Strategus accountsharing/multiaccounting and it's consequences

[kukufarikki]

This character NOT interacts with any (except see bellow) entities of Strategus like:

• traveling over the map
• visiting fiefs
• gathering troops\golds
• buying\selling equipment
• attacking and is attacked
• gathering intelligence info
• transferring goods from one to other characters\fiefs\locations
• (in future) defending caravans
• (in future) crafting equipment
• applying to the battles (only)
• nothing more !

you shouldn't be doing ANYTHING with strategus with a second key, which includes helping out strategus factions

[3ABP]

you shouldn't be doing ANYTHING with strategus with a second key, which includes helping out strategus factions

I playing game. Working I am in the other place. Here I am playing.
I want to play as melee now. And I will play.
I don't want to delete any of my characters. And I don't do it.

At the same time I understand and respect the rules. And follow them.
As far as possible.

So I added polearm-guy to the Strategus.
If my previous "game-style" isn't acceptable for admin's\dev's-team - I can do next:
While I playing my polearm-character (as a main and only one single character) - my old character (archer)
will be moved out of the game (not technically) - just will stay at the corner of the map and do nothing,
and I will not touch at all "archer" account while playing polearm.

When I want to play archer again - I will just swap them (pole goes to the corner - archer goes back).

I don't see any rules violation in my case.
Words of rules - definitely. But I strongly follow to the spirit of the law.

Why dev's just didn't accept kinngrimm proposition?

[Draggon]

I see the logic behind not allowing multiple accounts as it would be very easy for people to have x number of accounts just farming gold/troops and not actively playing cRPG.

However, not allowing anyone from the same guild to login and help each other coordinate when needed to drop troops / gear, to me, seems a little over the top.  All this does is cater to the people who I've seen referenced to as the "no lifers".

For instance, in our guild almost everyone has full time jobs or even (like in my case), jobs that take you away from being able to play cRPG or logging into Vent for a week at a time or more.  It's very helpful if you can just ask someone to move your Strategus character or perform a transaction for you via forums when needed - albeit, not all the time.  Just periodically if it is in fact, needed.

To say that a guild has to wait for guild member <insert name> to come home from his/her night job before the guild can make a move as a whole... I don't think is the best way to handle this.

My suggestion to an alternative would be to watch for those accounts that obviously don't have any cRPG activity and are being used as farming accounts.  And ban those plus the account of the controller.

[Goretooth]

Well I'm biased because personally I don't understand why I SHOULDN'T be allowed to use the RL money I've EARNED by working in order to pay for an advantage.  Nolifers and kids get to spend all the time in the world to gain an advantage, but are usually fucking poor.  Why shouldn't those of us that don't have that time get to spend money to get back to even ground?  How fucking dare gamers work and have lives outside of games.

lol just play the game

[Erasmas]

My suggestion to an alternative would be to watch for those accounts that obviously don't have any cRPG activity and are being used as farming accounts. 

Bad idea IMHO. I play cRPG very, very rarely recently. I'd love to change that, but I simply do not  have enough time for that. At the same time I am very active on Strat as a lot of things is going on. Strat and cRPG are now becoming more separated than ever, with change in money transfer from cRPG to Strategus. Moreover, I can be logged in Strat at work (on my own account, to be clear), while I cant/do not want to play cRPG on my business comp, just like on my laptop, my smartphone, or my friends' computers when I see them. And if you ask - yes, some of them are my clanmates, I was best men at the wedding of one of them Is anything wrong with that? Everyone can log into Strat on other computers, you just need a web  browser to do it...

Most of the guys involved in leading Strat clans sacrifice cRPG time for Strat time...

down @ Kinngrimm - great suggestion, maybe with some tweaks...

[kinngrimm]

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Most of the guys involved in leading Strat clans sacrifice cRPG time for Strat time...

this

also
Erasmas have a look at suggestion I)
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,15176.msg214989.html#msg214989

[Dach]

What about people logging in at home and at work? 

(sorry if already posted, didn't read the 6 pages)

[Cepeshi]

What about people logging in at home and at work? 

(sorry if already posted, didn't read the 6 pages)

as long as you use the same account from both locations, no problem the point is disallowing more cd keys per player for use in strat

[Loki]

I don't see why we're even talking about this still.  It's clear the devs are blow hards and won't actually enforce any of this stuff.

I've never logged into someone else's account nor do I need a second account.  I don't see why anybody else would need to either, and they deserve to be banned if they do.  It's really ruining the game to have you assholes farming with 7-8 characters, and logging into every clanmate's account to transfer troops and gold.

[Meow]

I don't see any rules violation in my case.

Are you kidding me?
Thread title: Strategus accountsharing/multiaccounting and it's consequences

Yes, that's right. A single person is not allowed to use multiple CD keys. That has also been announced.

A single person can not have several cd keys.
A single person cannot have the login data of other players to play strat for them.
Multiple persons in one household can have multiple cd keys, as long as they are kept seperate. Be assured that there are ways to figure out if one account is played by different people or one person.

Trying to cheat with those things will result in the ban of at least one and probably both keys. Depends if it was a honest mistake or deliberately trying to bypass the system.

catch my drift?

Also to all those guys going "oh noes nothing is happening".
Please be aware that reducing the player base by whole clans seams like a bad idea.
Gladly there is something called logs and we got em.
Just because we didn't go on an insta ban spree but instead chose to make everyone aware of this AGAIN doesn't mean there won't be any repercussions for those people who keept or keep ignoring those rules.

For the ideas posted in here we will evaluate those ideas and use what works best with the new features.

[3ABP]

Are you kidding me?
...

I did your job for you. You don't even need to read a logs.
You know my nick now. If I deserve a ban - let it be.

[Loki]

Nobody is going to stop because nobody is being stopped.  Enforce the rules and the threat of being banned will make people think twice.  But this constant threat with no teeth is really just annoying the piss out of me.  This is a 6 page thread with a bunch of cheaters admitting that they're cheating and you do nothing to them.  That'll get them to stop.

Do what the surrender-monkeys used to do to captured English archers.  Cut their fingers off, cut their eyes out, cut their peckers off and make them choke on it.

[Meow]

Then maybe stop reading it or something?
I mean if you are into annoying the crap out of yourself by bothering with this any longer i really can't help you.

You know we never did and most likely never will have a wall of shame or any other kind of names released on banned people except if they request an unban on the forums.

So better don't expect to hear about any of those bans.

[Loki]

Well don't expect anyone to take your empty threats seriously.  Cheat on cheaters.

[Rogue]

Not wanting a wall of shame and the resulting angry mobs starting a witch hunt all over the forums is understandable, but

Also to all those guys going "oh noes nothing is happening".
Please be aware that reducing the player base by whole clans seams like a bad idea.
Gladly there is something called logs and we got em.

I don't agree that not banning those guys that did share accounts is a bad idea, even if it's a large amount of players.
Multiing is the worst form of cheating in browser games and the rules are not only obvious, but well known from last round.
I am glad you brought this topic up again, but at the same time you should ban everyone caught using multiple accounts at least from strategus for the remainder of the current round.