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Sad archer face.
Horse archers are annoying, but they have to give up literally all other useful skills to be effective.(click to show/hide)
Horse archers are probably going to use 2-3 bodkin stacks, which means in they are going to be paying boatloads of gold for repair of those (~350 gold, very high break chance) not to mention their expensive horse. Playing a HA is probably very difficult to maintain gold-wise, so I say leave them with their bodkins, since without them they will just tickle all but the lightest of armored players.
So you mean that before the arrow change damage, they didn't deal any significant damage to all but the lightest of armored players ? Whereas now, they can, providing rich enough, take away a third of your life in one shot, when they have two other dozens arrows remaining ? And that seem "normal", or "evolution", or "balance" to you ?
Price isn't the only thing that ought to balance a class, people should stick that in their head.
+1 for the bodkin arrows only usable on foot. At least, 15/24 FOOT archers, will maybe thus have this advantage vs 15/24 HA.
PS: Next thing we'll hear for MR Shine is a petition to enable flamburger on horseback, because it's hella expensive and 2hcav already pay for their horse, so it's a money sink, so it should be allowed. Lmao.
I don't even know why people are crying about HA anyway, they are one of the least used builds and are very balanced, they have been nerfed enough, bodkins for a PD5 + horn bow aren't that great and as me and Overdriven have already said, their damage is only really noticeable vs heavy armoured guys, I have still shot some people 4 times in the torso with bodkins to kill them whilst they only had medium armour or weaker.
People only take more notice of HA on the field because they find them "annoying" and I would put money on a decent portion of those players are randomers who run around the field alone, getting circled by a lone HA who shoots them to death, they only cry about it because they couldn't fight back then whine about HA, but it is their own fault it happened to them in the first place.
I lost count of how many times on my HA I would see one shieldless guy a mile away from his army trying to 'flank', then I would circle him and shoot him to death, only for him to cry after I died or new round started "Fucking HA coward" :lol:.
But yeah, if you want to take away HA only weapon against heavy armour then let's remove pierce and blunt damage from everything else, doesn't bother me seeing as my main uses a sword anyway. :lol:
Better solution would be to make bodkins 8 cut :twisted:
Current pros of horse archery:-Range? ahem, have you seen the accuracy on horse back? mhh i woulnt consider it "accurate" in medium and long range.
+ ranged attack
+ difficult to catch
+ ability to move and fire
Totally agree. HA's are already rare anyway. Also, when was the last time that any of you saw an HA who was a game changer?
I frankly don't understand all the people whining about this. HA's are terribly easy to avoid and they generally do LESS damage than foot archers. If you're a lone asshole without a shield running after an HA and not hiding behind cover you deserve to be shot. How about you guys use your brain for once instead of trying to nerf everything into oblivion.
So... i don't see how HA are so easy to avoid ? Bumpshot ? Closeheadshot ? Midbodyshot ? Who cares if he miss you 5 times, for every arrow that hits, it's enough.
Secondly, i'm a footarcher with 15/24 and do the EXACT amount of damage tha HA does, maybe less because i NEED a medium armor to survive his horse bump, so less effective wpf. (yeah, i'm rare, i didn't go easy mode rusbow 7 PD...)
Seriously, HA were fine before, and didn't need that pierce damage, they were perfect for hunting down HORSES, archers, and lightarmored foes with no shield. Now, they're perfect to hunt down, horses, archers, all sort of armored foes except shielders. But what ? A buff ? NOOOOO that is IMPOSSIBLE ! USE YOUR BRAIN !
So... i don't see how HA are so easy to avoid ? Bumpshot ? Closeheadshot ? Midbodyshot ? Who cares if he miss you 5 times, for every arrow that hits, it's enough.
Secondly, i'm a footarcher with 15/24 and do the EXACT amount of damage tha HA does, maybe less because i NEED a medium armor to survive his horse bump, so less effective wpf. (yeah, i'm rare, i didn't go easy mode rusbow 7 PD...)
Seriously, HA were fine before, and didn't need that pierce damage, they were perfect for hunting down HORSES, archers, and lightarmored foes with no shield. Now, they're perfect to hunt down, horses, archers, all sort of armored foes except shielders. But what ? A buff ? NOOOOO that is IMPOSSIBLE ! USE YOUR BRAIN !
because its totaly retarded and unballanced that is all , i dont think i need to go eny deeper into the details of how retadedley retarded it is
Guys do we really need to discuss how "easy" it is to avoid horse and horsearchers, especially when it's about 2 or 3 horses coming from different sides? :rolleyes:
With 30 bodkin arrows against 1 inf. i might hit him 3 times as a HA, but that is if the tries to dodge them ofc.
Guys do we really need to discuss how "easy" it is to avoid horse and horsearchers, especially when it's about 2 or 3 horses coming from different sides? :rolleyes:
Well then you have to admit that you totally suck at horsearchery and that you should choose another class :lol:
Most horsearchers can do that with alot less arrows. Especially those bumpshot retards
From my point of view (as a dedicated melee fighter) they are digusting but I guess they are neccesary for diversity blah blah blah...lol
Better solution would be to make bodkins 8 cut :twisted:
I guess I'll alt-tab out and check email."
That never happens. It's always, "Oh good [in a sarcastic tone], our x5 is doomed because this horse archer is completely worthless. What's worse, it's going to take him 3 minutes to finally die.Y u mad about 3 min x5?
That never happens. It's always, "Oh good [in a sarcastic tone], our x5 is doomed because this horse archer is completely worthless. What's worse, it's going to take him 3 minutes to finally die. I guess I'll alt-tab out and check email."
I say leave them with their bodkins, since without them they will just tickle all but the lightest of armored players.
The one thing that annoys me about that situation is the calling for the HA to get off his horse. I've now stopped doing that. 90% of the time one of the other players will steal the horse and get on it and then kill me, or I will get off the horse to pick up a weapon and they kill me while I'm doing that.
If you want me to fight on the ground, let me get a weapon first. And also don't take my horse :|
So now I just ignore those calls to get off a horse if I'm the last left. As far as I'm concerned, everyone can sit there bored whilst I ride around because most people act like douche's when it comes down to it.
Besides, there are some occasions where I've been the last left and killed off 5 of the remaining enemy team and won. They don't happen often, but it does happen.
So... i don't see how HA are so easy to avoid ? Bumpshot ? Closeheadshot ? Midbodyshot ? Who cares if he miss you 5 times, for every arrow that hits, it's enough.
Secondly, i'm a footarcher with 15/24 and do the EXACT amount of damage tha HA does, maybe less because i NEED a medium armor to survive his horse bump, so less effective wpf. (yeah, i'm rare, i didn't go easy mode rusbow 7 PD...)
Seriously, HA were fine before, and didn't need that pierce damage, they were perfect for hunting down HORSES, archers, and lightarmored foes with no shield. Now, they're perfect to hunt down, horses, archers, all sort of armored foes except shielders. But what ? A buff ? NOOOOO that is IMPOSSIBLE ! USE YOUR BRAIN !
HA's are rubbish now anyway, they dont need further nerfing.
all ranged needs to be nerfed more, to the ground, to the ground