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Title: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: POOPHAMMER on August 26, 2011, 03:03:15 pm
I used to play this game all the time because I would always retire, always look forward to progressing a character after retiring and just having fun doing it.

So I decide to stop retiring and set focus on a build. Hit 31 and that nice wall of 9 million xp is kinda like... Oh.... Fuck that. I need to find some way to motivate me to play :/

It also really makes me realize how much more fun old crpg was :( all that was wrong with it was the WPF transfer to each generation.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Overdriven on August 26, 2011, 03:07:01 pm
I'd disagree. I've got everything I want heir loomed on my HA char now (except arrows but cba to do those really), and I love being at level 30 and just enjoying my full build for the fun. There's no real need for any crazy goals or achievements if you just enjoy playing. Also try some alts?
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: POOPHAMMER on August 26, 2011, 03:08:08 pm
I'd disagree. I've got everything I want heir loomed on my HA char now (except arrows but cba to do those really), and I love being at level 30 and just enjoying my full build for the fun. There's no real need for any crazy goals or achievements if you just enjoy playing. Also try some alts?

It just feels like I am playing native but stuck with one class to choose from, and one class I can change every week.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Meow on August 26, 2011, 03:09:54 pm
feel free to give me some looms so you can regrind them if that helps with your motivation :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Overdriven on August 26, 2011, 03:10:29 pm
It just feels like I am playing native but stuck with one class to choose from, and one class I can change every week.

That's why I decided to leave my HA build now, seeing as it's finished, and use it just for strat/playing with GK when they are on. Otherwise I now play with my alts, so I have a nice choice between my xbow, shielder and 2h atm and give myself goals to achieve with them. I can see where you are coming from, but for me the solution is the alts, and I play with my HA for fun when I know it is fun, rather than grinding.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Michael on August 26, 2011, 03:18:54 pm
Just delete your main and start a new skip the fun level 30 char every week. Thats what I did.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: roymorrison on August 26, 2011, 03:20:12 pm
For me the game doesn't get fun until I hit 31.  Actually I've spent so long at 32 for different builds that I need to be level 32 now.  Retirement is pointless now because of the auction house, and I like that.

Game is more about fighting for me as opposed to getting sweet purpz. 
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Christo on August 26, 2011, 03:24:46 pm
Okay, cool. So say that you can rely on the marketplace now.

Tell me one thing.

HOW?

The heirlooms cost so much.. I barely have 100k, let alone millions for buying stuff there.

I wonder how much cash these players who say that the marketplace is awesome are sitting on. It's just.. insane, like in some MMORPG, where money actually means next to nothing, and items are horribly priced and are selling for millions.

I mean getting money for ONE heirloom point would take ages. Let alone MW-ing something via the market. It's just crazy.  :P
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Bobthehero on August 26, 2011, 03:26:33 pm
MUST.GET.TOO.LEVEL.34
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 26, 2011, 03:27:02 pm
Odd, I am enjoying it more then ever with never retiring. Of course, I also have more then a dozen alts to rotate through if bored.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Meow on August 26, 2011, 03:29:17 pm
when the market hit some people were at a million + gold.
those started to buy looms and sell them for more gold.
overtime a few people got a massive amount of money and looms which are now sold to prices only those people can afford.

kinda like in the real world :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Lord_Panos on August 26, 2011, 03:33:17 pm
Swipe em all.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 26, 2011, 03:33:26 pm
when the market hit some people were at a million + gold.
those started to buy looms and sell them for more gold.
overtime a few people got a massive amount of money and looms which are now sold to prices only those people can afford.

kinda like in the real world :mrgreen:

CAPITALIST SCHWINEZ!


Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: chadz on August 26, 2011, 03:34:24 pm
And now for something completely different:

We are currently considering a 4th loom level that you can get by retiring at level 33.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Meow on August 26, 2011, 03:34:54 pm
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Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Christo on August 26, 2011, 03:36:30 pm
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Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 26, 2011, 03:38:14 pm
And now for something completely different:

We are currently considering a 4th loom level that you can get by retiring at level 33.

You... Bastard...
This screws up everything!  :lol:
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Thucydides on August 26, 2011, 03:39:32 pm
a 4th loom level at 33? jesus fuck
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Overdriven on August 26, 2011, 03:41:07 pm
33? It better be one hell of an heirloom. That's an insane amount of grinding that only a few players have really achieved.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 26, 2011, 03:41:38 pm
Why hello quad rus bow, how you doin?
If this is not a troll and hell does not in fact freeze over, then I am so hitting that retire button the instant this comes out.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Christo on August 26, 2011, 03:46:37 pm
If this is true, I wonder what the new modifiers would be.

I mean for a lvl33 grind, it should be something nice as a reward, not just +1 something that's uselees. :P
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Leshma on August 26, 2011, 03:48:06 pm
And now for something completely different:

We are currently considering a 4th loom level that you can get by retiring at level 33.

Weren't you the guy who said that you implemented upkeep because mod was becoming grind fest.

Troll much?
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Christo on August 26, 2011, 03:49:13 pm
Weren't you the guy who said that you implemented upkeep because mod was becoming grind fest.

Troll much?

The 30-31-etc grind was implemented because of the "grind fest" problem too.

Fight fire with fire, as they say.  :)
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: chadz on August 26, 2011, 03:53:43 pm
Truth to be told, I can't wait to see at what price a quad loom would be traded for. Needless to say, they have to be rare :)
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Bulzur on August 26, 2011, 03:53:53 pm
IF this is no troll, i guess there will be more late retiring going on.
lv33 could have gave you 4 lv31 "normal" heirlooms. But you play a high level character for 3 all lv31 gen, so it's... easier ?
The 4th loom stats mustn't break the heirloom balance either. I'm the contrary of Christo, i wouldn't want something too powerful. 3rd is +1 speed/+1 dmg, for example. 4th should be the same, and no more.
You already have the exceptional choice of heirlooming AGAIN your most used item, instead of having a dozen +2 weapon, wich is big luck. Don't ask for more.

To OP :
No idea. :( I never played for more than 5min at lv31, so i can't tell if it's boring. My main pleasure comes from getting kills at peasants levels. Killing a lv30 with a lv20, makes you feel good. Killing 10 lv30 as a lv31 is more for very good players. Not like me.^^
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Leshma on August 26, 2011, 03:55:01 pm
I think that equus africanus asinus keeps developing this mod for only one reason, too see how low (far) we, guinea pigs, will go.

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Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: POOPHAMMER on August 26, 2011, 03:55:30 pm
And now for something completely different:

We are currently considering a 4th loom level that you can get by retiring at level 33.

If only
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Christo on August 26, 2011, 03:56:40 pm
Truth to be told, I can't wait to see at what price a quad loom would be traded for. Needless to say, they have to be rare :)

I'd love to see what idiot would sell such a thing.

I mean whaaat.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Leshma on August 26, 2011, 04:00:28 pm
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Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Inporylem on August 26, 2011, 04:04:49 pm
Glad to see this game is turning into a gearfest too. Soon we see ppl running in +4 Maus:es ramming houses and ofc topping the scoreboard.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Bobthehero on August 26, 2011, 04:08:00 pm
OH FUCK

MUST.GET.TO.LEVEL.33

I quadding my long espada for sure :D
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Camaris on August 26, 2011, 04:15:08 pm
And now for something completely different:

We are currently considering a 4th loom level that you can get by retiring at level 33.

So you give us a 4th loomlvl and after 2-3 months nerf looms so 4th is what now is 3rd?
That would be very chadzious :)
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Lord_Panos on August 26, 2011, 04:16:43 pm
Well i have a better idea..

Keep the looms as it is ,besides we dont need 4th loom level and do something with that useless grind from 1 to 30 and make the retirement on level 32 instead of 31.

How about that?
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Arrowblood on August 26, 2011, 04:20:49 pm
What about that:
chadz sells attributes,skillpoints,loompoints,cookies,and a wardonkey?
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: POOPHAMMER on August 26, 2011, 04:23:47 pm
idk maybe I just need to give cRPG a break

Now with Deus Ex HR, it might occupy me long enough so when I play cRPG I will not get bored so quickly of it
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 26, 2011, 04:25:27 pm
idk maybe I just need to give cRPG a break

Now with Deus Ex HR, it might occupy me long enough so when I play cRPG I will not get bored so quickly of it

Yeah go for it.

Nothing beats Deus Ex.

Best game ever. And haven't played Human Revolution yet but i bet it's gonna be awesome.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Mtemtko on August 26, 2011, 04:28:27 pm
I'll give 2 MWs for a 4. loom , any takers? :D
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: POOPHAMMER on August 26, 2011, 04:34:19 pm
Yeah go for it.

Nothing beats Deus Ex.

Best game ever. And haven't played Human Revolution yet but i bet it's gonna be awesome.

This is my first Deus Ex game I have played and I am loving it so far, I think after this I am going to back track through the series
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 26, 2011, 04:41:19 pm
This is my first Deus Ex game I have played and I am loving it so far, I think after this I am going to back track through the series

1st one set the tone for atmospheric play and was a cool story, I still play it once a year or so (especially since I modded the PC version with the PS2 soundtrack and music which uses a real orchestra, and also modded it with the better cutscenes). 2nd one is... controversal compared to the first. Opinions radically vary on it unlike the 1st one.

Anywho, I do highly recommend taking a break from cRPG to avoid total burnout. I myself shoudl be getting my DE:HR Augmented soon in the mail, then I too shall lose myself!

Have fun!
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: POOPHAMMER on August 26, 2011, 04:43:03 pm
1st one set the tone for atmospheric play and was a cool story, I still play it once a year or so (especially since I modded the PC version with the PS2 soundtrack and music which uses a real orchestra, and also modded it with the better cutscenes). 2nd one is... controversal compared to the first. Opinions radically vary on it unlike the 1st one.

Anywho, I do highly recommend taking a break from cRPG to avoid total burnout. I myself shoudl be getting my DE:HR Augmented soon in the mail, then I too shall lose myself!

Have fun!

You will love it, I am having a blast with this game it is awesome, though I do not know how it compares to the others. I will have to find that out for myself.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Dexxtaa on August 26, 2011, 04:45:15 pm
I'd like a 4th loom.

I have a particular weapon I'm interested in heirlooming.

ps x4 great maul one shots houses and siege equipment.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 26, 2011, 04:51:57 pm
You will love it, I am having a blast with this game it is awesome, though I do not know how it compares to the others. I will have to find that out for myself.

Hopy HR won't be too demanding in terms of PC specs :P

And yeah 1st one was off the charts. Probably imho best game ever. Anyways take a break from cRPG.


Btw just gotta ask you 1 thing. Mini-spoiler. Have there been any mention of ''Illuminati'' or ''Majestic 12'' so far in HR?
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Tydeus on August 26, 2011, 04:52:11 pm
Please no. Absolutely terrible idea. This is just going to make new people feel even more behind, however "rare" you think they're going to be, day 1 you're probably looking at having 20 of them, and that's if it came out tomorrow. Give people time to prepare for this and you're going to have a hell of a lot more than that. Meanwhile it increases the difficulty of balancing items.

As to the OP, I agree. Less on the point of level 31 being boring and more about c-rpg as a whole. Not going to get into details on this here, don't want to take over this thread but simply adding populated(Meaning don't give people an incentive to play OTHER modes by not giving xp/gold to these servers) FFA or TDM(Unlike Battle, this actually has respawns) servers would renew interest in c-rpg for quite a few people that I know.

Also, Murmillus_Prime, why are you -1 bombing everyone?
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Veto on August 26, 2011, 04:54:02 pm
dumb idea is dumb, chadz. but seeing as you hate us in reality we know your gonna do it, thus furthering the gap between new and old players. at least we all had fun times when retiring was about money and a time limit, and to me seemed like the most balanced and fun crpg yet. now those days are nothing but a mental picture in a mental scrap book in my mental attic, never to be seen again
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Keshian on August 26, 2011, 04:55:08 pm
I like the idea, some people would really like this (though it should be the equivalent advantage of the first 3 heirlooms combined for it to make sense with the 4 retirement's worth of xp).  I personally wont do it because I'm more interested in Strategus, but I look forward to offering a million gold and a MW item for 1 quad-loomed horn/rus/long bow or 1 quad-loomed normal/barbed/tatar arrows.   :twisted:
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Zorato on August 26, 2011, 04:57:31 pm
And now for something completely different:

We are currently considering a 4th loom level that you can get by retiring at level 33.

That doesn't make the game any more fun for those that are getting bored of it.  :?
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Gorath on August 26, 2011, 04:57:52 pm
Also, Murmillus_Prime, why are you -1 bombing everyone?

Cause he's a bitch.  Just ignore him.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: POOPHAMMER on August 26, 2011, 04:58:38 pm
Please no. Absolutely terrible idea. This is just going to make new people feel even more behind, however "rare" you think they're going to be, day 1 you're probably looking at having 20 of them, and that's if it came out tomorrow. Give people time to prepare for this and you're going to have a hell of a lot more than that. Meanwhile it increases the difficulty of balancing items.

As to the OP, I agree. Less on the point of level 31 being boring and more about c-rpg as a whole. Not going to get into details on this here, don't want to take over this thread but simply adding populated(Meaning don't give people an incentive to play OTHER modes by not giving xp/gold to these servers) FFA or TDM(Unlike Battle, this actually has respawns) servers would renew interest in c-rpg for quite a few people that I know.

Also, Murmillus_Prime, why are you -1 bombing everyone?

He is muted lol, his only way to reply
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: POOPHAMMER on August 26, 2011, 05:03:08 pm
Hopy HR won't be too demanding in terms of PC specs :P

And yeah 1st one was off the charts. Probably imho best game ever. Anyways take a break from cRPG.


Btw just gotta ask you 1 thing. Mini-spoiler. Have there been any mention of ''Illuminati'' or ''Majestic 12'' so far in HR?

Oh what are your specs? I just recently upgraded everything except for my videocard (will do next week)

I am running everything maxed out as far as I know at a very smooth 60 FPS (very slight stutter, I imagine a videocard upgrade will do the trick)

AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.2 ghz
8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
GIGABYTE GA-970A-D3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Sapphire ATI Radeon Sapphire HD4850 HD 4850 pcie x16 GDDR3 512MB HDMI
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Tydeus on August 26, 2011, 05:06:26 pm
That doesn't make the game any more fun for those that are getting bored of it.  :?
Indeed, but simple game modes that are already in Warband, would.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 26, 2011, 05:07:55 pm
I used to play this game all the time because I would always retire, always look forward to progressing a character after retiring and just having fun doing it.

So I decide to stop retiring and set focus on a build. Hit 31 and that nice wall of 9 million xp is kinda like... Oh.... Fuck that. I need to find some way to motivate me to play :/

It also really makes me realize how much more fun old crpg was :( all that was wrong with it was the WPF transfer to each generation.

You play games because of the achievements and leveling process?  Video game enjoyment, you're doing it wrong.

Sometimes drugs make the games you get bored with more fun, other times finding a new game to play will do the trick.  With attitudes like yours no wonder WoW is such a popular shitty game.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Classical on August 26, 2011, 05:12:06 pm
You will love it, I am having a blast with this game it is awesome, though I do not know how it compares to the others. I will have to find that out for myself.

Yeah, I really enjoyed DE: HR, a nice refreshing break from e-horses all day, I'm really liking it. I'd like to do a back track through the series again, just because you would be going forward in time with every game you play (Even though Invisible War sucked), and I didn't play enough of the original DE.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 26, 2011, 05:17:12 pm
Oh what are your specs? I just recently upgraded everything except for my videocard (will do next week)

I am running everything maxed out as far as I know at a very smooth 60 FPS (very slight stutter, I imagine a videocard upgrade will do the trick)

AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.2 ghz
8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
GIGABYTE GA-970A-D3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Sapphire ATI Radeon Sapphire HD4850 HD 4850 pcie x16 GDDR3 512MB HDMI


Lol i will def not be maxing it. Prolly combo of Med-High  :( Oh well.

Yeah, I really enjoyed DE: HR, a nice refreshing break from e-horses all day, I'm really liking it. I'd like to do a back track through the series again, just because you would be going forward in time with every game you play (Even though Invisible War sucked), and I didn't play enough of the original DE.
SO MINI SPOILERS!? Will Majestic 12 and Illuminati atleast get a sidequest? ;(

Damn was too great with the conspiracy theories :D
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Uumdi on August 26, 2011, 05:32:24 pm
Just think of the difference between a gen 1 longbow archer, and a +4 longbow with +3 arrows.  Don't do this to us.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on August 26, 2011, 05:35:57 pm
Quad loom = new chadz troll
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Trikipum on August 26, 2011, 06:01:07 pm
i hope is just trolling, but adding a 4th heirloom at level 33 its a very bad idea. Its a bad idea mostly coz the game put already many barriers to new players and even for long time players who have a work and such you know. This will just apeal to the no lifers (wont point at anyone). In the end you will get 20 players full of heirlooms and crap, and new players just wont stay for  long enough. I just dont get it, you "fixed" the game to avoid uber strong players, and then you just add more and more crap that requires loads of loads of time for the same, to become uber strong.. just dont get why you fix something to break it in the next patch. Btw, the game doesnt get boring at level 31 its actually the same crap than at level 27 but easier. If your fun comes from putting yourself silly objetives like "being the most heirloomed of the year" or something like that.. then you already need another game. The game should be fun just for the fact of playing it, you know, swinging swords, stabing ppl, trolling etc etc :). I mean, if you play a game just coz it has a carrot in front of you and you try to get it...then you better play a donkey training game (like wow or similar),action games like mount and blade are meant to be enjoyable just for the sake of playing it, not coz you expect to have item "x" in "y" months.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 26, 2011, 06:40:37 pm
i hope is just trolling, but adding a 4th heirloom at level 33 its a very bad idea. Its a bad idea mostly coz the game put already many barriers to new players and even for long time players who have a work and such you know. This will just apeal to the no lifers (wont point at anyone). In the end you will get 20 players full of heirlooms and crap, and new players just wont stay for  long enough. I just dont get it, you "fixed" the game to avoid uber strong players, and then you just add more and more crap that requires loads of loads of time for the same, to become uber strong.. just dont get why you fix something to break it in the next patch. Btw, the game doesnt get boring at level 31 its actually the same crap than at level 27 but easier. If your fun comes from putting yourself silly objetives like "being the most heirloomed of the year" or something like that.. then you already need another game. The game should be fun just for the fact of playing it, you know, swinging swords, stabing ppl, trolling etc etc :). I mean, if you play a game just coz it has a carrot in front of you and you try to get it...then you better play a equus africanus asinus training game (like wow or similar),action games like mount and blade are meant to be enjoyable just for the sake of playing it, not coz you expect to have item "x" in "y" months.

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Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: ArchonAlarion on August 26, 2011, 06:57:04 pm
Maybe it would be better if each generation raised the soft level cap/heirloom by 1 level.

Main chars gen 1 cap at 26, Alt chars cap at 21. Allow main chars to trade with alts. Only main chars can produce heirlooms. STF at lvl 25. This would give a greater incentive to generate characters, and reduce the gap between chars stat-wise.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 26, 2011, 07:00:35 pm
That means Kesh with Gen 30-something would have a soft cap of about 55?

Interesting... Powerdraw like all skills now cap at 15... this could be fun... On the other hand, a courser at 15 riding would be just damned hilarious....
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on August 26, 2011, 07:01:34 pm
I'd disagree. I've got everything I want heir loomed on my HA char now (except arrows but cba to do those really), and I love being at level 30 and just enjoying my full build for the fun. There's no real need for any crazy goals or achievements if you just enjoy playing. Also try some alts?

+1

i now enjoy my build with my gear set done. and i can play ONLY when i really enjoy it.

for the fun or some character building, there are alts.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Sergee on August 26, 2011, 07:01:43 pm
the game gets more fun after 31 imo you can just log on and play instead of grinddddddd
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 26, 2011, 07:06:45 pm
the game gets more fun after 31 imo you can just log on and play instead of grinddddddd

Exactly, with a pantheon of leveled alts and my main, it is bliss to just switch and be instantly at the class that I desire.

The only time I made a STF was to test out an extreme build for the indestructible shield gig... I really don't consider my time spent on my alts to be wasted due to having such freedom.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Prpavi on August 26, 2011, 07:20:53 pm
the "finaly" build drove me nuts, never doing that again. (mind you i was gen 11 post gen nerf, 2 mil to lvl 33 left and i deleted my char)

so now after my rage quit im gen 2 and i plan on retiring just for the fuck of it, this game is super boring once u got all looms and final build nothing to play really exept k/d and fuck k/d this is not cod  :wink:

retire and have fun ppl i feel sorry for the 33/34 lvl guys really.

Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: [ptx] on August 26, 2011, 07:51:21 pm
I thought so too, until my main hit lvl31. Didn't really feel like heirlooming anything, so didn't retire. After a few tries at playing with that, i just went and heirloomed whatever, just so i wouldn't be lvl31.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Quallen on August 26, 2011, 08:03:45 pm
the game gets more fun after 31 imo you can just log on and play instead of grinddddddd

Yep, this.  I'm only gen 9 but for me its already switched from "I can't wait to retire" to "god I can't wait until I'm 30 again."

@Prpavi- Maybe its my FPS background but I think there is always room for self-improvement in this game and that will always be what drives me forward.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: ArchonAlarion on August 26, 2011, 08:15:06 pm
That means Kesh with Gen 30-something would have a soft cap of about 55?

Well if there wasn't a char wipe first, then yeah lol.

But okay, I'll adjust the idea slightly. The amount of generations needed per soft lvl cap increase would increase exponentially (and I'm speaking of soft not hard lvl caps btw). So, gen 1 lvl cap 26, gen 2 lvl cap 27, gen 4 lvl cap 28, gen 8 lvl cap 29, gen 16 lvl cap 30, etc.

If necessary, the gen 1 lvl cap can be increased, or the progression modified to accelerate lvl cap increase (if 16 gens for lvl 30 cap is too much or w/e).

What say thee?
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Torp on August 26, 2011, 09:04:51 pm
Okay, cool. So say that you can rely on the marketplace now.

Tell me one thing.

HOW?

The heirlooms cost so much.. I barely have 100k, let alone millions for buying stuff there.

I wonder how much cash these players who say that the marketplace is awesome are sitting on. It's just.. insane, like in some MMORPG, where money actually means next to nothing, and items are horribly priced and are selling for millions.

I mean getting money for ONE heirloom point would take ages. Let alone MW-ing something via the market. It's just crazy.  :P

people like me and poophammer have earned shitloads of gold/heirlooms through trading... by cheap, sell overpriced=profit

Also, i agree with overdriven on this one... I enjoy playing my lvl 33 main, but i also use ltos of time playing alts.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Leshma on August 26, 2011, 09:30:25 pm
I'll rather see full wipe than 4th heirloom level.

I'll rather see contaminated forest completely burned to the ground so a new one and healthy can grow up than to preserve it which means it's just gonna get worse over time.

4th gen is a terrible idea and I really hope that chadz is trolling us.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Bobthehero on August 26, 2011, 10:13:37 pm
NAy nay nay, 4th gen loom would be great, but that mean I would have to restart my path to level 33 should it happens.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 26, 2011, 10:16:31 pm
Considering how many loom points you would be skipping to get that 4th point, it would actually cut down on the number of looms.

I honestly like the idea, force the player to give up a lot of loom points and (potentially) a couple of gen bonuses just to hyper specialize a heirloom.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Bobthehero on August 26, 2011, 10:19:19 pm
I'd do it in heartbeat, if I could I would propably trade the loom point of my plate armor for a free level over 31.


Edit: NEW IDEA! What I just said! Trade a loom point for a free le- wait, bad idea, fuck it, dont do it, too abusable. nopenopenope.jpg.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Torp on August 26, 2011, 11:08:54 pm
it takes like 3 months to reach lvl 33... i wouldnt do it
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Mtemtko on August 26, 2011, 11:15:21 pm
it takes like 3 months to reach lvl 33... i wouldnt do it

yeps if you play casualy..
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 26, 2011, 11:18:03 pm
yeps if you play casualy..

Kesh should get 1 for free.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Leshma on August 26, 2011, 11:18:59 pm
Well I would need a month at least, too much imo. Don't like the idea at all.

I'll rather see soft cap at lvl 50 and complete rework of leveling, wpf. Do like hybrids and twats killed hybrids.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Mannhammer on August 26, 2011, 11:27:00 pm
How about: If you loom a master work item for the fourth time at lvl 33 it transfers the item from your "cRPG" character to your "Strat" character. Your character would then gain access to the transferred masterwork item in strat battles but lose it for cRPG. This would make the cRPG environment less hostile to new players, and keeps the old players, especially strat oriented players, grinding away. This wouldn't break strat because very few players could invest the time to carry over a lot of master work items.

What do you think?
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on August 26, 2011, 11:30:02 pm
Well I would need a month at least, too much imo. Don't like the idea at all.

I'll rather see soft cap at lvl 50 and complete rework of leveling, wpf. Do like hybrids and twats killed hybrids.

50 is a bit too much. but level 39 was good... hybrids did not sucked, pure melee balanced was 24/24, 18/30 cav was common, 30/18 str biased too. no jack of all trades because a extreme STR build required anyway a lot of skill conversions to have 42/3 or 45/3 like burr1ck.

Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Torp on August 26, 2011, 11:31:04 pm
yeps if you play casualy..

you'd need to play ore than average in order to reach lvl 33 in 3 month imo. 2 months if you play a lot without too much gen bonus.

anways, i'd suggest a respec at lvl 33 gives you the extra loom instead of a full retirement... that way you'd still lose shitloads of exp, but be able to play anyways - (respec at lvl 33 costs you the exp it takes to reach lvl 32, which is two regular retirements for the 'extra-heirloom)

that would be way better imo
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 27, 2011, 12:07:40 am
Level 50?!

Good god do people really want that many attribute points? Bleh...
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: karasu on August 27, 2011, 12:13:44 am
Level 50?!

Good god do people really want that many attribute points? Bleh...

Yes, so I can finally be a xbow/archer/two-handed piker.  :oops:
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Christo on August 27, 2011, 12:34:40 am
Level 50?!

Good god do people really want that many attribute points? Bleh...

Haha, I tried playing around with a lvl50 attribute set, the results were.. kinda GameBreaking.

I mean whoa. 28/28 full 9 balanced builds, 16 PS/IF STR tanks with almost 120 hit points.. etc. XD
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Bobthehero on August 27, 2011, 12:39:52 am
That would be epic I would finally hit 15 powerstrike and probably able to use a shield, that would be epic.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Christo on August 27, 2011, 12:40:16 am
That would be epic I would finally hit 15 powerstrike and probably able to use a shield, that would be epic.

Haha, you could.

Level 50 (4 662 180 184 064 xp)
Strength: 45
Agility: 12
Hit points: 110
Unused skill points: 5
Skills to attributes: 4
Ironflesh: 15
Power Strike: 15
Shield: 4
Athletics: 4
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 4
One Handed: 165
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

You can even get riding because you have extra points. Meh.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Leshma on August 27, 2011, 12:42:36 am
Level 50?!

Good god do people really want that many attribute points? Bleh...

Why not? Never been higher than 31. Wanna make swiss knife hybrid :D
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 27, 2011, 12:43:46 am
Awwww become cRPG King Tiger tanks or omg.

Super fast HA with deadly precision and dmg.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 27, 2011, 12:44:53 am
Why not? Never been higher than 31. Wanna make swiss knife hybrid :D

I hear there is a game mod called Native that allows you to be a swiss army knife.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 27, 2011, 12:45:39 am
I hear there is a game mod called Native that allows you to be a swiss army knife.

Only SP ;(

Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Christo on August 27, 2011, 12:45:43 am
By the way a softcap at 35 would be much better imo.
( I could be wrong btw )

Then the hard grind would continue from 35-to 40. (Hard cap?)
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Leshma on August 27, 2011, 12:51:12 am
I like how my idea got +1 while chadz is at 0 points.

Yes, I deliberately -1 chadz post to make mine look better :mrgreen:

This thread should be renamed to epic troll thread.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Earthdforce on August 27, 2011, 12:57:21 am
(snip)
Whoa, wtf? I just plussed you and it went from +1 to +3..
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Leshma on August 27, 2011, 01:01:50 am
Bugs FTW!  :D
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: robert_namo on August 27, 2011, 01:08:17 am
I would rather have spears not overheading me behind ones teammate first, then you could add this new +4 loom. Also light armor needs some love on the bonus protection after looming because 4 more body armor is not worth 3 gens.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Mtemtko on August 27, 2011, 01:13:27 am
Awwww become cRPG King Tiger tanks or omg.

Super fast HA with deadly precision and dmg.

Been there done that.

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Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Leshma on August 27, 2011, 01:16:20 am
Yeah, remember that.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Earthdforce on August 27, 2011, 01:17:28 am
Been there done that.

(click to show/hide)
Uhh..your horse has a very large nose ring. It looks a little painful...
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Bobthehero on August 27, 2011, 01:29:17 am
Been there done that.

(click to show/hide)

Good times, good times...
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on August 27, 2011, 02:01:14 am
Level 50?!

Good god do people really want that many attribute points? Bleh...

50 is too much... but 35 or 39 would give some love for hybrid builds and pure builds too.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Asheram on August 27, 2011, 06:38:39 am
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Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 27, 2011, 06:48:30 am
How about: If you loom a master work item for the fourth time at lvl 33 it transfers the item from your "cRPG" character to your "Strat" character. Your character would then gain access to the transferred masterwork item in strat battles but lose it for cRPG. This would make the cRPG environment less hostile to new players, and keeps the old players, especially strat oriented players, grinding away. This wouldn't break strat because very few players could invest the time to carry over a lot of master work items.

What do you think?

This would be awesome.
Mebe make them still pay upkeep for it though to be funny.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Cepeshi on August 27, 2011, 07:10:31 am
This would be awesome.
Mebe make them still pay upkeep for it though to be funny.

i doubt any lvl 33guy would retire just to be able to use one item in strat and then having to lvlup again, but still, retarded idea is retarded, the minute this gets implemented i am out of this mod
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Gorath on August 27, 2011, 08:34:51 am
FFS, even more incentive for the people with lives, jobs and families to just quit fucking trying as all the nolifers start racking up +4'd gear sets.
ugh.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 27, 2011, 09:00:57 am
Been there done that.

(click to show/hide)

No that's fail. You're using that helmet when u could've used Armet instead (2 more H Armor).

That armor instead of using Black Armor (yes i know crappy design but who cares much more body armor).

Also u r using Plate Mittens when u could've been using Heavy Gauntlets.

Sure it's more knight-ish with this gear but still. Take the very best gear and boom. Bounce-a-licious.


(Also don't bring in the Cpt Georges thingie that GP with Beavor is better because more head armor. HS are easy to dodge or block with fist block for that matter. And if they would attempt to aim for the head at melee you'll pretty much see when they do it.. Body armor is the area where most atks land).
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on August 27, 2011, 09:21:20 am
No that's fail. You're using that helmet when u could've used Armet instead (2 more H Armor).

That armor instead of using Black Armor (yes i know crappy design but who cares much more body armor).

Also u r using Plate Mittens when u could've been using Heavy Gauntlets.

Sure it's more knight-ish with this gear but still. Take the very best gear and boom. Bounce-a-licious.


(Also don't bring in the Cpt Georges thingie that GP with Beavor is better because more head armor. HS are easy to dodge or block with fist block for that matter. And if they would attempt to aim for the head at melee you'll pretty much see when they do it.. Body armor is the area where most atks land)
.

so before, you say armet blabla and after you say "head armor is not worthy"?

ah was friday night... now i get it  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 27, 2011, 10:44:05 am
so before, you say armet blabla and after you say "head armor is not worthy"?

ah was friday night... now i get it  :mrgreen:

Well derp. Head Armor itself is head armor only.

But for the body armor.

With Body Armor u get Body, Legs and head if u pick gothic with beavor.

Better go best body.

Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Kafein on August 27, 2011, 10:48:25 am
FFS, even more incentive for the people with lives, jobs and families to just quit fucking trying as all the nolifers start racking up +4'd gear sets.
ugh.

Hehehe, this is not an arcade game. And some people actually like to have goals. As stupid as they may be.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Diomedes on August 27, 2011, 05:37:47 pm
Perhaps make the fourth multiplier a visual change?  E.g. a +4 Italian Sword turns into a fancy Italian Sword.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 27, 2011, 05:39:22 pm
Perhaps make the fourth multiplier a visual change?  E.g. a +4 Italian Sword turns into a fancy Italian Sword.

Now THIS is perfect. Something to offer as a reward for long hours yet the "lifers" will not bitch up a massive storm that an MMO caters to no-lifers as this does not change the game balance.

The main problem would be finding all the graphical artists.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 27, 2011, 05:47:50 pm
When you gain your +4 loom instead of stats changes you will get the option to choose what kind of elemental dmg ur weapon will do.

Fire, Earth, Water, Wind.

GOGO DANISH GREATSWORD WITH WINDSLASH LOLZ!
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Dehitay on August 27, 2011, 06:41:57 pm
Perhaps make the fourth multiplier a visual change?  E.g. a +4 Italian Sword turns into a fancy Italian Sword.
When you gain your +4 loom instead of stats changes you will get the option to choose what kind of elemental dmg ur weapon will do.

Fire, Earth, Water, Wind.

GOGO DANISH GREATSWORD WITH WINDSLASH LOLZ!
Actually, these 2 things together remind me about some pretty bad ass fancy weapons from other games. Is the torch's fire animation transferable to other items? or is it something that has to be redesigned for each one? I think it would be pretty awesome if the x4 loom of any item just had the entire item covered in flames. Imagine how bad ass it would be for somebody with unholy amounts of time and money to x4 all of his armor and run around the field as a blazing inferno. Or just get a x4 horse that looks like it came out of the depths of hell.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: [ptx] on August 27, 2011, 06:43:39 pm
It would look gay.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: POOPHAMMER on August 27, 2011, 06:47:15 pm
I would like one flaming champion sumpter horse please
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on August 27, 2011, 07:07:03 pm
no way without some + strength rings, +wpf necklaces, +armor soak cloaks.

oh and we want Dexterity, Wisdom, Charisma, Intelligence, Constitution stats to be implemented ASAP.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Leshma on August 27, 2011, 07:10:18 pm
4th loom out, lvl fiftah in

lobbying like a boss
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 27, 2011, 07:19:56 pm
no way without some + strength rings, +wpf necklaces, +armor soak cloaks.

oh and we want Dexterity, Wisdom, Charisma, Intelligence, Constitution stats to be implemented ASAP.

Charisma :D

Hehe i'm gonna charm you to death and u will blush and then fall to the ground muaahaah vicious me.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Goretooth on August 27, 2011, 08:40:37 pm
more armor? muahahha
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Xant on August 27, 2011, 08:44:42 pm
more armor? muahahha

/thread
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on August 27, 2011, 09:10:33 pm
Charisma :D

Hehe i'm gonna charm you to death and u will blush and then fall to the ground muaahaah vicious me.

yes so female characters could AOE mezz those damn archers... while high wisdom will mute your chat everytime you get a trolling chance  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Vibe on August 27, 2011, 09:42:31 pm
And now for something completely different:

We are currently considering a 4th loom level that you can get by retiring at level 33.


Not sure if I like that this would be a boost to grinders.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Fartface on August 27, 2011, 09:49:06 pm
hmm an extra loom at lvl 33.
thats gonna lead to massive grinding.
to poop i bassically just set no goal and just enjoy playing the game, i have also been playing for a long time now but i still have alot of fun.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Xant on August 27, 2011, 10:37:19 pm
Best would be if it was a visual, IMO.

As long as it's not a huge competitive edge for grinders I don't mind much, but if it's basically something that you gotta have to beat skilled people who also have it, well..
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Teeth on August 27, 2011, 10:42:12 pm
Best would be if it was a visual, IMO.

As long as it's not a huge competitive edge for grinders I don't mind much, but if it's basically something that you gotta have to beat skilled people who also have it, well..
Agreed, I propose golden weapons. Mad ugly, I know, but that doesnt matter cause I will never make it to 33.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Christo on August 27, 2011, 10:54:59 pm
Agreed, I propose golden weapons. Mad ugly, I know, but that doesnt matter cause I will never make it to 33.

Meh, golden weapons make no sense.

Those are only for decoration, and would break quickly.

Also I couldn't stand looking at a piss yellow Poleaxe.

Silver, on the other hand..  :twisted:
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Leshma on August 27, 2011, 11:34:38 pm
Black dye, make everything like it's made from ebony yo.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Warcat on August 28, 2011, 12:27:14 am
Odd, I am enjoying it more then ever with never retiring. Of course, I also have more then a dozen alts to rotate through if bored.
You enjoy it more because you're in Fallen

How about: If you loom a master work item for the fourth time at lvl 33 it transfers the item from your "cRPG" character to your "Strat" character. Your character would then gain access to the transferred masterwork item in strat battles but lose it for cRPG. This would make the cRPG environment less hostile to new players, and keeps the old players, especially strat oriented players, grinding away. This wouldn't break strat because very few players could invest the time to carry over a lot of master work items.

What do you think?
Good idea :)
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: rustyspoon on August 28, 2011, 01:32:42 am
I like this idea for a new, higher heirloom item only available at 33. Then, if someone should acquire an entire set of it a beautiful woman should be sent to their house.

She'd pull them away from their computer, take them outside to see the sun and the clouds and then blow their brains out for wasting their life. Ah, if only...
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Dehitay on August 28, 2011, 02:22:30 am
I like this idea for a new, higher heirloom item only available at 33. Then, if someone should acquire an entire set of it a beautiful woman should be sent to their house.

She'd pull them away from their computer, take them outside to see the sun and the clouds and then blow their brains out for wasting their life. Ah, if only...
Joke's on her! My brains have already turned to mush and drained away!
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Diomedes on August 28, 2011, 08:07:20 pm
I know there'd likely be an issue with too many items, if this were implemented, but I imagine we could just do a poll to pick a few weapons from each class which folks would want to have +4 models for.  E.g. Italian Sword, Side Sword, Long Espada, Warhammer, and Longes Messer for 1-handers.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Warcat on August 29, 2011, 01:30:12 am
Stones, the +4 ones could be diamond studded
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Berserkadin on August 29, 2011, 04:08:17 am
A Flamberge with real flames :)

Instead of gold and shit, add inscriptions/runes/symbols depending on the culture of the gear?
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: TurmoilTom on August 29, 2011, 04:51:28 am
Stones, the +4 ones could be diamond studded

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,11880.0.html

I have not forgotten. It was a hilariously awesome idea then, and it still is.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Chris_P_Bacon on August 29, 2011, 05:26:44 am
Level 50 (4 662 180 184 064 xp)

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 39
    Hit points: 57

    Skills to attributes: 4

    Ironflesh: 2
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 13
    Athletics: 13
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 13

    One Handed: 229
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

This is why there can be no level 50. Indestructible shield, lots of wpf, and good damage. This is of course assuming a soft cap at 50. If the soft cap was still at 30 and the hard cap was at 50 it wouldn't matter, it would take multiple lifetimes to get to this level.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Cepeshi on August 29, 2011, 07:45:47 am
Level 50 (4 662 180 184 064 xp)

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 39
    Hit points: 57

    Skills to attributes: 4

    Ironflesh: 2
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 13
    Athletics: 13
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 13

    One Handed: 229
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

This is why there can be no level 50. Indestructible shield, lots of wpf, and good damage. This is of course assuming a soft cap at 50. If the soft cap was still at 30 and the hard cap was at 50 it wouldn't matter, it would take multiple lifetimes to get to this level.

you can aswell make a power shieldbreaker build, so this argument is bleh, do not bring up any spec, as there will always be some counter
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: 1011010010100100111000101 on August 29, 2011, 08:36:37 am
And now for something completely different:

We are currently considering a 4th loom level that you can get by retiring at level 33.
We's gonna needs more then 16 gens for more exp then captains, <3.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Bobthehero on August 29, 2011, 05:37:16 pm
you can aswell make a power shieldbreaker build, so this argument is bleh, do not bring up any spec, as there will always be some counter

No, 13 shield skill makes the shield totally indestructible, you would a crushthrough build.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Banok on August 30, 2011, 02:16:49 pm
how about you just remove hierloom completely they were always a terrible idea.

 :wink:

people SHOULD get bored if they play a game for years all day everyday, dont design the game just for them.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Vibe on August 30, 2011, 03:03:36 pm
how about you just remove hierloom completely they were always a terrible idea.

 :wink:

people SHOULD get bored if they play a game for years all day everyday, dont design the game just for them.

Agree
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Gorath on August 31, 2011, 08:10:42 am
Agree

Me too.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 31, 2011, 08:31:27 am
Me too.

He too
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Banok on August 31, 2011, 08:28:17 pm
Im honestly surprised anyone agrees with me about this
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Leshma on August 31, 2011, 08:35:34 pm
Well, when I look closely at people who agreed with you, I must say it was only natural for them to do so. All four of you guys are essentially the same, a group we call trolls...
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 31, 2011, 08:54:18 pm
Well, when I look closely at people who agreed with you, I must say it was only natural for them to do so. All four of you guys are essentially the same, a group we call trolls...

I didn't agree! I just +'d for the lolz.

Also chicks dig trollz  8-)
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Mtemtko on August 31, 2011, 08:59:13 pm
Berenger, "troll"? Christ.. crpg community has some low quality trolls...
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 31, 2011, 09:04:43 pm
Berenger, "troll"? Christ.. crpg community has some low quality trolls...

Says the one who got CLOSE to zero votes in the biggest douchebag poll! And least of em all!

PAWNED!!
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: [ptx] on August 31, 2011, 09:45:49 pm
Douchebag =/= troll
You are a massive failure.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on August 31, 2011, 09:51:15 pm
how about you just remove hierloom completely they were always a terrible idea.

 :wink:

people SHOULD get bored if they play a game for years all day everyday, dont design the game just for them.

despite they add something more to the already good mod, i agree with you.
people should be able to roll and finish a build in max 2 weeks imo.

then who really loves the game will stay even if there are no more stats to achieve and items to grind.

now retiring for gear is like crafting in a MMO. you just need time to do and you'll be 20% better equiped than a stock geared player
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Kafein on August 31, 2011, 10:13:38 pm
Well I don't expect anyone to understand this, but SOME people do like the "grind". Some people do like goals, acheivements that add to their gaming experience and stay. Most of these players already fled this mod in January (still the biggest "whine" this forum ever knew), when basically high levels were shot in the back.

Removing all the grind will feel like Native. You fight a round, then bam. You fight the next and nothing changed. You didn't constructed anything. There's no challenge of reaching something, because there is nothing to reach, no pleasure by frustration and satisfaction, because you have everything instantly, no feeling of "work well done", because there's nothing difficult to do anyway.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 31, 2011, 10:25:04 pm
Douchebag =/= troll
You are a massive failure.

U just crusade hatin on me brah. Cuz u hatin on mah merc hating dude.

MERCS FOR LYFE EH?

AND U FAIL AT IT! :L
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on August 31, 2011, 10:55:40 pm
U just crusade hatin on me brah. Cuz u hatin on mah merc hating dude.

MERCS FOR LYFE EH?

AND U FAIL AT IT! :L

we're not at the second year...
quit the gangsta/ghetto slang already. and grow up in your spare time.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: LordBerenger on August 31, 2011, 11:22:32 pm
we're not at the second year...
quit the gangsta/ghetto slang already. and grow up in your spare time.

Quiet fool and make me some Lasagna.
Title: Re: I just realized how boring the game gets at 31
Post by: polkafranzi on September 01, 2011, 12:05:09 am
Quiet fool and make me some Lasagna.

It's not his dolmio day

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