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Of alts and Heirlooms
« on: May 26, 2011, 03:48:41 pm »
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chadz gave a reason why he would not want alts to be able to exchange heirlooms with mains.
A new feature is upcoming that would invite to exploitation.

However, I guess we can all agree that until such feature is implemented, the time spent on alts is worth no more or no less the time spent on a main character.

I therefore suggest that we are able, one final time before the new features are implemented, to exchange items, heirlooms and gold between our main and alt(s).
« Last Edit: May 26, 2011, 04:15:00 pm by Aemaelius »
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Re: Of alts and Heirlooms
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2011, 03:55:58 pm »
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For what its good - I agree :D

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Re: Of alts and Heirlooms
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2011, 04:11:12 pm »
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I agree, too.
To nice much gold on my alts.

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Re: Of alts and Heirlooms
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2011, 08:01:00 pm »
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why punish people who liked to play on several characters and reward lamers who just grinded the same character.

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Re: Of alts and Heirlooms
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2011, 08:19:18 pm »
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So with PT >10 stones become simple too effective
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Re: Of alts and Heirlooms
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2011, 08:43:18 pm »
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I agree, we earned them. We could have earned more if we did it on one account, why not just let us have our stuff for our main? I abandoned all my alts and wish I had never made them, I could have had so much more on my main guy.
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Re: Of alts and Heirlooms
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2011, 08:50:05 pm »
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I think that is a good, one time suggestion. The amount of time spent in game on one either or on multiple characters is the same, so I see no reason why players with multiple chars should suffer a disadvantage.

I still like to keep my alts and have fun playing them, but I wish I could transfer some of the items and gold to my main before strat starts.

However, the "skip the fun" insta lvl 30 + 10 000 gold option has to be taken into account - abooze alarm.
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Re: Of alts and Heirlooms
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2011, 09:18:38 pm »
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However, the "skip the fun" insta lvl 30 + 10 000 gold option has to be taken into account - abooze alarm.
You can't have alts if you "skip the fun".  Abuse problem solved.

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Re: Of alts and Heirlooms
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2011, 11:49:17 pm »
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I would like to elaborate a bit.

It is important that this be done before abusive options are available. Currently there is no reason to farm on an alt.
Even if you want to try different classes playing on the same toon makes more sense, as you can just retire and earn heirlooms.

People who do not enjoy variety can live with this, hence they have gotten an advantage to those wishing more options when playing public. Especially with strat having been so long time on the way.

I argue only, that time until now has been no more or no less abusive spent on alt, than they have on mains hence especially heirlooms will do no damage if they are able to be traded or transfered to your main.

It is hard to refute:
There is no extra work in it, simply offer the option for alt to be on the trade until such a time that new feature are available.
There is no hoarding, as time spent on an alt might as well have been spent on a main. As no class lvl's faster than any other there is no reason why this can be abused.
And finally with alts having no abilities in strategus, which they had before people has been removed of valuables that they had before.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2011, 11:50:41 pm by Aemaelius »
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Re: Of alts and Heirlooms
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2011, 11:51:26 pm »
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I'm okay with this.

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Re: Of alts and Heirlooms
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Re: Of alts and Heirlooms
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2011, 09:32:21 am »
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Re: Of alts and Heirlooms
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Re: Of alts and Heirlooms
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2011, 03:27:11 pm »
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I agree. Or make leveling fast enough so we don't need alts but limit heirlooms that you can have at once or something.

Maybe add "re-spec" option? With gold cost ofc to get some gold out of game.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2011, 03:32:50 pm by bonekuukkeli »

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Re: Of alts and Heirlooms
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2011, 04:45:11 pm »
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why punish people who liked to play on several characters and reward lamers who just grinded the same character.


This is exactly the bad point of view most of the players here have...you ARE NOT BEING PUNISHED, on the contrary, the guys that spent ALL THEIR TIME ON ONE CHAR gets rewarded...quite a difference we have, hm?

If you are bored by your char and you play alt, why should your alt get any benefits? Why is it that if i spent 300hours on SINGLE char i should not have any advantage? I call bullshit.

On the other hand, i would like to be able to send money to my alts, that is the only problem which i am facing on them.

And also: if you think heirlooms make you better player, i pity you, i mean, i am getting decent K/D and have fun on my alt which has not a single loom, it is perfectly doable and i am fine with the fact he is like that. If i wanted him to have looms, he would be my main, period.

Edit: if you want to add this possibility, just give back the XP bonuses from before, so we, the "lame grinders on one char" are not punished and can try new specs as well, sounds fair, doesnt it? /sarcasm off
« Last Edit: May 27, 2011, 04:49:48 pm by Cepeshi »