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[LordBerenger]

He's assaulting innocent tourists like Golden Dawn were reported to do some year/s ago.

[ecorcheur_brokar]

It's perfectly normal to see rise of communist parties in bankrupt countries. First, they serve as antidote to growing popularity of right wing parties in developed (historically chocolate chip cookie) countries. Second, most of the people who vote for them expect country to go back to communism and say fuck you to foreign influences and growing debt.

Actually if you read "The capital in the XXI century by Picketty" *, you realise that most country (except those in Africa) are not gaining or losing more than 1% of their national revenue by owning other country buisness or debt. On the other hand, the most rich people of each country receive money from the whole population by owning the debt of the country, which makes every tax payer giving money to them.


Now my opinion about Syriza is even if they can't abolish the debt when they take power, there is still hope that more country have governement against austerity and thus can put enough pression on Germany to either wipe out the debt or creat some inflation. IMO without some inflation, Europe will eventually explode some day, people can't give their money to the most rich indefinitly.

There is already Matteo Renzy in Italy that is against austerity, and italy got some power in Europe, he just need a little support from other country.






*: I really advice you to read it, it's one of the most interesting book I ever read and not hard to understand.

[LordBerenger]

Arent u a Canadick?

[Algarn]

Arent u a Canadick?

Even worse, he's from switzerland !



Oh, and Tsipras made his first error. Making a coalition with Panos Kammenos is one of the worst errors he could do : it's like having Melenchon and Le Pen on the same side in France, or Pegida's ex leader allied with a left party.

[Kafein]

First, they serve as antidote to growing popularity of right wing parties in developed (historically chocolate chip cookie) countries.

Do you seriously believe that? The only differences between the "antidote" and those right wing parties is the xenophobia. Both want to "strengthen" their economy through some variation on mercantilism. It's not even all that surprising considering that's what all extremist parties have done at least since the end of the 19th century. The extreme left are very happy to demonize the extreme right at every occasion, but their ideologies are incredibly close nonetheless since both are mainly authoritarian. This is also why as soon as they become mainstream, voters switch from one to another very easily.

Oh, and Tsipras made his first error. Making a coalition with Panos Kammenos is one of the worst errors he could do : it's like having Melenchon and Le Pen on the same side in France, or Pegida's ex leader allied with a left party.

As I said, this is the most ideologically sensible alliance for these guys.

[Leshma]

I've bought you one way ticket to the most beautiful place on this planet, tovarich Kafein. It's called Gulag, where we send our intelligent and educated comrades so they more efficiently develop their ideas while working. Mens sana in corpore sano.

[Algarn]

I don't know if at this point being radical means being authoritarian. Now, it appears that in France, being Socialist (more like being a Socialist supporting the current government), is being at center, even at right. If people have to vote for communists (current communists=/=stalinists) to get social progress now, they'll end up voting for that. I don't think we can talk anymore about extreme left in France, except for a few cases like the more radical parties that score like 0.01% each time (related to stalinism), which is like the KKE in Greece.

Even I have to admit, that KKE guys are morons. How can one even believe that Stalin's policy was the best, you must be brainwashed to speak like that of a policy that consisted into murdering small owners and all political opponents.


This said about being radical, to come back on the question, it's not normal to make an alliance with people that are voting for xenophobia. Instead of having despise for the 1%, they have it on guys who barely have anything.

[the real god emperor]

"Abolishing the debt" is not communism , imo. Besides , communism is not a way to run away from the shit you stuck into, therefore Syriza is just some clown that deceives Greek people with pink dreams. I dont believe he will accomplish anything , I think the only correct solution to this crisis is EU to reduce the debt as much as they can . Getting out of the Euro Zone would only mess up things more than ever.

[Vovka]

The EU must now forgive debts or in Greece  will appear Orthodox ballistic missiles
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[Casimir]

I await the next claim that greek peninsular has always been considered part of the Russian nation.

[LordBerenger]

Greece, Bulgaria, Romania confirmed to join Russia in the new upcoming alliance known as the ''Orthodox Nations of Doom''

[FleetFox]

Just to clarify there is nothing radical about Syriza, its just because all other parties even centre left like Labour in UK are now right wing. Go back 30 years and they would just be a normal party with the same values and beliefs as all the other social democrats, don't feed off the neo-liberal capitlist beloney. Things can be different, we dont need to feed the top 1% to survive and have a working economy. Do as Brokar suggested and get reading Piketty's book, everyone should read that to understand the problems with such wealth inequality...

tldr: if you are a good historian you will know to place Syriza into a historical context then suddenly they are not so scary lol

[Vovka]

Just to clarify there is nothing radical about Syriza, its just because all other parties even centre left like Labour in UK are now right wing. Go back 30 years and they would just be a normal party with the same values and beliefs as all the other social democrats, don't feed off the neo-liberal capitlist beloney. Things can be different, we dont need to feed the top 1% to survive and have a working economy. Do as Brokar suggested and get reading Piketty's book, everyone should read that to understand the problems with such wealth inequality...

tldr: if you are a good historian you will know to place Syriza into a historical context then suddenly they are not so scary lol

in the democracy countries you do not read the books, you wear balaclava and protect their rights

[Andswaru]

Vovka, when this forum dies im going to miss your lovely russian stereotyping, always makes me laugh.

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[Vovka]

Vovka, when this forum dies im going to miss your lovely russian stereotyping, always makes me laugh.
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