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Read the post first. Should armor soak been nerfed and reduce buffed?

No, it's fine as it is.
44 (25.7%)
Yes, slightly reduce the armor soak for less glances and buff reduce in return. Less glances and 1hit deaths.
53 (31%)
Yes, greatly nerf soak and buff reduce decently. No more glances and 1hits please.
28 (16.4%)
Buff soak and reduce. Armor should be worth it and glances are fine.
29 (17%)
Nerf soak and reduce. Armor is too strong currently.
3 (1.8%)
Leave the values alone but lower the interruption threshold(to 0) to make glancing blows always interrupt.
7 (4.1%)
I don't care.
7 (4.1%)

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Author Topic: Possible change to armor handling: increase damage reduce, decrease soak effect.  (Read 13050 times)

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I like it, it would nerf a bit xbow shots (since they have a lot of base damage), and low damage weapons would still be able to do something. I feel bad for Captain Georges, but I like this. More variety on the field, and perhaps the return of old agi builds.
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Yup, with this I can do a 9/30 mw katana build without glancing, thx.

Edit: It would be cool to survive more hits with the robe  :mrgreen:.

9:23 on one of my alts, i only glance if i do something stupid...

Overhead more god damn it.
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9:23 on one of my alts, i only glance if i do something stupid...

Overhead more god damn it.

Atm I am on a 15/22 (soon will be 24) build, and it rarely glances (except the thrust, it's pretty useless xD).
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EDIT: I r dumb, didn't understand at first, now I think I get it.

Less random glances, still have glancing for missing the sweet spot
Armor lets you take more damage but lower dmg weapons will still slightly harm you & will have less chance of glancing making it so armor won't make tin cans not have to block

ehh I like it, sounds like a lot of work though.


« Last Edit: June 07, 2011, 03:45:25 pm by Memento_Mori »

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Atm I am on a 15/22 (soon will be 24) build, and it rarely glances (except the thrust, it's pretty useless xD).

Naa, thrusts are the best attacks which you have.

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Naa, thrusts are the best attacks which you have.

They are ok atm, but not on the katana xD.
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Aha! people are starting to understand what paul wrote in the first post!
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That glances and bounce thing happens to me very rarely, I am an archer btw, ps 3 and using 30b\29c\21b\33p weapons.. when it happens its rather my fault then random thing. If u reduce soak it will buff archers' melee ability  and other low-PS builds.
But it really depends on how much you want these factors to be changed. Maybe slight change would be not bad at all.


This is current soak and reduce factors:
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My suggestion - nerf soak and buff reduce for Blunt weapons, so they will bounce less and buff soak and nerf reduce for Pierce weapons, so if it pierce the armor it will hurt a lot. It would make sense, like IRL: blunt weapon can do blunt trauma thru armor(low soak) but low damage(high reduce), and piercing weapon can hurt much (low reduce) if it pierce the armor(high soak)... but must be somehow balanced.