remove the ability to block with lances and pikes?

[tankmen]

this would stop those 2h cav for the most part, you the know the ones that bump then block and flee, as well as stop the annoying pike men that block then spin stab at point blank range. It makes no sense to side block with these weapons, they should hit the ground with the shaft... but its just a suggestion after all

[Amoebe]

I think you should use a pike once and see how it's being held. Then you'd see that your argument is pretty much invalid. Just a suggestion ...

[Seawied]

Good suggestion. +1

Pikes wouldn't be an ideal melee weapon. It also doesn't make a whole lot of sense using an unwiedly pike to twirl around and block easily. I would suggest making pikes a 1 slot weapon though as a trade off

[Cepeshi]

bad suggestion, this would make pikemons quite useless...even tho i have to agree spin thrusts are lol, they are used by players wielding different weapons aswell, not just pikes...

[Seawied]

pikemons

I CHOOSE YOU PIKE-A-CHU! 



It wouldn't affect what they are designed to counter: horses. Since the lolstab is a flaw of a fundamental design of the warband engine, other things need to be done to discourage the abuse of it in melee.

[Cepeshi]

I CHOOSE YOU PIKE-A-CHU! 



It wouldn't affect what they are designed to counter: horses. Since the lolstab is a flaw of a fundamental design of the warband engine, other things need to be done to discourage the abuse of it in melee.

supporting charging inf is not abuse mate i do pike to heads when i meet group of my teammates, i just hide behind and poke poke poke...if the frontal like is getting thin, i switch to sword but yeah, its ridiculous you can hit around corner and around shield with the spinning blocking should remain tho, it saved me a few times, imagine, you pike a guy, he goes on, you turn just to see another horse, but with 1her on it, you block his swing and voila can stab someone else...and to be hones, people are not protecting the pikemons that well (yeah, we should make the word PIKEMONS! famous)

[Brutal]

I know that wikipedia is not the best source but:

"Although primarily a military weapon, the pike could be surprisingly effective in single combat and a number of 16th-century sources explain how it was to be used in a dueling situation; fencers of the time often practiced with and competed against each other using different attacks such as the infamous lolstab."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pike_%28weapon%29

[Seawied]

the "Dueling" situation is talking about pike on pike. Any weapon can be used on the same weapon in a 1 on 1 situation. Also, this post on the wiki doesn't cite any of the "number of 16th-century sources" which it states say it can be used in single combat. Wikipedia can be a great source, but this article is in need of a bit of love.

[Bulzur]

I thought the op was talking about blocking with a lance "on a horse" first, and then pikemen.
I agree with the "no blocking" on a horse, since we can't block couch lance either. Just leave the block thrust maybe, for cav duels, but take away the overhead block. So that inf knows how to attack when a cav got stopped and is blocking his way out, as if nothing happened.
But leave the pikemen's ability to block. They're not so hard to deal with.

Just make some weapon "no block possible on horseback" maybe ?

[Ujin]

Remove the skill factor from skilled players in a skill-based game ? Sure, great idea !

[ArchonAlarion]

Imagine trying to block with a pike irl (or any similarly sized weapon).

The switch from overhead block to side block would be so cumbersome and require a lot of space to manage.

If block speeds could somehow be changed, than the pike should have a very low blocking speed. If not, then the block should be removed, or the animation changed to something slower and more realistic.

[Joxer]

Pike is shit slow. It cannot be used for dueling since it only thrust attacks on top of that.

[Wookimonsta]

only if heavy lances get crushtrough on thrust

[Seawied]

only if heavy lances get crushtrough on thrust

you's trolling!

[Whiligelm]

Being both a Lancer and a Pikeman/Halberdier myself I always wanted to see something like this implemented.
It would be harder either for pikemen and lancers but still more realistic.

An alternative idea would be the ability of lances/pikes to crush trough blocks.
Especially for lances at high speed they should be able to crush the block aswell as hammers (but only at high speed)
Same for pikes, but still this idea would lower the strenght of pikemen.