I have 3 cd keys, one for me, 1 for Kasper, and 1 for R_kelly. kasper is my 19 yr old brother who lives with me and uses strat just like me, for DL. R_kelly is my 17 yr old brother and he plays at his home, but only uses strat when he visits me and kasper at my house.
is this a problem?
Sounds fishy.
This shit got abused terribly last strategus and it's getting abused this strategus. You don't have to even try to look for it, it's in your face. BIA_Ivan, BIA_ivani4_the_dark. at least try to be discreet about it. I doubt anything will be inforce, carry on.
This shit got abused terribly last strategus and it's getting abused this strategus. You don't have to even try to look for it, it's in your face. BIA_Ivan, BIA_ivani4_the_dark. at least try to be discreet about it. I doubt anything will be inforce, carry on.
Why spend time dealing with multykeyusers? better make it useless. That is to remove farm gold and tikkets in Fiefs by just seating.It's really hard to win the soccer world cup , so let's bring 42 players instead of 21 like the other team. Get the logic ? =)
And about account sharing, supply line is most cool thing in strat, and sad that 90% of cases it fails due to lack of players online, rather than enemy action
I don't have more than one key. My friend has one and he rarely plays so he gave me his login on Strat. I don't see a problem?!? :rolleyes:
BANNED.
So will brothers in the same house, who are also in the same clan, be unable to both play strategus?
You need special permission, the Fallen have a couple people who do that, we just had to provide "proof."
Which is retarded and rather facist.
Frankly, I find it incredibly curious that the Chinese still want us to believe that there are a billion of them. I mean honestly. 100 000 000 people with the surname Li? They could atleast try to make it seem more believable.
I mean, come on.
I am starting to despise some aspects of the 21st century mentalities..
So let me get this straight, if we allow unchecked multi-accounting then people whine on the forums that it is unfair (and have done so in the past) but if we force checks to make sure that any multi-accounting is for a good reason and not for abuse... then it is fascist?
How in the nine hells would you then check?! Damned if they do, damned if they don't...
As for "how do they check" that will never be answered if they have any sense in them (no reason to tell the public of a detection method otherwise it is easier to find it and avoid it).
You can blame all the morons who abuse shit that we have to do such things.
We can't have nice things because a few 'tards out there can not be trusted. Blame those who created the system and the initial need for it, not the system managers.
Well I'm biased because personally I don't understand why I SHOULDN'T be allowed to use the RL money I've EARNED by working in order to pay for an advantage. Nolifers and kids get to spend all the time in the world to gain an advantage, but are usually fucking poor. Why shouldn't those of us that don't have that time get to spend money to get back to even ground? How fucking dare gamers work and have lives outside of games.
Well I'm biased because personally I don't understand why I SHOULDN'T be allowed to use the RL money I've EARNED by working in order to pay for an advantage. Nolifers and kids get to spend all the time in the world to gain an advantage, but are usually fucking poor. Why shouldn't those of us that don't have that time get to spend money to get back to even ground? How fucking dare gamers work and have lives outside of games.
Well I'm biased because personally I don't understand why I SHOULDN'T be allowed to use the RL money I've EARNED by working in order to pay for an advantage. Nolifers and kids get to spend all the time in the world to gain an advantage, but are usually fucking poor. Why shouldn't those of us that don't have that time get to spend money to get back to even ground? How fucking dare gamers work and have lives outside of games.YOU ARE A BITCH OF BABYLON! THROW AWAY YOUR MONEY! (in my direction please, kind Sir, I am a nolifer... but workin hard to get a life... but luck is not on my side... :( )
Well I'm biased because personally I don't understand why I SHOULDN'T be allowed to use the RL money I've EARNED by working in order to pay for an advantage. Nolifers and kids get to spend all the time in the world to gain an advantage, but are usually fucking poor. Why shouldn't those of us that don't have that time get to spend money to get back to even ground? How fucking dare gamers work and have lives outside of games.
I think RL people actually have the advantage, and the "no_lifers" only have the games... so who fucking cares.
So, tldr version is, punish the players then who make very little money and have very little free time, so now not only are they screwed from lack of grinding/practice time, but also would be screwed from lack of cash because they spent it all on food and rent? They would then make a near identical rant like yours, calling for a free game.
lol, someone is poor and mad.
So what exactly is your problem?
buy a bitchin gaming rig.Already have. :P
Right now it's that you have clearly lost your ability to understand sarcasm and are taking the forums far too seriously lately. Get mad at the internet less like you used to man. ffs, you used to be fun and cool. Now you're just a burnt out bummer.
*I want our old ToD back.Fuck the old ToD I hope he dies in a fire for being such a tool.
At this rate soon you'll end up full-on-mean-venomous-fuckhat like Zealot, Corrado, myself and a few others.*
Fuck the old ToD I hope he dies in a fire for being such a tool.I guess it's too late then. Welcome to the club.
So....
TLDR; You've come to the point where you hate yourselfthe community too?
WTF happened to you.This:
On a side note, the ToD that normally uses voice chat and plays with you guys has been hit by a... An accident has happened to him... So one of the ToD who normally just helps with the forum posts will be the one playing and chatting on Team speak, so beware the new voice.
Most gaming forums have idiots being idiots to other players, that is normal, but I have never seen a community like this one where so many people bitch and whine about the very fucking game that they play every week.
I remember i once played an online game, cant remember how it was called.Was this game hosted in Nigeria?
But there was also a rule about multi accounting/dual boxing etc.
The only way in order to make it legit, was by sending in a copy of every persons ID card or social security number too the dev team.
Was this game hosted in Nigeria?
....Easily abusable.
1. RANK 10 is allowed once a day to give
1.a) movement commands to members who haven't logged in for say 3+ days
.....
Easily abusable.not abusable, if only one can hold rank 10 and don't forget about point 2., which suggest limited action points
Make all your active members rank 10 = secure way to do multiaccounting ;)
I think the problem here is : Community wants multiaccounting to be legal somehow either by acocuntsharing or clan officers right to control regulars.Devs don't want it to prevent a clan of 10 controls 200 members on strategus.Community wants it? really? which part, those with shitload of money in their pockets to by a hundred cd keys?
If you don't let officers or rank 10s or dedicated no lifer clan members whatever you want to call them , to access and control regular clanmates strategus actions , it is a shitty situation because no one wants to pump only troops,golds to villages.If you don't prevent it somehow people will abooze.therefor we need regulating mechanics, which i suggested which werent yet commented from you
There should be a solution maybe like each officer (Rank 10 no lifer clan member) can only control 1 clan member's movements.It will be fair for everyone i think.From how you say it it seems more open to abuse then my suggestions, but please clarify, if there is no rank 10 restriction, how would you restrict the movements(movements or actions?) which could be done by any clan mate with rank 10, in a 50+ member clan like the Wolves i could have 20 guys with rank 10... so in terms of numbers 40 characters on the map would be set to use.
Clanmembers are not cows that you can produce milk everyday.It is really boring to send troops+gold which auto regenerates itself by time.
Community wants it? really? which part, those with shitload of money in their pockets to by a hundred cd keys?
not abusable, if only one can hold rank 10 and don't forget about point 2., which suggest limited action points-I didn't see that you suggested only 1 rank 10 will be accepted that's why i thought it's abusable.
Community wants it? really? which part, those with shitload of money in their pockets to by a hundred cd keys?
Or those huge clans/alliances with 100+ players.
Devs don't want to prevent it? never heard about that, but if some dev wants here to state that openly that it will never happen because they love to have someone with 200 in one faction or alliance, steam rolling the game ... i am all ears
therefor we need regulating mechanics, which i suggested which werent yet commented from you
From how you say it it seems more open to abuse then my suggestions, but please clarify, if there is no rank 10 restriction, how would you restrict the movements(movements or actions?) which could be done by any clan mate with rank 10, in a 50+ member clan like the Wolves i could have 20 guys with rank 10... so in terms of numbers 40 characters on the map would be set to use.
With action points, moving a character is an action, entering a fief is an action, starting to work or recruit is an action, leaving a fief is an action
and combining that with a restricted overall usage of action points to 3-4 for ALL Rank 10 users for one day, you would have some flexibility and a lot less need to share accounts as you just can make some urgent changes or if you believe nothing cruciul is happening today some simple logistic stuff.
Problem is that strat only has stuff to do for the clan leader(s). For the rest of us members it's just an annoyingly slow picture that the leaders keep harping on us about:This is i agree on and this is why we need a solution .
Have you transferred "x" yet? have you? could you? will you? fucking do it!
Have you moved to "y" and started doing "z"? fucking do it!
Hey guys can you transfer your "x" to my "y"? do it NOW!
Fuck you, we're trying to play a game not just look at some spreadsheet that gives you shit all day.
Questions to the equus africanus asinus-Team:
What if a mate comes over with his pc for a few days and plays warband/strat from here... It would be the same IP but different pcs/cookies. Would that bring me in danger? would I have to report that every time? :(
Problem is that strat only has stuff to do for the clan leader(s). For the rest of us members it's just an annoyingly slow picture that the leaders keep harping on us about:
Have you transferred "x" yet? have you? could you? will you? fucking do it!
Have you moved to "y" and started doing "z"? fucking do it!
Hey guys can you transfer your "x" to my "y"? do it NOW!
Fuck you, we're trying to play a game not just look at some spreadsheet that gives you shit all day.
dont make rules you wont enforce IMO.
lets see some enforcing.
...Exactly, there are many ways how to give to the players more fun and flexibility of gameplay (=enjoy).
This character NOT interacts with any (except see bellow) entities of Strategus like:
traveling over the mapvisiting fiefsgathering troops\goldsbuying\selling equipmentattacking and is attackedgathering intelligence infotransferring goods from one to other characters\fiefs\locations(in future) defending caravans- (
in future) crafting equipment- applying to the battles (only)
- nothing more !
you shouldn't be doing ANYTHING with strategus with a second key, which includes helping out strategus factionsI playing game. Working I am in the other place. Here I am playing.
Well I'm biased because personally I don't understand why I SHOULDN'T be allowed to use the RL money I've EARNED by working in order to pay for an advantage. Nolifers and kids get to spend all the time in the world to gain an advantage, but are usually fucking poor. Why shouldn't those of us that don't have that time get to spend money to get back to even ground? How fucking dare gamers work and have lives outside of games.lol just play the game
My suggestion to an alternative would be to watch for those accounts that obviously don't have any cRPG activity and are being used as farming accounts.
...this
Most of the guys involved in leading Strat clans sacrifice cRPG time for Strat time...
What about people logging in at home and at work? :wink:
(sorry if already posted, didn't read the 6 pages)
I don't see any rules violation in my case.
Yes, that's right. A single person is not allowed to use multiple CD keys. That has also been announced.
A single person can not have several cd keys.
A single person cannot have the login data of other players to play strat for them.
Multiple persons in one household can have multiple cd keys, as long as they are kept seperate. Be assured that there are ways to figure out if one account is played by different people or one person.
Trying to cheat with those things will result in the ban of at least one and probably both keys. Depends if it was a honest mistake or deliberately trying to bypass the system.
Are you kidding me?I did your job for you. You don't even need to read a logs.
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Also to all those guys going "oh noes nothing is happening".
Please be aware that reducing the player base by whole clans seams like a bad idea.
Gladly there is something called logs and we got em.
you dont have to ban the entire clans that are abusing this mechanic... though it is very disturbing that you are indicating that there are ENTIRE clans which abuse this... but throw out some bans to the biggest abusers and if they decide they are ready to start playing legit like the rest of us, they can make unban requests, write essays, and rejoin the community. and if banning the worst offenders as an example doesnt scare off any of the others... then keep on banning until people get the message.Agreed. But take the REALLY obious abuser first. There could be more like 3ABP who just wants to be able to use another build or something, so instead start with the ones (who I really hope DOESN'T exist) guys with 3 or 4 or even more dudes on strat.
Account sharing and multiple cd-keys is a plauge in this strat, i really witnessed lots of situations where was ovious (like 20 people moving as one, or chars with similar names, or people that it's oviously not online and it's just moved by someone else).
I hope you devs will put an end on this soon, but i have doubts you'll manage to stop completely. People are using proxies or just connecting from another house (like 1 char at home 1 at office, or 1 char on pc 1 char on laptop).
I have a private network and when you banned my ip because i put wrong password too many times, i could connect from another pc in the same house without needs to do nothing.
That said, i agree with 3ABP, don't see why we can't play one strat battle with an archer, and the next with an xbowman. It's not that we will help our factions with extra troops or gold, we are just talking about battles.
I think you should allow all chars to do strat battles without any need of buying a second cd-key, or at least add a free respec (like every month or so you can do it without losing half xp).
There will be still a main, so the second chars will not be able to sign for IA fiefs (the only possible exploit i can think of)
If you think that's not an issue and we can just do the respec and loose half of the xp when we want to change classes: I'm level 32, i have 27,874,839 xp and it took almost all summer to go from level 31 to level 32 and half.
I'll never respec, i don't want to lose 15 milions xp just to play 1 strat battle with a different char, and have to do all the grind from 31 to 32 again.
Let us have fun with trying different classes every strat battles, as long as we don't flood strategus map with alts
20 people moving at one time suggests to you account sharing? :lol: That's just organisation. I know when GK moved South from Ada to Bardaq we had to go and individually speak to everyone. Took a lot of effort, but it made it look pretty awesome seeing our hoard shifting down all at once, to the point where Acre immediately sent their diplomat over to speak to us when we entered the desert :lol:I play this game as a clan leader since the first day of last strat, i think i'm able to guess where someone is using account sharing. Ofc i can't have proofs but still sometimes it's just ovious. And sometimes other clans, even enemies or neutrals, just said it openly to me, so :lol:.
+1A vacation mode would be nice.
you dont have to ban the entire clans that are abusing this mechanic... though it is very disturbing that you are indicating that there are ENTIRE clans which abuse this... but throw out some bans to the biggest abusers and if they decide they are ready to start playing legit like the rest of us, they can make unban requests, write essays, and rejoin the community. and if banning the worst offenders as an example doesnt scare off any of the others... then keep on banning until people get the message.
How can you know if someone is acc sharing? With let's say...your brother/family?