why so ΣΥΡΙΖΑ

[Algarn]

who gives a sheet, greeks were never gunna pay back their debt, poor bastards already sold their last goat.

I give a shit, even if I'm alone here, I think french left parties should unite like Syriza, just to stop the austerity bullshit going on : France, one of the first members of Europe, once a massive weight into its organisation, now a simple country, with large PIB, but high unemployment rate, corrupted and inefficient politicians at power, rising national front, gap between rich and poors increasing, etc... I see all reasons to hope for changes, since I doubt the situation can improve with the current policy.

To Lombard,  that's one of the biggest questions I also got about Syriza's program, but think about that : if you gain a little more money in France/greece/spain, it goes to the debt. If you remove the debt, or at least, decrease its influence, what do people do with the money ? They buy. I think you know that buying stuff creates jobs, I won't make the offense to explain it.

[Molly]

I'd like to hear Panos on this. Honestly, I do. No trolling or calling out, just honestly wondering what he makes of all of this.

320.000.000.000€ debts according to German news. That's a ton of money. I don't believe that Syriza can make good on their promises. It's gonna take several decades to get off that, even with a loan cut. Even with those 24.000.000.000€ reparation from WW2... it doesn't make a change really.
Dunno if there is anything left to save when looking at those numbers. The consequences? I do not know.

And no Algarn, you can't generally say that more shoppers create more jobs. You need people to buy stuff that is made in your country and a lot of countries fail at exactly that. If they just buy the China stuff, you'll get a few more truck drivers (mostly from East Europe anyway) to drive the China containers around, a few more jobs in sales and that's it really. I know nothing about French industry, so I can't really say if your country produces the relevant things.

[Tovi]

Good time for greeks, bad time for the banksters.

[Kafein]

Unless they completely second-guess on basically all their promises, the only thing Siriza can manage to do is increase the debt. At this point, growth inside Greece is irrelevant, the state is losing money solely due to interest. At least the CBE is maybe going to buy Greek debt, which would make the control of that debt more European. Forgetting the debt on the other hand, that's not going to happen, especially with lunatics in power.

[Moncho]

Thing is, both for Greece and Spain, probably also for others, the debt as is cannot be paid back. All the earnings of these last few years have gone directly to pay the interests of the debt (barely returning any borrowed money). In Spain the debt is about to reach 100% of the PIB.
Thus the only two paths that I am aware of that have a small chance of maybe possibly allowing them to return something at all are either a renegotiation of the debt (cutting, changing interest, repayment period, etc), or going outside the Euro and using massive depreciation of their currency to try to do so.
The point is not so that they can return less (although that is a necessary part), it is making it so that they can be returned at all. In their current status, they cannot.
The Spanish government even changed the constitution so that the absolute priority for where income of the State goes to is repaying the debt. This leaves already next to no money to do anything else.
I don't know how the situation in Greece is, but I expect it to be along the same lines. So no, I am not surprised that ΣΥΡΙΖΑ won, neither will I be surprised if Podemos (similar lines) does the same in Spain.

[LordBerenger]

Greece leaves EU and becomes best friends with uncle Putin and they both become best Orthodox Church friends and pretend Greece = Byzantine Empire again. And also debt free.

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[Christo]

Greece leaves EU and becomes best friends with uncle Putin and they both become best Orthodox Church friends and pretend Greece = Byzantine Empire again. And also debt free.

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Meanwhile Erdotard wants new ottoman empire too, bam! You create ww3

[Bjord]

Everything is going downhill lmao

[LordBerenger]

Meanwhile Erdotard wants new ottoman empire too, bam! You create ww3

And kurds rapes Ottoman Empire from behind with no lube and Armenians from North and Byzantine Empire from west and crusaders from Europe to fight ISIS takes a rest stop and invades Ottoman Empire by sea. GG

[Christo]

BBC News - Syriza and Independent Greeks agree Greece coalition

[Algarn]

Really, what the fuck.

[Leshma]

It's perfectly normal to see rise of communist parties in bankrupt countries. First, they serve as antidote to growing popularity of right wing parties in developed (historically chocolate chip cookie) countries. Second, most of the people who vote for them expect country to go back to communism and say fuck you to foreign influences and growing debt. USA killed one Chavez, many more to come

[Kirman]

Meanwhile Erdotard wants new ottoman empire too, bam! You create ww3

I'm thinking the same way with Algarn.  Instead of punching each other left parties should unite for one goal and create something new. Not old shitty politicians doing the same thing over and over again. That's the only way to get rid of Erdotard. I lost my hope few years ago but at least Erdotard will die when i'm old 

[the real god emperor]

Did Panos dieded after the election?

[Casimir]

He's probably been out fighting everyone, Greece home of democracy.