Dear God yes, it'll be much easier to pew pew now.ya pew pew with ur nerffed arrows lol
im with them bringing all other armours in line with light... but.. WHY DID YOU LOWER MY GROSSE MESSER DAMAGE?! WHYYYYYY!!!!!!!!! seriously... theres like 4 people in the entire fucking mod who use it... why would you change it?My light armor got nerffed -.-
im with them bringing all other armours in line with light... but.. WHY DID YOU LOWER MY GROSSE MESSER DAMAGE?! WHYYYYYY!!!!!!!!! seriously... theres like 4 people in the entire fucking mod who use it... why would you change it?
what is your light armour? the one im wearing is the same as before... if it isnt 5 weight or less... it aint light.Lordly Light Strange Armor
+3 bodkin arrows +0 pierce ? +4 pierce dont deadly ? wtf
chadz must give free respec, 12 time nerfed and i want leave archery pls. im lvl 33 and i have 65mil xp
chadz doesn't have to do anything, suck it up champ.He's fixing it anyways, already said it'll be done within 24 hours
he should at least give the option to return the looms from armor...
chadz doesn't have to do anything, suck it up champ.
No, i lose too many hours for archery and chadz change it.
Bodkin +0 pierce 15 arrow ---- bodkin +1 +0 pierce 17 arrow ---- bodkin +2 +0 pierce 15 arrow ---- bodkin +3 +0 pierce 17 arrow ... wtf ?
Not only free respec, must give repick heirlooms...
Meh, armor looms are still worthwhile imo.
Did they fix the ranged looms btw?
HE'S FIXING IT! GOD!
L2 READ?
Some are not at all.
I got reinforced Mail gauntlets which dropped from 10 to 7 Body armor.That doesnt sound like much but Im not gonna pay over 25 upkeep for this shit.If you loomed a tunic over mail you are still n top, but otherwise Looming armor has become pretty much useless.I wont waste 3 gens for +5 Body armor.
Better to just loom Weapons now.
xp on duel. chadz is a god he could nerf the shit out of everything for duel xp and he did it.Wut? Must be a bug, I remember having xp on the duel server (like an x1 every 5 minutes), but that only lasted a little while.
No still bugged. I try update but its not fixed.
Bodkins are now 0 pierce from regular through masterwork, eh?will be fixed in the next 24 hours.
No still bugged. I try update but its not fixed.
I have full lordly set and I welcome this change!
Nerfing armor were a must it was getting very tedious seeing people with pure Strength specs and Lordly Plate, not only does it not have a single thing to do with skills but it is also extremely idiotic in terms of game-play.
Hopefully the battlefield will be more even now with the new changes.
Wut? Must be a bug, I remember having xp on the duel server (like an x1 every 5 minutes), but that only lasted a little while.
will be fixed in the next 24 hours.
if its a bug then a bug with a feature.Oh wait, how does it work?
you dont get xp if you dont fight there.
so i think its intended if not its a bug that has a built in feature and should not be removed.
awesome patch
Oh wait, how does it work?
You get one tick ever 2-3 minutes.yup people will abuse this for strat, just afk in dual sever and earn gold for strat... Yay broken
You only get it if you win or lose duells in that timeframe.
You dont get it if you just stand around, run around, or stay in a duell and dont fight.
So either be active or dont get anything.
the xp is not great but it is at least xp on duel servers.
so you can go there and get some xp and gold.
battle and siege and probably dtv too are better for lvlgrind.
its totally ok for me that way.
yup people will abuse this for strat, just afk in dual sever and earn gold for strat... Yay brokenYou can't afk if you have to fight.. :]
Anyone who I catch leeching in the Duel server will get a penalty a wee bit harder then they would in any other server, don't worry...LOL just go hit dual and fight a guy. Then you both run away and afk, thus in a fight and getting gold as you afk.
Also a good idea to gently remind people that Leeching Bans are now Global on all cRPG servers.
Enjoy your time, and play fair! <3
Wut? Must be a bug, I remember having xp on the duel server (like an x1 every 5 minutes), but that only lasted a little while.
Archery nerfed, xbows buffed indirectly? Smells like deja vu
LOL just go hit dual and fight a guy. Then you both run away and afk, thus in a fight and getting gold as you afk.
no admin plays in the sever
I can only play with the launcher, and i cant use TS while i play PERIOD---->. on top of all the nerfs of armor i feel my love of the donkey man has been for nothingRun TS as an administrator you derp. (Same with launcher)
Run TS as an administrator you derp. (Same with launcher)
im with them bringing all other armours in line with light... but.. WHY DID YOU LOWER MY GROSSE MESSER DAMAGE?! WHYYYYYY!!!!!!!!! seriously... theres like 4 people in the entire fucking mod who use it... why would you change it?
So, when do I get my 3 loom points back since I can't use my awlpike with a shield anymore?
Because it is OP. There's one guy on EU who use it atm, he wasn't able to kill me as: archer, 2h, polearmer, xbow and lancer. But then he made shielder char and started using that pirate sabre called grosse messer. He's pain in the ass to kill and his k/d is better than ever. Grosse messer and cleaver are among the best 1h weapons, grosse messer is especially annoying.
grosse messer is a medieval german peasant utility knife, not a pirates sabre. Get yo shit straight before you insult a amazing weapon
Yeah, its strange that it has worse stats now than the langes messer, which has the additional benefit of being usable as a 2hander.
As somebody with +3 plated mittens and +3 heraldic mail, I have to say that this patch is pretty awesome.
Armor looms were long overdue for a nerf.
Next time plz nerf cav, I really don't want to have fun with this class anymore.
Langes is straight sword and grosse is curved which is huge advantage in this game.
god i hate the new thrust animation on 2h
Why is it ridiculous? 2 armor for 3 weight isn't really that bad of a ratio. 6k is what, 300-400 extra when it breaks? Sure, they should adjust it, but it's hardly the end of the world.
How horrible that something is slightly out of balance one day after the patch.
I understand they nerf loomed armor, but it is nonsense that they nerf perfectly in balance heraldic armors and leave heavy kuyak which is basically the best medium untouched.Heavy Kuyak untouched? I don't think so... Atleast what my inventory tells me... My loomed heavy kuyak lost a few points too, but I'm ok with it. Everyone else got nerf too. Heraldic should be more expensive since it is gear of a knight :P
Heavy Kuyak untouched? I don't think so... Atleast what my inventory tells me... My loomed heavy kuyak lost a few points too, but I'm ok with it. Everyone else got nerf too. Heraldic should be more expensive since it is gear of a knight :P
Actually I am not sure if every armor got even the loom nerf. I have heard that sarranid leather armor lost nothing even if loomed, and the same for plate armor... Don't know if that is intentional or not. Oh I lost many armor points from my hard earned lordly heavy kuyak, but I know I still have a good armor, and don't whine about it. I'm perfectly ok with this patch. Kuyak is not the best medium armor. Like I said sarranid guard armor is basically the same but with more body armor and less leg armor. The weight is identical and it costs basically as much. It depends on what you prefer.
Well why they let a retard who doesn't know math touch the armors? It ain't hard to realize it was bullshit and bad move.
As i said it was okay for loomed to loose points, not normal armor. They should have taken the +7 to +4 and it was perfect, ok so put it this way: now 2 best medium lost nothing, others are bullshit.That is bullshit and you know it. There is so many good armors. Banded armor, Cuir builli over mail, all rus armors, Mamluke mail, Studded leather over mail, Heraldic mail with surcoat all good armors. Do I have to make the list longer?
And why the hell they wanna punish clans for showing their banner?
People going full rage on day one of patch, classic
And Vibe u use h kuyak too, so theres nothing for u to whine about.
+ Im sure my iq is higher than urs.
That is bullshit and you know it. There is so many good armors. Banded armor, Cuir builli over mail, all rus armors, Mamluke mail, Studded leather over mail, Heraldic mail with surcoat all good armors. Do I have to make the list longer?
Last time i saw u Vibe.
Lol vibe doesn't use h kuyak and you are full of shit :D. So adorable how you rage when your first loom got nerfed. Just like someone had stolen candy from a kid. Please continue, this is so entertaining :lol:
I doubt he even knows how a Heavy Kuyak looks lolTrue dat. Last time I saw you playing you used Studded leather over mail...
I doubt he even knows how a Heavy Kuyak looks lol
Well maybe i thought u as someone else then, but anycase i ain't talking about loomed armor, only saying that it was okay to steal from loomed, not from normals.So it is ok to steal armor points from loomed armor which someone had the patience to grind, but when someone nerfs your favourite unloomed armor it is the end of the world? Kinda funny...
I like the 0p damage now, it makes the other arrows more of a choice, raising the armour thresh hold of when pierce becomes better. I love it.
0P is ridiculous especially since looms also have 0P at least up to +2 Bodkin arrows. I mean changes are one thing, but completely taking away 2 of my loom points? That's pretty cold, i'm hoping it's a glitch.Read more. They are fixing it.
Well I don't choose my armor thinking about the stats. I use h kuyak because of the looks mainly. It is really good armor statwise too, but when I saw the models first time I decided to use it no matter what the stats would be :D. If I'd choose the armor only based on stats I doubt I'd use some other armor.
U don't choose it by stats? It is best in medium category with sarranid guard and with studded leather and that is reason u and Vibe stand up for this patch.Oh now you added studded leather over mail to your list. When we continue this long enough I think there is going to be over half of the mid tier armor in the list you mention to be the best :D. How about light kuyak next? It is a lot cheaper than heavy one and it only has 2 less overall armor + it is lighter. Sure I would use that myself if it wasn't for looks...
Try again..
U don't choose it by stats? It is best in medium category with sarranid guard and with studded leather and that is reason u and Vibe stand up for this patch.
Try again..
U don't choose it by stats? It is best in medium category with sarranid guard and with studded leather and that is reason u and Vibe stand up for this patch.
Try again..
Oh now you added studded leather over mail to your list. When we continue this long enough I think there is going to be over half of the mid tier armor in the list you mention to be the best :D. How about light kuyak next? It is a lot cheaper than heavy one and it only has 2 less overall armor + it is lighter. Sure I would use that myself if it wasn't for looks...
Light Kuyak, Studded leather over mail, mamluke mail, banded armor, cuir bouilli brigandine, heavy kuyak and Sarranid Guard armor are all pretty much just as good.
Well it is obvious why Vibe stands up for this patch and it is obvious why u do. U know 10-12.5weighted are now total bullshit and ur a retard if u don't admit it. Too proud eh?Maybe use heavier armor then? Heraldic Transitional?
U lost already admit it.
It is not "my" armor, it is very much used by clans because it shows banner and that is only reason i used heraldic.
Trade for other armor then
Yes the untouched category..
As i said above Studded leather, Sarranid guard and Heavy kuyak. If it is too hard for u to read, don't even try.
Never was after "good" body armor, only what looks nice to me, but now it just doesn't match in price nor the stats.
Never was after "good" body armor, only what looks nice to me, but now it just doesn't match in price nor the stats.
What? You're seriously fucking retarded.
Xant, the only retard here is you. If you can't understand English I can write to you in Finnish, but I doubt you'll understand that either.
"WAAAAAAHWAAAAHWAAAAHSENSELESSBULLSHIT"
Xant only retard here is u, if u can't understand in english i can write u in finnish, doubt u understand that either.Haha never accept defeat. Ain't that just cute :3
So u guys are giving out options for good armors, which all was untouched and what u guys use. But i don't want that, i want heraldic mails to be balanced and now they aren't and doubt they will be if a jerk like Fasader decides whats up.
Vibe cuz i don't wanna pay high repair for bullshit armor, i get alot cheaper with same stats, i ment i never was after high stats like u guys. U can stop the trolling cuz ur cause is already lost.
Either way, fantastic thread.I agree. It was fun my dear <3
*wipes tears of joy*
Haha never accept defeat. Ain't that just cute :3
I see you haven't played this mod too long considering your rage levels about some minor nerfs that actually balance this game. I only wish that you were around when the January "big patch" came... It was a big shock to even some cold headed guys ;)
Last postAnd if you say that 10-12 weight armors are useless, you are the retard here. I don't even need to discuss it or give any arguments since it is clear as a day. Maybe you think you're funny and laugh behind your screen thinking that "LOLOL I TROLLED ALL THOSE GUYS! THEY ARE SO STUPID LOLOL" but the way I see it, you are the retard. If you think it was trolling, then try thinking again who is the one that got trolled here? Yes if you have a mirror, go and look at it until you see him. You failed, admit it. Or go tell your clan buddies about your great achievement of today. Maybe they will laugh. You think they laugh at your trolling, but the thruth is that they are laughing at your stupidity. Have fun realizing that.
How is it balanced now? Ur armor category left untouched, what is the most loomed and most used and u say it is in balance? Sure, whatever mr. oracle..
No Question, this mod is extremely gay and item balancers obviously either take LSD before they think out new stats or they are retarded.
But still, its so addictive.
I feel there is a distinct lack of indignant rage in this thread. Too many people happy with the changes... where are all our angry adolescents?
chadz stole several points of armor rating from your heirloomed armor, totally breaking game balance ofcourse. Come on lads, just a few more angry posts to get this thread back on track.
:lol:
You'll rage too when chadz decide that turtling on a horse is inappropriate way to play the game :PWut?! That would be retarded, you fuckard! :mad:
Man there's a lot of whiners around here. Armor heirlooms needed a nerf. With the current heirloom philosophy in this mod, you are only supposed to get slight bonuses for them. They aren't meant to be game changers. The game is about skill anyway, not crutching on equipment.
Also for the record, I use a Heraldric Mail with tabard. I don't give a shit that lesser armors are better. If they fix it tomorrow or don't, I don't give a shit. I use it because I like how it looks, not because it has a couple points better or worse than something else.
Fail patch, there is too less rage post.Just wait until Von_Hazaa's mother gives him the permission to go back to the computer (after he has finished his homework ofc :wink:).
Good ol'time when we got january patch and heirloom thief (fasader strikes again!)
How to get taken seriously 101: State your opinion without caps, don't rage, don't insult. Don't be an ungrateful jerk (i.e raging about something being not-balanced one day after the patch).Also, actually spelling words like 'you' and 'your' would perhaps enable some of us to bother finding a glimpse of sense amongst all the butthurt.
Just had a quick go, so, i miss a stab with my 2 handed sword, the enemy gets a free hit since i can't block, right, this is fucking stupid, i might just have to avoid stabbing or trade in my sword for something that doesn't use a stab, this is ridiculous...
Blue mail with surcoat had 40 body armor, so yea it got nerfed
Native MB is pretty balanced between cav, infantry and ranged and each has it's purpose.
Native MB is pretty balanced between cav, infantry and ranged and each has it's purpose.
Holy shit I lol'd hard.Native MB is pretty balanced between cav, infantry and ranged and each has it's purpose.(click to show/hide)
Holy shit I lol'd hard.(click to show/hide)
Lol. Fuck overpowered cav. They really need to cut cav armor in half. especially the heavier cav. Its wrong for pikes and just about everything to glance off them. Only thing that dents them are bodkins but that still takes 6-7 shots.visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Native MB is pretty balanced between cav, infantry and ranged and each has it's purpose.
Archers rock.
It's quite frustrating that, even as a shielder, there's not much I can do against one. He'll just run away until I give up or until I get lanced in the back by one of his buddies.
When there's 2, they'll split up and as soon as I chase one, the other shoots me in the back. At least vs 2 or 3 melee I still have a shot at killing them.
Is this a whine for an Archery nerf? Because its pretty shitty, Archers are allowed that fighting chance just as you are allowed to chance them.
To be fair, for organised (small scale) matches with skilled players this was true for the Native maps with the usual MotF strategy. Well, at least 2 years ago. Saying this as former ENL winner. On a public server with randoms it's of course different.
To be fair, for organised (small scale) matches with skilled players this was true for the Native maps with the usual MotF strategy. Well, at least 2 years ago. Saying this as former ENL winner. On a public server with randoms it's of course different.
I'm not seeing any difference before the patch and after. People say that archers got nerfed, but just moments ago this one archer took over 80% of my health with one shot. I'm thick gothic plated knight and very confused by this new "nerf" patch thing.
Archers didn't get nerfed, I'm still too easily getting killed by them, and their amount is still increasing. In the game I started arguing about this, but got just comments like "this is just a game", "stfu" and so on.
Well I must admit that this is game, but games are made to be played, and "fuckheads" like me, who wants something to be changed is something, what you see everyday.
Only difference is that theres like a lot of people like me, who demands the archer nerf. Shielders are crying that "take a shield", or "go to cover". It's much easier said than done. I myself won't even think about starting to hide behind a shield or spend most of time in covers... All 2handers are fucked up untill you are not in biggest pile, where archer most likely will only kill their teammates.
In battles, where there is like 10-20 players, archers just DOMINATE the battlefield. These one man armies can easily take out the whole opposite team just by running and shooting.
I'm okay with bodkins to pierce armor(leather, chain), but not okay with the idea that it pierces plated armor. Arrows just doesn't have the power to do that. I'm okay with lances, cav and crossbowmen, but these fucking archers just keep coming and killing. For example, what happened around 30min ago. One archer left, 4 two-handers left, Archer keeps running, shoots me first(gothic plate), then comes guys from Nord clan with heavy kuyaks, both gets one shotted(yes, the battle was fierce with meleers, but I had like over half of my hp left) and lastly the other plated guy who also gets one shotted.
I don't know, if you got the idea, but it's here. For meleers IT'S IMPOSSIBLE to beat archers untill these fuckers go melee, which rarely happens. Battles like 5 two-handers versus 1-2 archers are always owned by those archers.
That's why I'm playing mostly on siege servers, no spawn raping cavalry,well it happens :mrgreen: but not in every round like on battle server. Archers are not so annoying for most of the time they just shooting eachother and there are also a lot of places where you can hide, they always make me laugh when flag is going down and just keep staring at it from the roof :lol:, you can say that they are useless in malee, sure that's in most of the cases true but they could go down and buy another few seconds until reinforcments will come. Fighting is more intense, you just keep spwaning without a need to wait 2 or 3 minutes untill some campers finally decide to commit suicide :rolleyes:.
I've lost few body armor points on looms nerf, but I don't see a real difference, it may be a bit easier to kill me, I can deal with it. Archers lost their 1 or 2 damage from their arrows, I've lost 4 body armor points, sounds fair enough to me. Exept whining on the forum nothing has really changed in gameplay, at least for me. I guess some guys are even happy that long spear has overhead atttack again, so as some players with new 2h stab animation.
0 Pierce? :shock: Tatars are better now. :mad:
I have full lordly set and I welcome this change!
Nerfing armor were a must it was getting very tedious seeing people with pure Strength specs and Lordly Plate, not only does it not have a single thing to do with skills but it is also extremely idiotic in terms of game-play. Even on my self a lot of people have been bouncing hits that should really have went through, stupid.
Hopefully the battlefield will be more even now with the new changes.