Fix List v210

[Jacko]

Stop lying Yaron, I'm top scorer fairly regular, bah 

But I get your point, xbow price, IMO are fine, but you're not getting a whole lot for the money your spending. I'm using gear  (excluding siege xbow) worth about 4k, and with the siege xbow (siege xbow, bolts x2: 21749) about 25k. A dedicated archer with okey armor and dual bodkins nets about 25k, but they are pure dedicated archers. I'm wondering if the lack of skill point sink the xbower gets is worth the price they pay for the gear they use.

[Yaron]

Never saw you on #1 either :p but yeah, you got my point, for 900 upkeep you fairly get ... well ... a nice to have gimmick?

[Jacko]

Yeah, most of my kills are from melee But I still like crossbows, even though they are a bit wonky right now *shrugs*. It usually evens out after a while.

[Banok]

I think no +req for hierlooms is kind of stupid. for instance this wouldn't be possible otherwise:

3rd loomed katana spammers with  9 str, 30 agi .....................

at least make it +1 req per gen

[Helrekkr]

Stop lying Yaron, I'm top scorer fairly regular, bah 

But I get your point, xbow price, IMO are fine, but you're not getting a whole lot for the money your spending. I'm using gear  (excluding siege xbow) worth about 4k, and with the siege xbow (siege xbow, bolts x2: 21749) about 25k. A dedicated archer with okey armor and dual bodkins nets about 25k, but they are pure dedicated archers. I'm wondering if the lack of skill point sink the xbower gets is worth the price they pay for the gear they use.

The problem here is that there is no way to make a transition between skill points and upkeep and viceversa.

Meaning an archer may be limited by skill points  but not by upkeep while a xbowman is limited by upkeep but not by skillpoints.

Someone's suggestion of a repair skill would help with this, allowing people going for a pure xbow build to spend skillpoints to help with the high item maintenance.
Additionally one should be able to somehow use upkeep to support extra skillpoints.

[Michael]

standard-bearers aka pikes with flags

totally strict banner auto-balance, same banner, same team, always




STRICT banner auto-balance and pikes with flags

[Yaron]

The problem here is that there is no way to make a transition between skill points and upkeep and viceversa.

Meaning an archer may be limited by skill points  but not by upkeep while a xbowman is limited by upkeep but not by skillpoints.

Someone's suggestion of a repair skill would help with this, allowing people going for a pure xbow build to spend skillpoints to help with the high item maintenance.
Additionally one should be able to somehow use upkeep to support extra skillpoints.

The thing is, that it's not rally worth it to get an 900 upkeep xbow, coz its actually just suxx hard atm, you need 2-3 bolts for enemies + the reload time + dont move to reload + not really uber accuracy  = sucky weapon.

And it would fortiori also not worth it to waste skill points in a repair skill just to lower the upkeep of this xbow ...

[Toffi]

stop the whining! delete all classes except 2h spammer noobs!

-make xbows a little cheaper
-make arrows a little more expensive so the whine about archer will be lessen (though without deleting the class whine will still go on, because 2hspammers want an easy time)
-maybe horses a little cheaper ut havent used horsies with the new patch so i dont know ;)

arrows

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Arrows   134  2 pierce -- for the peasant archer
Barbed Arrows   1923   4 pierce
Khergit Arrows   3205   6 pierce
Bodkin Arrows   4074   8 pierce

crossbow

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Hunting Crossbow 2073
Light Crossbow   4312
Crossbow   6612
Heavy Crossbow   10932
Siege Crossbow   14277

Tholgar also said: Low/Mid tier horses are either too expensive or too slow for their cost.
I say leave the prices as they are now but make the horses faster.

I agree with that. repair costs of 1119 for my courser is too high, cause a courser isn't OP at all.

[Tai Feng]

cause a courser isn't OP at all.

IMHO, it is.

In relation to other horses, Courser is the only one that has satisfying speed for me. Others are too slow for my enjoyment, it feels more like sightseeing than charging.
If Courser is not OP, then other horses need to be improved because IMO they're pretty bad. But I would adjust the price in that case because horses *are* worth it.

[Kharn]

It takes longer to raise a Jarid over my head than it takes a longbowman to draw-aim-fire

The first 2 seconds my character stands there doing nothing. BROKEN

[Toffi]

IMHO, it is.

In relation to other horses, Courser is the only one that has satisfying speed for me. Others are too slow for my enjoyment, it feels more like sightseeing than charging.
If Courser is not OP, then other horses need to be improved because IMO they're pretty bad. But I would adjust the price in that case because horses *are* worth it.

Sry Tai Feng, if if I like you that much I disagree with you. The only advantage of the courser is it's speed.

Disadvantages:
- high buying and upkeep price compared to other horses
- less maneuver (42)
- less charge
- less hp
- less armour

So for example it's 1 advantage compared to other horses. Where's the point it's that expensive on th eupkeep, because it's not OP at all. It's not even an armoured horse but still expensive. You shouldn't have changed the price, it was high enough for that kind of horse.

[AdNecrias]

It takes longer to raise a Jarid over my head than it takes a longbowman to draw-aim-fire

The first 2 seconds my character stands there doing nothing. BROKEN

Take off your shield.

[Kharn]

Take off your shield.

Irrelevant. There should never be any scenario ever in an FPS where your character does nothing for 2 seconds when you tell it to do something.
Do this:   Move is super slow motion dropping your imaginary shield and rasing your hand behind your head.  Did it take 4 onethousand  NO.

[Shpongled]

Throwing weapon individual upkeep should be changed to single chance to break per weapon type. Having to repair lances 3x in one match is just too much.

Make staves slashable again on horses.

Return 1h mode for long awlpike.