RIP greece, looks like your paying your own debt now!

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You do understand that probably the only way you will pay back those debts is by significantly lowering your standards of living?

[Panos_]

You do understand that probably the only way you will pay back those debts is by significantly lowering your standards of living?

Not really, the major problem with Greece is that we stopped producing things, and we focused on tourism. If we managed to change that, and start producing things again, mostly farming and dairy products, I believe that we would be able even to increase our standards of living.

Austerity leads to poverty, and poverty means less payments on the government, payment on loans etc etc.

And besides, even if we lowered our standards of living, with an unemployment rate of 30% I doubt that the debt can be repaid in a logical amount of time.

On the other hand, the more working people, the more money to get.

Greece, and most of the EU countries, need growth measures and not austerity ones.

[LordBerenger]

Yeah, do that and give room to the communist to increase their numbers 

U can join Soviet Union 2.0 then

[Leshma]

You do understand that probably the only way you will pay back those debts is by significantly lowering your standards of living?

Nope. We are having shit standard for over 25 years and yet money isn't going places it should be. And we do pay taxes more than Greeks. Thing about corrupted government is, it dies last. Before it dies, it will kill all its citizens. Greek can start behaving but if there is a gaping hole or mechanism for stealing money that ends up in republic budget, nothing will change. Except lives of those few who are in possession of that money and of course their bank account overseas in so called tax free heavens.

How about Germans and their buddies first solve the problem of tax heavens, tax evading and other nifty ways of stealing money from ordinary people? Then we could start pointing in direction of certain nations, calling them lazy and crooked. But doubt that would be necessary, because dealing with criminal activity of world elites will miraculously heal every and each country (Greece, Italy, even Serbia).

[DonNicko]

I like Greece, and I hope that they can grow their economy up.

[Siiem]

As I said already, most of the Greeks want to payback the debt, we always paid our debts, and the biggest example is the loan that the Greeks took in 1821 from the English banks to sponsor the revolution, and the debt was fully paid up until 2001.


We aren`t beggars nor thieves, we just had a couple of bad generations who really fucked up the country, all we need now is help to improve.

That's a bit of a stretch when 60% voted to NOT pay debts.

[Xant]

Greek and international tax collectors have calculated that just having the tax collection system be as efficient as in western countries would have helped Greece avoid the crisis.

But the honest Greeks use every method of corruption to avoid paying taxes. And that's on top of all the countless other abuses of the system, like getting paid disability for blindness and still having a driving license, hiring 10 gardeners when there's no garden in a hospital, etc etc. It's worse than the Soviet Union.

Then the Greeks talk about their "pride." Hahahah. Brought it all on themselves with their corruption and laziness and still spit on EU's hand.

[Leshma]

Unless Germans take over Greece government and install their own people to collect money from tax, doubt that forcing common Greek to pay his taxes will fix everything.

[Siiem]

Unless Germans take over Greece government and install their own people to collect money from tax, doubt that forcing common Greek to pay his taxes will fix everything.

The honourable Greeks wouldn't do EVEN more to avoid paying taxes, if it was a forgein German there to collect.

[Paul]

Well, the German government offered help overhauling the tax system iirc. It was taken as an insult.

[v/onMega]

If you guys really want to know what happened in Greece and what led to this situation you first and foremost
need to stop listening to public western media that tells nothing but lies.

Some key words: Natobase, Goldman Sachs, IWF, USA, Introduction of the EUR, any name of the 2000 wealthy families in Greece

Greece is now destroyed and the scraps will be divided very soon incase Greece decides to stay with the EURO as a currency.
Greece is now Africa and I don t mean it in any dispicable way.

[Siiem]

Some key words: Natobase, Goldman Sachs, IWF, USA, Introduction of the EUR, any name of the 2000 wealthy families in Greece

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[Algarn]

stop listening to public western media that tells nothing but lies.

I've a déjà vu feeling.

[Xant]

If you guys really want to know what happened in Greece and what led to this situation you first and foremost
need to stop listening to public western media that tells nothing but lies.

Some key words: Natobase, Goldman Sachs, IWF, USA, Introduction of the EUR, any name of the 2000 wealthy families in Greece

Greece is now destroyed and the scraps will be divided very soon incase Greece decides to stay with the EURO as a currency.
Greece is now Africa and I don t mean it in any dispicable way.

Some more key words:

Illuminati, jet fuel can't melt steel beams, jews, Mossad, Bilderberg, Rothschild, GWB is a lizard.

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Some more key words:

Illuminati, jet fuel can't melt steel beams, jews, Mossad, Bilderberg, Rothschild, GWB is a lizard.

My sources confirm that Greece is in debt from all the homeopathic medicine they had to buy to cure autism from vaccines, water fluoridation and chemtrails.