Strategus accountsharing/multiaccounting and it's consequences

[Tears of Destiny]

So will brothers in the same house, who are also in the same clan, be unable to both play strategus?

You need special permission, the Fallen have a couple people who do that, we just had to provide "proof."

[Gorath]

You need special permission, the Fallen have a couple people who do that, we just had to provide "proof."

Which is retarded and rather facist.

[Tears of Destiny]

Which is retarded and rather facist.

You can blame all the morons who abuse shit that we have to do such things.

We can't have nice things because a few 'tards out there can not be trusted. Blame those who created the system and the initial need for it, not the system managers.

[Cepeshi]

Hm, what to do if i am in need to obtain such allowance? My friend and his brother both play cRPG and strat from one location, sometimes from same PC even (they swap laptop and desktop)-

[Kafein]

Frankly, I find it incredibly curious that the Chinese still want us to believe that there are a billion of them. I mean honestly. 100 000 000 people with the surname Li? They could atleast try to make it seem more believable.

I mean, come on.

I nearly died of laughter for some reason.


Anyway, how are the devs going to tell wether a set of keys come from the same house or not ? Most people have dynamic IP. Furthermore, having to prove that there are two distinct people playing seems fascist, and having to prove that someone is effectively using two gamekeys alone just to farm strategus seems hard.

[Tears of Destiny]

I am starting to despise some aspects of the 21st century mentalities..

So let me get this straight, if we allow unchecked multi-accounting then people whine on the forums that it is unfair (and have done so in the past) but if we force checks to make sure that any multi-accounting is for a good reason and not for abuse... then it is fascist?

How in the nine hells would you then check?! Damned if they do, damned if they don't...

As for "how do they check" that will never be answered if they have any sense in them (no reason to tell the public of a detection method otherwise it is easier to find it and avoid it).

[Kafein]

I am starting to despise some aspects of the 21st century mentalities..

So let me get this straight, if we allow unchecked multi-accounting then people whine on the forums that it is unfair (and have done so in the past) but if we force checks to make sure that any multi-accounting is for a good reason and not for abuse... then it is fascist?

How in the nine hells would you then check?! Damned if they do, damned if they don't...

As for "how do they check" that will never be answered if they have any sense in them (no reason to tell the public of a detection method otherwise it is easier to find it and avoid it).

Don't get me wrong. It's necessary to enforce the rules. But I merely said that having to bring proof of your innocence is sort of "pre Magna-Carta"-ish. I'm not really against this method in this case. Simply because the other way around would be even worse. If the devs had to prove that people are double-accounting, no one would ever be banned for that, and we know some people are double-accounting.

[Gorath]

You can blame all the morons who abuse shit that we have to do such things.

We can't have nice things because a few 'tards out there can not be trusted. Blame those who created the system and the initial need for it, not the system managers.

Well I'm biased because personally I don't understand why I SHOULDN'T be allowed to use the RL money I've EARNED by working in order to pay for an advantage.  Nolifers and kids get to spend all the time in the world to gain an advantage, but are usually fucking poor.  Why shouldn't those of us that don't have that time get to spend money to get back to even ground?  How fucking dare gamers work and have lives outside of games.

[Cepeshi]

Well I'm biased because personally I don't understand why I SHOULDN'T be allowed to use the RL money I've EARNED by working in order to pay for an advantage.  Nolifers and kids get to spend all the time in the world to gain an advantage, but are usually fucking poor.  Why shouldn't those of us that don't have that time get to spend money to get back to even ground?  How fucking dare gamers work and have lives outside of games.

+1n:

[Kafein]

Well I'm biased because personally I don't understand why I SHOULDN'T be allowed to use the RL money I've EARNED by working in order to pay for an advantage.  Nolifers and kids get to spend all the time in the world to gain an advantage, but are usually fucking poor.  Why shouldn't those of us that don't have that time get to spend money to get back to even ground?  How fucking dare gamers work and have lives outside of games.

Because the exact same kiddos that play 24/7 can rob their dad/mom/grandpa/grandma/cousin/dog/cactus to get as much money as they want. Giving advantages for money would only fuck the really poor gamers, young adults.

[Niemand]

One of my clanmates was going to holidays and sent his char to us from the other half of the map. He told me to use his login (he gave it to me) to sit him in a village so he wont get randomized.

I knew the rule and had some hours to think about it.

To be honest I tried but the login was wrong. If i should be punished then do that, I don't think that my doing had been wrong. I was and am not in a war, I wouldn't move his troops/money to my char, just bring him to a save place. Like dragging a wounded man behind a wall.

I don't know if i would do/try that "again" in the future, depends on the situation, but i don't think so.

Well I'm biased because personally I don't understand why I SHOULDN'T be allowed to use the RL money I've EARNED by working in order to pay for an advantage.  Nolifers and kids get to spend all the time in the world to gain an advantage, but are usually fucking poor.  Why shouldn't those of us that don't have that time get to spend money to get back to even ground?  How fucking dare gamers work and have lives outside of games.

YOU ARE A BITCH OF BABYLON! THROW AWAY YOUR MONEY! (in my direction please, kind Sir, I am a nolifer... but workin hard to get a life... but luck is not on my side... )

[Tears of Destiny]

Well I'm biased because personally I don't understand why I SHOULDN'T be allowed to use the RL money I've EARNED by working in order to pay for an advantage.  Nolifers and kids get to spend all the time in the world to gain an advantage, but are usually fucking poor.  Why shouldn't those of us that don't have that time get to spend money to get back to even ground?  How fucking dare gamers work and have lives outside of games.

Think of it this way.

In RL, your RL time is spend grinding for RL money that gets you RL things.

In Internet_Game, your online time is spent grinding for RL money that gets you Internet_Game things, and won't do diddly shit to allow you to properly visit the doctor, attract a significant other (being able to afford food and have a haircut goes a long way believe it or not), and have RL toys and RL vacations.

I think RL people actually have the advantage, and the "no_lifers" only have the games... so who fucking cares.

[Gorath]

I think RL people actually have the advantage, and the "no_lifers" only have the games... so who fucking cares.

Who fucking cares?  Those of us who's main hobby (other than getting piss drunk with our friends at social events:  bars, clubs, concerts, etc) is gaming but because of the sad fact of life grew up and so watched our free time dwindle down into single digit hours per week.  I mean hell, I can spend an assload of cash on say racing, hunting, fishing, etc to gain advantages in those hobbies (and yet still have to use my own skill to actually succeed, albeit less so because of mechanical advantages bought and paid for) but not gaming?  Well at least not in this mod.  Most proper "MMO" style games don't seem to mind taking my cash to give me tangible benefits in their gaming world over the worthless masses nolifers kids/ unemployed that put me back on an even ground compared to the time they spend in-game.  In fact many of these games see the overall benefit to their company to do so and so implement online stores and such allowing me to bypass grind by buying a good weapon or armor.  No better than what people can grind for, but on par with what they have to spend hours to obtain at least.

chadz.  Implement real-world transactions for troops, strat gold and heirlooms and you can supplement your server costs and tuition/book fees for sure.   

*In before anyone takes this too fucking serious.  It's only a half-hearted/felt rant.  Lighten up.*

[Tears of Destiny]

So, tldr version is, punish the players then who make very little money and have very little free time, so now not only are they screwed from lack of grinding/practice time, but also would be screwed from lack of cash because they spent it all on food and rent? They would then make a near identical rant like yours, calling for a free game.

[Gorath]

So, tldr version is, punish the players then who make very little money and have very little free time, so now not only are they screwed from lack of grinding/practice time, but also would be screwed from lack of cash because they spent it all on food and rent? They would then make a near identical rant like yours, calling for a free game.

Those are called "poor people".  Fuck them.  Capitalism:  FUCK YEAH!

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But no, seriously, fuck poor people.   

*I also presume you're poor but not living at home with the parents.   *