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Title: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: kinngrimm on November 04, 2011, 12:35:18 am
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Diplomatic Relations



In due time we may grow like sand rising in a storm.


EDIT:changed diplomatic relations
EDIT2:made it dashing
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance:Desert Alliance
Post by: kinngrimm on November 04, 2011, 12:37:14 am
confirmed
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance:Desert Alliance
Post by: ryanwilson140 on November 04, 2011, 12:42:18 am
Confirmed
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance:Desert Alliance
Post by: Frankysan on November 04, 2011, 12:44:55 am
confirmed
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance:Desert Alliance
Post by: Xant on November 04, 2011, 12:51:13 am
refuted
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance:Desert Alliance
Post by: Matey on November 04, 2011, 12:52:38 am
refuted

confirmed
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance:Desert Alliance
Post by: Casimir on November 04, 2011, 01:04:49 am
I confirm
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance:Desert Alliance
Post by: TomMyyY on November 04, 2011, 01:06:48 am
Confirmed
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance:Desert Alliance
Post by: Xant on November 04, 2011, 01:15:21 am
confirmed
confirmal of refuting confirmed
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance:Desert Alliance
Post by: Braeden on November 04, 2011, 01:16:14 am
confirmal of refuting confirmed
I refute the confirmation of the confirmed refute.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance:Desert Alliance
Post by: Matey on November 04, 2011, 01:17:41 am
I refute the confirmation of the confirmed refute.

i confirm the refutation of the confirmation of the confirmed refute.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance:Desert Alliance
Post by: PhantomZero on November 04, 2011, 01:30:51 am
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Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Kansuke on November 04, 2011, 02:22:04 am
Non-factor Alliance would fit better imho.

KEKEKEKEKE
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: SeQuel on November 04, 2011, 06:56:22 am
Desert Alliance will become the EU Northern Empire.

DA 1.0.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: okiN on November 04, 2011, 07:41:35 am
You forgot to list CamelS, CotGS and French Connection. Or are you ashamed of them? :lol:
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Frankysan on November 04, 2011, 03:02:29 pm
You forgot to list CamelS, CotGS and French Connection. Or are you ashamed of them? :lol:
you forgot to wash your mouth with sand?
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Casimir on November 04, 2011, 03:16:02 pm
Landless factions are not currently classified as beligerents.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Corsair831 on November 05, 2011, 12:00:29 am
nay, i predict the nords will rule the desert. Like they did in history.

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_%28film%29
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Niemand on November 07, 2011, 01:29:46 pm
You forgot to list CamelS, CotGS and French Connection. Or are you ashamed of them? :lol:
You Moron, we are written CotgS. lowercase g. Goddamnit. Cant be that hard, aight? Also, even if we are in that alliance we are not worth to be named yet. And now, dear Nords... grow some balls and stop buffing the equipment you have for your battles. Start playing fair! :O
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: BlueGreen on November 07, 2011, 05:30:42 pm
Hi my faction is BlueStar can i please join the Desert Alliance? thanks :)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Niemand on November 07, 2011, 06:20:32 pm
BlueStar? You may wanna consider that choice of name. Rename it to "GreenStar", then you can be the vasall of CotgS. :D

For joining the alliance you may want to add Wolves_Kinngrimm in steam ("kinngrimm") and talk to him.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Kafein on November 07, 2011, 07:11:40 pm
BlueGreen !!!! <3 <3 <3
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Casimir on November 07, 2011, 08:02:45 pm
Blue green can be the new des dope. Unless of cource we get des dope.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: kinngrimm on November 28, 2011, 05:21:20 pm
I am proud to call Hospitallers and Occitans my friends and hereby want to make it official that they are now part of the Desert Alliance.

People tried to make me waver and break my word against those i first gave it to. After this was done several times we kept our ongoing cooperation silent, the silence ends here. My swordarm fights for Hospitallers and Occitan.


rooooaaaaaaar
kinngrimm
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: ryanwilson140 on November 28, 2011, 05:35:18 pm
Hospitallers and Occitan are now our allies. 


GOD WILLS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Tuetensuppe on November 28, 2011, 05:38:23 pm
i confirm Hospittalers and Occitan as our alliance partners


greetings
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Daniel on November 28, 2011, 05:46:15 pm
Confirmed.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Rogue on November 28, 2011, 06:06:56 pm
This certainly comes as a surprise! The lesson to be learned here is: never trust a single word of kinngrimm, apparently he is even willing to break an alliance treaty to join the supposed stronger side. We will certainly not forget this!
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Matey on November 28, 2011, 06:42:23 pm
well, didnt he bail on hosp/occ when they were losing badly? but now as soon as they are looking OK again he switches sides again. He did the same thing last strat; so to summarize... kinngrimm is looking out for his own ass and will switch sides whenever it seems beneficial to do so... I like kinngrimm well enough, but that is my observation of his "loyalty" in strat.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Rhygar666 on November 28, 2011, 06:45:54 pm
oh wonder, Kingrimm lost all credibility right there nuff said
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 28, 2011, 06:54:59 pm
Heyyyyy, don't be too hard on him, its just a game and we all have a tendency to choose sides and try to keep our clans alive. 

Though I find it interesting they ignore DRZ and allow them to gobble almost the entire desert without any fight, when they are called the desert alliance and instead their now 8 clan alliance decides to invade NA territory when they are all Europeans, in order to "join the Hosp and Occ fight".  EUs never fight their own, its the way of the world, CAREBEAR ALLIANCE POWER!!!
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: kinngrimm on November 28, 2011, 07:03:23 pm
This certainly comes as a surprise! The lesson to be learned here is: never trust a single word of kinngrimm, apparently he is even willing to break an alliance treaty to join the supposed stronger side. We will certainly not forget this!
the lesson to be learned, is don't force someone into an alliance. I have made with all of you an effort to establish relations at some point, mostly i was either ignored or was asked to be a vassal in last strategus. This round i started with a plan and got within the first days after the new map was released the first clans onto it. After the release of strat3.0 the next clans joined in and we made an alliance.
Those clans gave up other options, plans possibilities they had and gave me their word, i never had the intention to brake my word and backstab those who i gave it to me first.

This will be like this in another strategus version, if you agree on something in the start with me i will stick to that as long you stick with me. If you try to make me brake my word even as i told many what my plans would be and who is for these plans, you need to live with it that you get paid in the same currency. How much better is the person trying to split up friends and alliances then the person who sticks to those he gave initially his word to and uses those pulled that crap onto him.

I saw the possibilities of the new map split, defined a goal, got friends/alliance partners motivated for it and then whatever comes next is just part of the game to reach those goals.

I am not proud of the deception, i wont give you crap that you fall for it, i will remain respecting those clans on the opposite site. If you do the same, that is up to you.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: kinngrimm on November 28, 2011, 07:05:24 pm
well, didnt he bail on hosp/occ when they were losing badly? but now as soon as they are looking OK again he switches sides again. He did the same thing last strat; so to summarize... kinngrimm is looking out for his own ass and will switch sides whenever it seems beneficial to do so... I like kinngrimm well enough, but that is my observation of his "loyalty" in strat.
i never bailed on them, all my partners were informed about the ruse from the beginning.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: kinngrimm on November 28, 2011, 07:09:05 pm
Heyyyyy, don't be too hard on him, its just a game and we all have a tendency to choose sides and try to keep our clans alive. 

Though I find it interesting they ignore DRZ and allow them to gobble almost the entire desert without any fight, when they are called the desert alliance and instead their now 8 clan alliance decides to invade NA territory when they are all Europeans, in order to "join the Hosp and Occ fight".  EUs never fight their own, its the way of the world, CAREBEAR ALLIANCE POWER!!!
out of our alliance, there is not one EU clan which intends to have an NA terretory in the long run, shortly perhaps for taking stuff if needed but not to keep it.
I can't speak for DRZ they are making their own game, if they want to attack the DA, it is their choice to do so.
Names can be changed, if we find a better name i let you know.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Nebun on November 28, 2011, 07:10:04 pm
Heyyyyy, don't be too hard on him, its just a game and we all have a tendency to choose sides and try to keep our clans alive. 

Though I find it interesting they ignore DRZ and allow them to gobble almost the entire desert without any fight, when they are called the desert alliance and instead their now 8 clan alliance decides to invade NA territory when they are all Europeans, in order to "join the Hosp and Occ fight".  EUs never fight their own, its the way of the world, CAREBEAR ALLIANCE POWER!!!

Yes Kesh, we got a lot of land, its now full, and we need more. Mmmm yours looks sexy! :) We all miss our home in the north too.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 28, 2011, 07:13:03 pm
Yes Kesh, we got a lot of land, its now full, and we need more. Mmmm yours looks sexy! :) We all miss our home in the north too.

Lulz.  Your 120 man clan (including sub-clans of DRZ) did fill up that space pretty quick.  Need to cut down on the vodka and cheetoes, you will fit better.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Valdian on November 28, 2011, 07:29:00 pm
Comfirmed Let the alliance be strong
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Rogue on November 28, 2011, 07:40:20 pm
the lesson to be learned, is don't force someone into an alliance. I have made with all of you an effort to establish relations at some point, mostly i was either ignored or was asked to be a vassal in last strategus. This round i started with a plan and got within the first days after the new map was released the first clans onto it. After the release of strat3.0 the next clans joined in and we made an alliance.
Those clans gave up other options, plans possibilities they had and gave me their word, i never had the intention to brake my word and backstab those who i gave it to me first.

This will be like this in another strategus version, if you agree on something in the start with me i will stick to that as long you stick with me. If you try to make me brake my word even as i told many what my plans would be and who is for these plans, you need to live with it that you get paid in the same currency. How much better is the person trying to split up friends and alliances then the person who sticks to those he gave initially his word to and uses those pulled that crap onto him.

I saw the possibilities of the new map split, defined a goal, got friends/alliance partners motivated for it and then whatever comes next is just part of the game to reach those goals.

I am not proud of the deception, i wont give you crap that you fall for it, i will remain respecting those clans on the opposite site. If you do the same, that is up to you.

We did not force you to do anything. In the first meeting, when all involved parties talked about peace in the desert and an alliance, I have personally asked you about your stance on Hospitaller/Occitan and their war in the steppe, which you claimed to be neutral. You basically lied to us from the beginning and for one reason only, because you were getting the shorter end of the stick in the war against Nord/Byzantium/Kapikulu in the desert. After this alliance had its use for you, when Bashis were coming with 3600 troops, you switched sides again. You even went through with this until the last minute, you were privy to all plans we made as a reaction to the approaching Bashi armies, when and where we would send help to Kapikulu, only to have the supposed help turn into hostile troops trying to intercept these reinforcements.
Matey summed this up pretty good.

Some amount of underhand dealing and scheming is completely fine and it certainly its a lot of flavour to the game. But this degree of self-serving treachery is something I wouldn't even do in EU3, where I have a reputation of being rather ruthless. You have lost all credibility and no amount of completed unrelated talk about past rounds is going to take anything away from it.

In the end you do not even stick to what you said to me a few minutes earlier on TS, that you won't try to deny or white-wash what you did, by starting your own reply with some fairy tale about being "forced into an alliance".
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Matey on November 28, 2011, 07:46:56 pm
not to be a dick or anything... but im pretty sure i told you and loki that wolves would betray you at the first opportunity.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Graf_Hodenschaf on November 28, 2011, 07:47:43 pm
Confirmed ( even when im only the diplomat, it feels like making me special  :mrgreen: )
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on November 28, 2011, 07:50:25 pm
To all the people with no clue what is going on, heres a brief summary of the Wolves and Kinngrimms actions this round of strat:

- Made an alliance with the Pecores, Templars, Occitan, Hospitaller, CotGs and Camels intending on taking this territory: http://www.hizliupload.com/di-MHVF.png

- Obviously got trouble with the local factions and therefore brought a war on themselves and their allies.

- As soon as the war was going against them, the Wolves turned their backs to the Occitan and Hospitallers. ("What about your alliance with the Occitan and Hospitallers? What is your affection to them?", Kinngrimm: "They doesn't matter")

- Later on Fallens starts to get pressed by the Occitan/Hospitaller, and as soon as the Byzantium turns inactive, the kapikulu needs help and the Ravens show up to attack, they turn their back on their friends and remake their old alliance.

Nice show Kinngrimm, nice show. I was actually starting to trust you. 
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Niemand on November 28, 2011, 07:52:39 pm
When HRE is whining...

east-germany drowns in a "Jahrhundert-Flut" (Yearhundred-flood) again. Fast West-Germany! Bring them some sandsacks! :O
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Cicero on November 28, 2011, 07:55:28 pm
You are no match for us deal with it.2500 troops waiting at tamnuh still how many reinforcements u gonna send to mawiti ? They already started running away from mawiti.

And HRE talking about respect and dignity ? Yes thats why yesterday your diplomat came to my teamspeak and talked about living in peace which 30 minutes after i saw your reinforce to kapıkulu haha smart move which failed seems like they are running away with that reinforce also haha.

HRE u acted already disrespectful so your words are empty to answer one big question :

Why did Godlike_HRE come to me yesterday ?
convince?
confuse?
congrats?

you are next HRE , you are next.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 28, 2011, 07:56:45 pm

- Made an alliance with the Pecores, Templars, Occitan, Hospitaller, CotGs and Camels intending on taking this territory: http://www.hizliupload.com/di-MHVF.png



Looks like Camels got shafted on most of their claims by the desert alliance giving up the desert.

And seriously Cicero, your clanmates must cringe when you hop on Teamspeak, you sound like you must be so fucking annoying to talk to in real life.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Serfonz on November 28, 2011, 07:58:40 pm
The sand in this desert is starting to turn red, what are you people doing up there?
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Erasmas on November 28, 2011, 07:59:35 pm
Kesh, do you guys really need Jelbegi?
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Cicero on November 28, 2011, 07:59:52 pm
And seriously Cicero, your clanmates must cringe when you hop on Teamspeak, you sound like you must be so fucking annoying to talk to in real life.
ignored.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Niemand on November 28, 2011, 08:00:56 pm
Why did Godlike_HRE come to me yesterday ?
convince?
confuse?
congrats?
Ah, the dear Kamil. Tell him some regards from Niemand aka Cerrado. I want my bike back. XD

The sand in this desert is starting to turn red, what are you people doing up there?
Fuck you, its turning green!
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Matey on November 28, 2011, 08:01:03 pm
Kesh, do you guys really need Jelbegi?

whats wrong with jelbegi?
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Serfonz on November 28, 2011, 08:01:38 pm
Fuck you, its turning green!

Green? I dun geddit.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Erasmas on November 28, 2011, 08:02:24 pm
whats wrong with jelbegi?

Nothing, it is lovely  :D
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Niemand on November 28, 2011, 08:03:39 pm
Green? I dun geddit.

Cuz we are the Children of the green Sun. And we do not want any red. Also, thanks to those huge amount of those sweet HRE-Tears we can water the whole desert and grow some nice clean weed.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Peppovitch on November 28, 2011, 08:04:15 pm
Confirmed by the Leper.  Also hilarious to see all the people trying to coin what actually happened and why.  Point being, the unholy alliance got played at their own game this time around and they seem pretty butt hurt about getting duped.  Good job trying to get Wolves to betray us.  Worked wonders for you I'm sure.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Serfonz on November 28, 2011, 08:04:43 pm
Cuz we are the Children of the green Sun. And we do not want any red. Also, thanks to those huge amount of those sweet HRE-Tears we can water the whole desert and grow some nice clean weed.

The GodKing Serfonz demands you trade some of your weed with the minions of Aab.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Niemand on November 28, 2011, 08:05:37 pm
I dont need minions. I need more HRE-Tears! :D

You go attack them and you get some weed.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: ryanwilson140 on November 28, 2011, 08:05:56 pm
POTATOES!!!
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 28, 2011, 08:06:45 pm
Nothing, it is lovely  :D

Its also North American ping. :).  I know UIF is still strong (just look at all you guys in force in defense of neutral fiefs up in the Northwest because 22nd "claimed" that land), but I can't think of a better way to get most of the NA clans to stop in-fighting and unite as one, then for the biggest EU clan that is part of an unofficial alliance of 75% of the EU players to start trying to take NA fiefs because they refuse to fight any EU players.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Serfonz on November 28, 2011, 08:07:00 pm
The Minions of Aab are not interested in your feud's, we are only interested in the weed.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Niemand on November 28, 2011, 08:07:58 pm
No feuds, no weed. easy thing.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Valdian on November 28, 2011, 08:08:56 pm
To all the people with no clue what is going on, heres a brief summary of the Wolves and Kinngrimms actions this round of strat:

- Made an alliance with the Pecores, Templars, Occitan, Hospitaller, CotGs and Camels intending on taking this territory: http://www.hizliupload.com/di-MHVF.png

- Obviously got trouble with the local factions and therefore brought a war on themselves and their allies.

- As soon as the war was going against them, the Wolves turned their backs to the Occitan and Hospitallers. ("What about your alliance with the Occitan and Hospitallers? What is your affection to them?", Kinngrimm: "They doesn't matter")

- Later on Fallens starts to get pressed by the Occitan/Hospitaller, and as soon as the Byzantium turns inactive, the kapikulu needs help and the Ravens show up to attack, they turn their back on their friends and remake their old alliance.

Nice show Kinngrimm, nice show. I was actually starting to trust you.


Well Technicly the old alliance never broke Wolves and Hospitallers made a fake war while remaining together for trade while we kept things hidden from all even most officers didnt know what was happening other then myself and a few others.  For that I apologize to all Hospitallers,Occitan and LL but it needed to be done.
Let it be known that Kinngrimm of the Wolves never breaks his first agreement and is always true to his first Alliances and for that I give him my shield.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Harpag on November 28, 2011, 08:09:16 pm
 :)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: ryanwilson140 on November 28, 2011, 08:09:46 pm
Kesh I didnt realise that HRE were American. MY BAD!
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Serfonz on November 28, 2011, 08:11:23 pm
Fine, we will grow our own weed!

This desert seriously is a death zone, everyone seems to want to kill each other over it, it is such a lovely place. But so small, so small.
I will be watching this war with my feet up, I better be entertained!
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: neupreis on November 28, 2011, 08:12:10 pm
You are no match for us deal with it.2500 troops waiting at tamnuh still how many reinforcements u gonna send to mawiti ? They already started running away from mawiti.

And HRE talking about respect and dignity ? Yes thats why yesterday your diplomat came to my teamspeak and talked about living in peace which 30 minutes after i saw your reinforce to kapıkulu haha smart move which failed seems like they are running away with that reinforce also haha.

HRE u acted already disrespectful so your words are empty to answer one big question :

Why did Godlike_HRE come to me yesterday ?
convince?
confuse?
congrats?

you are next HRE , you are next.

Sorry, i dont understand really my mistake.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on November 28, 2011, 08:17:48 pm
Yawn :P

this is all rather futile, lets just have some good fights ok? Wolves, Templars, Bashibazouks, it really makes no difference to me as long as I see blood!  :twisted:
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: SittingBull on November 28, 2011, 08:20:57 pm
Just going to say, I don't support any attempts by EU clans to push into NA territory. At all.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Niemand on November 28, 2011, 08:22:54 pm
Sorry, i dont understand really my mistake.
Cuz you suck at english, dude.

as a translation, only for Kamil:

Quote
Warum ist Godlike_HRG gestern zu mir gekommen?
überzeugen?
verwirren?
gratulieren?
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: neupreis on November 28, 2011, 08:24:06 pm
Cuz you suck at english, dude.

as a translation, only for Kamil:
But i dont undertand this in german still. Maybe in polish?
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on November 28, 2011, 08:25:26 pm
Some amount of underhand dealing and scheming is completely fine and it certainly its a lot of flavour to the game. But this degree of self-serving treachery is something I wouldn't even do in EU3, where I have a reputation of being rather ruthless. You have lost all credibility and no amount of completed unrelated talk about past rounds is going to take anything away from it.

I herby confirm and let there be known that Rogue is the most scheming, evil blackmailing and poweraddicted EU3 player i ever had the honor to play with.
(Dont vassalise me Rogue! Please! I swear i will be nice and behave!)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 28, 2011, 08:33:40 pm
Just going to say, I don't support any attempts by EU clans to push into NA territory. At all.

100% agree.  But almost no EU clans fight other EU clans, which is kind of sad with the whole split NA/EU was supposed to allow everyone the freedom to always fight on their own ping, but when everyone unofficially allies with everyone else, its kind of difficult to have real wars on your side of the map.  We don't seem to have the same trouble on NA side actually having fun, playing the game and actually fighting battles.  Must be really fricken boring for the grunts that their leaders are so scared of not being in one mega-alliance. 

Only possible solution is to dissolve that one mega alliance that has survived and grown in size since strat 1 and actually fight and have fun, unless you think your everyday players would love to spend all of strat 3 fighting on NA ping.  Really think about it - how many large EU clans right now are surrounded on all sides by "unofficial allies."  Isn't that boring and lame??
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Matey on November 28, 2011, 08:41:16 pm
rogue is a monster! when i was just a newbie lad he said he would take me under his wing and teach me the ways of EU3, so I played as his vassal (brandenburg), but as soon as he got a core on one of my provinces he started talking about how he was going to take over my nation bit by bit! so when i declared independence in the hopes of being treated as a just and friendly equal... he declared war and destroyed everything i had. MONSTER.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Noctivagant on November 28, 2011, 08:45:03 pm
You cannot make a deal with us anymore period
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on November 28, 2011, 08:50:49 pm
rogue is a monster! when i was just a newbie lad he said he would take me under his wing and teach me the ways of EU3, so I played as his vassal (brandenburg), but as soon as he got a core on one of my provinces he started talking about how he was going to take over my nation bit by bit! so when i declared independence in the hopes of being treated as a just and friendly equal... he declared war and destroyed everything i had. MONSTER.
sounds soooooo familiar
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 28, 2011, 08:53:02 pm
sounds soooooo familiar

Finally got the updated version of EU3.  Should join up and help Brandenburg with some of Swiss pikes.  We are against tyrants (unless they give us a  lot of gold, then they are great and noble leaders).
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: BattalGazi on November 28, 2011, 08:53:45 pm
This is sad.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: arowaine on November 28, 2011, 08:54:35 pm
confirmed
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: kinngrimm on November 28, 2011, 08:57:31 pm
Rogue, semantics, forced may be too tough, but what choice have i had?

Kesh, any claims taken by desert alliance will be split in a way that NA clans have NA claims and EU clans have EU claims. WTF are you talking about dude i am allied with NA clans not conspiring to take all NA claims. I should stick to what Nocti told me last strat, just ignore Kesh.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Matey on November 28, 2011, 08:59:03 pm
I can't argue with that advice.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 28, 2011, 09:05:24 pm
I can't argue with that advice.

Me either.   :lol: :D  :)  :shock:  :?  :(  :cry:
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 28, 2011, 09:53:09 pm
I see xandhold_Wolper attacking Hospitaller_Troyicide tomorrow at 5pm CST.  So much for the wolves alliance with hospitaller :)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 28, 2011, 10:00:10 pm
I see xandhold_Wolper attacking Hospitaller_Troyicide tomorrow at 5pm CST.  So much for the wolves alliance with hospitaller :)

Lol, Wolper i spart of Wolpertingers clan, which is a distinct clan separate from Wolves.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 28, 2011, 10:11:29 pm
And the BRD propaganda/troll machine starts rolling its greasy gears and charcoal smoke starts comming out of their asses with weird steam piston noises (almost as bad as LLJK),
why anyone pays even the slightest attention to the ramblings of that old pile of scrap is beyond me.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Darkkarma on November 28, 2011, 10:14:04 pm
An interesting turn of events. Good luck with this new pact.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 28, 2011, 10:28:53 pm
Lol, Wolper i spart of Wolpertingers clan, which is a distinct clan separate from Wolves.

that makes sense then. too many wolf variations me to try and care to keep track of :)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on November 28, 2011, 10:30:29 pm
that makes sense then. too many wolf variations me to try and care to keep track of :)

I thought all wolves were easily identified by the wolves tag and banner :P
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Tomas on November 28, 2011, 10:32:29 pm
I can't really object to what the Wolves have done - it looks like a very well played scheme to me although i do wonder what the wolves would have done if Dugan had been taken and the hospitallers/occitans completely thrown our of the Steppe.  We will never know the answer to that I guess.

What I do find a little hard to stomach is the attempt to claim some sort of moral high ground.  If you want to play the game by lying and scheming behind peoples back then at least have the good grace to admit it.  It is a perfectly acceptable (and historically accurate ;) ) way of playing the game so why be embarrassed by it?

Or are you embarrassed becuase whether you like it or not you will now be playing the rest of Strat 3.0 (and future itterations) according to the UIF tune?  You are either their Vassal or their rival and turning on Kapikulu sure says Vassal to me :D
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: kinngrimm on November 28, 2011, 10:59:36 pm
I can't really object to what the Wolves have done - it looks like a very well played scheme to me although i do wonder what the wolves would have done if Dugan had been taken and the hospitallers/occitans completely thrown our of the Steppe.  We will never know the answer to that I guess.

What I do find a little hard to stomach is the attempt to claim some sort of moral high ground.  If you want to play the game by lying and scheming behind peoples back then at least have the good grace to admit it.  It is a perfectly acceptable (and historically accurate ;) ) way of playing the game so why be embarrassed by it?

Or are you embarrassed becuase whether you like it or not you will now be playing the rest of Strat 3.0 (and future itterations) according to the UIF tune?  You are either their Vassal or their rival and turning on Kapikulu sure says Vassal to me :D
1. i don't deny i lied, schemed, mislead and descephed
2. i don't brag about it nor am i proud of it that i did so, i am not embarrassed only surprised that i was able to do it as i didn't do such a thing since i was 7 years took a coin out of my mothers purse and lied(not succesfully about it later[no idear how she found out ... damn ;) ])
3. i am totally fine with myself doing what i did and wont loose any sleep over it, simply because it was at the time it started the best possible way to play the players
4. am i a bad person because of it? If you believe in any higher beings, ask them perhaps those can judge objectivly
5. Vassal of who? Funny thing, sure all clans in our DA are just taking orders from their imaginary Protector ... UIF
6. i did what i had to do to secure the goals of many clans, so i can give them what they want
7. if i would want to claim moral high ground i would inform you about the Dustruil Situation, but i don't like to be the sissy telling anyone how someone else may or may not abuse teh game mechanics because they have no chance otherwise, i would suggest you get that information somewhere else.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 28, 2011, 11:13:26 pm
I thought all wolves were easily identified by the wolves tag and banner :P

sometimes clans use variations and things are changed from native languages to english.  you may keep track of all the clans that are in strategus, i sure as fuck don't.  cookie for you.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Noctivagant on November 28, 2011, 11:17:30 pm
yadayadayadayadayada

You acknowledge or not you are part of UIF from now on. Sooner or later, if your current allies are out of the picture, do you think your old allies will let you go with the show you pulled? of course not and its natural that you gonna go seek help of someone and it would be UIF.

Lets say, your current allies are not defeated and you guys are doing fine. Perfect, but do you think your old allies, any of of them, would make a deal with you again? no. So you are stuck with UIF again. You better acknowledge it.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: kinngrimm on November 28, 2011, 11:21:30 pm
yadayadayadayadayada
whatever
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Matey on November 28, 2011, 11:24:40 pm
UIF is the perfect ally for wolves, since the only way to keep them loyal is with a big sword to their throat and who but UIF can afford to keep pointing a sword at someone to ensure loyalty indefinetly? the second HRE/Fallen needed to point the sword at someone else the wolves switched sides.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Casimir on November 28, 2011, 11:25:25 pm
I'm flattered that people think the UIF would want to have anything to do with us, surely we are measly and insignificant compared to their vastness and they could crush us if they even cared?
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Matey on November 28, 2011, 11:26:15 pm
I'm flattered that people think the UIF would want to have anything to do with us, surely we are measly and insignificant compared to their vastness and they could crush us if they even cared?

but you are more useful to them as you are now.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Xant on November 28, 2011, 11:28:21 pm
Some find meta games with spying interesting and thrilling, may be so, i find it just ugly to fuck with the trust of those who reach out their hands in friendship.

Quote
<kinngrimm> he knows, i am not much of an secret , behind the clsoed door, backstab guy , at least i hope i am not :)

Erhhh. Nice move from a tactical point of view by Wolves & Co, but Kinngrim's proven himself to not be a man of his word.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Zaharist on November 28, 2011, 11:30:11 pm
I didn't read the whole thread and seems that I miss something vital. But 5 pages is toooo much for me! Have mercy!
Can someone pleeeeeeease tell me in 2 words why do ppl start calling UIF name again and again? I thought UIF no longer exist since destruction of Templar scum during Strat2 endspiel.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Osiris on November 28, 2011, 11:33:21 pm
so the jist of this is?

Fallen/turks/HRE tried to make wolves betray us and allies. Wolves said yes? Then betrayed you so you got hit by the allies you tried to get wolves to betray. Is that the general jist of the whole thing?
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Serfonz on November 28, 2011, 11:35:27 pm
I didn't read the whole thread and seems that I miss something vital. But 5 pages is toooo much for me! Have mercy!
Can someone pleeeeeeease tell me in 2 words why do ppl start calling UIF name again and again? I thought UIF no longer exist since destruction of Templar scum during Strat2 endspiel.

None believe the UIF is gone Zaharist they think its now a secret underground Alliance which schemes for the domination of Calradia in dark alleyways.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Osiris on November 28, 2011, 11:36:51 pm
Strat2 endspiel <----you mean strat 1 right? :P
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Noctivagant on November 28, 2011, 11:39:17 pm
but you are more useful to them as you are now.

There many advantages of UIF :

1 Casual gaming, easy mode, no opposition. Capture your fiefs easily
2 Shiny, happy people laughing, no rivalry lots of lovin'
3 Free Russian course, "Соси членяру! вам хана ))))))) мы вас ёб....ем =Р", additional Turkish and Polish courses.

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Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Valdian on November 28, 2011, 11:39:28 pm
Erhhh. Nice move from a tactical point of view by Wolves & Co, but Kinngrim's proven himself to not be a man of his word.

Your Wrong Kinngrim is a man of his word he Agreed to a alliance with Hospitallers since the start of strat. Most of our higher ups knew what was going on and in the end he Returned when his Task was done he Returned  to our Alliance which truly never ended which was merly a Ruse.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Xant on November 28, 2011, 11:40:16 pm
Your Wrong Kinngrim is a man of his word he Agreed to a alliance with Hospitallers since the start of strat. Most of our higher ups knew what was going on and in the end he Returned when his Task was done he Returned  to our Alliance which truly never ended which was merly a Ruse.

That's not how it works. You're not a man of your word if you only keep some of your promises.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: BaldRider on November 28, 2011, 11:41:18 pm
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Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Osiris on November 28, 2011, 11:42:36 pm
Strat comes and goes but a Players Reputation lives on.

I dont understand why people pull crap to get temporary gain on strat that gets reset. People wont just forget about it because it ends :P (this isnt aimed at kingrimm as i dont know what went on) but it seems that all sides tried to pull off this shit and only one worked.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Zaharist on November 28, 2011, 11:45:56 pm
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Cause everyone is a master conspiracy theorist and think the UIF has its hand in everything. :p
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Xant on November 28, 2011, 11:45:59 pm
Strat comes and goes but a Players Reputation lives on.

I dont understand why people pull crap to get temporary gain on strat that gets reset. People wont just forget about it because it ends :P (this isnt aimed at kingrimm as i dont know what went on) but it seems that all sides tried to pull off this shit and only one worked.

There's a huge difference between asking one of the enemy factions to defect and backstabbing your allies at the worst possible moment, though. "Join us or die" etc is just basic stuff, not really treacherous.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Harpag on November 29, 2011, 12:04:08 am
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Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 29, 2011, 12:11:35 am
22nd still didn't capture any villages, greys started long after many eu and na clans,

22nd never attacked a fief until someone captured one of their claimed fiefs for them, but the defense of that village before they attacked was absolutely full of DRZ, GRey order, and 22nd.

Also, Wolves battle upcoming against Turks - 8 clan alliance, 150 players available to fight for them inside their clans alone - already a  bunch of DRZ and Grey Order hired for their side. (more DRZ than Templars, more Greys than Pecores, who are you real, main allies???)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Nessaj on November 29, 2011, 12:32:47 am
Well you take the best you can get, whether they're friendlies or whatever. We had a few people from the "UIF" or 'western clans' (whatever you want to label it) fighting with us in the Desert war during the beginning, that doesn't mean we're not still independent.

It is hard to fill a perfect roster in terms of classes, most likely impossible for almost all factions except the really large ones, and even so I'm confident they would prefer a few outsiders to fill the ranks properly unless they're doing a strict clan only thing.

+ Now you get XP, I'm looking for any battle I can sign really.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: BattalGazi on November 29, 2011, 12:35:46 am
I have to also note down that I'm also requested not to betray the ones who betrayed us and betray the only clan who didn't betray us at all. If you can solve this puzzle, you'll find the innocent clan among all :) Sorry guys, now I'm playing the bad guy ...
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 12:39:52 am
this is so much fun to read :))

We will come clean!

THE CONFESSION: Part 1: Ugly truth.

Wolves, Templars, Nords, Pecores, Legio, Cotgs, Occitan , Union, Risen, Raven, Kapukulu, Woleper, Bashi, GK, 22nd, GO, Hospitaller, LLJK, Chaos, Hate and even ATS are all in UIF, and this war they had between each other is just to confuse u all. They worked with us from the start to establish world domination and enslave all other factions. We would together occupy all the territories and split between ourselves.
We would be sitting on our asses and laugh at all who lost, because this is the goal of strategus.
And how didn't u work it out that Kapikulu is our main spy clan, it was so obvious???? Do you honestly believe that 2 turkish clans like Kapikulu and Bashi would hate each other so much? You really believed in war and hate between them? :)) Just look at the map and battle list, Kapikulu passing over their territories to their allies Wolves.

Now some advetising:

Hey Soldier! Do you feel safe? Do you believe in ur current alliance? Do you have enough lands? If you can't say "YES" to any of those questions - join ranks of brave UIF members. Call us now and get a limited "WINTER UIF HAPPY HOLIDAYS" offer - nice NA lands currently occupied by other not UIF clans. In addition to that u will get free tickets to daily executions of non UIF members. And a little puppy with Kesh's wig attached to its head.

Now would be nice to finish this with some patriotic song. But our current Hymn isn't finished because Jon Bon Jovi is too drunk lately to finish writing it, it will come with the clip too.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Noctivagant on November 29, 2011, 12:47:49 am
22nd still didn't capture any villages, greys started long after many eu and na clans, STR and DRZ didn't help each other to capture fiefs (even as mercs due to limited amount of mercs before day X when THE MERCENARIES failed to kill some peasants  :D )

Well the truth is when your faction is taking a village you get 25 player resistance, when non UIF related faction is taking a village usually defending force is double of the attacking force.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Darkkarma on November 29, 2011, 12:52:26 am
this is so much fun to read :))

We will come clean!

THE CONFESSION: Part 1: Ugly truth.

Wolves, Templars, Nords, Pecores, Legio, Cotgs, Occitan , Union, Risen, Raven, Kapukulu, Woleper, Bashi, GK, 22nd, GO, Hospitaller, LLJK, Chaos, Hate and even ATS are all in UIF, and this war they had between each other is just to confuse u all. They worked with us from the start to establish world domination and enslave all other factions. We would together occupy all the territories and split between ourselves.
We would be sitting on our asses and laugh at all who lost, because this is the goal of strategus.
And how didn't u work it out that Kapikulu is our main spy clan, it was so obvious???? Do you honestly believe that 2 turkish clans like Kapikulu and Bashi would hate each other so much? You really believed in war and hate between them? :)) Just look at the map and battle list, Kapikulu passing over their territories to their allies Wolves.

Now some advetising:

Hey Soldier! Do you feel safe? Do you believe in ur current alliance? Do you have enough lands? If you can't say "YES" to any of those questions - join ranks of brave UIF members. Call us now and get a limited "WINTER UIF HAPPY HOLIDAYS" offer - nice NA lands currently occupied by other not UIF clans. In addition to that u will get free tickets to daily executions of non UIF members. And a little puppy with Kesh's wig attached to its head.

Now would be nice to finish this with some patriotic song. But our current Hymn isn't finished because Jon Bon Jovi is too drunk lately to finish writing it, it will come with the clip too.



Hi,

It's signed,

I can only approved.


DarkKarma
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Xant on November 29, 2011, 01:03:23 am
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((OOC: Wow dude, thanks a bunch. Just when I was getting really immersed, you come and completely shatter that immersion. Maybe read the diplomacy forum rules next time before you post(http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,20050.0.html) ??? Jeez, the nerve of some people...))
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: The_Angle on November 29, 2011, 01:06:46 am
i can onle

prove


sn,
         112tangle
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 02:16:30 am
I have to also note down that I'm also requested not to betray the ones who betrayed us and betray the only clan who didn't betray us at all.
please someone tell me, what he wants to say ?

Just understand a small thing: If you go aggressive on someone like mercs did ( applying against DRZ , Grey , Legio , Risen , Unıon , Bashi) result is really simple , those clans will apply against you also.
But the fact that u guys are loosing cant really understand and hate everyone on map except others.UIF is calling you lets stop fighting each other guys uif is changed his form since strat v1 now its gay bar and we breath to mic every week in our secret meetings and masturbate at the same time.

Solution:
Get some skills.
Even i can kill 5x fallen in 5vs1 including ramses the god
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Noctivagant on November 29, 2011, 02:55:42 am
please someone tell me, what he wants to say ?

Just understand a small thing: If you go aggressive on someone like mercs did ( applying against DRZ , Grey , Legio , Risen , Unıon , Bashi) result is really simple , those clans will apply against you also.
But the fact that u guys are loosing cant really understand and hate everyone on map except others.UIF is calling you lets stop fighting each other guys uif is changed his form since strat v1 now its gay bar and we breath to mic every week in our secret meetings and masturbate at the same time.

Solution:
Get some skills.
Even i can kill 5x fallen in 5vs1 including ramses the god

Is that so?

Well my friend, expect resistance from people when you simply

1 Lie to them (Grey Order about Thisbtin, selling our fief to STR and not telling us)
2 Ninja take their fief (STR taking Tshibtin and refusing to give it back)
3 Threaten them (Nebun on Merc Teamspeak threatening me about possible conflict with STR)
4 Write random bullshit about them on Russian forums (Hanhanich himself on DRZ forums)

and whats their reason to do that? Ruconquista and Byzantium were on our teamspeak. EDIT : and what was happening that day? Mercs were doing everything they can to stop FCC attacking to STR, just a lil reminder there.

We did not start this thing and you know it, we spoke about it 10.000 times. Even if its a suicide "We do not lick boots" and if you think that they are the victim now, I'd rather you stop speaking to me from now on, because you sound like you sold your soul to the rich boys.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 03:25:02 am
I was asked to act as a translator. And was bored with you not getting anywhere with your conversation with Union.

All I said was: that if u don't come to agreement they would attack u. And you was telling about the same thing to them. You wanted to attack them for holding Tishbin.
Same thing from both sides.
I was actually trying to help u solve ur problems. And if I remember correctly u came to an agreement.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Niemand on November 29, 2011, 03:39:28 am
Guys. What are Mercs doing in this thread? arent you in a completely other region? Go away! open your own thread! this is not about you. :(

Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Noctivagant on November 29, 2011, 03:40:50 am
I was asked to act as a translator. And was bored with you not getting anywhere with your conversation with Union.

All I said was: that if u don't come to agreement they would attack u. And you was telling about the same thing to them. You wanted to attack them for holding Tishbin.
Same thing from both sides.
I was actually trying to help u solve ur problems. And if I remember correctly u came to an agreement.

I listed the thing theyve done to us while we did nothing to them and I asked for recovery. Yes agreement was there until they chose to claim Tshibtin once again in Strat 3.0 and claiming Burglen and Kelredan castle without talking to us. We were thinking of giving Burglen and Kelredan anyway but Thisbtin is out of the picture. About that "aggression" people were fighting against you and I heard Ginger and Phazh were ASKED to lead the battle since there were no qualified commanders. Otherwise no merc can declare you as enemy without my permission. I dont have problems with DRZ. But yes I do have a problem with Hanhanich. He and 3APB single handedly caused all of the touble and I have to admit I was very disappointed when I heard Greys sold our fief to them.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Noctivagant on November 29, 2011, 03:43:18 am
Guys. What are Mercs doing in this thread? arent you in a completely other region? Go away! open your own thread! this is not about you. :(

I'm anti UIF we'll I've been forced to be Anti UIF by an UIF faction. Anything happens in favor of UIF, expect Mercs to flame about it.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jambi on November 29, 2011, 04:00:43 am
Be smart... join the enlightment. UIF is the new world, people live together in peace... reason, trust and honor the way of truth!

Begone with ye old fashion ways!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mim6AQIyzzw

Don't these talking monkeys know that
Eden has enough to go around?
Plenty in this holy garden, silly old monkeys,
Where there's one you're bound to divide it, right in two

Monkey, killing monkey, killing monkey
Over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs,
They forge a blade,
And when there's one they're bound to divide it,

Right in two.

Father blessed us all with reason, use this ability upon what you choose

Repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability
to lift an eye to heaven conscious of his fleeting time here

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 :lol: :P :wink:
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 04:14:24 am
nice Jambi :)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Niemand on November 29, 2011, 04:14:51 am
Okay. Nocti. Go away, Wolves are not your allies in this Strat so you loose like every of your battles? Now you flame around 'cuz youre mad and miss them, right? Just grow some balls and get over it. Youre alright as a person, but atm youre annoying.

Then the other things (even if Kinngrimm does not want me to say this but I dont care, this whining has to stop.):

- Kinngrimm formed the Desert Alliance with some factions (no exact list for you here, sry).
- He fought his battles with all of the mates of the DA.
- When they were successful and HRG were sucking their own blood they started to annoy him over and over again "Yo, switch sides, come to us, betray your initial allies!".
- One day Kinngrimm was too pissed-off. He thought "Those morons are going on my nerves and there is only one way to stop them, teach them a lesson and bring in some positive results for us." and he said Yes.
- And those IDIOTS (OMFG LOL!) believed him that he would switch to their side. I mean... come on. How dumb could you be to get fooled like that? Oo
- After that he showed them he fooled them and now theyre whining.
And because of their own dumbness Kinngrimm is the bad guy? Well... let me take over the role of the bad guy:
IF YOU ARE TOO MUCH OF A MORON AND GOT NO DIPLOMATIC SKILLS AT ALL... STOP PLAYING STRATEGUS! (or become a vassal or a supporter-faction).


And the UIF? Desert Alliance is not in a bound with them. They are just neighbours. Meeting in the Hallway or on the stairs from time to time, friendly greeting or nodding, maybe talking about some other people... like it is in a neighbourhood. There are no orders given or followed from any side.

So you stop to make any accusations at all, please? I will go back to growing my weed in the desert. And Serfonz you need HRG-Tears to grow it best.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 04:19:04 am
Niemand, no one will believe we are not together with your guys.
We tried to convince them we on our own, didn't work.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jambi on November 29, 2011, 04:20:16 am
- Kinngrimm formed the Desert Alliance with some factions

I love Kinngrimm, hes a very gentle person, loads of patience.. and always in a jolly mood. But when i read desert.. and alliance, i bet Kinngrimm will proof a fierce leader, and a force to be reckoned with!

After all
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is in his blood, running thru his vaines  :P

J/K Kinngrimm you know i love you man, wish you the best!  :wink:
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Niemand on November 29, 2011, 04:23:09 am
THE CONFESSION: Part 1: Ugly truth.

Wolves, Templars, Nords, Pecores, Legio, Cotgs, Occitan , Union, Risen, Raven, Kapukulu, Woleper, Bashi, GK, 22nd, GO, Hospitaller, LLJK, Chaos, Hate and even ATS are all in UIF,

GODDAMNIT! its a big S in the end! Learn that. All of you!
For you to remember, I prepared some graphical help:
CotgS



Niemand, no one will believe we are not together with your guys.
We tried to convince them we on our own, didn't work.
Yah. Maybe. But CotgS is not an official part of this alliance since were not a real force. So maybe those morons are gonna listen to me. If not: I don't care. May they run around with torches and look for Frankenstein's Monster...

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Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Noctivagant on November 29, 2011, 04:24:25 am
Niemand, no one will believe we are not together with your guys.
We tried to convince them we on our own, didn't work.

Why do you think that happened Nebun? because whole UIF thing forced Strategus turn into : "you are either with us or with them!" Black and white scenario. Btw Niemand I'll let Kinngrimm enlighten you about all the meetings that you've never been invited. You don't even know who do I talk to and when.

I don't know any other diplomat in this game like you who scares the shit out of me as i rarely know to what you are up to even after one whole strat as your contract partner. You form truth in your hands like a candle maker forms wax.

As Kinngrimm said himself I just like to squeeze candle wax in my hands.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jambi on November 29, 2011, 04:25:06 am
CotgS

See, i knew it! I am reading the CounterStrike forums! i noticed so much simularity lately!   8-)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jambi on November 29, 2011, 04:27:05 am
Why do you think that happened Nebun? because whole UIF thing forced Strategus turn into : "you are either with us or with them!" Black and white scenario.

No no not Black and White Nocti. We combined all the colours of our banners, to make a rainbow. Its so serene! like omg!

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Your never alone, dancing together... side by side thru stormy weather.

Peace too you
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Noctivagant on November 29, 2011, 04:27:56 am
No no not Black and White Nocti. We combined all the colours of our banner, to make a rainbow. Its so serene! like omg!

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you knew you had it coming...
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jambi on November 29, 2011, 04:35:39 am
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hehe :P
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Niemand on November 29, 2011, 04:36:52 am
Btw Niemand I'll let Kinngrimm enlighten you about all the meetings that you've never been invited. You don't even know who do I talk to and when.
You dont need to. I dont care. There is so much shit going on in the world and I am not invited. For me this is just a game. Something I play for fun or to get rid of my boredom. I dont need to stay up until 2 in the morning, talking broken english to guys that talk broken english just discussing about who moves what troops to where.

I prefer it like this:
<kinngrimm> Hey Niemand, move your 2500 Troops to Halmar and from there you're gonna attack HRE!
For the morons out there: This message was never sent, it is just an example. It tells me what you want me to do and why. Now I can decide if I want to attack them or not. No endless talking and discussing.



No no not Black and White Nocti. We combined all the colours of our banners, to make a rainbow. Its so serene! like omg!
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More green you moron! :O

Oh and there is no yellow. the HRG-guys are on the other side of the river.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: HarunYahya on November 29, 2011, 04:48:46 am
Sweet , sweet drama .
Strategus and UIF reminds me Revolver (Guy Ritchie's movie) and Sam Gold .
Quote me and type "FREE PANOŞ" if you agree !  8-)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: HarunYahya on November 29, 2011, 05:19:09 am
Sweet , sweet drama .
Strategus and UIF reminds me Revolver (Guy Ritchie's movie) and Sam Gold .
Quote me and type "FREE PANOŞ" if you agree !  8-)
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Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 05:20:22 am
Sweet , sweet drama .
Strategus and UIF reminds me Revolver (Guy Ritchie's movie) and Sam Gold .
Quote me and type "FREE PANOŞ" if you agree !  8-)

FREE PANOŞ
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 05:27:00 am
Is that so?

Well my friend, expect resistance from people when you simply

1 Lie to them (Grey Order about Thisbtin, selling our fief to STR and not telling us)
2 Ninja take their fief (STR taking Tshibtin and refusing to give it back)
3 Threaten them (Nebun on Merc Teamspeak threatening me about possible conflict with STR)
4 Write random bullshit about them on Russian forums (Hanhanich himself on DRZ forums)

and whats their reason to do that? Ruconquista and Byzantium were on our teamspeak. EDIT : and what was happening that day? Mercs were doing everything they can to stop FCC attacking to STR, just a lil reminder there.

We did not start this thing and you know it, we spoke about it 10.000 times. Even if its a suicide "We do not lick boots" and if you think that they are the victim now, I'd rather you stop speaking to me from now on, because you sound like you sold your soul to the rich boys.
It was an example.
We dont have any tactics ,leaders , soldiers we are bashibazouks irregulars we kill what we want even if its other side of map.If you make an aggression ofcourse we will work to delete you from map that was my main topic and its not about mercs just make it faction XxX. and i dont sell my soul to the rich boys cos i am a rich boy not like a poor one who serving him/herself to public

hello jambi =)
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wear the grudge like a crown, negativity.
calculate what we will, will not tolerate.
desperate to control all and everything.
unable to forgive your scarlet lettermen.


saturn ascends, comes round again.
saturn ascends, the one, the ten. ignorant to the damage done.

"Force , taken by force"
Marcus Tilius Cicero
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jambi on November 29, 2011, 05:30:21 am
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panush! has been spotted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZUfX7Gdw5g
he cannot bare, without CRPG

It was an example.
We dont have any tactics ,leaders , soldiers we are bashibazouks irregulars we kill what we want even if its other side of map.If you make an aggression ofcourse we will work to delete you from map that was my main topic and its not about mercs just make it faction XxX. and i dont sell my soul to the rich boys cos i am a rich boy not like a poor one who serving him/herself to public

hello jambi =)
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wear the grudge like a crown, negativity.
calculate what we will, will not tolerate.
desperate to control all and everything.
unable to forgive your scarlet lettermen.


saturn ascends, comes round again.
saturn ascends, the one, the ten. ignorant to the damage done.

"Force , taken by force"
Marcus Tilius Cicero


On the transitioni n this song... he sings.

"Choose to let this go". wich is the grudge.

Wich he basicly needs to, because he feels hes trapped and sinking deeper by bearing this crown

Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 05:37:10 am
i listened it more than 150 times jambi i am a fan of maynard james keenen for like 10 years =) those sentences are fitting the topic or i like to fit with those sentences =)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jambi on November 29, 2011, 05:40:18 am
i listened it more than 150 times jambi i am a fan of maynard james keenen for like 10 years =) those sentences are fitting the topic or i like to fit with those sentences =)

ooh yeah, true dat... alot of people on this thread have grudges.... wich in the end will only destroy themselves :D
Your spot on!

i should edit my post, i misunderstood you :?
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 05:43:35 am
ooh yeah, true dat... alot of people on this thread have grudges.... wich in the end will only destroy themselves :D
Your spot on!
well vicarious =)
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we need to see and pity on other people =)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jambi on November 29, 2011, 05:50:05 am
well vicarious =)
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we need to see and pity on other people =)


I disagree, i think its more of a choice. Its easier to hate, then to forgive. People mostly only change, when the need is the most (basicly when they break down) :D

The poetry that comes from the squaring off between,
And the circling is worth it.
Finding beauty in the dissonance.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 05:56:35 am
I HATE to HATE!!  :twisted:
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jambi on November 29, 2011, 06:04:55 am
well vicarious =)
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we need to see and pity on other people =)

Btw Cicero. Ever seen this clip ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKuaHg1qkVs

Most epic moment evah! :D
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jambi on November 29, 2011, 06:20:12 am
I HATE to HATE!!  :twisted:

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Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Vovka on November 29, 2011, 06:51:35 am
Well the truth is when your faction is taking a village you get 25 player resistance, when non UIF related faction is taking a village usually defending force is double of the attacking force.

  :lol: 1st 5-10 villages factions take with 31 vs 40-50
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Niemand on November 29, 2011, 07:05:33 am
I'm always signing up against DRZ. :D

Cuz I think they need some ppl to fight against. It is boring with no one to fight against. :(
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Casimir on November 29, 2011, 11:43:23 am
Why the fuck are we talking about UIF here?

Do they not have their own thread somewhere at the depths of the the forum archives gathering dust?

Anywya, i'll get to work on making a new pictare as soon as ive finished this essay :)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Gingerpussy on November 29, 2011, 01:24:09 pm
Mr Kinngrimm. I am just out of words. I truly am at this time. For all the people in Strategus to backstabb me, i never think you where one of them.

I teached you all you know of strategus 2.0 and now you backstabb me ? You go agaist people who cared you, feed you and hold ur arm when in trouble ?


I tell you what dear Kinngrimm, il wipe the Wolfes of the strat map if thats the last thing i do.

Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 02:49:28 pm
Btw Cicero. Ever seen this clip ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKuaHg1qkVs

Most epic moment evah! :D
actually i have near all concert clips ( including with tori amos ) but never see this one maybe cos of i hate rage against the machine =)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jambi on November 29, 2011, 02:49:54 pm
Mr Kinngrimm. I am just out of words. I truly am at this time. For all the people in Strategus to backstabb me, i never think you where one of them.

I teached you all you know of strategus 2.0 and now you backstabb me ? You go agaist people who cared you, feed you and hold ur arm when in trouble ?


I tell you what dear Kinngrimm, il wipe the Wolfes of the strat map if thats the last thing i do.

You know, uhm... its still only a game Mr. Ginger :lol:

Ever played Risk ?  :wink:
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Gnjus on November 29, 2011, 03:40:48 pm
Btw Cicero. Ever seen this clip ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKuaHg1qkVs

Most epic moment evah! :D

No, i think that the most epic moment evah was this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB4wtETkfg4



Mr Kinngrimm. I am just out of words. I truly am at this time. For all the people in Strategus to backstabb me, i never think you where one of them.

I teached you all you know of strategus 2.0 and now you backstabb me ? You go agaist people who cared you, feed you and hold ur arm when in trouble ?


I tell you what dear Kinngrimm, il wipe the Wolfes of the strat map if thats the last thing i do.

I don't know what just happened here but if i could get my hands on you motherfuckers I'd slap you so hard, all of you, in real life. Your faces would be red for days to come. Kinngrimm, Ginger, Nocti, Cicero........I know Kinngrimm is an old fart and i probably wouldn't have any problems with him but I'd even slap YOU, you bald kung-fu master Ginger at least once, so hard that it would hurt, even tho you'd probably break a few of my bones after that...........

I thought we were all friends here. Don't you see what they're doing ???? Separating us, getting us to slaughter each other so the russkies & poles can win easier........  :cry:

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Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on November 29, 2011, 03:52:21 pm
This may be the fact that I am not all that surprised about the current situation, but all this drama making must end :P You know when the badasses get betrayed in films they dont go and cry about it for ages, they usually look shocked, say a regretful sentence damning the traitor and then get the fuck on with it! So lets all stop being drama queens and lets start getting on with some fights!

I must be honest and say I am glad there is an actual war now, I for one enjoy the battles far more in strategus than the diplomacy, win or lose ;)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Gingerpussy on November 29, 2011, 04:02:30 pm
You know, uhm... its still only a game Mr. Ginger :lol:

Ever played Risk ?  :wink:

Hello Jambi. havent seen u for awhile. Yes its a game. But kinngrimm is more like a good buddy and stayed 20 hours a day on our TS for hole Strat 2.0 as u might remember as well.
When somone u know in game does it, then u get pissed and so on, but somone u had trustworthy and private conversation over along period of time backstabb you, then it hurts.

Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Gingerpussy on November 29, 2011, 04:05:36 pm
Gnjus il buy u a drink anyday :D
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Gnjus on November 29, 2011, 04:15:29 pm
Gnjus il buy u a drink anyday :D

NOW would be a good time as any.  :wink:
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on November 29, 2011, 04:18:31 pm
Quote
Ok, the initial plan in the desert was to form an alliance with us ( TheTurks ) , Byzantines , HRE, Fallen, Wolves and Templars to work together against the evil of the rest of other coalitions. And we did too. Every clan in this agreed on an alliance and held multiple meetings to discuss further plans.

I have not read all this thread but from the other thread...
 
I thought that was the coalition?
Why are Mercs so pissed off?

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Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 04:25:50 pm
And stop posting private conversations between clans on forum. Even if u pissed on them its not nice Nocti (and everyone else).
If I tell about our private conversations Nocti, you will get killed by your own friends or at list lose them.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Xant on November 29, 2011, 04:30:19 pm
The plot thickens...
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: kinngrimm on November 29, 2011, 04:34:16 pm
Hello Jambi. havent seen u for awhile. Yes its a game. But kinngrimm is more like a good buddy and stayed 20 hours a day on our TS for hole Strat 2.0 as u might remember as well.
When somone u know in game does it, then u get pissed and so on, but somone u had trustworthy and private conversation over along period of time backstabb you, then it hurts.
if it is any help to you Ginger, you know i told you my plans, you know i gave my word to those i told you about who are now officially my alliance partners and you know i asked you to be part of it and you know that i stay on track when i made up my mind. So when Nocti, Godlike, Ujin and others asked me over and over again to backstab those i gave my word to or so say it more formal, leave them behind. That just made me angry. Was it a badass move from me, sure, did i betray you? wft man i gave you every chance to be part of it, but like nocti you were like, meh we are here in our terretory we stay here, who wants to fight us should come and fight us and i was ok with that, when you(mercs) then began pressuring me to change my plans, that actually is something i don't want to see from a friend, i can understand it from a tactical point but come on mate as Gnjius said this is a game and i made my moves and played the players. So forgive me for trying to win and get my plans to work or don't that is not up to me mate.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Casimir on November 29, 2011, 04:39:09 pm
if it is any help to you Ginger, you know i told you my plans, you know i gave my word to those i told you about who are now officially my alliance partners and you know i asked you to be part of it and you know that i stay on track when i made up my mind. So when Nocti, Godlike, Ujin and others asked me over and over again to backstab those i gave my word to or so say it more formal, leave them behind. That just made me angry. Was it a badass move from me, sure, did i betray you? wft man i gave you every chance to be part of it, but like nocti you were like, meh we are here in our terretory we stay here, who wants to fight us should come and fight us and i was ok with that, when you(mercs) then began pressuring me to change my plans, that actually is something i don't want to see from a friend, i can understand it from a tactical point but come on mate as Gnjius said this is a game and i made my moves and played the players. So forgive me for trying to win and get my plans to work or don't that is not up to me mate.

To add to this we are sticking to our original aim, removal of herecy from the steppe and any lands that harbor heretics.

Comparing our allies in the first and second strat i know who i prfer and who is reliable.

Now prepare to recieve the true lord!
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Gnjus on November 29, 2011, 04:42:34 pm
Now prepare to recieve the true lord!

Dear God, i miss Growl so much......  :cry:
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Casimir on November 29, 2011, 04:45:23 pm
*incoherent finnish propoganda*

Happy?
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Gingerpussy on November 29, 2011, 04:47:57 pm
if it is any help to you Ginger, you know i told you my plans, you know i gave my word to those i told you about who are now officially my alliance partners and you know i asked you to be part of it and you know that i stay on track when i made up my mind. So when Nocti, Godlike, Ujin and others asked me over and over again to backstab those i gave my word to or so say it more formal, leave them behind. That just made me angry. Was it a badass move from me, sure, did i betray you? wft man i gave you every chance to be part of it, but like nocti you were like, meh we are here in our terretory we stay here, who wants to fight us should come and fight us and i was ok with that, when you(mercs) then began pressuring me to change my plans, that actually is something i don't want to see from a friend, i can understand it from a tactical point but come on mate as Gnjius said this is a game and i made my moves and played the players. So forgive me for trying to win and get my plans to work or don't that is not up to me mate.

No comment, dont even try and justify your actions. U where doomed down there and u flipped side. And joining the stronger side for survival is a cowards choice.

Il stay my course live or die, and my word is my reputation. U lost but you don't realize it kinn. Becouse you lost your reputation now...forever in this game.


Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Lorenzo_of_Iberia on November 29, 2011, 04:56:52 pm
Did someone say win in relation to strategus :P You can't 'win' strategus and even as you get closer to that goal more people will want to bring you down to the point where you can never win strategus  ;)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Blondin on November 29, 2011, 04:59:06 pm
I guess we can say that DRZ won the first strat, no?
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: DaveUKR on November 29, 2011, 05:02:20 pm
I guess we can say that DRZ won the first strat, no?

No, Mercs had the biggest amount of fiefs (25).
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 29, 2011, 05:03:32 pm
I guess we can say that DRZ won the first strat, no?

i thought Pub Crawl did???  they had fun and got to be drunk and didnt have to massively glitch with multiple accounts, supply chaining across entire map in an hour, going to unreachable spots in battles, etc. etc.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Lepintoi on November 29, 2011, 05:09:57 pm
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Blondin on November 29, 2011, 05:11:32 pm
Dave, may be UIF? (all together more fief than Mercs?).

Kesh, it was not exploit, they were making their job of beta tester.

So we can say that they won the bugs report contest?

(Tbh, everybody was exploiting)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 05:16:23 pm
i thought Pub Crawl did???  they had fun and got to be drunk and didnt have to massively glitch with multiple accounts, supply chaining across entire map in an hour, going to unreachable spots in battles, etc. etc.
you are the most abuser clan in crpg and you are trying to say others about abusing shamelessly 2 months
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: neupreis on November 29, 2011, 05:18:58 pm
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames
Awesome!
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 29, 2011, 05:20:57 pm
you are the most abuser clan in crpg and you are trying to say others about abusing shamelessly 2 months

Didnt a lot of your clan get temp banned for multi-accounting from single IP???  Yeah, we have never done that, which si probably the worst exploit as it is outside the game mechanics itself.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 05:26:52 pm
Didnt a lot of your clan get temp banned for multi-accounting from single IP???  Yeah, we have never done that, which si probably the worst exploit as it is outside the game mechanics itself.
a lot of my clan ? Are drug user ?
Take this 62 iq to out he doesnt know what he talk.We never get temp banned for anything none of bashi get temp banned till start of bashi go away and tell your lies to another clan cos talking to you is just a time waste
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Niemand on November 29, 2011, 05:28:49 pm
To add to this we are sticking to our original aim, removal of herecy from the steppe and any lands that harbor heretics.
Yes! Let us make the green Sun shine forever! For everyone!

Solbless!


No, Mercs had the biggest amount of fiefs (25).
No. CoCo won the first strat. you lownoobs.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Gnjus on November 29, 2011, 05:30:59 pm
a lot of my clan ? Are drug user ?
Take this 62 iq to out he doesnt know what he talk.We never get temp banned for anything none of bashi get temp banned till start of bashi go away and tell your lies to another clan cos talking to you is just a time waste

Calm down Turk, he thinks you're a Pole.

Don't blame him, it's not his fault that he comes from a...
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Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Kato on November 29, 2011, 05:42:06 pm
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames

LOL, genius
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 06:07:54 pm
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames

Perfect :) So much fun, thx Lepintoi
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Zaharist on November 29, 2011, 06:46:22 pm
No, Mercs had the biggest amount of fiefs (25).
Joke?  :D

I love this thread and drama, but I still don't see any epic battles upcoming. Why?
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 07:03:42 pm
Mercs didn't fight in 1st strat they didn't win anything or lose anything, they purchased fiefs and took over fiefs of our enemies, which was given to them by owners so those fiefs wouldn't end up in our hands.

You can't win strategus as a clan, you can only win or lose some wars, thats all. And you can't really win if u don't participate in any.
However in strat 2 mercs won war against FCC, its just FCC used their tricks as usual to make sure they don't get wiped, like secure peace using 8k army of Chaos that didn't get anything at the end for helping.
I have to admit it was a good war they had there and mercs was clearly wining it.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jarlek on November 29, 2011, 07:08:17 pm
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames
xD
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 29, 2011, 07:09:11 pm
Mercs didn't fight in 1st strat they didn't win anything or lose anything, they purchased fiefs and took over fiefs of our enemies, which was given to them by owners so those fiefs wouldn't end up in our hands.

You can't win strategus as a clan, you can only win or lose some wars, thats all. And you can't really win if u don't participate in any.
However in strat 2 mercs won war against FCC, its just FCC used their tricks as usual to make sure they don't get wiped, like secure peace using 8k army of Chaos that didn't get anything at the end for helping.
I have to admit it was a good war they had there and mercs was clearly wining it.

I see what you did there.  Trying to get Mercs angry at us and not UIF 3.0.  Frankly mercs gave us a real fight.  DRZ, ended up kind of a disappointment, you had half-dozen NA clans and your huge clan including BIA and other sub-clans, and you tried to blitzkrieg us after we lost 10K troops taking a castle and you lost troops by the kilo and eventually your allies lost most of their fiefs and your fiefs would have been lost too, but you glitched the nighttime feature, and the 1/3rd attack and retreat option on every army we sent. 

Didnt put up very good fights, remember you guys being more fearsome when you all had supersonic bows in strat 1.0, I guess things changed to much froma  first person shooter game.

Still think mercs have some of the best fighters in EU.  USed to think in Strat 1.0 that DRZ did too, but found out archer-crutching as a clan just masked things.  Would take a Merc mercenary over a DRZ mercenary any day hiring for a battle.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Dehitay on November 29, 2011, 07:10:11 pm
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames
Oh god, that had me laughing so hard, it hurts. I think my favorite part was
"Don't worry. He says this every round"
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: PhantomZero on November 29, 2011, 07:14:01 pm
Mercs didn't fight in 1st strat they didn't win anything or lose anything, they purchased fiefs and took over fiefs of our enemies, which was given to them by owners so those fiefs wouldn't end up in our hands.

You can't win strategus as a clan, you can only win or lose some wars, thats all. And you can't really win if u don't participate in any.
However in strat 2 mercs won war against FCC, its just FCC used their tricks as usual to make sure they don't get wiped, like secure peace using 8k army of Chaos that didn't get anything at the end for helping.
I have to admit it was a good war they had there and mercs was clearly wining it.

I think the FCC were the winners there. Despite being outnumbered and out supplied they were able to negotiate a peace which left them on favorable terms to go and start a war against the northern empire, which gained them the land they needed to rebuild.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: HarunYahya on November 29, 2011, 07:21:02 pm
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames
Epic =D
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Cicero on November 29, 2011, 07:21:41 pm
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames
really good we laughed so hard =)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: dado on November 29, 2011, 07:25:03 pm
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 
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Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: bagge on November 29, 2011, 07:39:28 pm
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames
:mrgreen:
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Erasmas on November 29, 2011, 07:47:18 pm
I see what you did there.  Trying to get Mercs angry at us and not UIF 3.0.

That is called paranoia.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Oberyn on November 29, 2011, 08:13:14 pm
I think the FCC were the winners there. Despite being outnumbered and out supplied they were able to negotiate a peace which left them on favorable terms to go and start a war against the northern empire, which gained them the land they needed to rebuild.

eh, yes, clearly getting exiled and paid off to give up the claims you fought for means you won. They did crush the ATS paper tiger out of the deal, so in a sense you're right, it paid off for them in the end.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 08:24:31 pm
I see what you did there.  Trying to get Mercs angry at us and not UIF 3.0.  Frankly mercs gave us a real fight.  DRZ, ended up kind of a disappointment, you had half-dozen NA clans and your huge clan including BIA and other sub-clans, and you tried to blitzkrieg us after we lost 10K troops taking a castle and you lost troops by the kilo and eventually your allies lost most of their fiefs and your fiefs would have been lost too, but you glitched the nighttime feature, and the 1/3rd attack and retreat option on every army we sent. 

Didnt put up very good fights, remember you guys being more fearsome when you all had supersonic bows in strat 1.0, I guess things changed to much froma  first person shooter game.
haha what a stupid thought you've got there in ur head :0

You probably the only one who suffered archer nerf patch. You don't seam to do very well without all those extra wpf points after 90 retirements u've had.

anyway less talking - more rading  :twisted:
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 29, 2011, 08:32:17 pm
haha what a stupid thought you've got there in ur head :0

You probably the only one who suffered archer nerf patch. You don't seam to do very well without all those extra wpf points after 90 retirements u've had.

anyway less talking - more rading  :twisted:

Nebun you had 250+ wpf, 2nd or 3rd highest after me lol.

less talking more raiding - thanks for finally admitting what we have known all along the UIF is still essentially in force and you have been helping out the desert alliance (not just mercing like crazy for them), mercing for 22nd and Grey order.  I have yet to see DRZ not rely on being part of the biggest alliance in Strat, which essentially encompasses almost all the eastern europeans and a few other clans.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 09:00:30 pm
Nebun you had 250+ wpf, 2nd or 3rd highest after me lol.

less talking more raiding - thanks for finally admitting what we have known all along the UIF is still essentially in force and you have been helping out the desert alliance (not just mercing like crazy for them), mercing for 22nd and Grey order.  I have yet to see DRZ not rely on being part of the biggest alliance in Strat, which essentially encompasses almost all the eastern europeans and a few other clans.

I didn't have any retirements Kesh, 240 wpf
I wasn't second one after u, a lot of archers had this too. Thats what u can have without any retirements. But you have to drop on atletics.

as for the rading, I was talking only for Druzhina :) we sign up agast some clans because we need entertainment and we don't like them!!!
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Dehitay on November 29, 2011, 09:03:24 pm
I didn't have any retirements Kesh, 240 wpf
I wasn't second one after u, a lot of archers had this too. Thats what u can have without any retirements. But you have to drop on atletics.

as for the rading, I was talking only for Druzhina :) we sign up agast some clans because we need entertainment and we don't like them!!!
Just attack Grey Order. That will shut Kesh up and all the people who keep whining about the carebear alliances and how all of EU is allied in a conspiracy. Also, it would finally provide the EU side with some entertainment.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Nebun on November 29, 2011, 09:10:24 pm
Dehitay, why would i go and attack grey order, if there is you for example and annoying FCC.
So you make plans to group up and attack us, and now u want us to go and fight someone else? Why? Just to shut u up? :)) No, keep trolling, like anybody cares what u write in here.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Erasmas on November 29, 2011, 09:17:00 pm
Kesh, and what about Vayajeg, do you need that one too?
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Chasey on November 29, 2011, 09:18:12 pm
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames
amazing lol 5/5
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Dehitay on November 29, 2011, 09:25:57 pm
Dehitay, why would i go and attack grey order, if there is you for example and annoying FCC.
So you make plans to group up and attack us, and now u want us to go and fight someone else? Why? Just to shut u up? :)) No, keep trolling, like anybody cares what u write in here.
They point was to shut Kesh up, not me. After all, like anybody cares what I write in here. Also, I can understand your concern at splitting your forces since attacking Grey with Fallen as a potential threat wouldn't be that strategic. So in the spirit of fairness, if you attack Grey Order, I'll give you LLJK as an ally. Don't worry; they're totally my bishes.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 29, 2011, 09:28:40 pm
Dehitay, why would i go and attack grey order, if there is you for example and annoying FCC.
So you make plans to group up and attack us, and now u want us to go and fight someone else? Why? Just to shut u up? :)) No, keep trolling, like anybody cares what u write in here.

Actually I believe the troll award goes to you.  Congratulations.

P.S. They will never attack Grey Order or anyone else for that matter where they don't have overhwleming numbers/allies in their favor, its just the way they play.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: naduril on November 29, 2011, 10:37:05 pm
Actually I believe the troll award goes to you.  Congratulations.

P.S. They will never attack Grey Order or anyone else for that matter where they don't have overhwleming numbers/allies in their favor, its just the way they play.
Blah blah blah, mr. freeman ©

Nope, Kesh, that award is yours, for many months already and for a long time in future. Live with it.

And really do you think anyone still take your word seriously?
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Zaharist on November 29, 2011, 10:41:48 pm
She doesn't know strat's history, that's why she is talking bullshit. happens %)
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: naduril on November 29, 2011, 10:58:32 pm
She doesn't know strat's history, that's why she is talking bullshit. happens %)
Nevertheless i still don't think thats it is she. It must be he, and very persistent flooder, posting in every thread some gibberish.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Gnjus on November 29, 2011, 11:05:20 pm
Nevertheless i still don't think thats it is she. It must be he, and very persistent flooder, posting in every thread some gibberish.

It's already uncovered:

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Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Thovex on November 29, 2011, 11:38:52 pm
Actually I believe the troll award goes to you.  Congratulations.

P.S. They will never attack Grey Order or anyone else for that matter where they don't have overhwleming numbers/allies in their favor, its just the way they play.

 :lol: :lol: I come back after 3 months of inactivity and Kesh is still whining about blatant crap. May the lord bless you for ever ma'am.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: BattalGazi on November 29, 2011, 11:45:45 pm
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames

I gave full credit !! Awesome job man, I really laughed hard.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Gurnisson on November 30, 2011, 12:02:27 am
That was an epic video
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jambi on November 30, 2011, 12:25:12 am
No comment, dont even try and justify your actions. U where doomed down there and u flipped side. And joining the stronger side for survival is a cowards choice.

Il stay my course live or die, and my word is my reputation. U lost but you don't realize it kinn. Becouse you lost your reputation now...forever in this game.

Too be honest Ginger.. your a great person and all.

But the way you guys play strategus, is the reason why I left Mercs.

Your policy of diplomacy is just lies based on threats based on lies, and always looking down on anything that isnt Mercs. And even looking down on your own members, ridiculing them.. if they present any more honourable plan.

So many clans have already turned there back to you, and old allies leaving you now.

But still you stay on the same course.. its being plain stubborn.

Dont take this is an insult man, but as an old friends advice.

btw

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmnbp9_der-untergang_videogames

lmao 10/10
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 30, 2011, 12:29:52 am
And from now on this thread will become an inner merc drama thread.... damn you Jambi!!!
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jambi on November 30, 2011, 12:31:43 am
And from now on this thread will become an inner merc drama thread.... damn you Jambi!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

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Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Gristle on November 30, 2011, 01:32:08 am
You guys can call Kesh's words bullshit all you like, but at least one thing is true. The Mercs put up a much better fight against us than DRZ & friends, both in game and on the forum. Nobody could flood a thread better than Mercs during that war. It was truly impressive.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Keshian on November 30, 2011, 01:41:56 am
I was impressed.


Also, fucking awesome video.
Title: Re: Declaration of allegiance: Desert Alliance
Post by: Jambi on November 30, 2011, 01:43:11 am
The Mercs put up a much better fight against us than DRZ & friends, both in game and on the forum. Nobody could flood a thread better than Mercs during that war. It was truly impressive.

because i was in Mercs back then:D