Bow need up

[Pandor_Archer]

throwings and xbows much deadly, i am 6 IF and brigandine and dieing from 3 darts... and 1 bolt with siedgexbow

[Ujin]

Actually , after playing for a while, i still consider archers dangerous. When they will be able to heirloom arrows/ bows it'll be even more dangerous. Fix not needed imo.

[Pandor_Archer]

heirloom arrows gives only more arrows  , and to heirloom you need to play 10\24 ) i with boodkins + warbow need 6-7 arrows to kill tank)

[Jez PKS]

Being an archer is too frustrating at the mo so i rerolled the new OP - 2H + throwing 

[SgtAlex86]

Being an archer is too frustrating at the mo so i rerolled the new OP - 2H + throwing 

same 

[Mustikki]

I think Archery is finally really well balanced. I got a 30lv archer -> so im not trolling here.

Crossbow would need some increasement for costs and reload time and throwing nerf for dmg.

[Pandor_Archer]

bow if you go str damag is ok but unreal targeting  , if you go agi and 6PD some armor dont even feel your atacks with warbow!

[Michael]

Cry moar.

I have to ride down a naked afk leech 4-5 times at full speed with my heavy plated charger. And then I have to repair him for about 3.500 gold.
If someone had told me about the plan to remove the horse charge, I would have a level 31 archer now and get way way way more kills. But who cares.

Press tab once in a while, and you will see the good archers are still on top of the scoreboard. You just need to change your playstyle a bit, then you will get (almost) the same amount of kills as before the patch.

[KaMiKaZe_JoE]

I'm pretty fine with archers atm.

Due to good (or really bad) timing, I started an archer build a week before the patch came out. So I can't really compare the current archer standards to pre-patch archery. Still, I've had no difficulty leveling up or getting some kills. The only problem I have is that I kind of suck. Just a little...

I'm also going for a 2h/archer hybrid, which means not all of my WPF will go into archery, which means I'm less accurate then other archers. And if I, an inexperienced archer who refuses to put all my WPF into archery, am capable of getting kills, then dedicated archers who don't suck can get kills too. If I can do it, you can do it. The ONLY thing I have trouble with is long range archery. Targets that are more than a certain distance away are VERY difficult to hit, which often leads me to spam arrows in my enemy's direction. It's probably my 130 WPF that's the problem though.

tl;dr: I suck and an a 2h/archer hybrid. If I can do it semi-decently, you can probably do it much, much better.

[Lordark]

3 cheers for the other guy eh?

But srsly we need to do something about throwers.. 

[bruce]

I'd only change it so that PD doesn't give wpf penalties - that way, people could choose to make a slower, less accurate but more damaging high PD archer, or make a more accurate, quicker firing, kiting type archer but with bad damage.

Btw, I made a archer postpatch (rather, respecced my existing twohander into one), but with powerstrike and some (50) polearm wpf. I can still get kills with a bow (using a strongbow, 6 PD) despite being fairly lowlevel (so agi suffers), and of course, as long as you have powerstrike you're not really handicapped in melee either (and sometimes it's just easier to come in and slash a few people in melee, anyway, rather then eg fire into melee fights like a retard).

[Banok]

the plan to remove the horse charge, I would have a level 31 archer now and get way way way more kills. But who cares.

What plan?

[Keshian]

I'm pretty fine with archers atm.

Due to good (or really bad) timing, I started an archer build a week before the patch came out. So I can't really compare the current archer standards to pre-patch archery. Still, I've had no difficulty leveling up or getting some kills. The only problem I have is that I kind of suck. Just a little...

I'm also going for a 2h/archer hybrid, which means not all of my WPF will go into archery, which means I'm less accurate then other archers. And if I, an inexperienced archer who refuses to put all my WPF into archery, am capable of getting kills, then dedicated archers who don't suck can get kills too. If I can do it, you can do it. The ONLY thing I have trouble with is long range archery. Targets that are more than a certain distance away are VERY difficult to hit, which often leads me to spam arrows in my enemy's direction. It's probably my 130 WPF that's the problem though.

tl;dr: I suck and an a 2h/archer hybrid. If I can do it semi-decently, you can probably do it much, much better.

WIth the wpf soft cap, dedicated archers only have 20-25 higher wpf then you and if they have a powerdraw to actually use a decent bow to kill people other then peasants the power draw nerf makes them less accurate then your archer probably is.

[XavierX]

Archers are much more fun now that they aren't forced to hover near the action in order to collect XP. I'd venture to guess that archers are leveling 3-4 times faster now than they were pre-patch. Maybe even more. Damage vs plate has been nerfed, but overall, people are wearing less armor and thus archers should be more effective.

WIth the wpf soft cap, dedicated archers only have 20-25 higher wpf then you and if they have a powerdraw to actually use a decent bow to kill people other then peasants the power draw nerf makes them less accurate then your archer probably is.

I think the PD effect on accuracy needs to be dropped to 10% versus the current 14%. It isn't possible to use a longbow or warbow with any sort of reliable accuracy, even in a pure build, at 180.

[Lorn]

WIth the wpf soft cap, dedicated archers only have 20-25 higher wpf then you and if they have a powerdraw to actually use a decent bow to kill people other then peasants the power draw nerf makes them less accurate then your archer probably is.

Kesh, good archers only need 150-160 wpf to be deadly, even with 6 PD. Sometimes with even less PD.

I have no idea what your issue seems to be with it.

I think the PD effect on accuracy needs to be dropped to 10% versus the current 14%. It isn't possible to use a longbow or warbow with any sort of reliable accuracy, even in a pure build, at 180.

Well, with the current soft cap at 150, I find that it isn't that difficult to shoot people with a warbow.