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Athletics

i have not for what ever reason
12 (5.5%)
i always need that 1 athletics
18 (8.3%)
i love athletics
170 (78%)
RIDE OR DIE(0 athletics)
18 (8.3%)

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Voting closed: June 24, 2011, 08:05:32 am

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Athletics?
« on: June 17, 2011, 08:04:26 am »
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i got to thinking, how many people out there do not get athletics? most do, i have never in my entire 22 generations gotten it.
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Re: Athletics?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2011, 08:08:24 am »
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The best part is you haven't suffered any bit less in combat effectiveness, tankmen. I always wondered what your build was to have so much strength, hp, and ride a champion charger.

it all makes sense now. No athletics. And you are hardly outran except for the fact you wear heavy heavy armor...
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Re: Athletics?
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2011, 08:17:03 am »
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3 Ath / 6 Riding

Since I have a tendency of getting off my horse and fight an opponent toe to toe sometimes.

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Re: Athletics?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2011, 08:17:10 am »
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I always get athletics, however since I actually wear armor with weight of 9 or more it really seems and has seemed for a while like a waste of points.  Especially as more and more players have said just like you that they never bother with athletics and they still move just as fast as I do unless I run around nekkid.

I have 6 now and I've gone as high as 9 in the past and regretted it as str builders kept up with me in footspeed during duels.
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Re: Athletics?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2011, 08:22:21 am »
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so far by the poll no one but me has voted for 0 athletics.. i voted for ride or die duh, my builds 21/15 :D
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Re: Athletics?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2011, 08:40:39 am »
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If you wear even medium armor athletics stops being worth it, thats actually how I kill people on my full str character; they expect to be able to dance circles around me in full plate just because they have 5 athletics or whatever but in reality I can keep up with them fairly well if I wear lowish armor.
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Re: Athletics?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2011, 08:51:02 am »
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If you wear even medium armor athletics stops being worth it, thats actually how I kill people on my full str character; they expect to be able to dance circles around me in full plate just because they have 5 athletics or whatever but in reality I can keep up with them fairly well if I wear lowish armor.


This is the problem with athletics that should be fixed.  It's silly that agi/athletics basically gives no benefit which is why damn near EVERYONE is a str builder nowadays.
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Re: Athletics?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2011, 11:19:24 am »
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I don't know what you consider str build, but most people have at least 12-15 agi and I doubt they do not max (4-5) athletics. It is also hard to differentiate between the boost of agility to running speed vs. athletics. I certainly feel the difference when I level up, but I can't tell if this is because I increased agility or athletics (I normally use light to medium armors 5-14 weight).

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Re: Athletics?
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2011, 11:32:57 am »
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If you wear even medium armor athletics stops being worth it, thats actually how I kill people on my full str character; they expect to be able to dance circles around me in full plate just because they have 5 athletics or whatever but in reality I can keep up with them fairly well if I wear lowish armor.
This is the problem with athletics that should be fixed.  It's silly that agi/athletics basically gives no benefit which is why damn near EVERYONE is a str builder nowadays.

What are you, high? Enjoy turtling around, I'll be way the hell over here with my 6 ath.

Of course weight slows you down, but it does nothing to diminish the effectiveness and importance of ath. Ath/AGI helps a lot to offset those penalties.
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Re: Athletics?
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2011, 11:33:44 am »
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WOW, athletics is one of the most important skills, none of the "good" players have less than 6.
Athletics is just as important as weapon master.

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Re: Athletics?
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2011, 12:18:07 pm »
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What are you, high? Enjoy turtling around, I'll be way the hell over here with my 6 ath.

Of course weight slows you down, but it does nothing to diminish the effectiveness and importance of ath. Ath/AGI helps a lot to offset those penalties.

I'm always high. I suspect Gorath is too.

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WOW, athletics is one of the most important skills, none of the "good" players have less than 6.
Athletics is just as important as weapon master.

My point is that high athletics/weapon master does help a lot, but aren't absolutely required to be competitive and aren't as mandatory as you may think.
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Re: Athletics?
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2011, 12:38:08 pm »
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WOW, athletics is one of the most important skills, none of the "good" players have less than 6.
Athletics is just as important as weapon master.
well its a good fucking thing i don't walk then like the rest of those pla- peasants, i ride a horse , 2 riding = all your athletics



and now to post a humorous video i just watched that involves horses

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljPFZrRD3J8
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Re: Athletics?
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2011, 02:46:06 pm »
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I currently have an AGI build with 7 Athletics. I'm not by any stretch a good player (though I'm getting better) but I have chased down archers while wearing mail before. Of course, with only 5 PS I'm usually swinging a wiffle bat in effectiveness.

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Re: Athletics?
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2011, 03:10:38 pm »
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They need to take a look at athletics.  They need to buff them.  Matey made a thread about it.  I hope the devs are looking into it.
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Re: Athletics?
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2011, 03:34:24 pm »
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They need to take a look at athletics.  They need to buff them.  Matey made a thread about it.  I hope the devs are looking into it.

Devs said that they didn't touch at atheltics, no modification on january patch, i guess it's true, imo what have been nerfed is armor weight malus. So if you wear more than 9lbs (or 7,5?) you will be slow down.