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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2012, 01:26:46 am »
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i have some questions. how do i remove that background hills that are so ugly and dont fit my map?
i have a lot of trees in my map so i was thinking will that affect size of my map?
Do i need to make inacesable houses to ppl or it is done automaticly?
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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2012, 01:58:45 pm »
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i have some questions. how do i remove that background hills that are so ugly and dont fit my map?

You can change your maps surroundings.
Read Kong Ming's map guide.

outer_terrain_plain
outer_terrain_plain_2
outer_terrain_snow
outer_terrain_snow_2
outer_terrain_steppe
outer_terrain_steppe_2
outer_terrain_town_thir_1
outer_terrain_castle_9
outer_terrain_desert
outer_terrain_desert_b
outer_terrain_beach
sea_outer_terrain_1
sea_outer_terrain_2


i have a lot of trees in my map so i was thinking will that affect size of my map?
Do i need to make inacesable houses to ppl or it is done automaticly?

Every prop you add in your scene will affect the size of the map.
Also every texture affects, how well the map runs in your pc

Some houses are accessible and some not.
Some accessible houses produce camping at the map and some doesn't. But mostly i try to block the accessible houses to prevent annoying camping.

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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2012, 05:16:15 pm »
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Is there a button to doublify a placed item?
I need a lot of oversized bushes but placing them all and then rescaling everyone of them really sucks.
Or: How to place prescaled items? I cant use the scaling-function (using the fields in the editor-window) when the item is not set.
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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2012, 05:28:44 pm »
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Before placing the prop, scale them up/down with the B button, then place them. The prop will stay scaled until you make any changes (you'll usually end of with lots of floaty stuff tho).
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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2012, 06:11:40 pm »
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Yah. floating-stuff is not really a problem, I guess. Not with my map-concept. :D

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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2012, 06:22:27 pm »
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That also work with height.
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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2012, 11:39:29 am »
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I will sound a bit dumb here.

I have enabled the editing in config but i dont see the scene editor when in the option menu ingame ?
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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2012, 12:02:16 pm »
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Press ctrl-e ingame (after choosing a scene in the Scene Editor), and the tools will show up.

Read the first post again and follow the intructions..  :D
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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2012, 12:05:12 pm »
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Ctrl-E ingame, but make sure to go to windowed mode (ALT-ENTER) so you can see the toolbar, as it doesn't appear in fullscreen.

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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2012, 04:13:54 pm »
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I'm testing my battle map (before I've added any objects) and I've placed two entry points. The second one works fine, but me and my team keep spawning in the middle of the map. Also I get a lot of crashes. Is there anything else I need to add to make the battle map work on a basic level? The first entry point I placed always says entry point 1 in the list, but I change the first variable to 0. Can anyone help?
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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2012, 04:23:15 pm »
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As it says on the first page, for battle you need to enter two entry points, 0 and 32 (team 1 and team 2). Place Master of the Field entry points (MOTF) in the middle of the map, entry points 67-68-69. That is all you need for a basic battle map.

What module do you use when editing? Not sure why you'd crash, seems like something is hogging your memory. Try a editing in a copy of native if cRPG is to taxing.
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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2012, 06:04:57 pm »
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As it says on the first page, for battle you need to enter two entry points, 0 and 32 (team 1 and team 2). Place Master of the Field entry points (MOTF) in the middle of the map, entry points 67-68-69. That is all you need for a basic battle map.

What module do you use when editing? Not sure why you'd crash, seems like something is hogging your memory. Try a editing in a copy of native if cRPG is to taxing.
Yeah I sorted the entry points out, I was just having trouble changing the entry point from 1 to 0 lol. Running Firefox alongside m&b at the moment (laptop). Might explain the crashes.

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Crashes still occur when I try to change entry 1 to another number sometimes.
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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2012, 03:55:40 pm »
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Can someone help me with this glitch/bug? In the editor i can stand on the stones but on our server we're falling inside them.
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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2012, 01:26:52 am »
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Having problems with the cRPG scene chooser... I edited a blank map and it works fine in the editor, saved it multiple times (restarted warband, opened it in the editor again and my changes were there), but when I try to host a server using that map the game shows me the original blank map, without modified terrain and scene props.

Also, the .sco file in cRPG\SceneObj\ is added and modified correctly but the cRPG\scenes.txt terrain code isn't changed even though I changed the terrain using the editor.

It acts as if the cRPG scene editor didn't really look at the same files as the main engine.

Any idea ?

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Re: Map Making for Dummies [Guide]
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2012, 01:24:31 am »
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Feels like the server doesn't have the modified files.
Triple check that you have added the correct scene object file and modified the scene & strings txt files to the server mod & to the mod you start the game.
Happened for me too.

so: .sco file, scene.txt & strings.txt in to BOTH, server mod and your game mod.