sitting your fat ass trolling around on the forums, how about you go run some fucking laps down in your parents basement where we all know your stupid ass resides.

Anyway, now that I'm done expressing my compassion towards "people" like smooth lets get down to this issue. I have already spoke with him about what's happened while I been gone the past couple days. Personally, I would opt to return 100% of the looms that ricky placed into Flower's care. Although ricky is a troll and has zero credibility throughout the CRPG community, I don't believe it is morally right to take anyone's heirlooms. Even though there technically is no rule forbidding this exact situation, I still stand by returning the troll his equipment.


AFTER THIS I DO NOT CONSIDER YOU APART OF THIS COMMUNITY, YOU YOURSELF SHOULD BE PERMA BANED AFTER THIS ^
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Jambi on March 13, 2012, 04:32:11 pm
WHY IS LL EVEN GETING IN THIS FUCKING THREAD your fucking leader KILLERofFLOWERS , i trusted this man whn i was in LL to keep my looms for me so my friend doesn't loose them . so he kicked me out of the clan and kept them and refused to give them back, so after everyone hated on him he gave them back. seriously get out of here. im trying to apologize to the community, i don't consider you apart of that.

i will accept anyones bad or good comments. but LL get out of here i honestly dont want u in this thread. you have made so many lies/ or trolls on me. just go away please

Last time when i checked LL is part of this community, and your apologize to the community. basicly what you did, indirectly also effects him. I dont know him.. i dont know what hes done, but he has all the right to be here.

And seriously man, lose the caps

But keep on going, bit by bit your revealing us what kind of person you realy are.

ADRIANS WORDS OF WISDOM TO MY MAN SMOOTH RICH

Lmao at this fat fucking piece of useless shit. Who the fuck are you? You're literally just some lard ass who thinks he's "somebody" in this mod for some reason. OMFG you can manage to maintain some 2-1 KD in battle as a lancer #easymode. And smoothfatfuck aren't you part of LLJK? Last time I checked that clan is literally home to 90% of the trolls in CRPG. Congrats you worthless, obese waste of space. Instead of sitting your fat ass trolling around on the forums, how about you go run some fucking laps down in your parents basement where we all know your stupid ass resides.

Anyway, now that I'm done expressing my compassion towards "people" like smooth lets get down to this issue. I have already spoke with him about what's happened while I been gone the past couple days. Personally, I would opt to return 100% of the looms that ricky placed into Flower's care. Although ricky is a troll and has zero credibility throughout the CRPG community, I don't believe it is morally right to take anyone's heirlooms. Even though there technically is no rule forbidding this exact situation, I still stand by returning the troll his equipment.


AFTER THIS I DO NOT CONSIDER YOU APART OF THIS COMMUNITY, YOU YOURSELF SHOULD BE PERMA BANED AFTER THIS ^

But generally you think its right to generate your own heirlooms, by using an exploit, without any effort of thinking of what your doing, right ?
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 04:33:41 pm
after what LL did to smooth rich i really dont enjoy having them near me anywhere. so i just dont appreciate any LL on here. thanks srry for caps
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 04:36:35 pm


But generally you think its right to generate your own heirlooms, by using an exploit, without any effort of thinking of what your doing, right ?

ofcourse not. i grinded over 15 gens. i had no reason to exploit for looms. i had everything i wanted. i was going for a level 33 build. like i said it had nothing to do with heirlooms.


edit: i would usually go peasant a whole gen to level 31 make around 200-300k . then respec that person and do it again, then respec again and play with real equipment. then with the gold i got from being peasant i would buy a +1 or +2 then loom it to +3 or +2
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Adrian on March 13, 2012, 04:38:13 pm
WHY IS LL EVEN GETING IN THIS FUCKING THREAD your fucking leader KILLERofFLOWERS , i trusted this man whn i was in LL to keep my looms for me so my friend doesn't loose them . so he kicked me out of the clan and kept them and refused to give them back, so after everyone hated on him he gave them back. seriously get out of here. im trying to apologize to the community, i don't consider you apart of that.

i will accept anyones bad or good comments. but LL get out of here i honestly dont want u in this thread. you have made so many lies/ or trolls on me. just go away please

Last time I checked ricky I had nothing to do with your little incident involving flowers other than pursuading him to just return your loom. So I fail to see your point.

You don't want anyone in general who sees you for who you really are posting in here Ricky. Doesn't matter, the admins aren't dropping this ban anyway so cry all you want about your trolling/exploits finally being punished.

Just like myself, the admins see right through all your bullshit apologies.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Jambi on March 13, 2012, 04:38:22 pm
ofcourse not. i grinded over 15 gens. i had no reason to exploit for looms. i had everything i wanted. i was going for a level 33 build. like i said it had nothing to do with heirlooms.

If you grinded 15 generations, you should clearly know the rules and what nots of this game by now.

Permaban
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: TurmoilTom on March 13, 2012, 04:39:04 pm
Quoted from Autoblocker Unban Thread:

Hey,

I have used it. I used it i think 3 or 4 times for ca. 40min each time. First time i used it was 3-4 weeks ago( i thnik).I am really sorry pls unban me :(


Meow: Minor use, unbanned.

Alright, so... Using autoblocker for a few days is a temporary ban, which is something that directly affects gameplay and can easily ruin people's fun, but abusive use of QML on an empty server for less than one hour is deserving of a permanent ban.

Fabulous work. Ricky totally deserved that ban.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: MrShine on March 13, 2012, 04:42:47 pm
I don't think the punishment fits the crime, and while Meow is generally a pretty fair admin I think personal bias has its part in this permaban.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Jambi on March 13, 2012, 04:44:56 pm
Quoted from Autoblocker Unban Thread:

Alright, so... Using autoblocker for a few days is a temporary ban, which is something that directly affects gameplay and can easily ruin people's fun, but abusive use of QML on an empty server for less than one hour is deserving of a permanent ban.

Fabulous work. Ricky totally deserved that ban.

The autoblock hack was on a large scale, i think if they would perma ban everyone that used it, it would have had too much of an impact on the current playerbase. But aside from that, its another "2nd chance" example, of hacking/abusing not being tolerated in CRPG. And yet after all that, the people that would still think they can abuse and get away with it... should be given no room in CRPG.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: TurmoilTom on March 13, 2012, 04:47:01 pm
The autoblock hack was on a large scale, i think if they would perma ban everyone that used it, it would have had too much of an impact on the current playerbase. But aside from that, its another "2nd chance" example, of hacking/abusing not being tolerated in CRPG. And yet after all that, the people that would still think they can abuse and get away with it... should be given no room in CRPG.

So Ricky doesn't deserve a second chance like the autoblockers do?
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Adrian on March 13, 2012, 04:47:18 pm
ADRIANS WORDS OF WISDOM TO MY MAN SMOOTH RICH

Lmao at this fat fucking piece of useless shit. Who the fuck are you? You're literally just some lard ass who thinks he's "somebody" in this mod for some reason. OMFG you can manage to maintain some 2-1 KD in battle as a lancer #easymode. And smoothfatfuck aren't you part of LLJK? Last time I checked that clan is literally home to 90% of the trolls in CRPG. Congrats you worthless, obese waste of space. Instead of sitting your fat ass trolling around on the forums, how about you go run some fucking laps down in your parents basement where we all know your stupid ass resides.

Anyway, now that I'm done expressing my compassion towards "people" like smooth lets get down to this issue. I have already spoke with him about what's happened while I been gone the past couple days. Personally, I would opt to return 100% of the looms that ricky placed into Flower's care. Although ricky is a troll and has zero credibility throughout the CRPG community, I don't believe it is morally right to take anyone's heirlooms. Even though there technically is no rule forbidding this exact situation, I still stand by returning the troll his equipment.


AFTER THIS I DO NOT CONSIDER YOU APART OF THIS COMMUNITY, YOU YOURSELF SHOULD BE PERMA BANED AFTER THIS ^

I love how you failed to post all the hateful remarks smoothrich made prior to that post. That post was in response to smooth's constant trolling and his need to feel important in this game by walking all over everyone else in the community. Smooth needed put in his place and reminded of what he really is in the real world outside of this game.

I DO NOT regret anything I stated in that post.
 

I see a liar Ricky just like with smooth i see a pathetic human. I see right through you for who you really are.

So Ricky just keep on feeding the community your lies and bullshit because I for one am not buying
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Lizard_man on March 13, 2012, 04:48:37 pm
Alright, so... Using autoblocker for a few days is a temporary ban, which is something that directly affects gameplay and can easily ruin people's fun, but abusive use of QML on an empty server for less than one hour is deserving of a permanent ban.

They should have never been unbanned in the first place. What the fuck the admins were thinking i have no idea. As for this, it's obviously not as bad as using the autoblock hack. But it's still cheating at the end of the day...

If you grinded 15 generations, you should clearly know the rules and what nots of this game by now.

Permaban

This...
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 04:50:04 pm
They should have never been unbanned in the first place. What the fuck the admins were thinking i have no idea. As for this, it's obviously not as bad as using the autoblock hack. But it's still cheating at the end of the day...

This...

its just the fact that 1000 hours is ruined for not even 1  , when i could have been exploiting for way longer. but anyways.i appreciate all the comments, and have nothing against you. thanks for the feedback


im also guessing you ad jumbi and adrian do not forgive me ): i guess i have to deal with it
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Lizard_man on March 13, 2012, 04:52:37 pm
As i said, i have no time for cheaters... :wink:
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Jambi on March 13, 2012, 04:53:02 pm
So Ricky doesn't deserve a second chance like the autoblockers do?

No, i believe the autoblock incidents have set a big example... for anyone in the future that is thinking about abusing etc.

They have to give out permabans now, too people that still think they can get away with exploiting.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Adrian on March 13, 2012, 04:55:10 pm
If you grinded 15 generations, you should clearly know the rules and what nots of this game by now.

Permaban

Thank you! Just more evidence of how Ricky is just a little piece of shit bullshitting the community
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Jambi on March 13, 2012, 04:56:10 pm
im also guessing you ad jumbi and adrian do not forgive me ): i guess i have to deal with it

Thats not what ive said. I said i would, if you stop dancing around this play. Tell us the truth, and be true to yourself... show us what kind of person you realy are, only when i know you is when i can truely forgive you.
Right now, your trying to mislead the majority
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: _Tak_ on March 13, 2012, 04:57:08 pm
Well if you already lost your first account , it must been really sick to start all over again. Then you have another account and you got banned again. How sad. It takes forsaken amount of time to level up. This guy should not be perma banned, give him another chance to start all over again.

from gen 1 to 15 will take you few "REAL LIFE" months and you will become a mature player when that time comes. I accpet your apology and i hope you won't get ban forever just because of that. I think starting over again is a huge punishment since many people will just rage quit from the game , but then they would like to come back. Your 1st and 2nd account should stay banned as punishment , and you should start all over again imo :)
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 04:57:48 pm
k then jumbi, add me on steam
ricky7hendler i will answer any questions what so ever u want to know. anything and then you can delete me after
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: TurmoilTom on March 13, 2012, 04:58:14 pm
No, i believe the autoblock incidents have set a big example... for anyone in the future that is thinking about abusing etc.

They have to give out permabans now, too people that still think they can get away with exploiting.

So handing out harsh punishments for minor offenses is okay because light punishments have been handed out for major offenses in the past? I'm beginning to understand your way of thinking, Jambi...
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 13, 2012, 04:58:28 pm
so after everyone hated on him he gave them back.
Let me type a very similiar line, so after everyone the devs hated on him perma-banned him he gave them back claimed he was sorry.
If you're sorry then buy a new CD key, stay banned forever, and have a completely fresh start.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Jambi on March 13, 2012, 04:59:49 pm
So handing out harsh punishments for minor offenses is okay because light punishments have been handed out for major offenses in the past? I'm beginning to understand your way of thinking, Jambi...

Your missing my point.

The autoblock exploit wasnt a minor offense, nor was it treated as such.

My way of thinking is,

If you see someone gets a penalty for doing a wrong thing. Then you understand whats right and wrong.
If you then after that, decide to do the same wrong thing.. then the penalty should be larger, because your being double wrong.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 05:01:05 pm
Let me type a very similiar line, so after everyone the devs hated on him perma-banned him he gave them back claimed he was sorry.
If you're sorry then buy a new CD key, stay banned forever, and have a completely fresh start.

and now you got your facts wrong, and speaking out out of your ass. the devs had nothing to do with that, he did int scam me, i gave him the looms to keep so they couldn't do anything, once my firends about 80% of NA hated on him, he gave them back,
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Adrian on March 13, 2012, 05:01:38 pm
its just the fact that 1000 hours is ruined for not even 1  , when i could have been exploiting for way longer. but anyways.i appreciate all the comments, and have nothing against you. thanks for the feedback


im also guessing you ad jumbi and adrian do not forgive me ): i guess i have to deal with it

Sorry ricky, your moments of immaturity and constant trolling I can deal with and most of the time forgive. However, your lies and exploiting just should not go unpunished and should not be forgiven.

As they say..."you can't fix stupid", and in all honesty this applies to you. However, a perma ban will suffice!
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 05:03:40 pm
Your missing my point.

jumbi i honestly want to talk to you since u want to. i insist
add me on steam
ricky7hendler is id
you can question anything you want. and then delete me
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Jambi on March 13, 2012, 05:05:36 pm
jumbi i honestly want to talk to you since u want to. i insist
add me on steam
ricky7hendler is id
you can question anything you want. and then delete me

There will be no personal discussion about this, nor have i requested any. This will remain public. Sorry Ricky
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 05:07:36 pm
There will be no personal discussion about this, nor have i requested any. This will remain public. Sorry Ricky

no probs u said u would love to ask me stuff. idc.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Lizard_man on March 13, 2012, 05:08:58 pm
Make me a sandwich and all is forgiven, choose your toppings wisely boy...
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Jambi on March 13, 2012, 05:09:20 pm
no probs u said u would love to ask me stuff. idc.

I never did
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 05:11:03 pm
Make me a sandwich and all is forgiven, choose your toppings wisely boy...


ok i shall. my favorite combination is
Mayonase, cheese, lettuce, anything goes good with bacon( but i don't know your personal views on meat) and some onions and banana peppers to top it off with a Italian herb and cheese break :O
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 13, 2012, 05:12:40 pm
and now you got your facts wrong, and speaking out out of your ass. the devs had nothing to do with that, he did int scam me, i gave him the looms to keep so they couldn't do anything, once my firends about 80% of NA hated on him, he gave them back,
Ya' know, if ya' think about it, the way I changed the quote sounds a lot like you (was talking about you, not flowers (doing what he did was still dickish, but this isn't about him)).
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: roymorrison on March 13, 2012, 05:17:07 pm
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I honestly don't give two shits about ricky, I'm just stopping by to say that you look super cool in your avatar.  Did your mom take that picture right before prom?  Slick vest bro.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 13, 2012, 05:20:14 pm
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I honestly don't give two shits about ricky, I'm just stopping by to say that you look super cool in your avatar.  Did your mom take that picture right before prom?  Slick vest bro.
lolz.

BTW: I request that someone move the thread to spam section and merge it with the clan Gnjus thread.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 05:21:21 pm
how about all the trolls get out of here. but i guess this thread is done
we have had over 130 posts
about 110 forgive me
about 10-15 say idk yet.
about 5 say no forgiveness.

thanks for all the comments guys appreciate it all
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Smoothrich on March 13, 2012, 05:22:40 pm
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I honestly don't give two shits about ricky, I'm just stopping by to say that you look super cool in your avatar.  Did your mom take that picture right before prom?  Slick vest bro.

God damn, I can smell the cologne right through your avatar man.  Is that the limited edition fragrance "Guido Lust?"
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Lizard_man on March 13, 2012, 05:23:34 pm
ok i shall. my favorite combination is
Mayonase, cheese, lettuce, anything goes good with bacon( but i don't know your personal views on meat) and some onions and banana peppers to top it off with a Italian herb and cheese break :O

I approve of this sandwich...
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Rhalzo on March 13, 2012, 05:23:53 pm
Ricky... ban or unban... black or white... cake or pie... car or truck... where was I going with this?

Oh yeah, I don't really care if you get unbanned or not.

If you get unbanned, have fun. If you don't get unbanned, have fun.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Mosquito on March 13, 2012, 05:24:49 pm
I don't understand what you are sorry about Ricky?
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 13, 2012, 05:29:05 pm
lock this thread already...
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 05:29:17 pm
I approve of this sandwich...


 :P i knew you would.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Ricky77 on March 13, 2012, 05:39:18 pm
i reopened thread
ANY MORE TROLLING AND IM LOCKING IT
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Allers on March 13, 2012, 05:41:45 pm
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Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Miley on March 13, 2012, 05:54:03 pm
I totally agree with the autoblocker thing. People used autoblock, as some other people said, for "3 or 4 days for 40 minutes," yet they're unbanned within a month. Yet, Ricky and Allers remained banned for something that the people who have already been unbanned did as well. Now, I think that the ban for exploiting the QML system for one period of 30-60 minutes should already be over for both of them. The only thing that should be continuing Ricky's ban, in my opinion, is the fact that he lied to the developer, and at this point, how long is the ban for lying to the developer going to last? And again, what did Allers do that is extending the ban to this point?

For all of the people who say they should remain permabanned, what you're saying isn't fair. People who got unbanned for using autoblocks for an even longer time are unbanned. Autoblocks directly affect everyone's gameplay, and it wouldn't be fair to keep these two permabanned. If you wanted it fair, you would permaban the exploiters of QML and the autoblockers, or unban both parties. But, even permabanning both parties would be wrong also because you would be banning players who got their accounts back from the temportary ban, were playing on those characters, and then ban them again?

I don't know how long Ricky should be banned for my figurative "lying ban," but that's for Meow to decide.
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Allers on March 13, 2012, 05:56:32 pm
only reason i AM banned is because i HAVE bans
Title: Re: A fue Named ricky (apology letter)
Post by: Hobb on March 13, 2012, 05:59:36 pm
ricky you never should have made this thread, its things like this and your visits to irc that are keeping you banned. if you would have keeped quiet like the others you would prob be unbanned right now.

ricky is a good kid
meow is a good admin/dev/moderator watever

lock the thread and take it like a man