Class for strategus?

[Felix]

I am going for cav-dedicated-hybred build

7 WM and Riding
5 PS, Shield and Athletics
This guy can fight with shield, on foot, with pike and on horseback. Not as good as specialists - but that's better than nothing i think

Cav is undervalued in Strategus 1.0 cause ppl only fought for fiefs. I think that will change lately. And i've seen at least 2 very succesful cavalry charge led by 22nd_Evgen

[Oberyn]

That was one of the battles for Halmar, the most disgusting crossfire box map I've seen out of any Town maps, not "a crappy village with a hill".

[okiN]

Actually, all the towns are pretty horrible and crossfirey. Nord towns are probably the weakest, but they're all bad. Halmar looks identical to that one town I fought with the Fallen to take, I forget which one it was.

Edit: I remember, it was Ichamur. Pretty much identical, yeah.

[Jeez]

I follow Reinhardt (surprise surprise), in his build as well, you can use a sword and a shield, a pike, a horse and a lance. even a crossbow... what else do you want?

lately, thanks to random plains on pecores server, I've seen a lot of spontaneous tactics happening, and some nice cavcharges, if you can time them right, they're devastating, but don't let cav just run straight on enemy pikes.
infantry remains the backbone of any army. shielders, pikemen and crossbows. With those three things you can beat any enemy.
archers and cav are support, bonus cards, a useful addition, but not necessary

So for strat you should have a hybrid build, being versatile is important.

[VVarlord]

dedicated-hybred

 

[Olwen]

That was one of the battles for Halmar, the most disgusting crossfire box map I've seen out of any Town maps, not "a crappy village with a hill".

+1, halmar's probably the worst city to conquer, mostly when you look at nords'ones

[Bjarky]

yeah, we wasted alot of troops on that one, when we took it from the npc way way back and there wasnt even glitchin 

[Ujin]

Although I have seen one cavalry charge with the Shogunate army attacking some other random force with cataphract geared horse archers. The horror!

I believe you're talking about our battle vs Searaiders, which at that time meant a battle vs Searaiders + DRZ+22nd and so on.
 By that time their coordinated archer spam + flanking tactics won them most of their battles against Templars&co so we figured we had to come up with something different to beat them in an open field, hence destriers (if i remember it right) for lancers + cataphracts for horse archers. We've decided to use coordinated cav + infantry charges and keep the enemy under constant pressure. It worked well until we started running out of horses + we didn't have an exactly perfect roster (many random mercs). Battle ended with us losing and Searaiders having about 10 tickets left. I still believe it was one of the most fun battles i've been in and well -played by both sides.

Cavalry can be a major factor on the battlefield in Strategus, but only if used right and if the commanders are willing to spend quite alot of money on it. Archers were (and probably  still will be) the most cost-effective units. + Don't forget the fact that teamwork and awareness are cav's two worst enemies, and for most of the time they were several levels higher than in your average cRPG battle.

I'd say archers, shielders (maybe shielder+xbow combo or shielder+cav) and pikemen would be the most useful classes in Strat.

[Gurnisson]

Ugh, I remember that siege. Our team was doing decent, but the bows ran out after the my second death. The rest of the battle was walking up ladders and getting smashed by boulder on sticks.

[Kafein]

Most Strategus fights will be sieges and stupid ultra-mountainous village battles. So it will logically be exactly like it was a few months ago. 20 archers on roofs/mountains = autowin, as archers got nerfed since then but not enough to counter this.

Cav sure can have a role to play in a battle. If the map is flat. If enemy pikemen don't do their job. If enemy archers are not far enough from each other (3 archers at 30m from each other = cavarly nightmare).

[Gnjus]

Most Strategus fights will be sieges and stupid ultra-mountainous village battles. So it will logically be exactly like it was a few months ago. 20 archers on roofs/mountains = autowin, as archers got nerfed since then but not enough to counter this.

Cav sure can have a role to play in a battle. If the map is flat. If enemy pikemen don't do their job. If enemy archers are not far enough from each other (3 archers at 30m from each other = cavarly nightmare).

I keep saying this to my lads for months now. They are all too eager for new Strat but i predict that many will be disappointed cause i don't see a way (or the dev's will for that matter) to avoid it turning into another roof/hill/any-other-high-ground-you-can-think-of camping archery festival.
Same shit as before: the team with more archers = win. Tactics ? All down to avoiding zillions of arrows as much as you can, so your K:D ratio doesn't end up too bad and that you don't waste too many tickets & gear. Unless, ofc, you're an archer yourself, in that case the tactic is to find a good spot and get as many headshots (from a safe place miles away) as you can.

P.S. I do have a solution for this but it would surely be considered a bit.....radical, people just don't like balance by realism and they like camping hills and roofs too much, take it away from them and you've got yourself a rebellion.

[Idzo]

I never played strat, but from what I see on servers, too much arrows are flyin' all over around.
I got a feeling that every one is using Barret M82 not bows or crossbows.
Battle against dozens of Robin Hood's and dozens of Legolas's will kill this game soon...
Nerf the crossbows, reduce the archers accuracy for at least 60-70%, get this game finally realistic.
I think that's what all wants (expect archers (: )

[Reinhardt]

I believe you're talking about our battle vs Searaiders, which at that time meant a battle vs Searaiders + DRZ+22nd and so on.
 By that time their coordinated archer spam + flanking tactics won them most of their battles against Templars&co so we figured we had to come up with something different to beat them in an open field, hence destriers (if i remember it right) for lancers + cataphracts for horse archers. We've decided to use coordinated cav + infantry charges and keep the enemy under constant pressure. It worked well until we started running out of horses + we didn't have an exactly perfect roster (many random mercs). Battle ended with us losing and Searaiders having about 10 tickets left. I still believe it was one of the most fun battles i've been in and well -played by both sides.

Cavalry can be a major factor on the battlefield in Strategus, but only if used right and if the commanders are willing to spend quite alot of money on it. Archers were (and probably  still will be) the most cost-effective units. + Don't forget the fact that teamwork and awareness are cav's two worst enemies, and for most of the time they were several levels higher than in your average cRPG battle.

I'd say archers, shielders (maybe shielder+xbow combo or shielder+cav) and pikemen would be the most useful classes in Strat.

Of course cavalry is effective if used right. But good sir, how many times have you seen cavalry actually being used to its maximum effectiveness in strategus? The cost clearly outweighs the usefulness (in 99% of situations). I plan to see a few factions with cav, but I'm sure it will fade. :/ I doubt it will be used right. Perhaps by veteran factions or those factions who use teamwork, but otherwise... meh.

I never played strat, but from what I see on servers, too much arrows are flyin' all over around.
I got a feeling that every one is using Barret M82 not bows or crossbows.
Battle against dozens of Robin Hood's and dozens of Legolas's will kill this game soon...
Nerf the crossbows, reduce the archers accuracy for at least 60-70%, get this game finally realistic.
I think that's what all wants (expect archers (: )

You see this because of the strongbow... needs a nerf IMO.

[Segd]

Best classes for Strategus are:
Dedicated thrower
2h\pole without shield skill
Dedicated crossbowman

Why? Cause UIF wants all Calradia! Resistance is futile...

[Dezilagel]

If I'd make a strat army it would atm consist of 100% horse xbow/1h hybrids...