i beg you make bodkins unusable on horseback

[karasu]

Want a solution?

Make 2 slotted bows Pierce damage (as it was with Longbow p.e.) and 1 slot bows cut damage.

1 shot, 2 kills.

[Slamz]

If anything, I'm tempted to say horse archery is weak.  How many times has it come down to your team having, say, 2 left and the enemy having 3 and one of your guys is a horse archer and you're glad to see it?  "Oh good, our x5 is intact because this horse archer is going to win it for us"?

That never happens.  It's always, "Oh good [in a sarcastic tone], our x5 is doomed because this horse archer is completely worthless.  What's worse, it's going to take him 3 minutes to finally die.  I guess I'll alt-tab out and check email."


Not that I really want to see them buffed.  HA's strength is their ability to generally avoid getting killed, which might be real handy in strategus now with commanders, but "Nerf Horse Archers! They are too powerful!" is a call I can't really get behind.

Usually what happens is the horse archer loses his horse to a regular archer, and then he's just a regular archer with a lot of wasted points.

[IR_Kuoin]

 I guess I'll alt-tab out and check email."

Ehm... Don't use alt + tab use alt + enter....

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[SchokoSchaf]

That never happens.  It's always, "Oh good [in a sarcastic tone], our x5 is doomed because this horse archer is completely worthless.  What's worse, it's going to take him 3 minutes to finally die. 

Y u mad about 3 min x5?

[Overdriven]

That never happens.  It's always, "Oh good [in a sarcastic tone], our x5 is doomed because this horse archer is completely worthless.  What's worse, it's going to take him 3 minutes to finally die.  I guess I'll alt-tab out and check email."

The one thing that annoys me about that situation is the calling for the HA to get off his horse. I've now stopped doing that. 90% of the time one of the other players will steal the horse and get on it and then kill me, or I will get off the horse to pick up a weapon and they kill me while I'm doing that.

If you want me to fight on the ground, let me get a weapon first. And also don't take my horse 

So now I just ignore those calls to get off a horse if I'm the last left. As far as I'm concerned, everyone can sit there bored whilst I ride around because most people act like douche's when it comes down to it.

Besides, there are some occasions where I've been the last left and killed off 5 of the remaining enemy team and won. They don't happen often, but it does happen.

[Remy]

I say leave them with their bodkins, since without them they will just tickle all but the lightest of armored players.

Indeed, even with bodkins it is a better idea to just try for headshots(as HA).

Anyone with decent armor is usually a waste of time.

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HA in summary:
+Mobile(good against cav or for hit and run tactics)
+Can dictate when to fight or run(most of the time)

-Less accurate compared to firing on foot
-A rather limited skill/attribute spread out due to requirements(HA of 4)
-Low Damage compared to other troops
-Repairs
-Squishy

Essentially a hit and run specialist and compared to standard cavalry by no means a damage dealer.

[IR_Kuoin]

The one thing that annoys me about that situation is the calling for the HA to get off his horse. I've now stopped doing that. 90% of the time one of the other players will steal the horse and get on it and then kill me, or I will get off the horse to pick up a weapon and they kill me while I'm doing that.

If you want me to fight on the ground, let me get a weapon first. And also don't take my horse 

So now I just ignore those calls to get off a horse if I'm the last left. As far as I'm concerned, everyone can sit there bored whilst I ride around because most people act like douche's when it comes down to it.

Besides, there are some occasions where I've been the last left and killed off 5 of the remaining enemy team and won. They don't happen often, but it does happen.

+10 

[Rumblood]

So... i don't see how HA are so easy to avoid ? Bumpshot ? Closeheadshot ? Midbodyshot ? Who cares if he miss you 5 times, for every arrow that hits, it's enough.

Secondly, i'm a footarcher with 15/24 and do the EXACT amount of damage tha HA does, maybe less because i NEED a medium armor to survive his horse bump, so less effective wpf. (yeah, i'm rare, i didn't go easy mode rusbow 7 PD...)


Seriously, HA were fine before, and didn't need that pierce damage, they were perfect for hunting down HORSES, archers, and lightarmored foes with no shield. Now, they're perfect to hunt down, horses, archers, all sort of armored foes except shielders. But what ? A buff ? NOOOOO that is IMPOSSIBLE ! USE YOUR BRAIN !

Wait, you are a foot archer complaining? I've got 15/26 5 PD Horn bow. How are you being bumped? Try shooting them? HA might venture within 50 yards once, after that they run like hell to get away from me. L2Aim?

[Henry_Broodsonson]

Yes, The requirement for HA should be lowered, to the same as riding. HA 5 should be unlockable.

[Rogue_Eagle]

HA's are rubbish now anyway, they dont need further nerfing.

[rufio]

HA's are rubbish now anyway, they dont need further nerfing.

all ranged needs to be nerfed more, to the ground, to the ground

[Tears of Destiny]

all ranged needs to be nerfed more, to the ground, to the ground

To the ground is an overnerf. Overnerfs are bad.

[IR_Kuoin]

With my magical powers I herby resurrect this post!