Horse versus Man. Speed suggestion.

[Cup1d]

Facts only

Fastest man
During Usain Bolt's World record 100m sprint (9.58) at the 2009 Athletic Championships in Berlin, Bolt covered reached his top speed of 12.27 m/s

Fastest horse
"The American Quarter Horse is the king of speed. In fact, racing American Quarter Horses have been clocked at nearly 50 mph as they cross the finish line." Or - 20 m/s

[Wrenaq_Lars]

I can run faster than a fully grown pit pony
In fact can we have pit ponys please next patch

[Cup1d]

Ok. Little testing


Tested on EU_3.
Map - ruins
Naked character with 3 riding and 3 athletics
Standart desert horse

Distance
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Man speed - 26 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyR2IOhTZ3E

Horse speed - 12 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXhH0ttD920


In real life thoroughbred horse faster than athlete.
By 1,63


In game horse faster than man.
By 2,16

Please note:
1. Its not the fastest horse
2. Its nonheirloomed horse
3. There no additional bonus from Riding


Something is really wrong mates.

[Ujin]

Facts only

Fastest man
During Usain Bolt's World record 100m sprint (9.58) at the 2009 Athletic Championships in Berlin, Bolt covered reached his top speed of 12.27 m/s

Fastest horse
"The American Quarter Horse is the king of speed. In fact, racing American Quarter Horses have been clocked at nearly 50 mph as they cross the finish line." Or - 20 m/s

And , your point ? Whatever changes you're going to suggest, should we start the good old realism discussion concerning arrows vs armours ?

[Gnjus]

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[Damug]

Tested on EU_3.
Map - ruins
Naked character with 3 riding and 3 athletics
Standart desert horse

Are you trying to imply that a character with 3 athletics is the same speed as a world record holding athlete?

I think the more accurate test would be a 13 athletics character vs. a 4 riding character on a courser.

[Cup1d]

Are you trying to imply that a character with 3 athletics is the same speed as a world record holding athlete?

No. I'm talking about proportion of horse and man speed. IRL life - horse faster by 20:12,27 = 1,629

I think the more accurate test would be a 13 athletics character vs. a 4 riding character on a courser.

Are you trying to imply that a character with 4 riding and courser can  achieve the same speed as a world record holding horse? Really?

Or you really think if we use char with 13 athletics versus char with 13 riding and courser speed proportion would be better? 

And , your point ? Whatever changes you're going to suggest, should we start the good old realism discussion concerning arrows vs armours ?

Should we start the good old realism discussion about mountain-climber\Everest conqueror horses instead?
Or, maybe, we can talk about real Plate Armor in XIII century period?

[Damug]

Sure, do that then.

[gazda]

not everyone is athlete, some of us are fat ugly drunk nords, i dont see why we should change that

[CoWorm]

I can see your getting at nerfing horse speed. But how about giving some proper gameplay arguments as to why instead of comparing ingame speed with real athletes and horses, which frankly doesn't matter much in a game.

[Cup1d]

I can see your getting at nerfing horse speed

Can you show me where I say anything about nerfing horse speed?

not everyone is athlete, some of us are fat ugly drunk nords, i dont see why we should change that

Yes. And no. Because some of horses are bad fed, unwashed, bad tempered, with sensitive teeth etc...

[Ujin]

Should we start the good old realism discussion about mountain-climber\Everest conqueror horses instead?
Or, maybe, we can talk about real Plate Armor in XIII century period?

I think you misunderstood me . Just like the guy above me said, you shouldn't bring real-life arguments into a videogame like this to justify another nerf for a class you don't play. More so, your "tests" are laughable at best. No offence intended.

[Cup1d]

you shouldn't bring real-life arguments into a videogame like this

Are you ready to make a confession like this:
 - Yes, horses are TOO fast comparable to man speed, but its ok, it only help me be more awesome in this videogame.

no offence mate.

[Ujin]

Are you ready to make a confession like this:
 - Yes, horses are TOO fast comparable to man speed, but its ok, it only help me be more awesome in this videogame.

no offence mate.

Um , is that the best you've got ?Abit childish. I can reverse it and say - "Is this your way of nerfing your worst enemies' classes in order to make life easier for ya?".See what i did there ?
 I'm using a fairly slow horse (destrier) , if it gets slower it just won't be interesting for me anymore. However, when i go infantry (which i do quite often), i don't see any problems with horses speed, maybe except for loomed coursers.

[kongxinga]

How can you compare worlds fastest man to the average of many different race horses? Bolt might be fast, but can he keep up that top speed for 50 miles? Were the horses doing 100 metre dashes? Was bolt carrying a horse or at least another man on his back? Was bolt weaking leather boots and assorted medieval gear? When they said clocked at finish line, did they measure speed at the instant the horses crossed the line, or did they measure it by averaging, like they did for bolt. That might be relevant too because the horses may be faster  (last push) or slower (fatigue) at that moment.

By what justification do you extrapolate to declare that this is the correct ratio of speeds? Are we all suddenly the worlds best 100 metre sprinter, fighting against riders of the American quarter horse? Did you get the stats for the fastest quarter horse?