The bec de corbin, balanced....fast?

[Farrok]

Always this shit about realismus...crpg(and m&b, and warband) is highly unrealistic, its fantasy so why should we "balance" something  this way...

when the bec de corbin gets unbalanced because of "realism" than put most other twohander and polearms, and even some 1hander as unbalanced too...i would like a real realistic crpg mod but currently it would be impossible and it is needed to edit all the stats from all items+ delete some item when you want only items from a short range of time...currently we have weapons which lies around 600 years between oldest and newst weapons...

@Paul: Thx and a Bec or Luzerner Hammer/Fußstreithammer are balanced, more than most of the other polearms and swords ;) i have fought with several weapons in reallife so i have a little bit of experience, though with some understanding of physics you can know it without experience but most people under-/overestimate the things like weight, length, etc.

[Seawied]

Highly unrealistic? No, that would be Orlando Bloom sliding down stairs on a shield shooting arrows with pinpoint accuracy. Fantasy? Thats more of world of warcraft.


The developers of Warband, and M&B did try to create an enjoyable game that is based off of historical weapons. Originally, Taleworlds wanted to make Mount and Blade a "Medieval Combat Simulator." Technology, the engine, and various other things limit them, so its by no means what they originally strived to go out and do, but the end product isn't what I would consider to be a "Fantasy" genre game.

[Soldier_of_God]

Just nerf the bec already! its easily the most OP polearm out there, and it certainly needs one. i really don't understand why center of mass and density was even meantioned in light of the fact the bec is the most overused, spammy polearm besides the iron staff out there.

[rustyspoon]

Just nerf the bec already! its easily the most OP polearm out there, and it certainly needs one. i really don't understand why center of mass and density was even meantioned in light of the fact the bec is the most overused, spammy polearm besides the iron staff out there.

I don't think it's a problem with the bec. I think it's more of a problem with pierce damage. It sucks when any schmuck with a bec can come by and 2 hit you. Wasn't there talk previously about some armor changes that would help mitigate this problem?

[Soldier_of_God]

I don't think it's a problem with the bec. I think it's more of a problem with pierce damage. It sucks when any schmuck with a bec can come by and 2 hit you. Wasn't there talk previously about some armor changes that would help mitigate this problem?

whatever you want to pin it on, bec is overpowered. there are many reasons why i personally dont like the bec, but i think the devs need to put this on their list of weapons under review. i dont know how many people have posted about this weapon, but its quite a high number.

[Seawied]

Just nerf the bec already! its easily the most OP polearm out there, and it certainly needs one. i really don't understand why center of mass and density was even meantioned in light of the fact the bec is the most overused, spammy polearm besides the iron staff out there.

Overused? Yes. Its a tin-can opener and works very well at that.

Spammy? No. You cannot out-spam with this weapon. There are many many other polearms and 2h and 1h which are much, much faster.

OP? Its strong, but not gamebreaking by any means.

[rustyspoon]

Yeah, the bec isn't OP at all. It's got decent speed, but it's short. Very short. Most every 2H out ranges the thing. Polearm stun doesn't count 'cause that's a problem with EVERY polearm and won't get fixed until WSE.

Overall any of the poleaxes are better than the bec.

Hell, remember when the bec did blunt damage with knockdown? Currently it's WAY the hell better than that. Really, I think pierce damage in general just needs to be looked at.

[Vibe]

Leave bec alone!

It lacks so much in range, there's no reason to call it OP.

[Seawied]

Leave bec alone!

It lacks so much in range, there's no reason to call it OP.

It really does. Most people who complain about the bec don't realize its limitations. The reach is pretty atrocious. Its so atrocious that you can literally get out-reached by 1h swords.

It might need a price increase, because if you compare it to 2h sword prices, it is quite inexpensive. Stat wise though, it is not a broken weapon.

[Vibe]

The reach is pretty atrocious. Its so atrocious that you can literally get out-reached by 1h swords.

I believe I outreached a bec with my NCS just the other day.

[Cyclopsided]

I believe I outreached a bec with my NCS just the other day.

Most 1handers right swing outreach it. It is easy to do with a long espada or NCS

[justme]

if the bec is so OP, why nobody use it? i cant remember that i saw someone these days

[Ninja_Khorin]

I don't see any problem with the Bec. That's all.

[Vibe]

if the bec is so OP, why nobody use it? i cant remember that i saw someone these days

It's mostly used in dueling, for battle it's just too short.

[Tears of Destiny]

if the bec is so OP, why nobody use it? i cant remember that i saw someone these days

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